If there is no God, why then do Atheists get so enraged when someone post's the gospel ?
old man joe
we can never suppose for even a moment that out of the goodness of their hardened heart's
the Atheist's want to do the elect a favor and enlighten us to what ' facts' they offer to
prove to us there is no God. instead, the get enraged. such certainly bring's the
working's of Jn. 15:19 to bear on the believer.
why do they get so enraged if they as so sure there is no God ?
their emotionally driven outburst's of anger display that indeed, God has made Himself
evident to them, just as He says in Ro. 1:18,19. but they also know, contrary to the
signals they send out, that they are abandoned by the Living God just as we read in Eph.
2:12 and Ro. 1:24... " wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts... "
they need to vent their frustration over this so they somehow think that converting the
elect to Atheism by their shouting's is the real answer to their life's questions... as if
any among the elect want also to be abandoned by God... an impossibility since salvation
is " freely bestowed " on His chosen ones, ( Eph. 1: 3-13 v.6 ) and is irrevocable.
Ro. 11:29
amazingly, one Atheist posts his assumption that God is no more than a
" mental construct " in the minds of His called ones. then he goes about posting his
exegesis on certain verses as though darkness has fellowship with light. he did not
choose to expound the Holy Scriptures concerning how it came to be that the Living God
elected to salvation four particular men while they were yet fetuses.
the ' faith ' in the Living God in Christ this Atheist claims only stupid people have,
since it's nothing more than a " mental construct, " also then applies to these 4
fetuses... how it can be that these four fetuses mentally constructed a God in their
pre-mature minds the Atheists don't care to expound.
this also raises the question of why is it that Atheist's try so desperately to prove from
the Word of God that there is no God. that's tantamount to standing in front of a mirror
and arguing that the reflection isn't me.
and what is a professing Atheist doing with a Bible anyway ? a Bible in the house should
be the last thing a professing Atheist would ever want near him.
so you see, Atheists are more that Satan's con men.
Jude Alexander
arrogance and love of condemnation that believers exhibit. If you believed
the whole of the bible as inerrant, you would tread more lightly but you
don't and neither does the bulk of people who think of themselves as the one
and only "true Christians."
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Jude Alexander
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>I THINK it's because, at least for a lot of them, of the absolute religious
>arrogance and love of condemnation that believers exhibit. If you believed
>the whole of the bible as inerrant, you would tread more lightly but you
>don't and neither does the bulk of people who think of themselves as the
>one and only "true Christians."
I forgot to say something in the above. I will paste it with all I should
have said:
I THINK it's because, at least for a lot of them, of the absolute religious
arrogance and love of condemnation that believers exhibit. If you believed
the whole of the bible as inerrant, you would tread more lightly, EVEN
BELIEVING EXACTLY THE SAME ON ALL ISSUES, but you don't tread lightly and
with caution and neither does the bulk of people who think of themselves as
Andrew W
> we can never suppose for even a moment that out of the goodness of
> their hardened heart's the Atheist's want to do the elect a favor and
> enlighten us to what ' facts' they offer to prove to us there is no
> God. instead, the get enraged. such certainly bring's the working's
> of Jn. 15:19 to bear on the believer.
>
> why do they get so enraged if they as so sure there is no God ?
>
Its purely because of the silly things you say about God, e.g. he has
certain chosen ones or elite that he will save and no others.
And this happens because of your bad interpretations of the Bible. But don't
worry, you're not alone.
This is why the lay person should not try to interpret the scriptures. They
just make a mockery of it.
No wonder Christianity has so many discordant sects and denominations.
Interpretation is a very tricky process which should be left to scholars and
spiritual studiers.
You would have to spend much of your life studying ancient esoterisms and
spiritual principles before you could start to understand what the
scriptures were about, otherwise you just make an ass out of yourself and
mislead a bunch of people.
--
Christians after 2000 years are still vague and confused about precisely
what is required to get to heaven.
This goes to show that the religion is just a set of haphazard
interpretations and little more, and that
God is not really present in their religion any more.
pyotr filipivich
<removethi...@optushome.com.au> on or about Mon, 14 Dec 2009
11:30:58 +1100 did write/type or cause to appear in
alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>
>Christians after 2000 years are still vague and confused about precisely
>what is required to get to heaven.
