New Video: Defending the Faith - Alcoholics Anonymous
KenRagge
Mr. Snuffleupagus
An Subliminal AA rebuttal : Krazy Kennys Kultist Klowns Konspiracy
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhnOcXazZc
I find the motorcycle crash videos much more entertaining.
Rich
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhnOcXazZc
Kenny,
Is it the music you like?
Or do you support this video because you hate reality or is it faith
or both?
Or do you want to make a point that AA is too successful and continues
to be successful throughout the whole 18 year period you have been
criticizing AA?
Tell us why we all should move over to your way of thinking?
Why do we need your problems with life when we have enough of our own?
Why should we believe you as we know you have no relevant
qualifications to add credibility to your argument?
Why should we believe a person who makes a living in the gaming
industry?
Isn't gambling highly addictive and destructive?
Does that make you an outrageous hypocrite?
Why should we believe in your version of events?
Why shouldn't we think you have simply set up a nasty malicious social-
psychological discrediting routine?
Why don't you accept responsibility for your own actions?
Do you realize that your inept criticism of AA has simply enhanced it?
Do you realize that most people think that your work was a waste of
time?
Don't you think it's right in a land of free speech and access to
information that people should know that you wrote in ADDICT-L that AA
for the vast majority of attendees is actually harmless?
Could you prove your claims that AA is ineffective?
What method will you use to demonstrate your ability to understand
statistics and the inherent dynamics of AA?
What formula will you use to compensate for the constant ebb and flow
of attendance?
Why are you intolerant of other peoples views - say Duane of SOS, Ray
Smith etc.
Why are you an acolyte of Stanton Peele who is in on the payroll of
the drinks industry?
Didn't you know that cults exist within AA and that AA itself isn't
the problem?
Or if you are adamant that AA is a cult then what hijacks some
meetings?
No cards were dealt, no family member was harmed and suicidal thoughts
were not induced through gambling in writing this blog.
Hugs and kisses
Rich.
Mr. Snuffleupagus
I think this video describes KKK Kenny and being a complete failure in
life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6XiBREvyVc
Gordie
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhnOcXazZc
Good video. I found a lot of familiar teritory in the ground it
covered. Some of the other picks were good too.
Because of my years studying the cults and the ant-cult industry I also
saw familiar things that made my skin crawl.
Thanks Ken
Bob
Jezuz Christ, your "good video" claim earns you the rancid wafer of
the year award, plus a bottle of righteous red for efficacious
anesthetization of those pesky devils under your skin.
According to Ken's dogma according to Ragge,
http://www.morerevealed.com/library/mr/newmr_3.jsp
the following are from "original, universal sources of AA doctrine"
They're also, by divine coincidence, an easy rebuttal of Ken's
so called, 'New Video"
"In our belief any scheme of combating alcoholism which proposes to
shield the sick man from temptation is doomed to failure. If the
alcoholic tries to shield himself he may succeed for a time, but he
usually winds up with a bigger explosion than ever. We have tried
these methods. These attempts to do the impossible have always failed."
http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_101.htm
"Why sit with a long face in places where there is drinking, sighing
about the good old days. If it is a happy occasion, try to increase
the pleasure of those there; if a business occasion, go and attend to
your business enthusiastically. If you are with a person who wants to
eat in a bar, by all means go along. Let your friends know they are
not to change their habits on your account. At a proper time and
place explain to all your friends why alcohol disagrees with you. If
you do this thoroughly, few people will ask you to drink."
http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_102.htm
--
Bob
"I don't believe in evil, I believe in right and wrong, and very
often they are the same thing"-Paul Theroux, in Milroy the Magician.
Another Cultist Subliminal Message from AA: "Boo"
>
> I think this video describes KKK Kenny and being a complete failure in
> life.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6XiBREvyVc
Now. Now.
Is this is typical cultist behavior ... Attacking the anti-cultist
messager ... Instead ... we should be paying attention
to the poor dog in that video that was given the opportunity
to drink from the toilet. Help the dog !
Mr. Snuffleupagus
Dogs like toilet water because it is so tasty...
John K.
