Evolution : the suspension of one's belief in reality...
old man joe
it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and conclude it's there by
chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an intelligent person
but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties cease.
all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these Atheist's say the
" building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what building block's ? they
won't say. and they won't say simply because they show themselves as avoiding the only
answer there is... which God made known to everyone... " since the creation of the world
His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen,
being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. " Ro. 1:20
the wonder of Creation is one of the ways by which God makes Himself known...
" that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. "
Ro. 1:19
.
the " they " of Romans 1:20 are " men who suppress the truth. "
the passage goes on to say that these who suppress the truth do so
" in unrighteousness, " which means they are reprobate, non elect; Atheists...
left alone in this world without God by God's choice ( Jn. 17:9 ) ...those whom God sees
fit to " harden. " Ro. 9:18
left up to themselves by God Himself it's natural for these to think ' natural, ' which
is to say, they might as well show themselves as Atheists since these are passed by
( Eph. 2:12 ) for that saving grace which God delights in gifting those miserable sinner's
He's chosen in and of Himself to be the objects of His mercy. Ro. 9:18.
amazingly enough, an Evolutionist / Atheist ( the two are inseparable ) would never,
repeat, never agree to go to a surgeon for a cardiac bypass who has the same understanding
of surgery the Evolutionist has of Creation.
Ken
Free Lunch
in alt.talk.creationism:
Joe, you old liar, you. Who taught you this nonsense? Do you really
think you can get away with these lies just because you think that you
are a believer? Do you think that God demands that you lie to us? Show
us where God told you to lie. Show us where He told you to ignore
science. Show us where your nonsense was given by God.
You are a shameless fool, a liar who mocks the universe. You claim that
God created the universe, but you mock it. Why?
--
Here is what Jesus said would happen to those who are intentionally
ignorant:
"Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten
talents. For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an
abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from
him. And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where
there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Sla#s
"old man joe" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a4naf5dh64a5arfne...@4ax.com...
>
> it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and
> conclude it's there by
> chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an
> intelligent person
Are you seriously trying to say this wonderful 'god' of yours created this
whole universe yet humans can only survive in <0.0000000000001% of it? The
rest of it would kill us in seconds.
.
Not much of a 'creator' was he! Either that or he didn't like his creation
much...
Slatts
duke
>
>"old man joe" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:a4naf5dh64a5arfne...@4ax.com...
>>
>> it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and
>> conclude it's there by
>> chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an
>> intelligent person
>> but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties cease.<SNIP>
>Are you seriously trying to say this wonderful 'god' of yours created this
>whole universe
Yep, as an infinitely small point of mass of infinite density appearing into
nothingness.
For the knowledge-challenged, the universe is expanding and has been for the
last 13.7 billion years. And science says that.
> yet humans can only survive in <0.0000000000001% of it? The
>rest of it would kill us in seconds.
We don't know who else is out there.
>Not much of a 'creator' was he! Either that or he didn't like his creation
>much...
Or you don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Sla#s
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:bjfdf5hv16erhcaqf...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:31:01 -0000, "Sla#s" <ph...@slatts.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"old man joe" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:a4naf5dh64a5arfne...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and
>>> conclude it's there by
>>> chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an
>>> intelligent person
>>> but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties
>>> cease.<SNIP>
>
>>Are you seriously trying to say this wonderful 'god' of yours created this
>>whole universe
>
> Yep, as an infinitely small point of mass of infinite density appearing
> into
> nothingness.
>
> For the knowledge-challenged, the universe is expanding and has been for
> the
> last 13.7 billion years. And science says that.
Funny how you'll believe in scientific evidence when it suites you, yet
ignor it when it doesn't!
>> yet humans can only survive in <0.0000000000001% of it? The
>>rest of it would kill us in seconds.
>
> We don't know who else is out there.
>
>>Not much of a 'creator' was he! Either that or he didn't like his creation
>>much...
>
> Or you don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about.
But at least I'm willing to learn something new and change my mind in the
light of new evidence.
Would you change your beliefs if new evidence showed that Christianity as
based on a myth?
