JhiaRaine's Annex Answer!
David T. St. Albans-Pudelwitts
Namaste' and hello! You have asked a question which once again tests the
authority and purpose of Annex's mission, which is help, solace, concern and
total honesty towards humanity. I ask who are you to pose such tests?
Obviously you think you are someone. But whom? I wonder. Could you have
links to JoeDeSorte, and Amber? Why do you need convincing of anything? I
find your sort just plain silly and your question is sillier still, it is of
absolutely no import. But, for fun I'll pose it to Annex and post it anyway.
David St. Albans
Scroll down, thou foolish mortal!
-----Original Message-----
From: Raine <jmt...@usaor.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.angels
To: David T. St. Albans-Pudelwitts <whispe...@email.msn.com>
Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: Angelic Answers-St. Albans/Annex
>I have a question for you, David. It might sound simplistic, but it
>isn't, yet it is the least of the 12 questions that require answers.
>Do you know WHY you know to wear warm clothes in the winter?
Annex answers: "David may or may not know why he knows to wear warm clothes
in the winter. Most likely he does this to keep warm, as he was taught by
his mother. Are you asking why YOU wear warm clothes in the winter, or how
you know too? Same answer, you were taught to. Look to those raised by
wolves, do they wear clothes at all? No! Why not? They weren't taught to. Do
you ask how WE know to wear warm clothes in the winter? We don't. There is
no winter here. We wear what garments our souls prefer. Though we don't need
any. Neither would you, if you had been taught another way to keep warm.
Your question is somewhat unbelievable to us. And do not go forth and say,
"Oh, that is because the angels are not real, for they are not able to read
my mind!" We read your mind loud and clear. It is a mistaken and confused
mind which has a path of its own which allows no other love or care or
thought of another upon it. It is a self-centered mind and a mind which
perceives doubt, evil and sinful passions in everyone but itself. We hereby
declare we refuse to answer any and all types of these testing, provocative
questions which only seek to malign in their obscufications and morbidity."
Annex.
>This is not a phony question. It is a necessary question. The answer is
>needed for guidance.
>If you can post the answer to this question, it will go a long way
>towards proof of what you say. We can discuss points of disagreement
>later and with civility. I appreciate honesty and will give you such in
>return. Convince me.
>Ask your angels that question and please post the answer. You do not
>have my permission to in any way copy, or paraphrase anywhere else,
>anything I have written to this NG or any other NG.
>Namaste'
>--
>JhiaRaine
>Copyright: August 13, 1998
Jana
>WUUPS...
Actually, I was thinking (all the while laughing) what a poor,
unfortunate, misguided soul this person is. I do pity him.
Jana (O:
Those who are most blind are the ones who will not see.
Those who are most deaf are the ones who will not hear.
David H. Ellison
Jana wrote:
> --- Shiva --- wrote:
>
> >WUUPS...
>
> Actually, I was thinking (all the while laughing) what a poor,
> unfortunate, misguided soul this person is. I do pity him.
WHY?
Chorozon
>Scroll down, thou foolish mortal!
Yeah, Yeah, "Buy the power of Gray Skull!" Whatever.
The only Annex you need is a miniature iron maiden built around your head.
Slam shut in dream, visions revealed as rot within your head. I am shocked
those such as you can even worm their way around in gray matter at all. May
your host poison your larvae and everything else you inhabit. (insert spit
here) Even considering you might in fact be what your delusions lead you to
believe, I say to you just this: Go play in another reality, the only
function you truly serve here is as a object of abuse.
WUUPS© Did I just say that and really mean it?
Why, yes; yes I did.
And JhiaRaine or whatever the fuck you feign identity as, you should make
friends with this drone because they actually make you appear normal in
contrast alone.
Salivate salivate.
Pavlov's god.
Love in Christ or whichever dog you would not blaspheme.
Chorozon
NOT Copyright: August 14, 1998 (You are free to distribute this straight
into your ass.)
Jana
<camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Jana wrote:
>
>> --- Shiva --- wrote:
>>
>> >WUUPS...
>>
>> Actually, I was thinking (all the while laughing) what a poor,
>> unfortunate, misguided soul this person is. I do pity him.
>
>WHY?
Because it is a very important question and he didn't 'get' it. I
feel pity for those who choose not to see what is being handed to
them.
Jana (O:
David H. Ellison
upstairs library, get back to you after I look at it...
--- Shiva --- wrote:
> HI David H Ellison..
>
> The question is referred to JOB 37:17 Bible, take your pick..
> and now you see why, hopefully.
David H. Ellison
thimk they get it.
Jana wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:27:51 -0400, "David H. Ellison"
> <camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Jana wrote:
> >> Actually, I was thinking (all the while laughing) what a poor,
> >> unfortunate, misguided soul this person is. I do pity him.
> >
> >WHY? (David asked)
kurdtcat
David T. St. Albans-Pudelwitts wrote in message ...
>Dear JhiaRaine,
>Your question is somewhat unbelievable to us. And do not go forth and say,
>"Oh, that is because the angels are not real, for they are not able to read
>my mind!" We read your mind loud and clear. It is a mistaken and confused
>mind which has a path of its own which allows no other love or care or
>thought of another upon it. It is a self-centered mind and a mind which
>perceives doubt, evil and sinful passions in everyone but itself. We hereby
>declare we refuse to answer any and all types of these testing, provocative
>questions which only seek to malign in their obscufications and morbidity."
>Annex.
Interesting post. I've been gone a few weeks and it's rather refreshing to
see some "new posters" in here, even if they do disagree with the powers
that be, infact, that's what's refreshing about it. I've been doing a
little thinking about this ng and it reminds me of those "high class" kids
in school who always made fun of or called anyone names who were in the
least bit "different". I've seen Mark ridiculed and run out of here several
times just in the short few months I was here, shame on you people. None of
us has all the answers I don't care what any of you say. I find Annex's
post to be a pleasant change from the "I Love Raine" fan club. We're all
only human whether we choose to believe it or not and...to follow
Chorozon's manner of thinking...mental institutions are full of people who
believe they have ALL the answers. This isn't a prep club, it's supposed to
be a ng where people can "discuss" and "share" ideas...it is FAR from that.
Well, I've had my say for awhile. This is CAT signing off and wearing her
"ignorance" like a cloak...keeps me nice and warm in the winter...I too was
taught to "dress warm" when it's cold. One of those "human" things.
HChrist13
>friends with this drone because they actually make you appear normal in
>contrast alone.
I don't know who you are, but already I love you. Jeffrey D Johnson
PS - Shiva, just in idle curiousity about what your full-blown attack might
be(my guess is: "You're not worth attacking."), i'm going to provoke you:
You're a fucking moron. Do your worst, big daddy.
Jana
<camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>Really, I kinda feel sorry for people who pity other people... I don't
>thimk they get it.
Then explain it to me.
I don't know that feeling sorry for someone and feeling pity are the
same thing, at least not to me.
And I need no one to feel sorry for me, or to pity me, just for the
record.
Jana (O:
"Know the truth--trust your feelings--and the truth shall set you
free."
kurdtcat
Jana wrote in message <35d512e3....@news.flash.net>...
>On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:27:51 -0400, "David H. Ellison"
><camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>>WHY?
>
>Because it is a very important question and he didn't 'get' it. I
>feel pity for those who choose not to see what is being handed to
>them.
>
>Jana (O:
>
Holy Bible...Revised Standard Edition
Job 37, 14-20
"Hear this, O Job;
stop and consider the wondrous works of God.
Do you know how God lays his command upon them,
and causes the lightning of his cloud to shine?
Do you know the balancings of the clouds,
the wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge,
you whose garments are hot when the earth is still because of the south
wind?
Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?
Teach us what we shall say to him; we cannot draw up our case because of
darkness.
Shall it be told him that I would speak? Did a man ever wish that he would
be swallowed up?"
Pretty open to interpretation as most of the bible is. You can explain this
to me so that I might see it as you do? Respectfully, CAT
David H. Ellison
I think you got it :-) Look;
Jana wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 02:47:39 -0400, "David H. Ellison"
> <camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Really, I kinda feel sorry for people who pity other people... I don't
> >thimk they get it.
>
> Then explain it to me.
> I don't know that feeling sorry for someone and feeling pity are the
> same thing, at least not to me.
> And I need no one to feel sorry for me, or to pity me, just for the
> record.
