Gay Marriage Protesters Take Over Paris Cathedral
Natalie Clifford Barney
(Paris) About two dozen protestors scuffled with priests and security
guards at Notre Dame Cathedral Sunday. As stunned worshipers looked on
the protestors marched down the aisle to the alter where one, dressed
like a priest, performed a mock marriage ceremony for a lesbian couple.
As priests and security guards tried to hustle group out of the nave,
one priest was knocked to the ground. The demonstrators chanted "Pope
Benedict XVI, homophobe, AIDS accomplice."
Monsignor Patrick Jacquin, who received a minor injury, called the
protest an outrage.
Most of the protestors were from the group Act Up Paris. A spokesperson
for the group said the demonstration was timed to coincide with the
first year anniversary of France's first same-sex marriage.
Earlier the demonstrators marched in front of Paris City Hall.
Last June 5, Bertrand Charpentier and Stephane Chapin were married by
the mayor of Begles in southern France. (story)
A prosecutor went to court to have the marriage annulled, (story) and
the mayor, Noel Mamere, was removed from office for a month as
punishment. (story)
Charpentier and Chapin have vowed to fight for same-sex marriage in the
European Court of Human Rights. Although the French government has
resisted attempts from both the Green Party and the Socialists to
legalize same-sex marriage, France does allow civil unions with limited
rights for gay and lesbian couples.
©365Gay.com 2005
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Serendipity: I have issues with anyone who treats God like a burden
instead of a blessing like some Catholics. You people don't celebrate
your faith . . . you mourn it.
Bard Kesnit
<SalonH...@20RueJacob.fr> wrote:
>Go Team!!!!
Do I need to buy you a cheerleader outfit now? <g>
>(Paris) About two dozen protestors scuffled with priests and security
>guards at Notre Dame Cathedral Sunday. As stunned worshipers looked on
>the protestors marched down the aisle to the alter where one, dressed
>like a priest, performed a mock marriage ceremony for a lesbian couple.
COOL!
>As priests and security guards tried to hustle group out of the nave,
>one priest was knocked to the ground. The demonstrators chanted "Pope
>Benedict XVI, homophobe, AIDS accomplice."
<chuckle>
>Monsignor Patrick Jacquin, who received a minor injury, called the
>protest an outrage.
The term "whaaaaa" comes to mind...
>Most of the protestors were from the group Act Up Paris. A spokesperson
>for the group said the demonstration was timed to coincide with the
>first year anniversary of France's first same-sex marriage.
>
>Earlier the demonstrators marched in front of Paris City Hall.
>
>Last June 5, Bertrand Charpentier and Stephane Chapin were married by
>the mayor of Begles in southern France. (story)
>
>A prosecutor went to court to have the marriage annulled, (story) and
>the mayor, Noel Mamere, was removed from office for a month as
>punishment. (story)
>
>Charpentier and Chapin have vowed to fight for same-sex marriage in the
>European Court of Human Rights. Although the French government has
>resisted attempts from both the Green Party and the Socialists to
>legalize same-sex marriage, France does allow civil unions with limited
>rights for gay and lesbian couples.
>
>©365Gay.com 2005
Sorry for not snipping, but I wanted to see the article go
across again.
Bard Kesnit
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"Nothing short of a lifebond could make me hurt like this."
Dominic, The Grand Inquisitor
>(Paris) About two dozen protestors scuffled with priests and security
>guards at Notre Dame Cathedral Sunday.
>protest an outrage.
+ Go Team?
+ You sick lesbo.
+ When I say : Go Wyoming Team when they hung the fag on the fence,
you were overcome with frustration and grief. But....
+ You stinking hypocrtite...... you say : Go team when your fag buds
beat up a priest.
Dominic, The Grand Inquisitor
>, Natalie Clifford Barney
>>Go Team!!!!
>
> Do I need to buy you a cheerleader outfit now? <g>
+ Lesbo's at their best!
Newk Indofman
"Dominic, The Grand Inquisitor" <I.cause....@you.net> wrote in message
news:tjpea15i8plddpcti...@4ax.com...
And when a child is raped by the same priest, you say, "too bad, GO TEAM!".
Natalie Clifford Barney
Was anyone tortured to death at Notre Dame?
NO!
Was anyone tortured to death mercilessly in Woyming?
Yes,
If you cannot tell the difference between a protest and a murder(and one
pictures the whiney priest moaning about a minor bump) then you are a
serious dullard and imbecile and loathesome moron.
We ought to compare pics of your "beaten up"(minorly) priest and Shepard.
Natalie Clifford Barney
"Dominic, The Grand Inquisitor" wrote:
No, Bard plays rugby...and eats her dead like all ruggers...