Slatts
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:bjfdf5hv16erhcaqf...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:31:01 -0000, "Sla#s" <ph...@slatts.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"old man joe" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:a4naf5dh64a5arfne...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> it doesn't take a scientist to look up into a clear night sky and
>>>> conclude it's there by
>>>> chance, no, it takes an Atheist; someone who could otherwise be an
>>>> intelligent person
>>>> but when it comes to what God did they're reasoning faculties
>>>> cease.<SNIP>
>>
>>>Are you seriously trying to say this wonderful 'god' of yours created this
>>>whole universe
>>
>> Yep, as an infinitely small point of mass of infinite density appearing
>> into
>> nothingness.
>>
>> For the knowledge-challenged, the universe is expanding and has been for
>> the
>> last 13.7 billion years. And science says that.
>
>Funny how you'll believe in scientific evidence when it suites you, yet
>ignor it when it doesn't!
Firstly, sometimes I say science, and sometimes I say physicists.
Secondly, I have NEVER said otherwise. You're just not bright enough to
understand.
>>> yet humans can only survive in <0.0000000000001% of it? The
>>>rest of it would kill us in seconds.
>> We don't know who else is out there.
>>
>>>Not much of a 'creator' was he! Either that or he didn't like his creation
>>>much...
>> Or you don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about.
>But at least I'm willing to learn something new and change my mind in the
>light of new evidence.
Ok, then give me your evidence for life out there, or if you like, lack of
evidence for life out there - your choice.
As I, the more intelligent one, said - we don't know right now.
>Would you change your beliefs if new evidence showed that Christianity as
>based on a myth?
No such evidence. In fact, every bit of evidence to be found disproves your
assumption.
Toodles, woopie.
Father Haskell
> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these Atheist's say the
> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what building block's ? they
> won't say.
Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
duke
And where to molecules come from?
Dan Listermann
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 7, 6:41 am, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these
>>> Atheist's say the
>>> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what building
>>> block's ? they
>>> won't say.
>>
>>Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
>
> And where to molecules come from?
>
duke
That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
Dan Listermann
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:31 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:8rtvf59ja2uk1th7l...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>>> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 7, 6:41 am, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these
>>>>> Atheist's say the
>>>>> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what
>>>>> building
>>>>> block's ? they
>>>>> won't say.
>>>>
>>>>Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
>>>
>>> And where to molecules come from?
>>>
>>And where do deities come from?
>
> That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
LOL! Given up admitting that you have no answer to that question?
Mitchell Holman
news:8e521$4b0148b9$4a53bf9f$97...@FUSE.NET:
Duke only demands proof, he never provides it.
mani deli
>>And where do deities come from?
>
>That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
Great answer Duke.
>The Dukester, American-American
Dumber than Sara Palin!
Father Haskell
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>
> >On Nov 7, 6:41 am, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these Atheist's say the
> >> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what building block's ? they
> >> won't say.
>
> >Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
>
> And where to molecules come from?
Chemicals.
Dan Listermann
"Father Haskell" <father...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fed5b2f1-1f5a-4cb1...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
"Chemicals."
Not the toe jamb of the Great Spirit?
Father Haskell
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:31 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>
> >news:8rtvf59ja2uk1th7l...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
> >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Nov 7, 6:41 am, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these
> >>>> Atheist's say the
> >>>> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what building
> >>>> block's ? they
> >>>> won't say.
>
> >>>Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
>
> >> And where to molecules come from?
>
> >And where do deities come from?
>
> That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
Evasion noted.
Cory Albrecht
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:31 -0500, "Dan Listermann"<d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "duke"<duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:8rtvf59ja2uk1th7l...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>>> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 7, 6:41 am, old man joe<ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these
>>>>> Atheist's say the
>>>>> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what building
>>>>> block's ? they
>>>>> won't say.
>>>>
>>>> Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
>>>
>>> And where to molecules come from?
>>>
>> And where do deities come from?
>
> That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
Evasion noted.
duke
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:v8h2g5p9r6igkgoqq...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:31 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:8rtvf59ja2uk1th7l...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>>>> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Nov 7, 6:41 am, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these
>>>>>> Atheist's say the
>>>>>> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what
>>>>>> building
>>>>>> block's ? they
>>>>>> won't say.
>>>>>
>>>>>Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
>>>>
>>>> And where to molecules come from?
>>>>
>>>And where do deities come from?
>>
>> That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
>
>LOL! Given up admitting that you have no answer to that question?
Surprise, o'ignorant one - I said long ago I have no idea where God came from.