Notice how that made you feel? St. Albans probably feels the same way, pity
always seems condesending to me; when you say you pity someone, you are
saying you are in some way superior to this person; it's one of those baby
and the bath water things... This kind of self serving crap makes me want
to yak!
It appears to be nothing more than egotism disguised as sympathy. If he
didn't get 'it', why didn't you try to explain it to him? Or were you more
interested in enjoying your own learned status than contributing something
helpful?
I don't pity you, or anyone else, your paths are not my paths... what
appears to be a bridge to me, may be a wall to you, or vice versa... I can
say what something looks like from here, but it does not confront me...
finish your own path first, then if you still pity us, come back and get
us.
David H. Ellison
Can't seem to find my bible... three translations of the Bhagavad Gita, five or
six more of the Tao... a Popol Vuh, yet another two volume of the Upanishads,
and a copy of Tantraraja Tantra (downstairs)... guess I will have to search
upstairs after all.
BTW glad you're 'back.' And to clear up what Misunderstanding may lay between
us; I did not call you ignorant or stupid; I said I would not imply these
things to you (or anyone else), if these were my feelings, I would be direct...
I don't like subtly, too much room for interpetation in the world already,
their are enough barriers to communication... sometimes I am one :-)
kurdtcat wrote:
> Jana wrote in message <35d512e3....@news.flash.net>...
David H. Ellison
Is that your best fucking insult; "you're a fucking moron" ? I bet you wouldn't
even respond to something that pitiful...
Hey, Jana!!! I found some one to pity too!
HChrist13 wrote:
> PS - Shiva, just in idle curiousity about what your full-blown attack might
> be(my guess is: "You're not worth attacking."), i'm going to provoke you:
> You're a fucking moron. Do your worst, big daddy.
"Do your worst, Big Daddy"? What, were you a beatnik in the fifties? Or do you
just have a problem with father figures who represent your distorted
perceptions of authority?
Hey Shiva! Is this your dog? He's peeing on the carpet again! Guess that pig in
shit mentality extends to your personal hygiene...
David H. Ellison
kurdtcat wrote:
> David T. St. Albans-Pudelwitts wrote in message ...
> >Dear JhiaRaine,...
>
>
> Interesting post. I've been gone a few weeks and it's rather refreshing to
> see some "new posters" in here, even if they do disagree with the powers
> that be, infact, that's what's refreshing about it. I've been doing a
> little thinking about this ng and it reminds me of those "high class" kids
"high class" kids? And who do you think are the "high class" kids here? And
what made you think they were then? Sounds to me like you used "high class" the
way they said "no class." But it always seems to come back to that for you...
You resent others gifts and refuse to acknowledge your own, even though a lot of
us on this ng pointed them out to you many times, when you whined you had
nothing to offer.
You would not believe us that you do, you wanted no ones recognition... you've
chosen to pull out only what you could use to reaffirm your feelings about
yourself... My guess is that instead of seeing those good things I've said about
you here, you will find a way to play the wounded bird again...
> in school who always made fun of or called anyone names who were in the
> least bit "different". I've seen Mark ridiculed and run out of here several
> times just in the short few months I was here, shame on you people. None of
> us has all the answers I don't care what any of you say. I find Annex's
> post to be a pleasant change from the "I Love Raine" fan club. We're all
> only human whether we choose to believe it or not and...to follow
> Chorozon's manner of thinking...mental institutions are full of people who
> believe they have ALL the answers.
To follow Chrome Zones way of thinking is to be committed ourselves.
> This isn't a prep club, it's supposed to
> be a ng where people can "discuss" and "share" ideas...it is FAR from that.
Then work to change it through your posts, or whine and complain while
lurking... When you posted, you often had people discussing; but you can't
demand people give you respect you will not give yourself...
> Well, I've had my say for awhile.
Time to go hide....
> This is CAT signing off and wearing her
> "ignorance" like a cloak..
...more like a metal or a badge... (reverse snobbery)
HChrist13
>wouldn't
>even respond to something that pitiful...
>
I completely agree, however, I do believe its better than your little allusion
to homosexuality that you sent flying my way last time. Not only did you use
homosexuality as an insult(which would only be seen as bad by the christian
coalition), but you didn't even have the nuts to come out and say "You're a big
flaming fag." So, until you can come up with something better, don't insult my
insults.
Jeffrey D Johnson
Jana
<kurd...@nospam.worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I'm not sure I can explain this well enough to satisfy you or anyone
else. It goes back to my post about truth. What I believe is what
feels right for me. If it doesn't feel right for you, so be it.
Your version of the Bible is not the same as mine, as I'm sure it
isn't the same as a lot of others seeing as how there are so many
different versions and translations. I agree, what you posted here
from your bible isn't very clear. My bible asks the question pretty
directly Job 37:17 "How thy garments are warm, when he quieteth the
earth by the south wind?"
I suggest to anyone who doesn't understand this question, or the
reason for it, to search the dejanews archives. No one gave me the
answer to this question, and I am still working on the complete
answer. If you don't agree with the importance of this and the other
eleven questions, so be it. I do and because it feels right to me to
do so, I know it is true for me.
Jana
<camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>Dear Jana,
>
>I think you got it :-) Look;
>
>Jana wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 02:47:39 -0400, "David H. Ellison"
>> <camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Really, I kinda feel sorry for people who pity other people... I don't
>> >thimk they get it.
>>
>> Then explain it to me.
>> I don't know that feeling sorry for someone and feeling pity are the
>> same thing, at least not to me.
>> And I need no one to feel sorry for me, or to pity me, just for the
>> record.
>
>Notice how that made you feel?
Honestly, it didn't make me feel anything, I was just making a
statement.
>St. Albans probably feels the same way,
It's entirely up to him to choose how he feels about something someone
says to or about him. I cannot spend my time worrying about how others
will interpret what I am saying. If they aren't sure, they can always
ask.
>pity
>always seems condesending to me; when you say you pity someone, you are
>saying you are in some way superior to this person;
I guess I did mean it in a consdescending sort of way, but I don't
feel superior to anyone.
>it's one of those baby
>and the bath water things...
I have no idea what you mean by this statement.
>This kind of self serving crap makes me want
>to yak!
Please, not here! (O:
>
>It appears to be nothing more than egotism disguised as sympathy. If he
>didn't get 'it', why didn't you try to explain it to him?
I guess because I felt it had already been explained. He didn't give
the impression he was looking for an explanation either. Instead, he
chose insults over communication, but that seems to be the way things
go sometimes.
>Or were you more
>interested in enjoying your own learned status than contributing something
>helpful?
You are free to see it that way if you choose. I do contribute. And
I'm not sure what you mean by 'learned status', I am still just Who I
Am.
>
>I don't pity you, or anyone else, your paths are not my paths... what
>appears to be a bridge to me, may be a wall to you, or vice versa... I can
>say what something looks like from here, but it does not confront me...
>finish your own path first, then if you still pity us, come back and get
>us.
Why do you see yourself as being pitied? I don't recall ever having
said that.
kurdtcat
David H. Ellison wrote in message <35D5CB3D...@sprintmail.com>...
Thank you David for that inspiring post. It's good to be back.
CAT
kurdtcat
And
>what made you think they were then
David, tell me you have no idea that there are classes not only in this
country but in this ng. Anyone who is not aware of this lives in a vacuum.
I notice you totally ignored the part of my post about Mark, isn't it true
he's been run out of here time and time again? What gives anyone in here
the right to call him "deluded" or anything else...any on-looker might think
the same about most of the rest of us in here. We're all entitled to our
own opinions whether others agree with them or not. You folks need to
remember that it "takes all kinds to make a world".
>Then work to change it through your posts, or whine and complain while
>lurking... When you posted, you often had people discussing; but you can't
>demand people give you respect you will not give yourself...
The only respect I'd like to see in here is a respect for other people's
ideas no matter how "off the wall" some might believe them to be. Go back
and read the names posters have been called in here. So what if the
heiarchy doesn't agree with what someone else says, does that make it any
less informational? You can convince more through patience and
understanding than through that constant name calling.
>Time to go hide....
Whatever you say!
>
>> This is CAT signing off and wearing her
>> "ignorance" like a cloak..
>
>...more like a metal or a badge... (reverse snobbery)
Now, that is soooooooooo funny I can't stop laughing.
Feels like I never left. CAT
kurdtcat
Jana wrote in message <35d5e4b8....@news.flash.net>...
>>>Because it is a very important question and he didn't 'get' it. I
>>>feel pity for those who choose not to see what is being handed to
>>>them.