"Mr. Snuffleupagus" <advilpm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Thank you for sharing your experience. ;-)
John K.
KenRagge
Comment interspersed below.
Rich wrote:
> On Sep 28, 6:35 am, KenRagge <k...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhnOcXazZc
>>
>
> Kenny,
>
> Is it the music you like?
> Or do you support this video because you hate reality or is it faith
> or both?
>
Do you still molest children and beat your wife?
Seriously, do you understand that your question "answers itself" and in
doing that is not a question at all but an accusation?
What I hate is forced religious indoctrination, especially under the
auspices of the state. What I hate a program lying about being a
religious program in order to circumvent Constitutional protections and
to win new converts. What I hate is false claims about success.
> Or do you want to make a point that AA is too successful and continues
> to be successful throughout the whole 18 year period you have been
> criticizing AA?
>
Actually, during the years I have been critical of A.A., attendance has
dropped off in the U.S. and the number of "oldtimers" vs newcomers has
increased exponentially.
> Tell us why we all should move over to your way of thinking?
>
Do you mean move over to being honest? To not making false claims about
the success of "the Program"? To not making false, misleading claims
like "spiritual, not religious"?
Do you really need reasons why one should be honest?
> Why do we need your problems with life when we have enough of our own?
>
I've not asked anyone to assume my problems. What makes you say that?
I'm arguing against worsening and causing other people problems by
indoctrinating them to believe they are Powerless, insane and must turn
over their will and life.
> Why should we believe you as we know you have no relevant
> qualifications to add credibility to your argument?
>
There is no evidence that would be credible to you. Logical argument
has no effect on your religious beliefs. If you really cared about
logic, you would be able to present the relevant studies that show
12-Step indoctrination to be effective, which you have been asked for on
numerous occasions.
> Why should we believe a person who makes a living in the gaming
> industry?
>
Why not? You have not problem believing those who profit off of pushing
the 12-Steps on people, do you? The gaming industry has spread widely
through agreements with Gamblers Anonymous to train employees in
G.A./12-Step views of excessive gambling and to send anyone who has
concerns about gambling too much to Gamblers Anonymous.
The gaming industry and the 12-Step movement have become partners.
> Isn't gambling highly addictive and destructive?
>
It depends quite a bit on the type of gambling and what people are led
to believe about it. It used to be that when people had problems with
gambling for the most part they quit. That was back before there were
12-Step recruiters preaching "Powerlessness."
> Does that make you an outrageous hypocrite?
>
Nope.
> Why should we believe in your version of events?
>
Perhaps because, unlike the Big Book, they are documented.
> Why shouldn't we think you have simply set up a nasty malicious social-
> psychological discrediting routine?
>
You should think that. It keeps your house of cards from collapsing.
> Why don't you accept responsibility for your own actions?
>
That is really a very silly question coming from someone who behaves as
you do. Obviously you believe at some level that the Step groups are on
such shaky ground that they will collapse if exposed to criticism. Of
course, you are correct.
> Do you realize that your inept criticism of AA has simply enhanced it?
>
Lol! Then why aren't you praising me?
> Do you realize that most people think that your work was a waste of
> time?
>
Then what is your problem?
> Don't you think it's right in a land of free speech and access to
> information that people should know that you wrote in ADDICT-L that AA
> for the vast majority of attendees is actually harmless?
>
I'm interested in what context that was written. Do you have the url so
I can respond? It is okay to give the sources when you are accusing.
This is not a Step group meeting.
> Could you prove your claims that AA is ineffective?
>
I've given the available evidence. And I've used 12-Step sources. It is
you who are making the extraordinary claims of efficacy for faith
healing and ignoring the evidence.
> What method will you use to demonstrate your ability to understand
> statistics and the inherent dynamics of AA?
>
The only way I could "understand" in the context of your mindset of
desperate, blind faith is to agree with you in spite of what the
research shows.
> What formula will you use to compensate for the constant ebb and flow
> of attendance?
>
What are you talking about?
> Why are you intolerant of other peoples views - say Duane of SOS, Ray
> Smith etc.