YOU............have no idea where YOU come from.
duke
Especially when no man will ever know the answer.
duke
>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:27:40 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>>And where do deities come from?
>>
>>That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
>
>Great answer Duke.
Thank you.
>Dumber than Sara Palin!
Sarah for President.
duke
Put it back in your pants.
duke
duke
And where do chemicals come from?
duke
Not only are you ignorant of God, you are totally ignorant of the chemical
elements.
Here, dumb loser, go here for a little knowledge of the periodic table.
http://www.chemicalelements.com/show/name.html
Dan Listermann
right?
Dan Listermann
being exists between what we do know and what we don't, but you can't offer
any evidence of its existence beyond assuming that it caused the Big Bang.
Then you refuse to see that, throughout history, man have made up names for
this supposed being and yours is just another in a long line. Yours is
somehow "special" but you can't say why except to insist it is so.
Dan Listermann
harry k
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:42:51 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>
> >news:v8h2g5p9r6igkgoqq...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:31 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>news:8rtvf59ja2uk1th7l...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
> >>>> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Nov 7, 6:41 am, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these
> >>>>>> Atheist's say the
> >>>>>> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what
> >>>>>> building
> >>>>>> block's ? they
> >>>>>> won't say.
>
> >>>>>Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
>
> >>>> And where to molecules come from?
>
> >>>And where do deities come from?
>
> >> That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
>
> >LOL! Given up admitting that you have no answer to that question?
>
> Surprise, o'ignorant one - I said long ago I have no idea where God came from.
>
> YOU............have no idea where YOU come from.
>
> The Dukester, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
>
> - Show quoted text -
The difference between your "don't know" and our "don't know" is we
are studying the problem and narrowing on the solution. You just wave
your hand and say goddidit and drop any curiousity.
Your method has shown a remarkable 100 percent failure rate on solving
any question for...umm...2,000 years? Correction, since man first
became sentient and started making up gods (note the plural there) oh
stupid one.
Harry K
The Chief Instigator
You, of all people, never will know.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Chicago 2, Houston 1 (November 15)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, November 18 vs. Peoria, 7:05
duke
And especially you, west loop.
duke
wrote:
>On Nov 17, 4:23�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:42:51 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >news:v8h2g5p9r6igkgoqq...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:31 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>>"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:8rtvf59ja2uk1th7l...@4ax.com...
>> >>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>> >>>> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>On Nov 7, 6:41 am, old man joe <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>> all the elements that don't produce life are out there yet these
>> >>>>>> Atheist's say the
>> >>>>>> " building block's of life came to earth on a comet. "... what
>> >>>>>> building
>> >>>>>> block's ? they
>> >>>>>> won't say.
>>
>> >>>>>Living organisms are built from molecules, not elements.
>>
>> >>>> And where to molecules come from?
>>
>> >>>And where do deities come from?
>>
>> >> That information is too deep for your shallow mind.
>>
>> >LOL! �Given up admitting that you have no answer to that question?
>>
>> Surprise, o'ignorant one - I said long ago I have no idea where God came from.
>>
>> YOU............have no idea where YOU come from.
>The difference between your "don't know" and our "don't know" is we
>are studying the problem and narrowing on the solution. You just wave
>your hand and say goddidit and drop any curiousity.
I already know where babies come from, little fellow.
>Your method has shown a remarkable 100 percent failure rate on solving
>any question for...umm...2,000 years? Correction, since man first
>became sentient and started making up gods (note the plural there) oh
>stupid one.
So tell me how many gods have walked the face of the earth.
duke
And now you know what you didn't know before.
Dan Listermann
superstitious beliefs that claim the contrary.
Dan Listermann
No, I know you resort to insult when you run out of weasel room.
harry k
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:38:10 -0800 (PST), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
I assume that is theoretical knowledge. I doubt you have ever been
able to find a partner.
> >Your method has shown a remarkable 100 percent failure rate on solving
> >any question for...umm...2,000 years? Correction, since man first
> >became sentient and started making up gods (note the plural there) oh
> >stupid one.
>
> So tell me how many gods have walked the face of the earth.
>
>
You mean _real_ ones that actually existed? Zero.
Ones that people made up? Innumerable.
Harry K
The Chief Instigator
Your senility is all you have left...I knew better than your bullshit when I
was in my seventh year.
duke
But that's where you stayed.
duke
I have historical evidence of my God walking the face of the earth.
duke
wrote:
>On Nov 18, 5:11�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
Tsk, tsk. Why not try to stick with what you know.
