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12st...@aa.com

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Oct 7, 2006, 2:37:20 PM10/7/06
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ATTENTION NEWCOMERS (and others)

Tedw Disclaimer

Tedw is a TROLL. DO NOT feed this TROLL.
DO NOT EVEN WASTE YOUR TIME READING HIS POSTS.

Tedw is a prime example of a person who has a serious mental disease,
which goes far beyond alcoholism. This guy needs more than AA and/or
help with alcoholism. It's very obvious that he needs serious help
for his mental illnesses which go far beyond alcoholism. He probably
will implode real soon, and what worries me is how many other people
he will harm in the process. Whatever he posts on this newsgroup
should be immediately discarded. Ideally, no one should respond to
him, and he will go away and hopefully find more time to seek help for
his mental disease. Alcoholism as well as drug abuse and other
addictions are all mental illnesses, but some people who seek help for
their addictions have far greater issues that need attention and help.
Tedw is apparently one of these types. He is very unstable, and
appears to be dangerous both to himself and to others. Tedw is a
bigot, racist, homophobic and a religious nutcase. He also hates
Alcoholics Anonymous with a passion. He is a well known TROLL on
alt.recovery.aa, several relgious newsgroups, and other groups. This
man is severely mentally ill.

If you are a newcomer to this newsgroup or to AA, please discard
anything and everything posted by Tedw. AA is a good program and it
works, if you work with it. But everyone is different and unique, and
we all need to choose the ways that work best for ourselves.

Tedw is a deranged individual, so please disgard anything he says.
Set your newsreader software to filter out anything posted by him, and
please avoid replying to anything he says. This person is a prime
example of just how mentally sick some people are in AA, but is not
the norm. Everyone has issues that lead them to alcoholism or other
addictions, but some are sicker than others. Tedw is proof of just
how mentally ill some persons are. Even if he can maintain sobriety,
he still needs far more help. You can actually help him by NOT
responding to anything he posts. He craves attention, even if it's
negative. Do him and everyone else on this newsgroup a favor, and DO
NOT respond to him at all. This newsgroup is intended to discuss AA
and alcoholism. We can be serious or share some jokes, but we are not
on here to feed the sick mind of one individual who is out to destroy
AA and this newsgroup for his own pleasure. If you can not filter out
his posts, simply hit the DELETE key whenever you see anything posted
by Tedw.


Thank You.

12 Stepper

Ron G

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Oct 7, 2006, 4:28:23 PM10/7/06
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<12st...@aa.com> wrote in message
news:vpsfi21ddm5b9125m...@4ax.com...

> ATTENTION NEWCOMERS (and others)
>
> Tedw Disclaimer
>
> Tedw is a TROLL. DO NOT feed this TROLL.
> DO NOT EVEN WASTE YOUR TIME READING HIS POSTS.
>

Doesn't it occur to you that you are doing the very thing that you are
suggesting other people don't do? Feeding the troll? By suggesting that
people don't read, don't post replys etc. is just as much a feed to the
troll as trying to have a discussion or arguement with a troll.

RonG


12st...@aa.com

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Oct 7, 2006, 6:54:22 PM10/7/06
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Well no one will have to worry about it much longer. His ISP
(earthlink) has been notified by several persons recently. He can
kiss his account goodbye.

tedw

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Oct 7, 2006, 7:17:22 PM10/7/06
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This Tedw sounds like a dangerous person if what your saying is true.
People should check out his website:

http://Christianrecovery.blogspot.com

that way they can see where he is coming from and decide for themselves
if you are a liar or not.