Not really. Those of us in the Church know. Those who aren't get
confused about that as well.
>This goes to show that the religion is just a set of haphazard
>interpretations and little more, and that
>God is not really present in their religion any more.
I can say where God is, but I'd be foolish to say where God
wasn't. (Although some places/groups I would be very surprised to
find Him there.)
-
pyotr filipivich
Monotheism, someone has said, offers two simple axioms:
1) There is a God.
2) It's not you.
Andrew W
> Let the Record show that "Andrew W"
> <removethi...@optushome.com.au> on or about Mon, 14 Dec 2009
> 11:30:58 +1100 did write/type or cause to appear in
> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>
>> Christians after 2000 years are still vague and confused about
>> precisely what is required to get to heaven.
>
> Not really. Those of us in the Church know. Those who aren't get
> confused about that as well.
>
What makes you so sure the church itself knows?
The church *believes* things about God and heaven, but they are all taken
from bad interpretations and desires to increase and control their flock.
pyotr filipivich
alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> Let the Record show that "Andrew W"
>> <removethi...@optushome.com.au> on or about Mon, 14 Dec 2009
>> 11:30:58 +1100 did write/type or cause to appear in
>> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>>
>>> Christians after 2000 years are still vague and confused about
>>> precisely what is required to get to heaven.
>>
>> Not really. Those of us in the Church know. Those who aren't get
>> confused about that as well.
>What makes you so sure the church itself knows?
I believe that God has been pretty faithful in keeping His Church
at least on the right track most of the time. It is full of people,
so that sometimes causes problems. But He knows that.
>The church *believes* things about God and heaven, but they are all taken
>from bad interpretations and desires to increase and control their flock.
That might be your interpretation.
Andrew W
> Let the Record show that "Andrew W"
> <removethi...@optushome.com.au> on or about Mon, 14 Dec 2009
> 19:45:46 +1100 did write/type or cause to appear in
> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>> pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>> Let the Record show that "Andrew W"
>>> <removethi...@optushome.com.au> on or about Mon, 14 Dec 2009
>>> 11:30:58 +1100 did write/type or cause to appear in
>>> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>>>
>>>> Christians after 2000 years are still vague and confused about
>>>> precisely what is required to get to heaven.
>>>
>>> Not really. Those of us in the Church know. Those who aren't get
>>> confused about that as well.
>> What makes you so sure the church itself knows?
>
> I believe that God has been pretty faithful in keeping His Church
> at least on the right track most of the time. It is full of people,
> so that sometimes causes problems. But He knows that.
>
How do you know if you're in God's church or not?
What exactly is God's church?
The Catholic church believes that its God's church too.
Every religion believes that it is God's favourite.
>
>> The church *believes* things about God and heaven, but they are all
>> taken from bad interpretations and desires to increase and control
>> their flock.
>
> That might be your interpretation.
>>
Not just mine, scholars and researchers too.
pyotr filipivich
10:52:09 +1100 did write/type or cause to appear in
alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>
>>>> Not really. Those of us in the Church know. Those who aren't get
>>>> confused about that as well.
>>> What makes you so sure the church itself knows?
>>
>> I believe that God has been pretty faithful in keeping His Church
>> at least on the right track most of the time. It is full of people,
>> so that sometimes causes problems. But He knows that.
>>
>
>How do you know if you're in God's church or not?
>What exactly is God's church?
>The Catholic church believes that its God's church too.
>Every religion believes that it is God's favourite.
Well,if you want to be merely scholastic about the subject, then
no religion is true.
>
>>
>>> The church *believes* things about God and heaven, but they are all
>>> taken from bad interpretations and desires to increase and control
>>> their flock.
>>
>> That might be your interpretation.
>>>
>
>Not just mine, scholars and researchers too.
Which does not relieve them of the burden of working from their
presuppositions to the obvious conclusion.
That something gets used to manipulate people doesn't meant that
was the intention of the person who created that something in the
first place.