>>>Jana (O:
>>Pretty open to interpretation as most of the bible is. You can explain
this
>>to me so that I might see it as you do? Respectfully, CAT
>
>I'm not sure I can explain this well enough to satisfy you or anyone
>else. It goes back to my post about truth. What I believe is what
>feels right for me. If it doesn't feel right for you, so be it.
>Your version of the Bible is not the same as mine, as I'm sure it
>isn't the same as a lot of others seeing as how there are so many
>different versions and translations. I agree, what you posted here
>from your bible isn't very clear. My bible asks the question pretty
>directly Job 37:17 "How thy garments are warm, when he quieteth the
>earth by the south wind?"
>I suggest to anyone who doesn't understand this question, or the
>reason for it, to search the dejanews archives. No one gave me the
>answer to this question, and I am still working on the complete
>answer. If you don't agree with the importance of this and the other
>eleven questions, so be it. I do and because it feels right to me to
>do so, I know it is true for me.
I see, CAT
HChrist13
>the right to call him "deluded" or anything else...any on-looker might think
>the same about most of the rest of us in here.
I think you're all deluded.
Jeffrey D Johnson
kurdtcat
HChrist13 wrote in message
<199808152226...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>I think you're all deluded.
>
>Jeffrey D Johnson
And I think you just might be right...CAT
David H. Ellison
important to me. I'm not a Christian, so I don't care about their coalition.
Why you are interested in the size of my nuts, after this little diatribe, makes it
all kind of obvious.. get out of the closet boy, it's all right...
And it's not my fault that your insult fell a little short; sheessh, can't take a
little criticism? At least try to get his interest... Post to his name and insult
him!
What a sissy boy!
David H. Ellison
Jana wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:19:31 -0400, "David H. Ellison"
> <camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Dear Jana,
> >
> >I think you got it :-) Look;
> >
> >Jana wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 02:47:39 -0400, "David H. Ellison"
> >> <camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Really, I kinda feel sorry for people who pity other people... I don't
> >> >thimk they get it.
> >>
> >> Then explain it to me.
> >> I don't know that feeling sorry for someone and feeling pity are the
> >> same thing, at least not to me.
> >> And I need no one to feel sorry for me, or to pity me, just for the
> >> record.
> >
> >Notice how that made you feel?
>
> Honestly, it didn't make me feel anything, I was just making a
Then I do pity you and feel sorry for you after all, you just don't get it, do
you?
> statement.
>
> >St. Albans probably feels the same way,
>
> It's entirely up to him to choose how he feels about something someone
> says to or about him. I cannot spend my time worrying about how others
> will interpret what I am saying. If they aren't sure, they can always
> ask.
But of course, I agree entirely, why should you care about other peoples
feelings.
> >pity
> >always seems condesending to me; when you say you pity someone, you are
> >saying you are in some way superior to this person;
>
> I guess I did mean it in a consdescending sort of way, but I don't
> feel superior to anyone.
Not with an answer like that, how can you condescend with out looking down at
someone... own a dictionary; need someone to read the big words for you?
> >it's one of those baby
> >and the bath water things...
> I have no idea what you mean by this statement.
Hence the pity I have developed for you, how sad and pathetic you are...
> >This kind of self serving crap makes me want
> >to yak!
>
> Please, not here! (O:
>
> >
> >It appears to be nothing more than egotism disguised as sympathy. If he
> >didn't get 'it', why didn't you try to explain it to him?
>
> I guess because I felt it had already been explained.
Guess I didn't get that post... where are you referring to? Explained that
verse to Cat yet?
> He didn't give
> the impression he was looking for an explanation either. Instead, he
> chose insults over communication, but that seems to be the way things
> go sometimes.
Give me an example...
> >Or were you more
> >interested in enjoying your own learned status than contributing something
> >helpful?
>
> You are free to see it that way if you choose.
No sherlock, shit... and I don't even need your permission to do so.
> I do contribute. And
> I'm not sure what you mean by 'learned status',
You were condescending because you think you know something David St. doesn't?
> I am still just Who I
> Am.
Well that was a redundant and pointless sentence; who cares who or what you
are?
> >
> >I don't pity you, or anyone else, your paths are not my paths... what
> >appears to be a bridge to me, may be a wall to you, or vice versa... I can
> >say what something looks like from here, but it does not confront me...
> >finish your own path first, then if you still pity us, come back and get
> >us.
>
> Why do you see yourself as being pitied?
Never said this, the complexities of transformational grammar getting to you?
> I don't recall ever having
> said that.
Neither did I.
> >
> >> Jana (O:
> >> "Know the truth--trust your feelings--and the truth shall set you
> >> free."
Want to test that with chains, cement and a bridge?
> >
> >
> >
HChrist13
In the last post I spat into this wonderful group, I included a quote from
Charles Manson, a paraphrasing of that quote follows, along with what you
added.
"He who walks with god has nothing to fear from fruads." Charles Manson(my
boyfriend)
Now, if you couldn't guess, the "(my boyfriend)" part was yours.
>sheessh, can't take a
>little criticism?
I can take criticism, just not from Raine's lap dog.
If you wish to reply to me with some at least partly intelligent remarks(I know
you can do it, you're one of the few in here who can), flame or otherwise, I
will glady accept. But calling me a sissy boy is not going to cut it.
Jeffrey D Johnson
Jana
<camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
David, why is it just because you think you've 'got it' everyone else
should also? I don't have the time you do to sit around and read
every book I need to read in order to sound intelligent. What I post
comes from me, not only from books.
>Yet another example of the ng twist...
Your opinion.
>
>Jana wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:19:31 -0400, "David H. Ellison"
>> <camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Dear Jana,
>> >
>> >I think you got it :-) Look;
>> >
>> >Jana wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 02:47:39 -0400, "David H. Ellison"
>> >> <camas8d...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Really, I kinda feel sorry for people who pity other people... I don't
>> >> >thimk they get it.
>> >>
>> >> Then explain it to me.
>> >> I don't know that feeling sorry for someone and feeling pity are the
>> >> same thing, at least not to me.
>> >> And I need no one to feel sorry for me, or to pity me, just for the
>> >> record.
>> >
>> >Notice how that made you feel?
>>
>> Honestly, it didn't make me feel anything, I was just making a
>
>Then I do pity you and feel sorry for you after all, you just don't get it, do
>you?
And again, if I don't get it then why don't you take your own advice
and explain it to me instead of taking a stance of superiority?
>
>> statement.
>>
>> >St. Albans probably feels the same way,
>>
>> It's entirely up to him to choose how he feels about something someone
>> says to or about him. I cannot spend my time worrying about how others
>> will interpret what I am saying. If they aren't sure, they can always
>> ask.
>
>But of course, I agree entirely, why should you care about other peoples
>feelings.
And once again, I never said I didn't care about other people's
feelings. I NEVER set out to intentionally hurt anyone, so if it
happens, should I take the blame? I don't think so. If I had
intentionally set out to hurt someone, then yes, I shall take the
blame. And you are sure one to talk about other people's feelings...
>
>> >pity
>> >always seems condesending to me; when you say you pity someone, you are
>> >saying you are in some way superior to this person;
>>
>> I guess I did mean it in a consdescending sort of way, but I don't
>> feel superior to anyone.
>
>Not with an answer like that, how can you condescend with out looking down at
>someone... own a dictionary; need someone to read the big words for you?
No, I don't need anyone to do anything for me. I happen to know what
condescend means, but it is also in the way it is intended that is
important. I didn't intend to appear condescending, and I admitted
that maybe that is how I meant it after all. I make mistakes, and I
own up to them. But I have never been one to look down at another
person.
>
>> >it's one of those baby
>> >and the bath water things...
>
>> I have no idea what you mean by this statement.
>
>Hence the pity I have developed for you, how sad and pathetic you are...
I'll just lose so much sleep over worry about how you feel about
me....NOT!
>
>> >This kind of self serving crap makes me want
>> >to yak!
>>
>> Please, not here! (O:
>>
>> >
>> >It appears to be nothing more than egotism disguised as sympathy. If he
>> >didn't get 'it', why didn't you try to explain it to him?
>>
>> I guess because I felt it had already been explained.
>
>Guess I didn't get that post... where are you referring to? Explained that
>verse to Cat yet?
Dejanews archives...need me to show you how to use them? Oh, I
forgot, you already know how. You worry about your replies and I'll
handle mine.