ScottyFLL

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Oct 7, 2006, 7:26:51 PM10/7/06
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tedw wrote:
>
> This Tedw sounds like a dangerous person if what your saying is true.
> People should check out his website:
>
> http://Christianrecovery.blogspot.com
>
That website -- just a blog, really -- is the lamest I've ever seen on
all the internet since the inception of same. I advise people to not
waste the energy it takes to click on that link. You say the exact
same shit there as you do here.

tedw

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Oct 7, 2006, 7:54:22 PM10/7/06
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If its the lamest blog since the inception of the internet, its worth
looking at for just that reason.

www.christianrecovery.blogspot.com

The Nolalu Barn Owl

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Oct 7, 2006, 9:00:52 PM10/7/06
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You've convinced me.
-
Gordie

"But what is also to the point, let us note that the very TRADITION,
teaching and faith of the CATHOLIC CHURCH from the beginning,
WHICH THE LORD GAVE, was preached by the Apostles, and was
preserved by the Fathers. On this was the Church founded; and if
anyone departs from this, he neither is nor any longer ought to be
called a Christian."
- St. Athanasius, Letters to Serapion of Thmuis, 1,28, 359 A.D.

David M

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Oct 7, 2006, 9:14:58 PM10/7/06
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ScottyFLL wrote:

>> http://Christianrecovery.blogspot.com

"I don't care what you do with me, Brer Fox. Just so you don't fling me
in that briar patch!"

http://geobay.com/0ae329

ScottyFLL

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Oct 7, 2006, 9:27:32 PM10/7/06
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tedw wrote:
>
> This Tedw sounds like a dangerous person if what your saying is true.
> People should check out his website:
>
> http://Christianrecovery.blogspot.com

Oh, he IS dangerous, that Ted Wegener. Read the following, in his own
words, which he did publish to the internet, but not to the site he
lists above (the URL is below):

"When I was about 10 years old an accident happened that is worth
telling. It was popular at the time to pants someone. A group of boys
would find someone they didn't like and pants them to humiliate them.
I was with a group of boys who ran across a boy in our neighborhood,
Jim T., and they decided to pants him. After they got him down on the
ground they pulled his pants and underwear down exposing his genitals.
I was already a smoker and I was seized by the impulse to burn him on
the genitals with a lit cigarette and proceeded to do so. His face
grimaced in pain and he burned with resentment towards me."

Nice, huh? He's never apologized for it, has no remorse, and get this:
he BLAMES HIS MOTHER! Of course, it wasn't his MOTHER who
extinguished a cigarette on the penis of a 10-year-old boy who had been
restrained by a group of monsters. It was Ted Wegener, "Christian".

http://www.facesandvoicesofrecovery.org/about/story_wegener.php

David M

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Oct 7, 2006, 9:38:59 PM10/7/06
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ScottyFLL wrote:

>> http://Christianrecovery.blogspot.com

> http://www.facesandvoicesofrecovery.org/about/story_wegener.php

Jesus, Scotty, lighten up. He said it was an accident for cripes sake!

Robert McGregor

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Oct 7, 2006, 11:21:29 PM10/7/06
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ATTENTION NEWCOMERS (and others)

Disclaimer
Love and tolerance of others is not this person's code.
http://tinyurl.com/rwv9s

12st...@aa.com is an impostor.

Bob

Mark Warner

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Oct 8, 2006, 12:32:00 AM10/8/06
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12st...@aa.com wrote:
>
> Well no one will have to worry about it much longer. His ISP
> (earthlink) has been notified by several persons recently. He can
> kiss his account goodbye.

You've been saying that for some time, but haven't delivered.

Besides, tedw hasn't violated any TOS. He's just an inconsequential,
deranged netkook. Much like yourself.

--
Mark Warner
...goin' mobile
lose .inhibitions when replying


tedw

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Oct 8, 2006, 1:23:59 AM10/8/06
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I wasn't a Christian at 10 years old, Scotty. You dont know I have no
remorse. You also dont understand that the Spirit of Evil can transfer
itself from parent to child through cruelty. Its called Generation
Possession. But I waste my breathe trying to talk to you. You think you
know. Continue on in your ignorance. Maybe someday your suffering will
wake you up.

BTW, you still telling people the sin of homosexuality is normal?

