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Patrick

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:51:14 PM12/30/09
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If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on
matter. If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine
correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew and
a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz
theistically. This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is true
, but rather because of a series of chemical reactions� � Morality, tragedy,
and sorrow are equally evanescent. They are all empty sensations created by
the chemical reactions of the brain, in turn created by too much pizza the
night before. If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical
epiphenomena, like swamp gas over fetid water. This means that we have no
reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call
reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality. If
no God, mankind is a set of bi-pedal carbon units of mostly water. And
nothing else.

Douglas Wilson


mani deli

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:12:11 PM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:51:14 -0500, "Patrick" <bark...@erinot.com>
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God is the immature man's Santa Claus

ar...@hobbiton.net

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:27:42 AM12/31/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:51:14 -0500, the slug <bark...@erinot.com>
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>If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on
>matter.

That depends on how one defines 'God,' doesn't it? Douglas Wilson is
honcho at an Idaho church which tries to be both Calvinist and
Evangelical (!) so guess whish 'God' Wilson is selling?

>If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine
>correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew and
>a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz
>theistically. This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is true , but rather because of a series of chemical reactions�

Try that on Chris Hitchens the next time you two meet. He might tell
you that there's no significant _chemical_ difference between Mountain
Dew and Dr. Pepper. The fizz is largely a function of the amount of
gas each drink contains, with some effect imparted by the shape of the
container. The more gas and the narrower the container opening, the
greater the fizz.
We should perhaps thank Douglas Wilson for explaining to us why he
fizzes so frequently ....

> � Morality, tragedy, and sorrow are equally evanescent.
>They are all empty sensations created by
>the chemical reactions of the brain,

Perhaps -- if the brain has lost all its fizz after a good shaking,
and the bottle held nothing else of consequence ...

>in turn created by too much pizza the night before.

That has the ring of personal experience. Wilson might feel better if
he changed his diet.

>If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical
>epiphenomena, like swamp gas over fetid water.

Or like the fragrance of a rose, the piquancy of aged cheddar, the
bouquet of a good wine ...

>This means that we have no
>reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call
>reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality.

Calling Calvinist morality 'irrational' is, at last, something with
which I can agree.

Patrick

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Dec 31, 2009, 2:18:08 PM12/31/09
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<ar...@hobbiton.net> wrote ...

> <bark...@erinot.com>> wrote:
>>If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on
>>matter.
>
> That depends on how one defines 'God,' doesn't it? Douglas Wilson is
> honcho at an Idaho church which tries to be both Calvinist and
> Evangelical (!) so guess whish 'God' Wilson is selling?
>
>>If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine
>>correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew
>>and
>>a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz
>>theistically. This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is
>>true , but rather because of a series of chemical reactions.

>
> Try that on Chris Hitchens the next time you two meet. He might tell
> you that there's no significant _chemical_ difference between Mountain
> Dew and Dr. Pepper. The fizz is largely a function of the amount of
> gas each drink contains, with some effect imparted by the shape of the
> container. The more gas and the narrower the container opening, the
> greater the fizz.
> We should perhaps thank Douglas Wilson for explaining to us why he
> fizzes so frequently ....
>
>> . Morality, tragedy, and sorrow are equally evanescent.

>>They are all empty sensations created by
>>the chemical reactions of the brain,
>
> Perhaps -- if the brain has lost all its fizz after a good shaking,
> and the bottle held nothing else of consequence ...
>
>>in turn created by too much pizza the night before.
>
> That has the ring of personal experience. Wilson might feel better if
> he changed his diet.
>
>>If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical
>>epiphenomena, like swamp gas over fetid water.
>
> Or like the fragrance of a rose, the piquancy of aged cheddar, the
> bouquet of a good wine ...
>
>>This means that we have no
>>reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call
>>reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality.
>
> Calling Calvinist morality 'irrational' is, at last, something with
> which I can agree.

Gosh, I ought to read some of the stuff I post.....


ar...@hobbiton.net

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:55:58 PM12/31/09
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:18:08 -0500, the slug <bark...@erinot.com>
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><ar...@hobbiton.net> wrote ...

Do you have the stamina?

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