>
None of use three (Duaine, Ray, myself) are 12-Step group members. As
such, we are "members of the debating society." Unlike 12-Step group
members, we are allowed the "luxury" of our own opinions. That is the
kind of thing that happens in a free speech, democratic environment.
> Why are you an acolyte of Stanton Peele who is in on the payroll of
> the drinks industry?
>
So Stanton Peele wrote one paper where he was paid, at least in part, by
the wine industry and he is "on the payroll of the drinks industry"?
That strikes me as rather trivial. What about the thousands of people
are literally on the payroll of the 12-Step treatment industry who
publish inaccurate information to the benefit of the Step groups?
> Didn't you know that cults exist within AA and that AA itself isn't
> the problem?
>
That is your fantasy, not mine. Any group that tells you, or even
implies that you will die if you leave is a dangerous group. Any group
that tells you you must turn over your will and life to God as defined
by the group elders is a dangerous group.
> Or if you are adamant that AA is a cult then what hijacks some
> meetings?
>
What are you talking about?
> No cards were dealt, no family member was harmed and suicidal thoughts
> were not induced through gambling in writing this blog.
>
No, but plenty of people have been harmed by being told they are
"Powerless" and can't change their own behavior, that God didn't give
them what they need to live their lives, to make the right decisions for
themselves.
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
> Hugs and kisses
>
> Rich.
>
KenRagge
You are more than welcome. There are a lot more videos listed at:
http://www.morerevealed.com/video/video.jsp
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
KenRagge
If you are trying to prove that there are disclaimers and contradictions
in everything A.A. publishes and is heard in meetings, you've made your
point. Only thing is, I think I should be the one making that point.
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
KenRagge
F.H.
> No, but plenty of people have been harmed by being told they are
> "Powerless" and can't change their own behavior,
That would be you Kenny. Powerless over your obsession and a giant pain
in the ass. Now, I'm gonna make a change in my behavior and
improve/create *my* reality by making KenRagge disappear.
P.S., did you know that the spellcheck on Thunderbird thinks KenRagge
should be "sandbagged?"
Empowered Frank
F.H.
> Gordie wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:35:52 -0700, KenRagge wrote:
>>
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhnOcXazZc
>>>
>>
>> Good video. I found a lot of familiar teritory in the ground it
>> covered. Some of the other picks were good too.
>> Because of my years studying the cults and the ant-cult industry I
>> also saw familiar things that made my skin crawl.
>>
>> Thanks Ken
>>
> Gordie,
>
> You are more than welcome.
Get a room.
Bob
Ragge, I easily revealed *your* contradiction.
Seems to me there's more denial in you than at an NA convention, but
I'm content to trust that you never work on a railroad; where Lord
only knows how you would mess with the points.
Tommy
"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> KenRagge wrote:
> Empowered Frank
Spot on Frank..
'S funny, but my Wikipedia comes up with Krazy Kenny Kult Klown
I think the K button is stuck :-)
But really though, don't disappear the poor bastard, we're his moment of
fame and you are a Kind Konsiderate Kookoe. shite the K is stuck again
Cheers
Tommy KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Mr. Snuffleupagus
> KenRagge wrote:
> > Bob wrote:
> >> Gordie wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:35:52 -0700, KenRagge wrote:
>
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhnOcXazZc
>
> >>> Good video. I found a lot of familiar teritory in the ground
> >>> it covered. Some of the other picks were good too. Because
> >>> of my years studying the cults and the ant-cult industry I
> >>> also saw familiar things that made my skin crawl.
>
> >>> Thanks Ken
>
> >> Jezuz Christ, your "good video" claim earns you the rancid wafer
> >> of the year award, plus a bottle of righteous red for
> >> efficacious anesthetization of those pesky devils under your
> >> skin.
>
> >> According to Ken's dogma according to Ragge,
Hola Bob and whoever else,
As you may know, most of Kenny's arguments are fallacious. Actually, I
would like to say all because I have never seen him present a logical
argument, but that's just my opinion.
Generally there are two reasons why someone, such as Kenny, who uses
fallacious arguments.