12st...@aa.com

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Oct 8, 2006, 2:15:36 AM10/8/06
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After reading that you did this disgusting act, it's quite obvious
that you ARE a homosexual. You might have it repressed, but you
definately are gay to perform an act like that. I always suspected
you were a homosexual, because you speak about it so often and that is
usually a clue that you are looking for personal approval of your
repressed inner desires.

On top of that, we now have proof just how mentally ill you truely
are. Few men would do something as awful even to someone they
consider an enemy, and it appears this was not even an enemy, just
some kid in the neighborhood. On top of that, you go and brag about
it on your filthy website, for the whole world to read. Then you got
the nerve to go around telling people you are a christian. You're no
christian, you are a mentally ill piece of garbage who only wants
attention because you never grew up. So you come to this newsgroup to
get attention by harassing people and talking the same trash over and
over again, year after year. I'll be glad when your ISP cancels your
account. You really need help badly, and once your internet is
disconnected, I really hope you get the help you need. Personally, I
dont care what happens to you because you are nothing but a worthless
piece of trash. It's those who come into contact with you that I
worry about. It's people like you that murder, rape, molest children,
and do other violent crimes, and if you are not locked away, that will
be next, and some innocent person(s) will suffer because of your sick
mind. It's too bad that kids parents did not sue your family and have
you placed in a prison or mental hospital where you belong. If I had
been that parent, you would have been locked away for many many years.
You are a danger to society and to everyone that comes near you. Get
help now before you harm others.

And for the record, it's NOT your parents that did it, it's YOU and
YOUR SICK MIND. It's easy to place blame on others for your own
faults. Obviously you are not working the steps or you would have
realized by now that YOU are the only person to blame.
Get help. You are one sick mother fucker.


12st...@aa.com

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Oct 8, 2006, 2:30:55 AM10/8/06
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Love and tolerance must be earned. Mentally unstable, attention
seeking TROLLS dont earn anything except a one way ticket to losing
their internet service.

--------------------

Robert McGregor

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Oct 8, 2006, 8:19:47 AM10/8/06
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12st...@aa.com wrote the following on 8/10/2006 4:30 PM:
> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:21:29 +1000, Robert McGregor
> <robert_...@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> ATTENTION NEWCOMERS (and others)
>>
>> Disclaimer
>> Love and tolerance of others is not this person's code.
>> http://tinyurl.com/rwv9s
>>
>> 12st...@aa.com is an impostor.
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> Love and tolerance must be earned. Mentally unstable, attention
> seeking TROLLS dont earn anything except a one way ticket to losing
> their internet service.
>

Further demonstrations of your ignorance merely exacerbate the impotence
of your imposture.

Bob

ByTor

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Oct 8, 2006, 8:39:59 AM10/8/06
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In article <1160285039....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, tedw2
@earthlink.net says...

> I wasn't a Christian at 10 years old, Scotty. You dont know I have no
> remorse.

And you are a better person now? And just what are you trying to
compensate for by being a holy roller eh Ted? You sure put a lot of
energy into it..........

> You also dont understand that the Spirit of Evil can transfer
> itself from parent to child through cruelty. Its called Generation
> Possession.

Bullshit! You're story is *peanuts* compared to most......I read your
story & find nothing earth shattering about it. Poor poor Teddy the
victim..........If this so called spirit existed I'd be beating the shit
outa my kids everyday........It's a personal choice Ted to continue
aggressive behavior, I learned that the hard way....So quit the bullshit
with your victim routine.....YOU give the treatment industry a bad name
with your misguided concept of *underlying* issues.......

> But I waste my breathe trying to talk to you. You think you
> know. Continue on in your ignorance. Maybe someday your suffering will
> wake you up.

WOW!!! Nice statement Ted, have you really looked at what you just wrote
& applied it to yourself in any way?

zmssc...@yahoo.com

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Oct 8, 2006, 1:30:02 PM10/8/06
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Wow. That is some major sickness or something there. And I think
you're right that he has no remorse.

zmssc...@yahoo.com

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Oct 8, 2006, 1:32:20 PM10/8/06
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David M wrote:
>
> > http://www.facesandvoicesofrecovery.org/about/story_wegener.php
>
> Jesus, Scotty, lighten up. He said it was an accident for cripes sake!