>> >Your method has shown a remarkable 100 percent failure rate on solving
>> >any question for...umm...2,000 years? Correction, since man first
>> >became sentient and started making up gods (note the plural there) oh
>> >stupid one.
>> So tell me how many gods have walked the face of the earth.
>You mean _real_ ones that actually existed? Zero.
Oh, mine did. Died on the cross, rose 3 days later, ascended 40 days later to
the Father, evidence of same so strong that world count is up to 2.2 billion
people alive and well today, and growing.
duke
If you could hang with me in discussion, I'd agree.
The Chief Instigator
You've had far too much sacramental wine, Drunken Duke.
Dan Listermann
you to believe otherwise, nobody.
Dan Listermann
the word "evidence" is a stretch. It is far more like "legend" than
"evidence." Still you can go on buying it till the cows come home, just
stay away from me and mine.
Dan Listermann
duke
Running out of intelligence to demonstrate, west loop?
duke
>>>> So tell me how many gods have walked the face of the earth.
>>>Well since nobody can provide evidence of any, zero despite the various
>>>superstitious beliefs that claim the contrary.
>> I have historical evidence of my God walking the face of the earth.
>If that is what you want to believe, so be it. Nobody has a right to force
>you to believe otherwise, nobody.
Ok, more pure listerman nothingness. When you grow up, learn to discuss.
duke
We're not forcing our views on you; you are forcing your views on us.
duke
It doesn't matter. You have nothing of value to add to a public discussion. To
do so, one has to actually add something of value, and that's beyond your
abilities. Don't blame me for your demonstrated inadequacies.
Dan Listermann
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:02:31 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> So tell me how many gods have walked the face of the earth.
>
>>>>Well since nobody can provide evidence of any, zero despite the various
>>>>superstitious beliefs that claim the contrary.
>
>>> I have historical evidence of my God walking the face of the earth.
>
>>If that is what you want to believe, so be it. Nobody has a right to
>>force
>>you to believe otherwise, nobody.
>
> Ok, more pure listerman nothingness. When you grow up, learn to discuss.
LOL! Thanks!
Dan Listermann
Paranoia - highly useful among theists.
Dan Listermann
Wait, you are just . . .so . . . lacking.
The Chief Instigator
You did that a decade or five ago, Drip.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 1, Peoria 0 (November 18)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 20 vs. Milwaukee, 7:35
duke
Then why do I maintain my status as your intellectual master?
WangoTango
@cox.net says...
> >
> >You did that a decade or five ago, Drip.
>
> Then why do I maintain my status as your intellectual master?
Because you are delusional?
The Chief Instigator
You don't, Delusional Weber. Get treated for your malignant tumor that's
feeding your ego.
Tak A#344
> And where do chemicals come from?
>
> The Dukester, American-American
And where does your god come from?
Tak a#344
duke
<notarea...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
>duke wrote:
>
>> And where do chemicals come from?
> And where does your god come from?
I don't have such information.
Budikka666
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >duke wrote:
>
> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> > And where does your god come from?
>
> I don't have such information.
And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his. Meanwhile, all
available evidence shows that everything, from the universe to life
itself arose without any need for divine input.
I'm sure Duke will provide objective or scientific evidence if he
wishes to disagree. Yeah right! Keep running Dopey Duke. Here's
where you FLED when I challenged you directly - at least once a month
for the last five months and seven times in November:
July 12th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/lldf56
August 16th,2009: http://tinyurl.com/kjjmn4
September 10th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/oasqn8
October 3rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybvtw53
November 9th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yjlmbrf
November 19th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yj64yqj
November 20th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrkvyh
November 22nd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ycw6s8l
November 25th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d
November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakpje3
November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d
End of you. Case closed.
Budikka
duke
wrote:
>On Nov 29, 7:17�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>>
>> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
>> >duke wrote:
>>
>> >> And where do chemicals come from?
>> > �And where does your god come from?
>>
>> I don't have such information.
>
>And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
>fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
No, just that I can't define God's origin. However, you tiny little mind is too
challenged to know the difference.
Father Haskell
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >duke wrote:
>
> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> > And where does your god come from?
>
> I don't have such information.