>
>> He didn't give
>> the impression he was looking for an explanation either. Instead, he
>> chose insults over communication, but that seems to be the way things
>> go sometimes.
>
>Give me an example...
Your replies to most of my posts.
>
>> >Or were you more
>> >interested in enjoying your own learned status than contributing something
>> >helpful?
>>
>> You are free to see it that way if you choose.
>
>No sherlock, shit... and I don't even need your permission to do so.
Good for you.
>
>> I do contribute. And
>> I'm not sure what you mean by 'learned status',
>
>You were condescending because you think you know something David St. doesn't?
You're probably right, and I was wrong to do so.
>
>> I am still just Who I
>> Am.
>
>Well that was a redundant and pointless sentence; who cares who or what you
>are?
For one, I do, and that is all that matters.
>
>> >
>> >I don't pity you, or anyone else, your paths are not my paths... what
>> >appears to be a bridge to me, may be a wall to you, or vice versa... I can
>> >say what something looks like from here, but it does not confront me...
>> >finish your own path first, then if you still pity us, come back and get
>> >us.
>>
>> Why do you see yourself as being pitied?
>
>Never said this, the complexities of transformational grammar getting to you?
Then I guess you were not part of the 'then if you still pity us, come
back and get us' above....my mistake.
>
>> I don't recall ever having
>> said that.
>
>Neither did I.
At least we agree on something.
>
>> >
>> >> Jana (O:
>> >> "Know the truth--trust your feelings--and the truth shall set you
>> >> free."
>
>Want to test that with chains, cement and a bridge?
No test needed.
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
Jana
David H. Ellison
HChrist13 wrote:
> >Don't remember implying you were a fag, flaming or otherwise...
>
> In the last post I spat into this wonderful group, I included a quote from
> Charles Manson, a paraphrasing of that quote follows, along with what you
> added.
>
> "He who walks with god has nothing to fear from fruads." Charles Manson(my
> boyfriend)
Misspelled 'frauds.' LOL
> Now, if you couldn't guess, the "(my boyfriend)" part was yours.
Yeah, thats me alright; damn is it just me, or is that still as funny as I think it
is?
> >sheessh, can't take a
> >little criticism?
>
> I can take criticism, just not from Raine's lap dog.
Now, that's pretty good; not to long ago, that's what I called shiva. Now, I do
like Raine, and I like what she has to say... she's always been pretty nice to
me... Sorry, trying to figure out if I'm truely insulted by this or not. Do you
mean this literally or figurtivly?
> If you wish to reply to me with some at least partly intelligent remarks(I know
> you can do it, you're one of the few in here who can), flame or otherwise, I
> will glady accept. But calling me a sissy boy is not going to cut it.
Actually "sissy boy" was just a joke; LOL, I'm feeling a little too much ennui to
follow through with anything at the moment.
> Jeffrey Dahmer (Mountain Man) Johnson
Now that's funny!
David H. Ellison
Jana wrote a bunch of meaningless stuff:
Thought so.
Rofocale De Angeles
(HChrist13) writes:
>
>>Is that your best fucking insult; "you're a fucking moron" ? I bet
you
>>wouldn't
>>even respond to something that pitiful...
>>
>
>I completely agree, however, I do believe its better than your little
allusion
Blah blah blah self obsorbed bullshit and condescending snipped.
Look kids, I've been watching this thread develop all night and
it's pissing me off.
I remember back in the days when a fight would break out on this NG
and both sides would go out for blood. Non of this sissy explaining
insult crap. The good things about the fights were that they were
fuckin violent like and ALSO informative. This fuckin thread's a bunch
of panty waste about pity and delusions and self ritcheous namecalling
and crap.
Here's my advice:
1. Find something to FIGHT about!
2. Use more vulgarity.
3. Before you think of your insulting retort, think of WHY you need
to retort at all and what purpose it will serve.
4. Most importantly! Make god damned INFORMED fuckin posts.
This ain't alt.be.a.sissy
Rofocale
kurdtcat
--- Shiva --- wrote in message <6r5guh$evj$0...@208.207.70.28>...
>Mine says for 37:17
>
>Do you know why your garments get hot when the earth changes its
>position after the equinox?
Okay, so in here alone we have three different translations of the question
Raine posed to Annex...I am to presume that only Raine holds the key to
exactly what the correct response should have been? It seems the deck is
rather stacked in "her" favor then, huh? I'll be interested in seeing
exactly what happens next between these two forces...Raine/Annex...
HChrist13
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give smaller peptides with carboxyl-terminal lysine or arginine residues.
Your mother is a fucking whore, out screwing everyone in town, while you sit
around crying to daddy while he fucks you up your ass.
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follows:
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Jeffrey D Johnson
kurdtcat
Jana wrote in message <35d63f36....@news.flash.net>...
Dear Jana:
I do appreciate you're sharing your views on the Job verse with me but I
must admit I still don't really understand. I will give you my own
interpretation of Job 37, 14-20...
I take it to mean that we do NOT know why or how god does anything because
we are not "perfect in knowledge" as god is. For what it's worth that is
what I believe this to mean.
Respectfully yours, CAT
David H. Ellison
David H. Ellison
kurdtcat wrote:
> David H. Ellison wrote in message <35D5CB3D...@sprintmail.com>...
> >"high class" kids? And who do you think are the "high class" kids here?
> And
> >what made you think they were then
>
> David, tell me you have no idea that there are classes not only in this
> country but in this ng. Anyone who is not aware of this lives in a vacuum.
Yes, there are economic classes here, if you want to think of them as high, go
ahead.
> I notice you totally ignored the part of my post about Mark, isn't it true
> he's been run out of here time and time again? What gives anyone in here
> the right to call him "deluded" or anything else...
Because I don't subscribe to the "even the criminally insane have a right to
live." If someone steals they are a thief. If they kill twelve people because
the color blue sets them off they are a serial killer, and if you've taken the
time to read my posts you will see that I came around to the position that since
Marks posts harmed only himself, that further attack was unnecessary.
And if I may anticipate your next question? Mark wanted more than just
validation for what he believed, he wanted converts; and it wasn't happening. He
became more frustrated and agitated and his posts more distorted and
belligerent. Even as Gabriel or Shiva stated that they disagreed Mark would turn
that around and claim this disagreement signified acceptance... Their was no
reality testing going on here, just some kind of onomatomania
> any on-looker might think
> the same about most of the rest of us in here. We're all entitled to our
> own opinions whether others agree with them or not.
Like the opinion that someone else is full of it?
> >Then work to change it through your posts, or whine and complain while
> >lurking... When you posted, you often had people discussing; but you can't
> >demand people give you respect you will not give yourself...
>
> The only respect I'd like to see in here is a respect for other people's
> ideas no matter how "off the wall" some might believe them to be. Go back
> and read the names posters have been called in here. So what if the
> heiarchy doesn't agree with what someone else says, does that make it any
> less informational? You can convince more through patience and
> understanding than through that constant name calling.
And some just want to hold on to their own beliefs no matter what... Still think
the worlds flat?
> >Time to go hide....
>
> Whatever you say!
> >
> >> This is CAT signing off and wearing her
> >> "ignorance" like a cloak..
> >
> >...more like a metal or a badge... (reverse snobbery)
>
> Now, that is soooooooooo funny I can't stop laughing.
>
> Feels like I never left. CAT
Good.
Rev. Daron
--- Shiva --- wrote:
> Mine says for 37:17
>
> Do you know why your garments get hot when the earth changes its
> position after the equinox?
The NIV says "(17) You who swelter in your clothes when the land lies
hushed under the South wind, (18) can you join him in spreading out the
skies, hard as a mirror of cast bronze?"
And what was the original question: "Do you know why your clothes keep
you warm in the winter?"
It seems that the NIV would be asking the opposite question as in the
northern hemisphere, south winds are typically in the summer time.
Perhaps her question should have been, "Do you know why your clothes
make you hot in the summer?"
Regardless, it is obvious that it was meant as a test. And, there would
have been no acceptable answer for JhiaRaine other than a simple "God
only knows." Mind you, these questions were not said ot be
unanswerable, but simply unanswerable to Job. Needless to say, modern
science could produce many acceptable answers for at least two or three
of the twelve. In which case, I have another bible verse to throw back
at JhiaRaine (not my usual way of debate):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be
measured to you."
This does not mean that you should blindly accept all things, but simply
that you should keep an open mind and not be too quick to judge.