1. The person has made a honest error in logic.
2. The person has deliberately sidestepped logic in order to satisfy
his/her own ego.
The first reason can be handled with relative ease. Just point out
how the person reasoning is flawed and attempt to guide the person to
the correct line of thinking so they don't look silly.
When fallacies are used for the second reason, the person is typically
trying to inflate their own ego. Kenny is a perfect example. Dealing
with people, such as, Kenny can get tiring after awhile. Some of these
people, like Kenny, frequently display characteristics of neurotics
who have no clue of what sound reasoning actually is. Kenny doesn't
appear to use sound reasoning much, if ever. There's many examples of
Kenny doing this and I'm sure Kenny will provide more examples.
Mr. Snuffleupagus
Gordie
Thanks Ken,
I will have a look at them.
--
Gordie
"We have seen the TRUTH demonstrated again and again:
Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic."
(Alcoholics Anonymous - Chapter 3)
"Now we know that the time has come when that TIRED OLD LIE,
'Once an addict, always an addict', will no longer be tolerated
by either society or the addict himself. We do recover."
(N.A. Basic Text - Chapter 8)
Hmmm Which is it to be??
One statement MAY be the truth. If that were to be the case then
the other one would then be UNTRUE!! It is NOT POSSIBLE for
both to be true at the same time since they are opposing statements.
Bob
> On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:45:18 -0700, KenRagge wrote:
>
>> Gordie wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:35:52 -0700, KenRagge wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhnOcXazZc
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Good video. I found a lot of familiar teritory in the ground
>>> it covered. Some of the other picks were good too. Because
>>> of my years studying the cults and the ant-cult industry I
>>> also saw familiar things that made my skin crawl.
>>>
>>> Thanks Ken
>>>
>> Gordie,
>>
>> You are more than welcome. There are a lot more videos listed
>> at: http://www.morerevealed.com/video/video.jsp
>>
>> Ken Ragge http://www.morerevealed.com/
>
> Thanks Ken, I will have a look at them.
>
Go for it, wafer boy. If you find one relevant fact in all Ken's
bullshit, either come back and reveal it here, or go get a room with
Ragge :)
F.H.
> Gordie wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:45:18 -0700, KenRagge wrote:
>>
>>> Gordie wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:35:52 -0700, KenRagge wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhnOcXazZc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Good video. I found a lot of familiar teritory in the ground
>>>> it covered. Some of the other picks were good too. Because
>>>> of my years studying the cults and the ant-cult industry I
>>>> also saw familiar things that made my skin crawl.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Ken
>>>>
>>> Gordie,
>>>
>>> You are more than welcome. There are a lot more videos listed at:
>>> http://www.morerevealed.com/video/video.jsp
>>>
>>> Ken Ragge http://www.morerevealed.com/
>>
>> Thanks Ken, I will have a look at them.
>>
>
>
> Go for it, wafer boy. If you find one relevant fact in all Ken's
> bullshit, either come back and reveal it here, or go get a room with
> Ragge :)
Rich
Kenny,
You finally drag your web site towards the 21st Century, with links to
James G videos, but due to the fact he needs to finally get a job as
his trust fund runs out, they need to come off the site. Short but
sweet, ce la vie blamedenial closes; no date for its grand re-opening.
Oh well you win some and lose some eh Kenny?
Rich
KenRagge
It seems, you are getting tired of putting your foot in your mouth
attempting to attack me and seem to think that you are going to gain
some ground making up stories about James G.
I have no idea why the site is temporarily closed but I do know it is
not closed for the lack of a few dollars a month to pay for it. He has
had offers of free server space, so if that was the problem, his site
would still be on line.
Really, do you think you are actually helping the Step groups by making
up lies about people? Is this an example of the purported "honesty" one
learns from being a 12-Step group member? If so, it is as shining
example of honesty as some of the examples of "spirituality" I've seen
from group members here.