Yet you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
Father Haskell
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 29, 7:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
> >fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
>
> No, just that I can't define God's origin.
Ignorance.
Virgil
<4e946a6e-cfda-47ff...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Father Haskell <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
That is the source of a lot of equally foolish ideas.
duke
God's origin is only for God to know. You see, I know that, but you don't.
duke
Yeah, like the fable that God is a myth.
duke
The evidence for his existence is overwhelming. You have nothing.
Jimbo
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 29, 7:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
> >fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
>
> No, just that I can't define God's origin.
Or so much as prove his existence.
Jimbo
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:20:00 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>
>
>
>
>
> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 29, 2:46 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Nov 29, 7:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >> >And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
> >> >fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
>
> >> No, just that I can't define God's origin.
>
> >Ignorance.
>
> God's origin is only for God to know.
Blah, blah, blah... Mystical magical knowledge! Oh my! Get out your
beads and rattle them!! You're pathetic.
Jimbo
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:58 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>
> >On Nov 29, 8:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >Yet you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
>
> The evidence for his existence is overwhelming.
Yet, you have yet to provide that evidence here. In point of fact,
you have no evidence.
mani deli
>The evidence for his existence is overwhelming.
---to all brain washed idiots whose mental abilities never overcame
the scare they got in Sunday school.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:58 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 29, 8:17�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
> >>
> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >duke wrote:
> >>
> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> > �And where does your god come from?
> >>
> >> I don't have such information.
> >
> >Yet you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
>
> The evidence for his existence is overwhelming.
To most of the world it is underwhelming.
> You have nothing.
So do you, but we, at least, are aware of it.
>
> The Dukester, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****
"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the
aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles
against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates
from God."
Martin Luther
And I choose reason.
Dan Listermann
"Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
news:Virgil-ADD9F7....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> In article <ouf7h5hvuqs1s166m...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:58 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 29, 8:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>> >>
>> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
>> >> >duke wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
>> >> > And where does your god come from?
>> >>
>> >> I don't have such information.
>> >
>> >Yet you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
>>
>> The evidence for his existence is overwhelming.
>
> To most of the world it is underwhelming.
>
>> You have nothing.
>
> So do you, but we, at least, are aware of it.
His excuse for buying into theism is the Big Bang, as if he can prove that a
deity is necessary for that. At least he can admit to total ignorance as to
the origin of the deity, but also he has no curiosity about it. He just
accepts it is true by arguing from ignorance and proceeds to buy the obvious
superstitions that have developed around all deities.
Father Haskell
A splinter from the true cross?
Don't have one, Duke?
Wanna buy one?
Jimbo
>
> - Show quoted text -
I remember when I was in Jerusalem many years ago, 1976, and we took
the "Last walk of Christ" tour. There was an area that we came to, a
plaza where there was a building corner with a handprint in it. The
tour director said, "That's where Jesus placed his hand on the way to
be crucified!" Someone in the back yelled out, "Yeah, too bad this
building wasn't erected until the 1500's!". The tour director
quickly rushed us out of the plaza and continued the tour.
Apparently, there's only a few small sections of Jerusalem that are
still standing from the time of Jesus, and that wasn't one of them.
Father Haskell
How many would have believed the tourguide if that
heckler wouldn't have done them that favor?
Kilmir
What scares me is the number of people who would still believe the
tourguide despite the heckler's comment...
duke
Only the Supreme Creator, God by name, can address his origin, you big gobbler.
It is not for man to know unless God chooses to reveal it. There are no beads
to rattle, just the loose rocks between your ears.
Heeheeheeheehee.
duke
No one can prove God's existence, jelly brain. But 100% of the evidence
available leaves no doubt, other than those with vacuum in the spaces between
their ears.
Sound familiar, vacant lot between the ears?? Heeheehehehee.
duke
Presented many times, including to you. But.............well, you've come to be
a person that can't remember day to day, so I see no reason to continue to
provide you with the answer only to see it waif away from your head like a
breath of stale air.
duke
Your problem is that you cannot explain...............na, merrily suggest
creation.
duke
>In article <ouf7h5hvuqs1s166m...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:58 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 29, 8:17�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>> >>
>> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
>> >> >duke wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
>> >> > �And where does your god come from?
>> >>
>> >> I don't have such information.
>> >
>> >Yet you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
>>
>> The evidence for his existence is overwhelming.