Peace,
Rev. Daron
Raine
David T. St. Albans-Pudelwitts wrote:
>
> Dear JhiaRaine,
> Namaste'
How dare you use that word at the beginning of such an inane attempt at
a flame?
and hello! You have asked a question which once again tests the
> authority
You have no authority.
and purpose of Annex's mission, which is help, solace, concern and
> total honesty towards humanity.
You have no purpose.
You are about as honest as the rest of the entire collective bunch of
self-gratifying, swamp-garbage that had the ignorance to use your post
as a personal attack ground against me without having the nerve, which
at least Chorozon did, to come straight out and at me personally.
Suggests to me that none of the posters to this thread except for a
couple, had anything worth saying or listening to and they knew it,
including you.
If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen. If you
can't understand English, why did you bother to ask anyone to ask
questions?
> I ask who are you to pose such tests?
I ask who are YOU that you would ask for questions and then flog someone
for asking because YOU are too thick to even get the question, let alone
the answer? And you have the nerve to try and tell someone you can
answer their questions? If this is the best you can do, you blew it.
> Obviously you think you are someone.
Obviously I AM someone. You are reading the words I have posted here. I
don't ask anyone to ask me questions and then flame them for asking. I
either answer as honestly as I can, or refer them to someone or some
reference material that will. All you have spoken here are generalities.
Just like the telephone psychics you claim to want no part
of. This garbage is certainly not from informed sources. You have
managed to call all of the trolls out of the woodwork though. Gutless
wonders, every one.
Jeffrey, I have already put you in your place. You are a flea. And CAT,
obviously, YOU have fleas. You are all sniveling, whining cowards who
need to attack in numbers because you can't take the truth for what it
is. And the truth is that not ONE of you understood the original post to
Poodle-wits, and he didn't either, making him as phoney and sniveling as
you are.
BTW, his *story* sounds painfully familiar as it is quite similar to
Mark's.
As for YOU, Poodle, I don't have links to either Joe OR Amber, but they
must be okay if they bother you.
But whom? I wonder. Could you have
> links to JoeDeSorte, and Amber? Why do you need convincing of anything? I
> find your sort just plain silly and your question is sillier still, it is of
> absolutely no import. But, for fun I'll pose it to Annex and post it anyway.
> David St. Albans
How can you post a question you can't read, let alone understand, and
then purport to answer from *angels*?
> Scroll down, thou foolish mortal!
By all means, Poodle-wits. Please scroll on down.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raine <jmt...@usaor.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.religion.angels
> To: David T. St. Albans-Pudelwitts <whispe...@email.msn.com>
> Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 6:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Angelic Answers-St. Albans/Annex
This was the original question:
>
> >I have a question for you, David. It might sound simplistic, but it
> >isn't, yet it is the least of the 12 questions that require answers.
> >Do you know WHY you know to wear warm clothes in the winter?
Keep scrolling netherwits, and yes, CAT, and Jeffrey, that includes you
both:
This is MY answer to YOUR answer, Poodle-wits:
This is so off the wall, it is sickening. How dare you assume such a
position of stupidity and post it as a *message* from angels? Or did you
really mean to imply that your angels are stupid?
>
> Annex answers: "David may or may not know why he knows to wear warm clothes
> in the winter.
Yeah, Jahweh answers too.....
If *David* doesn't know why he does or doesn't do anything, then he
might as well return to the 1-900 number he came here from. Does Don
know why HE does anything?
Clue: This question had absolutely nothing at all to do with *clothes*.
So to answer a question without knowing the premise is doubly stupid.
Make that 1-1800.
> Most likely
Most likely? That is an answer???
he does this to keep warm, as he was taught by
> his mother. Are you asking why YOU wear warm clothes in the winter, or how
> you know too? Same answer, you were taught to. Look to those raised by
> wolves, do they wear clothes at all? No! Why not? They weren't taught to. Do
> you ask how WE know to wear warm clothes in the winter? We don't. There is
> no winter here. We wear what garments our souls prefer. Though we don't need
> any. Neither would you, if you had been taught another way to keep warm.
> Your question is somewhat unbelievable to us.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
And your reply is absolutely the most unbelievably, self-serving
response to a serious question I have ever seen.
And do not go forth and say,
> "Oh, that is because the angels are not real, for they are not able to read
> my mind!" We read your mind loud and clear.
Kid, you couldn't get close enough to my shadow to read my mind. I won't
say, and never have said, that *angels* aren't real. But I say that YOU
are not real, and this answer is not real, let alone true. This reply
did not come from any angel.
> mind which has a path of its own which allows no other love or care or
> thought of another upon it. It is a self-centered mind and a mind which
> perceives doubt, evil and sinful passions in everyone but itself. We hereby
> declare we refuse to answer any and all types of these testing, provocative
> questions which only seek to malign in their obscufications and morbidity."
> Annex.
Obs-cu-fi-ca-tions? Don't you know we can't read words with more than
two syllables? We can spell them though.
Right, ANUS. That is exactly correct. I obfuscate and malign, with
repeated morbidity.
Pretender! You know me NOT! As to the question, you know IT not.
> >This is not a phony question. It is a necessary question. The answer is
> >needed for guidance.
Let me repeat the question in plain English, Faker. Then post it to your
ANUS and I shall be on pins and needles waiting for your next dumb
flame.
The question is, in fact, about something you are obviously lacking in.
It is called thought, brains, that kind of thing.
Do you know WHY you KNOW ___________ anything at all?
What do you NEED before you can KNOW or be TAUGHT any thing at all?
Do you know why you THINK....or others do, you don't seem to....?
When did you receive the gift of reason?
WHY did you receive the gift of reason?
Where did it come from? No one TAUGHT it to you.
HOW do you KNOW you are warm?
HOW do you KNOW you are cold?
Now that is only part of the question, one lousy question that your
group mind couldn't even understand, so instead of seeking
clarification, you chose to respond in a way that the question was not
posed. It was an honest question and no flame was ever intended. But you
did not deserve even that much respect, therefore, you get none.
You are a fool.
And, Cat??? You have one hell of a lot of nerve.
And Jeffrey, cocka-doodle-do!
You are both just too classy indeed for my humble self.
Enjoy your ignorance and I'll ignore my intolerance for it.
--
JhiaRaine
As Ever
Raine
Chorozon wrote:
>
> And JhiaRaine or whatever the fuck you feign identity as, you should make
> friends with this drone because they actually make you appear normal in
> contrast alone.
>
> Salivate salivate.
> Pavlov's god.
I thought Pavlov's god was a bell.....then salivate. Ummm. Right?
Or was Pavlov the god that had a bell that he rang to cause salivation?
And what did he create except a bunch of non-thinking, weak-minded,
cowardly units like the ones who posted to this thread?
>
> Love in Christ or whichever dog you would not blaspheme.
>
> Chorozon
>
> NOT Copyright: August 14, 1998 (You are free to distribute this straight
> into your ass.)
Why, thank you, Chorozon. I can't seem to lift it off my screen though,
and my printer doesn't do enemas.
BTW, the copyright thing was just little old me saying hi to someone who
used to do that all the time...
Ummm. What be the teeny *c* after the name of this header?
Love in Poodles,
--
JhiaRaine
Rev. Daron
Raine wrote:
Enjoy your ignorance and I'll ignore my intolerance for it.
What you appear to be lacking, Raine, is a bit of love in your life. You've obviously found these newsgroups to be a good outlet for your pent up hostilities and inadequacies... For this reason, I can not find it in my heart to be annoyed by you, chorozon, katz, david, or any of others who choose this forum for a place to argue. I only prey that such battles help to make each of you more well-balanced in your day-to-day lives. I love you, and wish you all the best.
As for those readers who are seeking an enlightening debate on angels, I ask of you to not go elsewhere, but to stay here and put up with such debates. Those who are striking out against one another are really, deep down inside, trying to fill an empty void. For what everybody in this world can use is simply a bit of love. Shower these people with love, respect, and forgiveness and they either will change their ways or else become so sickened as to never set foot in this sub again. If each of us replies to every negative message with a simple, "We love you," these positive posts will outnumber the negative ones at least 10 to one if not more.
Peace & Love,
The Neuronaut
AKA Rev. Daron of the ULC
Raine
Rev. Daron wrote:
Because he THOUGHT he knew what Raine wrote:
>
>
>
> Raine wrote:
>
> > Enjoy your ignorance and I'll ignore my intolerance for it.