An accident? I must have missed something. It doesn't sound like an
accident. Do you think it's true or is he just a troll?

David M

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Oct 8, 2006, 1:37:49 PM10/8/06
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>>> http://www.facesandvoicesofrecovery.org/about/story_wegener.php

He starts the story by saying: "When I was about 10 years old an
accident happened that is worth telling...."

zmssc...@yahoo.com

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Oct 8, 2006, 1:46:44 PM10/8/06
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I saw that. But it wasn't an accident. Did you read the whole thing?
He did this on purpose! Doesn't that indicate to you what type of
person he is? This happened BEFORE he was using. Have YOU ever burned
a child's private parts, accidentally? I've never heard of such a
thing!

zmssc...@yahoo.com

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Oct 8, 2006, 2:04:37 PM10/8/06
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tedw wrote:
> > http://www.facesandvoicesofrecovery.org/about/story_wegener.php
=======================================

> I wasn't a Christian at 10 years old, Scotty. You dont know I have no
> remorse. You also dont understand that the Spirit of Evil can transfer
> itself from parent to child through cruelty. Its called Generation
> Possession. But I waste my breathe trying to talk to you. You think you
> know. Continue on in your ignorance. Maybe someday your suffering will
> wake you up.
>
> BTW, you still telling people the sin of homosexuality is normal?
======================================

I read what you wrote. I don't know anybody Christian or not who has
done what you've done, and I've been around the block. I don't know
any atheists or agnostics who have done such a vile thing to a
defenseless kid who had been taken down by a gang and been burned in
his private parts. That is criminal. That constitutes a sex crime.
Nothing you do now will erase that deed. It was sinful and evil and
you don't seem to want to take responsibility for it so how can you say
you are "Christian".

And then you ask if homosexuality is normal? I didn't see anyone
accuse you of being homosexual, but when I read what you did, and then
see you bringing up homosexuality in this context, it makes me wonder.
I don't know any gay people who have done what you did either. I think
that two people agreeing to have sex is not anywhere near as sinful as
what you did to that kid. What you did is an indication of what is
INSIDE you. It's been inside you since you were very young. It is
obviously STILL inside you. You should be in prison.

David M

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Oct 8, 2006, 2:49:14 PM10/8/06
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Did you also notice that he just *happened* to be with a gang of boys
when they (not he) decided to pants the child?

http://geobay.com/4e9d6d

Stuart

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Oct 8, 2006, 3:25:31 PM10/8/06
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<zmssc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160329604....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

Then you never heard of a "Blue Angel" Someone has to light the match..:)


zmssc...@yahoo.com

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Oct 9, 2006, 7:48:54 PM10/9/06
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David M wrote:
>
> Did you also notice that he just *happened* to be with a gang of boys
> when they (not he) decided to pants the child?
>
Isn't that a coincidence!

The "other" boys got the innocent child down, and the "other" boys
pantsed him, and then tedw accidentally (by fault of his mother) burned
the child's private parts. That kid probably still has scars.

We all have our accidents. Dontcha just hate it when you have to say
"Oops, I'm sorry I burned your penis. It was an accident."

12st...@aa.com

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Oct 10, 2006, 12:43:54 AM10/10/06
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We can all hope that some day, some where, some one does the same to
Tedw. What goes around comes around. This is probably a big part of
Teds preoccupation with homosexuality. He knows there are others who
are as sick or sicker as him, and one of them will burn his penis.

ScottyFLL

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Oct 10, 2006, 3:21:48 PM10/10/06
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12st...@aa.com wrote:
>
> We can all hope that some day, some where, some one does the same to
> Tedw.

I wouldn't put my beautiful cigarette anywhere near tedw's filthy dick.
He's got no worries there.

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