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
Rich
>
> - Show quoted text -
Kenny,
I am not a member of any step group and furthermore I know far more
than is necessary about the blamedenial web site and the owner. Why
would a UK resident be using dollars? You obviously don't know his
background. Similarly your lack of contemporary knowledge on IT
matters shines out - do you think he has been offered free web space
on merit? Its offered to thousands and thousands of people - it's part
of business practice. Web space can cost as little as $5 a month for
many gigabytes of space - you are such a tit! LOL.
For somebody who hates AA and its members why do you constantly refer
to it in your ramblings?
In fact Kenny your reply has been a fucking disaster from start to
finish - start to get things right in future. Actually you are so easy
to mock it's becoming boring - would you like me to stop?
Have a nice life.
Rich
KenRagge
As far as being offered free web space on merit, I know for a fact he
has been offered it because I offered it myself.
You said,
"due to the fact he needs to finally get a job as his trust fund runs
out, they need to come off the site."
So it seems money isn't an issue, but perhaps members of the 12-Step
religion have threatened him in order to silence him. It would be far
from the first time that the Step groups have used their muscle to
silence criticism. That sort of thing dates back at least decades, to
when A.A. quietly threatened boycott and prevented "Mr. and Mrs.
Alcoholic," a film criticizing the Step groups, from ever being shown.
If James had to close his site because of fear of not being able to work
because of threats from members of the Step religion, it is just one
more excellent example of just how dangerous the 12-Step groups are to a
free, democratic society.
And you are boasting about it.
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
Tommy
What do you think of Quad A Krazy Keenikins - they must be all members
of a Heathen Kult, the cheek of them
Yer a laugh a minute. Don Q in the face of the terrible tyrants of
sobriety ehh. Bawaaahaaaha it must be a real thorn in your cheap
litttle gut that there are so many million sober members of AA
worldwide, with so many millions more families that have peace and trust
back in their lives. Cheerrist almighty man, what kind of a spiteful
bastard would wish evil on innocent women and children.
Ahh well I don't know why I bother. A delusional dickhead dabbling in a
nondescript newsgroup has about as much credibility as that other loon
Mad Ted . Tell me you aren't really him please hahahahahahahha hahaha
Cheers
Tommy
> Ken Ragge
> http://www.morerevealed.com/
KenRagge
Tommy,
It seems you guys snipped what I wrote. Wouldn't it make sense, if you
are going to call me a liar, to leave what I wrote to show everyone? Lol!
Of course, what I wrote was true. It seems you are the one who is
lying. What I wrote is repeated below for all to see.
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As far as being offered free web space on merit, I know for a fact he
has been offered it because I offered it myself.
You said,
"due to the fact he needs to finally get a job as his trust fund runs
out, they need to come off the site."
So it seems money isn't an issue, but perhaps members of the 12-Step
religion have threatened him in order to silence him. It would be far
from the first time that the Step groups have used their muscle to
silence criticism. That sort of thing dates back at least decades, to
when A.A. quietly threatened boycott and prevented "Mr. and Mrs.
Alcoholic," a film criticizing the Step groups, from ever being shown.
If James had to close his site because of fear of not being able to work
because of threats from members of the Step religion, it is just one
more excellent example of just how dangerous the 12-Step groups are to a
free, democratic society.
And you are boasting about it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
It seems there is no shortage of people prepared to lie and deceive to
protect the Step groups, groups that profess to being so terribly
"spiritual" and "honest", from criticism.
Recovery? Spirituality? What an example of the Program you are.
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
>
>
>
>> Ken Ragge
>> http://www.morerevealed.com/
>
>
Tommy
"KenRagge" <k...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Tommy wrote:
>> KenRagge wrote:
>>> Rich wrote:
>>>> On Oct 3, 7:17 pm, KenRagge <k...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rich wrote:
>>> And you are boasting about it.
>> Snipped a load of KKK Kenny's lies ........as usual
>>
>> What do you think of Quad A Krazy Keenikins - they must be all
>> members of a Heathen Kult, the cheek of them
>>
>> Tommy
>
> Tommy,
>
> It seems you guys snipped what I wrote. Wouldn't it make sense, if
> you are going to call me a liar, to leave what I wrote to show
> everyone? Lol!
