Discussions - alt.recovery.religion

Why Would a Creator Keep on Destroying His Creation? > wow. get a look at this fellows ' science ' and theology...

...He repeatedly destroyed not " everything " but specific things... like unrepentant sinner's. take a look around yourself... the earth and you are still here. who's running away ? ...your kind runs away from answering by your science this one... which elements constitute life. ? i'll help you since you can't answer this that one... none. so where did life... more »

By old man joe - Nov 8 - 1 new of 1 message

	Evolution : the suspension of one's belief in reality...
	it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and conclude it's there by chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an intelligent person but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties cease. all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these Atheist's say the... more » By old man joe - Nov 7 - 6 new of 6 messages

	It's an amazing thing that the co-redeemer's think they commune with God while they can't even commune with the elect... 1 Jn. 2:19
	" They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us. " 1 Jn. 2:19 NASB **************************** ************************** ************************** ***************... more » By old man joe - Nov 5 - 1 new** of 1 message

	How the co-redeemer's redefine " received " in Jn. 1:12 in order to make salvation conditional on man's will...
	" But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. " Jn. 1:12,13 KJV to begin with, when the co-redeemer's quote this verse they quote only Jn. 1:12. they... more » By old man joe - Nov 4 - 1 new of 1 message

The Atheists scoff challenging God to show Himself... as if doing so will mean anything to an Atheist... Eph. 2:12

in Eph. 2:12 the phrase " without God " is rendered from the Greek word ' atheos. ' it means much more than not believing there is Almighty God, Maker of heaven and earth. the word describes an action of God which resulted in a judgement against Adam and his posterity due to Adam's fall. when God said to Adam concerning his being forbidden to eat... more »

By old man joe - Nov 3 - 1 new of 1 message

Freetruth.info is not ' free ' but is yet another salvation by works gospel of Commandment keeping

desiring to be justified by Commandment keeping... but only the 10 Commandments... the freetruth people violate their own creed by being false witnesses as they condemn all other's who don't see Commandment keeping as imparting salvation as they do. they are quick to quote Ps. 119:142, by emotionally driven shouting, of course, all the... more »

By old man joe - Nov 1 - 1 new of 1 message

Cursing Harold Camping for allegorical interpretations also curses Apostle Paul for using the same method Gal. 4:24

and since the Living God is the Author of His Word the Bible, the same is to curse God Himself. Camping is condemned by some as a false prophet for his conclusion that Judgement Day and the Rapture will fall on May 21, 2011. along with this condemnation he's accused of using an allegorical method to interpret the Scriptures which he uses to interpret the spiritual... more »

By old man joe - Oct 31 - 4 new of 4 messages

Four OT prophets saved as fetuses... salvation is un-conditional... no such thing as the good work of " accepting Jesus "...

the social gospel of co-redemption by the will of man is not only found heretical because of Jn. 1:12,13 and 3:3 but is also put in the grave by God who saved unto life eternal four OT prophets while they were yet fetuses. these are : Jacob, David, Jeremiah and John the Baptist. the co-redeemer's insist on a plan of salvation where man does something good towards God... more »

By old man joe - Oct 30 - 1 new of 1 message

2 Cor. 6:2... " Behold, now is the day of salvation, " refers to Messiah Jesus and is not a proof text establishing co-redemption...

" For He says, "In an acceptable time I heard you, and in a day of salvation, I helped you;" Behold, now is the accepted time. Behold, now is the day of salvation. " 2 Cor. 6:2 ****************************** ****************************** ****************************** ************ the Apostle Paul, quoting from Isa. 49:8 is referring to Messiah Jesus...... more »

By old man joe - Oct 29 - 1 new of 1 message

	If Christ died for everyone there would be no Atheists, everyone would be a Christian, but everyone is not... Eph. 2:12
	" That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world. " Eph. 2:12 KJV **************************** ************************** ************************** *********... more » By old man joe - Oct 28 - 2 new** of 2 messages