>
>To most of the world it is underwhelming.
Then explain creation. You just stepped on the cow patty, v, and it's wet and
gooey.
>> You have nothing.
>So do you, but we, at least, are aware of it.
Waiting.
duke
>
>"Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
>news:Virgil-ADD9F7....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
>> In article <ouf7h5hvuqs1s166m...@4ax.com>,
>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:58 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>>> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Nov 29, 8:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>>> >>
>>> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
>>> >> >duke wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
>>> >> > And where does your god come from?
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't have such information.
>>> >
>>> >Yet you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
>>>
>>> The evidence for his existence is overwhelming.
>>
>> To most of the world it is underwhelming.
>>
>>> You have nothing.
>>
>> So do you, but we, at least, are aware of it.
>His excuse for buying into theism is the Big Bang, as if he can prove that a
>deity is necessary for that.
It's called something from nothing into nothing, empty brains. I await your
alternate superior thinking in revelation.
duke
Or how many like vacant lot would actually believe it's the same handprint
rather than a marker for the tourists comprehension. But, well, you know
vacant lot.
Dan Listermann
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ge3ah55al0c5mf08f...@4ax.com...
will skip returning the insult.
haiku jones
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:27:08 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 29, 2:46 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Nov 29, 7:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >> >And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
> >> >fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
>
> >> No, just that I can't define God's origin.
>
> >Or so much as prove his existence.
>
> No one can prove God's existence, jelly brain. But 100% of the evidence
> available leaves no doubt, other than those with vacuum in the spaces between
> their ears.
Apparently "those with vacuum in the spaces between
their ears" include the astronomers and physicists
of the National Academy of Science, the most
prestigious of American scientific bodies -- because
merely 1 in 12 of them believe in any kind of God,
let alone your own particular tribal god.
These are the folks who, unlike you, actually
understand current thinking on the origin
of the universe. And they understand current
work because they are the ones doing that work,
and unlike you do not base their ideas on
some dimly-remembered Discovery Channel show,
your misunderstanding of which you demonstrate
here on a weekly basis.
If your "something from nothing" is compelling
evidence for the existence of God, then why
do nearly all of those who, unlike you, actually
understand that "evidence", find themselves
unpersuaded?
Haiku Jones
Christopher A. Lee
Neil deGrasse Tyson said the real question is why there are as many as
that.
>These are the folks who, unlike you, actually
>understand current thinking on the origin
>of the universe. And they understand current
>work because they are the ones doing that work,
>and unlike you do not base their ideas on
>some dimly-remembered Discovery Channel show,
>your misunderstanding of which you demonstrate
>here on a weekly basis.
>
>If your "something from nothing" is compelling
>evidence for the existence of God, then why
>do nearly all of those who, unlike you, actually
>understand that "evidence", find themselves
>unpersuaded?
It's not evidence for anything, just an emotionally prejudicial straw
man used to "justify" the argument from personal ignorance.
But in any case, Quantum Mechanics has demonstrated particles "coming
into exiatence from nothing" at the quantum level as long as
conservation is preserved by the energy required to do so is "paid
back", which is a consequence of Heisenberg and Dirac. The universe is
considered to have a zero sum over its life so these bogus objections
vanish.
>Haiku Jones
Jimbo
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:27:57 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 30, 7:11 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:20:00 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
> >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 29, 2:46 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Nov 29, 7:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> >> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> >> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> >> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >> >> >And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
> >> >> >fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
>
> >> >> No, just that I can't define God's origin.
>
> >> >Ignorance.
>
> >> God's origin is only for God to know.
>
> >Blah, blah, blah... Mystical magical knowledge! Oh my! Get out your
> >beads and rattle them!! You're pathetic.
>
> Only the Supreme Creator, God by name, can address his origin,
You have yet to prove that your imaginary sky pixie exists, much less
has an origin.
Jimbo
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:27:08 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 29, 2:46 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Nov 29, 7:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >> >And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
> >> >fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
>
> >> No, just that I can't define God's origin.
>
> >Or so much as prove his existence.
>
> No one can prove God's existence, jelly brain.
LOL! You believe in a nonexistent sky-pixie, and you have the nerve
to call others "jelly-brain", lying pedophile earl...? What a fool
you are.