>
> What you appear to be lacking, Raine, is a bit of love in your life.
What you appear to be lacking, sir, is the ability to read a sentence
correctly. I ignored the first, but I must tell you, I do not like to be
accosted by strangers telling me what I do and do not lack, what they
think I do or do not know, or more annoyingly, someone who answers a
post without knowing what the question or the topic is.
> You've obviously found these newsgroups to be a good outlet for your
> pent up hostilities and inadequacies... For this reason, I can not
> find it in my heart to be annoyed by you, chorozon, katz, david, or
> any of others who choose this forum for a place to argue. I only prey
> that such battles help to make each of you more well-balanced in your
> day-to-day lives. I love you, and wish you all the best.
Was *prey* a Freudian slip? Seems I have turned into prey by a number of
you here. That is fine. Maybe Boggle was right. Except prey, by your
definition, is something you stalk or hunt. In this case, you have
created a paradox. First you tell me how bad I am, then proceed to tell
me I am loved. Are you nuts???? You post to an entire thread of swill
directed at me, and then tell ME what I *appear* to be lacking?
>
> As for those readers who are seeking an enlightening debate on angels,
> I ask of you to not go elsewhere, but to stay here and put up with
> such debates. Those who are striking out against one another are
> really, deep down inside, trying to fill an empty void. For what
> everybody in this world can use is simply a bit of love. Shower these
> people with love, respect, and forgiveness and they either will change
> their ways or else become so sickened as to never set foot in this sub
> again. If each of us replies to every negative message with a simple,
> "We love you," these positive posts will outnumber the negative ones
> at least 10 to one if not more.
If you will read the thread you posted to, Red Baron, you would see that
the thread grew ever longer and longer without my participation. And the
participants were people who wanted to extract a pound of flesh without
having the nerve to come right out and say it. Cowards...and you helped.
Now aren't you just soooo proud of yourself?
>
> Peace & Love,
> The Neuronaut
> AKA Rev. Daron of the ULC
Ah, yes...neuro---NOT!!!
BTW. We love YOU too.
--
JhiaRaine
As Ever
Raine
>
> --- Shiva --- wrote:
>
> > Mine says for 37:17
> >
> > Do you know why your garments get hot when the earth changes its
> > position after the equinox?
>
> The NIV says "(17) You who swelter in your clothes when the land lies
> hushed under the South wind, (18) can you join him in spreading out the
> skies, hard as a mirror of cast bronze?"
>
> And what was the original question: "Do you know why your clothes keep
> you warm in the winter?"
No. The original question was:
Do you know WHY you know to wear warm clothes in winter?
Chop, chop!
Do you KNOW WHY you KNOW?
>
> It seems that the NIV would be asking the opposite question as in the
> northern hemisphere, south winds are typically in the summer time.
> Perhaps her question should have been, "Do you know why your clothes
> make you hot in the summer?"
My question was exactly what it *should* have been. Now my question is
why couldn't anybody read what was written there? And why didn't anyone
even try to answer it without taking aim with pea-shooters disguised as
M-16s?
>
> Regardless, it is obvious that it was meant as a test. And, there would
> have been no acceptable answer for JhiaRaine other than a simple "God
> only knows."
Excuse me. I cannot accept an answer to a question I never asked. As to
the question I DID ask, no one understood the question, so many answers
that would have been acceptable were never attempted. It isn't for me
anyway. The answers are for yourselves.
> Mind you, these questions were not said ot be
> unanswerable, but simply unanswerable to Job. Needless to say, modern
> science could produce many acceptable answers for at least two or three
> of the twelve. In which case, I have another bible verse to throw back
> at JhiaRaine (not my usual way of debate):
>
> "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
> others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be
> measured to you."
Why, sir, THAT would be refreshing.
>
> This does not mean that you should blindly accept all things, but simply
> that you should keep an open mind and not be too quick to judge.
I do not blindly accept all things, my friend, but I do not answer posts
when I don't know what they say either so that when I do respond, it is
with at least a small measure of understanding just what, and in what
context, the post was written. A bit of advice some of you more virulent
posters might want to explore before you use your anger as an excuse to
make personal attacks. All you ever do by posting angerly for no reason
is to show your own weaknesses.
>
> Peace,
BTW, has it occurred to any of you that you all used revised or *new*
revised editions of Christian Bibles to take your *quotes* from? And did
any of you bother to notice that G-D never gave Job an answer? All G-d
*gave* him were questions. The words might be different in different
editions, but the reason for the Book is always the same. The REASON is
reason. These are the things man has to learn. Pay attention instead of
blindly attacking everything that moves in a different direction than
you do.
As Jana repeated, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
The questions in Job were not based on religion. They were not simply
based on science, for science, as it is known, is often wrong. It is a
book of guidelines that is a roadmap to the stars. And if DHE looks in
HIS reading material, he will find the SAME questions with different
words. They are essential questions. They are real and true questions
put to man before man knew to call himself *man*. These are questions
that tell you the knowledge you must have before your planetary bonds
are lifted.
Say what you will of me. Stomp your feet and holler until you are
hoarse. Shoot until your bullets are gone. The truth will remain the
truth whether you like it or not. And the TRUTH will set you free.
Ta-ta,
--
JhiaRaine
The Anti-Cult
HChrist13
I don't recall being put in my place, but if you need to believe that in order
to keep from chewing on the good end of a shotgun, go ahead, I don't mind.
Also, as far as I know, I'm not a flea. Maybe it just looks that way to you
from all the way up on your crumbling pedestal.
It sounds to me from the rest of this thread like you're feeling a bit
inadequate and lashing out at those you see as aggressors. Tsk, tsk, dear
Mother Of Wolves, maybe you should work on self-actualization before you go
looking for <INSERT WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE CALLING GOD THIS WEEK>. A healthy
self image will do you a lot more good out here in the real world(where
_humans_ live) than any etheral being ever will.
Jeffrey D Johnson,
Comfortable with who he is, and unshaken by those who wish to destroy him
Raine
Are there echos in this news group? Didn't I just post a rather long
post about coversation? Was it not too long before that I thought it was
rather funny to be seen by some characters posting here as a *matriarch*
of anything, let alone of this NG? Wasn't it me who has ranted through
the years that there IS no hierarchy here? And wasn't it Cat that ganged
up on her own self and said she was never coming back, yet we begged her
not to leave?
Gee, CAT, I'm so sorry now. You've gone and made a liar of me. I thought
(and said)that you were pretty special. Really what you are is a
jealous, self-deprecating, bitter, and whiney woman who needs to fish
for compliments by putting yourself, (or others,) down so that
someone...anyone at all...will tell you how wrong you are...how really
wonderful you are.
Will it serve your ego well to *take me down*, Cat? You won't do it. You
can't. All I have ever done is tell you the truth. If you can't take it,
and you feel better calling me names, which I don't do, BTW, except for
a play on words here and there, then have at it. At the end of the day,
you will still be a bitter, jealous woman, and I will still be me. So
whatever it is you expect to change with your baseless insults, won't.
Have you ever heard of *overkill*, Cat? Because that is what you are
doing. Most of the tried and true posters here know me better than that
and you do too. You just don't like it. Well, that's just too damn bad.
You talk about class as if it could actually exist on a newsgroup. You
don't know me or anything about me, and I wouldn't tell you if you asked
because you are the kind of person who really believes your life has
been so terribly hard that no one else's could be worse. Poor you. That
says NOTHING about *class*, CAT. Class is going through it, coming out
with just a little more understanding of what others go through, seeing
yourself in every human mirror you look into, and trying to find that
humanity in everyone. It isn't what you have, it's what you ARE.
YOU are the one whose every post has *human* put-downs in it. You are
the one who says she is *proud* of her ignorance. That is not classy.
That is ridiculous in the extreme.
I never asked anyone to agree with me. I certainly don't become angry if
someone doesn't agree. I do become angry at being attacked for no
reason, whether it is you or anyone else that attacks. You want to be
the Mama for awhile, Cat? Go ahead. Help somebody without their needing
to tell you first how *wonderful* you are. Help somebody without
throwing the guilt of YOUR life on them. Pick up somebody like Mark and
set him on his feet over and over again while he is trying to drown you
both.
In the meantime, while you are figuring out what *class* you are today,
please allow me to help you. Bear in mind, that it was you who brought
up class, and it was Jeffey who brought up racism. Both of you have no
class at all. And together, you have less.