> Of course, what I wrote was true. It seems you are the one who is
> lying. What I wrote is repeated below for all to see.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
So what do you think of QuadA - Krazy Atheist Kults Konspirators haha
KKKEnny
And I find it takes a few minutes to snip posts - I always remember when
I was on a very slow dialup - But this argument about snipping gets to
me - see, the people in the thread know what is being discussed [ those
that are mildly interested use. threaded newsreaders and are following
the thread} [ those that have just logged on in the middle of a thread,
are propably not ready for usenet yet and should stick to google}, Some
guys around here use this complaint a lot - usually tricksters and sales
people who have training (sic) behind them. The principle being to
'make the opposition (buyer) defend himself against a false allegation,
thereby making the seller look honest and the other person a culprit.
Prosecutors use it a lot. Likewise claiming redherrings and strawmen,
well that would be your field(s) would#t it.
I deal with substitutions (lies, mistruths) every day of the week. not
necessarily deliberate lies - just a selective representation of the
facts as that persons conscience dictates -(selective memory
impairment), For what reason I don't know, 0 but why would and honest
preson fly against all that is decent in this present world of
heartbreak and pain of alcoholism and drug addiction, by trying to piss
on the peace and comfort of the millions of families, {anrcdotally there
are 40 family members impacted by death, cancer, mental illness,
stillborn births, and alcoholism/addiction - which doesnt take into
account workmates, friends, teachers, public service employees who have
to dal with addicts/alcoholics and the impact of their families pain.)
That is where your denial is causing you, whether deliberate or not, to
misrepresent facts, conjure Krazy hypotheses out of your own
imagination. Why?? well paper never refused ink.
Check out
Egomania
and try
Egosyntonic
Hmm very apt and interesting.. My services unlike yours are
ltruistic - hth
KenRagge
Lol!
Do you mean you flat out lied and said "Snipped a load of KKK Kenny's
lies . . . . ." that you were lying for an altruistic reason? Is that
like "lying for Jesus" and the "Divine Deceit" the Moonies use?
Do you lie for the same reason the Scienos and Moonies lie, so that
others can enjoy the wonders of their perfect programs?
How pathetic.
And you can save your proselytizing for someone else.
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/
Tommy
> Tommy wrote:
>> Hmm very apt and interesting.. My services unlike yours are
>> ltruistic - hth
> Do you only snip what I say when writing about what I say to save
> paper? Lol!
Disingenous = Lying again KKK K ehh.
> Do you mean you flat out lied and said "Snipped a load of KKK Kenny's
> lies . . . . ." that you were lying for an altruistic reason? Is that
> like "lying for Jesus" and the "Divine Deceit" the Moonies use?
>
> Do you lie for the same reason the Scienos and Moonies lie, so that
> others can enjoy the wonders of their perfect programs?
> How pathetic.
> And you can save your proselytizing for someone else.
> Ken Ragge
And your lies are because ???
Lookit Krazykins, I've tried to point out to you that I for one am not
willing to believe that you would promote an increase in the pain and
misery of probably a hundred million of your very own mothes, sons and
daughters, family and friends of the estimated 2 million
adddicts/alcoholics that attend meetings - which is not counting the
hundreds of millions that benefitted form Attending meetings since AA
and NAs inception...
Inferring that I am associated with Moonies and 'Scienos' confirms your
lies outright.
So can I add Kennys Krazy Konspiracy Kult for Liars
Heh now if I could come up with a J,, anyone got a J fo rme,, I could
have the JKLS the jekkels (Jekyls do you get it>>
Got it J KKKKK L haha haha Just Kenys Krazy Konspiracy Kult for Liars
Cheers
Tommy
F.H.
> KenRagge wrote:
>> Tommy wrote:
>>> Hmm very apt and interesting.. My services unlike yours are
>>> ltruistic - hth
>> Do you only snip what I say when writing about what I say to save
>> paper? Lol!
>
> Disingenous = Lying again KKK K ehh.
KKK....Ken...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZAC2WuEaCc&NR=1
KKK....Ken..., isn't lying he just KKK,,,,Kan't..., KKK..., Kough it up.