JimR
"Natalie Clifford Barney" <SalonH...@20RueJacob.fr> wrote in message
news:42A77FA9...@20RueJacob.fr...
> If you cannot tell the difference between a protest and a murder(and one
> pictures the whiney priest moaning about a minor bump) then you are a
> serious dullard and imbecile and loathesome moron.
>
They are mutually exclusive events. The one does not justify the other.
Much as I may disagree with the teachings of the Church, I cannot condone
anyone interfering in their religious services, under the guise of a
protest.
Anywaym the best form of protest is to walk away from it all.
Natalie Clifford Barney
JimR wrote:
I appreciate your position, James, but conversely realize that Roman
Catholicism, in many places on earth, is writing or trying to write their
beliefs into policy and law.
AIDS efforst in africa are hampered by the church's attitude on condoms.
Stem Cell research is now led by Korea of all places, since Catholicism and
other conservative paths leveraged it out of america.
In that sense, "taking the battle to them" is understandable.
Newk Indofman
"JimR" <nob...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:ytZpe.10573$nk4.6711@trndny01...
No, it isn't. If everyone followed that advice, America would still be a
British colony, blacks would still be riding on the back of the bus, and
women would still be relegated to home-making.
Among other things, kids die as a result of RCC teachings on homosexuality.
So let's get our priorities straight.
"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are
evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
Albert Einstein 1879-1955
JimR
"Natalie Clifford Barney" <SalonH...@20RueJacob.fr> wrote in message
>
>
> JimR wrote:
>
>> "Natalie Clifford Barney" <SalonH...@20RueJacob.fr> wrote in message
>> news:42A77FA9...@20RueJacob.fr...
>>
>> > If you cannot tell the difference between a protest and a murder(and
>> > one
>> > pictures the whiney priest moaning about a minor bump) then you are a
>> > serious dullard and imbecile and loathesome moron.
>> >
>>
>> They are mutually exclusive events. The one does not justify the other.
>> Much as I may disagree with the teachings of the Church, I cannot condone
>> anyone interfering in their religious services, under the guise of a
>> protest.
>>
>> Anywaym the best form of protest is to walk away from it all.
>
> I appreciate your position, James, but conversely realize that Roman
> Catholicism, in many places on earth, is writing or trying to write their
> beliefs into policy and law.
>
> AIDS efforst in africa are hampered by the church's attitude on condoms.
>
> Stem Cell research is now led by Korea of all places, since Catholicism
> and
> other conservative paths leveraged it out of america.
>
> In that sense, "taking the battle to them" is understandable.
>
>
To me, it is a classic example of two wrongs not making a right. If the
Church is meddling in politics there are better ways of dealing with it.
France seems to have found a way to keep religion at bay when it comes to
determining government policy.
Mass protests in fron of the bishop's mansion (it is ALWAYS a mansion, isn't
it?) would be more effective than in disturbing people from worshipping.
All that accomplishes is to make enemies. Besides, people have the right to
believe, and worship, as they see fit. The folks in the pews should not be
the ones to bear the brunt of protests.
JimR
"Newk Indofman" <nk...@newkindofman.org> wrote in message
news:DLZpe.16932$h86....@tornado.socal.rr.com...
I am not opposed to taking steps to keep religious institutions from setting
public policy, I am merely against disturbing peoples' right to worship
without interference.
Besides, the Church has capitalized on these sorts of things, characterizing
them as anti-Catholic sentiment. And they use it to shift the focus away
from themselves and onto the protesters instead.
There are more effective ways to rein in religious leaders.
Newk Indofman
Again, it's a matter of priorities, and you seem to set the rights of others
to believe destructive things overr the lives of children. And the "War On
Terror" is meant to disturb and interfere with fundamentalist Muslims'
"right" to practice their religion.
>
> Besides, the Church has capitalized on these sorts of things,
> characterizing them as anti-Catholic sentiment. And they use it to shift
> the focus away from themselves and onto the protesters instead.
That's pretty hard for the Church to do when to the general public they
represent a veritable culture of pedophilia and lies. "Anti-Catholic
sentiment"? It makes complete sense.
Natalie Clifford Barney
JimR wrote:
Agreed...
I do not approve of the more "dramatic" disruptions, but protesting outside the
outer gate of the Archbishop of Paris is unlikely to get even his attention in
his "Palais"(not a mansion, something considerably better) nearly a km. away
though it will get the police to tear gas you. "Securite" don't you know......
JimR
"Natalie Clifford Barney" <SalonH...@20RueJacob.fr> wrote in message
I thought that the French were not in bed with the Church ?
Natalie Clifford Barney
JimR wrote:
They aren't. but the french hate public protests of any kind except american
things like mcdonalds were one to open in Montmarte