Jimbo
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:28:23 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 30, 7:52 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:58 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
>
> >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 29, 8:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >> >Yet you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
>
> >> The evidence for his existence is overwhelming.
>
> >Yet, you have yet to provide that evidence here. In point of fact,
> >you have no evidence.
>
> Presented many times, including to you.
No liar pedophile earl, you haven't presented it even once.
Jimbo
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:41:04 -0500, "Dan Listermann" <d...@listermann.com> wrote:
>
> >"Virgil" <Vir...@home.esc> wrote in message
> >news:Virgil-ADD9F7....@bignews.usenetmonster.com...
> >> duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:58 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
> >>> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >On Nov 29, 8:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >>> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >>> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >>> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >>> >Yet you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
>
> >>> The evidence for his existence is overwhelming.
>
> >> To most of the world it is underwhelming.
>
> >>> You have nothing.
>
> >> So do you, but we, at least, are aware of it.
> >His excuse for buying into theism is the Big Bang, as if he can prove that a
> >deity is necessary for that.
>
> It's called something from nothing into nothing,
You have no proof that it came from nothing, liar pedophile earl.
WangoTango
@cox.net says...
>
> Only the Supreme Creator, God by name, can address his origin, you big gobbler.
> It is not for man to know unless God chooses to reveal it.
>
Sure let's you guys off the hook for your ignorance.
Convenient, isn't it?
WangoTango
@cox.net says...
>
> No one can prove God's existence, jelly brain. But 100% of the evidence
You, or any other theist, has never provided on shred of evidence.
If there were any, there wouldn't be atheists.
WangoTango
@cox.net says...
>
> Presented many times, including to you.
>
You have an open forum here to make a case, but all we get is this claim
to have posted this profound information sometime in the past. Funny
how a Google Groups search turns up nothing and you continue to provide
nothing.
WangoTango
@cox.net says...
>
> Then explain creation.
>
You mean Creation.
There is a difference.
The one with the big 'C' is a fairy tale.
I create everyday, it's my job, does that make me a god?
WangoTango
@cox.net says...
> It's called something from nothing
>
duke
Rumor has it that 11 out of 12 believe in God. Astronomy and physics do not
address creation, but only that which happened next.
duke
Yes, yes there would be. Atheists make up some of the most ignorant people in
the universe.
haiku jones
Rumor has it that you just now made up that
"rumor", or to state it more directly: Duke
lies again.
Meanwhile, the folks who study reality,
rather than making it up, found otherwise:
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/sci_relig.htm
> Astronomy and physics do not
> address creation, but only that which happened next.
Your absymal ignorance of the current state
of cosmology is on display yet again.
You're the boy who's always floating
the Big Bang as your "evidence".
These are the people without whom
you would never heard of any such
thing.
And now many of them are looking
into what may have come before
the Big Bang.
Try reading something other
than `alt.atheism' for once. You
might learn something new.
Haiku Jones
Father Haskell
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:27:57 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 30, 7:11 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:20:00 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
> >> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 29, 2:46 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Nov 29, 7:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> >> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> >> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> >> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >> >> >And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
> >> >> >fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
>
> >> >> No, just that I can't define God's origin.
>
> >> >Ignorance.
>
> >> God's origin is only for God to know.
>
> >Blah, blah, blah... Mystical magical knowledge! Oh my! Get out your
> >beads and rattle them!! You're pathetic.
>
> Only the Supreme Creator, God by name, can address his origin, you big gobbler.
> It is not for man to know unless God chooses to reveal it.
Tell him we'd really like to know.
> There are no beads
> to rattle, just the loose rocks between your ears.
>
> Heeheeheeheehee.
>
> The Dukester, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****- Hide quoted text -
Father Haskell
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:27:08 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 29, 2:46 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Nov 29, 7:17 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:40:04 -0600, Tak A#344
>
> >> >> <notarealaddr...@youspambastards.com> wrote:
> >> >> >duke wrote:
>
> >> >> >> And where do chemicals come from?
> >> >> > And where does your god come from?
>
> >> >> I don't have such information.
>
> >> >And there you have it. An open admission in these world-wide public
> >> >fora that Duke has no evidence for this god of his.
>
> >> No, just that I can't define God's origin.
>
> >Or so much as prove his existence.
>
> No one can prove God's existence, jelly brain.
Odds for god's existance are officially 1 in 7.5 billion, then.