As for wearing your ignorance with pride, you do wear it well.
David H. Ellison wrote:
>
> kurdtcat wrote:
>
> > David H. Ellison wrote in message <35D5CB3D...@sprintmail.com>...
> > >"high class" kids? And who do you think are the "high class" kids here?
> > And
> > >what made you think they were then
> >
> > David, tell me you have no idea that there are classes not only in this
> > country but in this ng. Anyone who is not aware of this lives in a vacuum.
>
> Yes, there are economic classes here, if you want to think of them as high, go
> ahead.
>
> > I notice you totally ignored the part of my post about Mark, isn't it true
> > he's been run out of here time and time again? What gives anyone in here
> > the right to call him "deluded" or anything else...
The same thing that you suppose gave YOU the right to come out of left
field wearing razor-blades for teeth. Red meat....ummmmm-good!
>
>
> > any on-looker might think
> > the same about most of the rest of us in here. We're all entitled to our
> > own opinions whether others agree with them or not.
Right again, Cat. You are entitled to your opinion. And if you still
subscribe to the opinion that you are worthless, I promise never to
disagree with you again. Honest.
>
> Like the opinion that someone else is full of it?
Yeah, she did say that didn't she? Oh, well. You can't please everyone
all the time.
>
> > >Then work to change it through your posts, or whine and complain while
> > >lurking... When you posted, you often had people discussing; but you can't
> > >demand people give you respect you will not give yourself...
> >
> > The only respect I'd like to see in here is a respect for other people's
> > ideas no matter how "off the wall" some might believe them to be.
Ideas are one thing. When you insist on making them true for everyone as
if ideas were facts without knowing whether they are true; if you insist
on making baseless statements without knowing the facts; then you are
not merely an uninvolved or interested poster, you are a liar.
Go back
> > and read the names posters have been called in here.
Like, for instance, *the Great Raine*? Like *the matriarch* of ARA? Like
being told by a snivelly, snotty-nosed kid that I was *probably* a
*cheerleader* in high school that went to college on *mommy and daddy's
money* and got a (pick your degree?)
Get off it, Cat. I'm not going to spend my time trying to explain MY
life to you. You don't have the right to know. So do your worst, Mama.
You can't hurt me but you ain't doing yourself no favors either. See,
Cat, sooner or later the real you comes out. And there you are naked in
front of the world. Your words give you nowhere to hide.
So what if the
> > heiarchy doesn't agree with what someone else says, does that make it any
> > less informational? You can convince more through patience and
> > understanding than through that constant name calling.
Oh. You mean like your last several posts? What IS your truth, CAT?
Hypocrisy does not become you.
>
> And some just want to hold on to their own beliefs no matter what... Still think
> the worlds flat?
>
> > >Time to go hide....
> >
> > Whatever you say!
> > >
> > >> This is CAT signing off and wearing her
> > >> "ignorance" like a cloak..
> > >
> > >...more like a metal or a badge... (reverse snobbery)
> >
> > Now, that is soooooooooo funny I can't stop laughing.
> >
> > Feels like I never left. CAT
Yes, it is hilarious, isn't it? Hilarious, but tragic and so true. Now
think, Cat...why are you really angry at me?
>
> Good.
Yeah, David...just swell.
--
JhiaRaine
Auntie Cult
HChrist13
Every time you post it seems I come up. I need to tell you, however, that I
will never, ever, ever sleep with you. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it
is.
Jeffrey D Johnson
Raine
>
> In <199808151900...@ladder01.news.aol.com> hchr...@aol.com
> (HChrist13) writes:
> >
> >>Is that your best fucking insult; "you're a fucking moron" ? I bet
> you
> >>wouldn't
> >>even respond to something that pitiful...
> >>
> >
> >I completely agree, however, I do believe its better than your little
> allusion
>
> Blah blah blah self obsorbed bullshit and condescending snipped.
>
> it's pissing me off.
Yeah, me too. Only for me, it has been days.
> I remember back in the days when a fight would break out on this NG
> and both sides would go out for blood. Non of this sissy explaining
> insult crap. The good things about the fights were that they were
> fuckin violent like and ALSO informative. This fuckin thread's a bunch
> of panty waste about pity and delusions and self ritcheous namecalling
> and crap.
Ain't it though? I find it difficult to cuss much, so when I really want
to, I evoke the name of Rofocale. Then EVERYBODY knows what I mean...I
mean used to know.
> Here's my advice:
> 1. Find something to FIGHT about!
Really.....maybe this new generation doesn't understand the concept of
an honest fight. Underhandedness and NOT saying what you really mean
seems to have taken over quite a few psyches lately.
> 2. Use more vulgarity.
I'm trying, but my fingers just won't. Oh, Rofocale! anyway.
> 3. Before you think of your insulting retort, think of WHY you need
> to retort at all and what purpose it will serve.
Tried not to retort. Rmemember when I didn't before and the whole NG had
headers with my name in bold print? Well...here it is again. I'd almost
rather have Tomandsuny back...almost. For now, though, I feel better
than sitting and watching the heavy-duty build-up. One or two replies is
enough. Now they can fight their silly fight with each other. I don't
like gang-rape.
> 4. Most importantly! Make god damned INFORMED fuckin posts.
Seems you've nailed the problem. The uninformed pleading the cases of
the misinformed so they can all pile on those that ARE informed. Kill
the messenger, destroy the message, and everyone can remain ignorant,
lazy, manipulative, and cruel.
>
> This ain't alt.be.a.sissy
It ain't alt.be.a.backstabber either.
>
> Rofocale
Here, kitty, kitty....
--
Raine
men...@pacbell.net
Do you have a web sight? I personally do comminicate with angels but I
have no desire to test what you are saying.I like your information and
I think it`s great that your helping others with your guidance.
The best of luck to you.
Love,
Minerva
men...@pacbell.net
David H. Ellison
Raining (Reigning?) everywhere at once it seems; Raine wrote:
Hey, maybe puns like these only encourge the "lower classes?" ROFLMAO
> And if DHE looks in
> HIS reading material, he will find the SAME questions with different
> words. They are essential questions.
Sorry, I have an aversion to the Bible, even though I probably own about six
(just like anything, I never trust a single translation). The oldest one was
published circa 1890... I'm afraid this thread does not encourge me to look
there.
However, my sincere thanks to those few people who pointed me in the direction
of this quote, without mindlessly screaming that I should already know these
things... how long since last I opened a bible... don't know, when next I do;
I'll keep you posted!
> Ta-ta,
> --
> JhiaRaine
> The Anti-Cult
see ya, auntie...
David H. Ellison
HChrist13 wrote:
> Jeffrey D Johnson,
> Comfortable with who he is, and unshaken by those who wish to destroy him
And insecure enough to tell everyone... When in doubt;
David H. Ellison
Nice to see you again Raine.
In kindest regards, Raine wrote:
> Dear DHE,
> Are there echos in this news group?
Sorry, kind of hard to hear you with all of this sound bouncing around!!!!
> Didn't I just post a rather long
> post about coversation? Was it not too long before that I thought it was
> rather funny to be seen by some characters posting here as a *matriarch*
> of anything, let alone of this NG? Wasn't it me who has ranted through
> the years that there IS no hierarchy here? And wasn't it Cat that ganged
> up on her own self and said she was never coming back, yet we begged her
> not to leave?
(For the hundred time... I'm out of here) Answer to all of the above; YES! (do the
questions get harder... no fair going back to that Job thing, one more of his
questions and my newsreader won't be able to handle all the non replies!)
> Gee, CAT, I'm so sorry now. You've gone and made a liar of me. I thought
> (and said)that you were pretty special. Really what you are is a
> jealous, self-deprecating, bitter, and whiney woman who needs to fish
> for compliments by putting yourself, (or others,) down so that
> someone...anyone at all...will tell you how wrong you are...how really
> wonderful you are.
I have to agree with everything here; but that's what us lap dogs do.
> Will it serve your ego well to *take me down*, Cat? You won't do it. You
> can't. All I have ever done is tell you the truth. If you can't take it,
> and you feel better calling me names, which I don't do, BTW, except for
> a play on words here and there, then have at it. At the end of the day,
> you will still be a bitter, jealous woman, and I will still be me. So
> whatever it is you expect to change with your baseless insults, won't.
> Have you ever heard of *overkill*, Cat? Because that is what you are
> doing. Most of the tried and true posters here know me better than that
> and you do too. You just don't like it. Well, that's just too damn bad.
> You talk about class as if it could actually exist on a newsgroup. You
> don't know me or anything about me, and I wouldn't tell you if you asked
> because you are the kind of person who really believes your life has
> been so terribly hard that no one else's could be worse. Poor you. That
> says NOTHING about *class*, CAT. Class is going through it, coming out
> with just a little more understanding of what others go through, seeing
> yourself in every human mirror you look into, and trying to find that
> humanity in everyone. It isn't what you have, it's what you ARE.
> YOU are the one whose every post has *human* put-downs in it. You are
> the one who says she is *proud* of her ignorance. That is not classy.
> That is ridiculous in the extreme.
Know the difference between ignorant and stupid yet, CAT?
> I never asked anyone to agree with me. I certainly don't become angry if
> someone doesn't agree. I do become angry at being attacked for no
> reason, whether it is you or anyone else that attacks. You want to be
> the Mama for awhile, Cat? Go ahead. Help somebody without their needing
> to tell you first how *wonderful* you are. Help somebody without
> throwing the guilt of YOUR life on them. Pick up somebody like Mark and
> set him on his feet over and over again while he is trying to drown you
> both.
> In the meantime, while you are figuring out what *class* you are today,
> please allow me to help you. Bear in mind, that it was you who brought
> up class, and it was Jeffey who brought up racism. Both of you have no
> class at all. And together, you have less.
> As for wearing your ignorance with pride, you do wear it well.
>
> David H. Ellison wrote:
> >
> > kurdtcat wrote:
> >
> > > David H. Ellison wrote in message <35D5CB3D...@sprintmail.com>...
> > > >"high class" kids? And who do you think are the "high class" kids here?
>
> Like, for instance, *the Great Raine*? Like *the matriarch* of ARA?
The Great Rain lasted 40 days (hey, I said that!). That's like "Mother" ? LOL
> Like
> being told by a snivelly, snotty-nosed kid that I was *probably* a
> *cheerleader* in high school
Can I see you in your pom poms?
> that went to college on *mommy and daddy's
> money* and got a (pick your degree?)
Actually, Raine has a degree in Anthropology; check her out in the Library of
Congress, she's contributed to several high brow (no, I didn't say class) journals and
scholarly publications.
> Get off it, Cat. I'm not going to spend my time trying to explain MY
> life to you. You don't have the right to know. So do your worst, Mama.
> You can't hurt me but you ain't doing yourself no favors either. See,
> Cat, sooner or later the real you comes out. And there you are naked in
> front of the world. Your words give you nowhere to hide.
>
> So what if the
> > > heiarchy doesn't agree with what someone else says, does that make it any
> > > less informational? You can convince more through patience and
> > > understanding than through that constant name calling.
>
> Oh. You mean like your last several posts? What IS your truth, CAT?
> Hypocrisy does not become you.
> >
> > And some just want to hold on to their own beliefs no matter what... Still think
> > the worlds flat?
> >
> > > >Time to go hide....
> > >
> > > Whatever you say!
> > > >
> > > >> This is CAT signing off and wearing her
> > > >> "ignorance" like a cloak..
> > > >
> > > >...more like a metal or a badge... (reverse snobbery)
> > >
> > > Now, that is soooooooooo funny I can't stop laughing.
> > >
> > > Feels like I never left. CAT
>
> Yes, it is hilarious, isn't it? Hilarious, but tragic and so true. Now
> think, Cat...why are you really angry at me?
> >
> > Good.
>
> Yeah, David...just swell.
.... bye (?), must've dropped a word? ROFL
> --
> JhiaRaine
> Auntie Cult
You ain't related to Auntie Christ are you? Nope, I must be thinking of Auntie Thesis.
David H. Ellison
is finished, the workshop is dismantled." Perhaps after the work was done
the stories remained.
The Sufi would teach Joyous Dancing one place, use stories, be examples,
or work through an established religion; what ever the time or place
required; but it was always slightly different. Just a local example.
That the lesser Gods (now there's a concept), became the Angels or Demons
of modern mythology should come as no surprise... A lot of the familiar
names remained, for the Babylonians and Assyrians whose many influences
crossed time. There was a certain comfort to hearing their names
remembered; later in both Greece and Rome there was much comparison that
went on; not only did this serve to bring new followers into the fold, it
weakened many of the older systems of worship and belief.
I don't believe that certain religious systems are so dependent upon
milieu that they are unworkable; say here in America where I live for
instance. Hinduism as an example; at least one branch began over 6000
years ago, even a place like India changes in 6000 years; it picked up and
discarded it's share of cultural detritus, yet it still has many adherents
today; if there wasn't some flexibility built into the beliefs (like
adopting Gods and Goddesses), they would not have survived.
--- Shiva --- wrote:
> whatever.. it seems a common thought among
> SOME mainline religions that there is ONE head, but he is a triune
> God..3 parts.. various groups call each part by a different name..
> And what IF there was 1 head, and throughout history, the aspect of
> the 'god' WAS altered to fit in with the belief system of each group
> of people in the world... the oddity is that
> the religion of a CERTAIN group, FITS THAT GROUP, and doesn't
> necessarily work for others, a slight combination of both religion AND
> living conditions... what's the commonality?
> the virgin births were always foretold, always would be a 'savior' or
> someone that would alter mankind.. the names were even similar..
> the FLOODS.. saved a VERY FEW people, and certain other things, rained
> for the almost same period of time, etc..
>
> What if its ALL 1 story? passed down from UNTOLD generations in the
> past, altered to fit the local people, or in the case of certain
> events( virgin births and saviors) repeated until mankind 'got the
> story' and EVERYONE in the planet knew the history of how it all
> began..
Rofocale De Angeles
That's a great start Jeffrey,
It was funny, yet thrashing and you topped it all off
informatively.
Now all you need is a target.....not moi of course, that'd be bad.
I give it an 8.5
Rofocale
Raine
>
> Rev wrote..
> There's no need to summon Lucifuge Rofocale, prime minister in the
> infernal
> regions. Besides, what does the ruler of wealth, money, and treasures
> have
> to do with anything??? I take it this is a threat based on his
> mythological
> ties to hell. Instead, why not simply evoke Melchisedec, king of
> righteousness and peace? Then perhaps good intentions would prevail.
Dear Red Baron...I like that better. It matches your eyes. Anyway, the
road to hell is paved with good intentions, remember? Besides, I'm not
all that sure that the persons I would frame that to would understand
how to say the word let alone know its meaning...
>
> ... then you haven't had the pleasure of meeting/talking to Rofocale,
> who is sometimes here..
> THEN you would understand the reference..
Oh, yes. He has had the pleasure many times although I don't think you
could call what they did *talking*. How do you think I learned my way
around in here?
>
> BTW.. Rofocale, LOVED than answer you posted a few days ago.. Oh for
> the good old days..
Amen!!!
'Scuse me...Awoman!!!
--
Raine
David H. Ellison
Sat...@viperlink.net
hchr...@aol.com (HChrist13) wrote:
> You cock-sucking, shit-eatin' motherfuckin piece of crap.
> Trypsin cleaves a peptide chain specifically at positively charged residues
to
> give smaller peptides with carboxyl-terminal lysine or arginine residues.
> Your mother is a fucking whore, out screwing everyone in town, while you sit
> around crying to daddy while he fucks you up your ass.
> The basic syntax for specifying a translation table as a resource is as
> follows:
> [object*[subobject...]]*translations... #override\
> [modifier]<event>: action
>
> Jeffrey D Johnson
>
Bravo! That's the spirit, Jeff. If you're going to go to war, make your
weaponry worth the effort to cast it...
Applause from the Chemistry major/programmer who currently bakes bread for a
living..
Ahh, my heart sings...
;)
--
pound the drums with martial beat
pound the streets with marching feet
wounded pride, distorted eyes
paint the night with battlecries...
boys and girls together
mistake conceit for pride...
-Rush "War Paint"
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Noorennisa
oh well, some people like to freeze. What the hell does this post have to do
with angels? hell? pergatory? well just an after thought I did use the word
hell.
Start heatin them there fires there's choir boys comin for a cookout.
Noorennisa
LOVE AND TOLERANCE. REAL RAW LOVE. UNANOUNCED. BUT THEN THERE IS REAL LOVE.
DESPITE ALL RELIGIOUS MAN MADE WOMAN MADE CIRCUMSTANCE. THERE IS REAL LOVE.
DESPITE ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO SPOIL THINGS.
noor