New Book promotes sex with children
tedw
A new book published by Haworth Press features multiple Ph.D. "experts"
claiming that sex with children "can benefit" boys and even serve a
"mentoring function."
"Same-Sex Desire and Love in Greco-Roman Antiquity and in the Classical
Tradition of the West" features "scholarly" treatises by a raft of
mostly-PhD academics, all praising earlier civilizations -
particularly Greece and Rome - for the role homosexuality played in
those ancient cultures.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46394
I wonder if all the people who advocate and support gay AA meetings
would also advocate "Intergenerational sex" meetings also? Or is that
going to far?
This would seem to fit right in with what it says on the GSO
website:
"In A.A. today, I know sober leather fans, transvestites, and members
of every other sexual group there is. But the only important thing here
is that we are all human beings, all alcoholics, and all in A.A.
together."
http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/default/en_about_aa_sub.cfm?subpageid=64&pageid=12
tedw
Tradition of the West" features "scholarly" treatises by a raft of
mostly-PhD academics, all praising earlier civilizations -
particularly Greece and Rome - for the role homosexuality played in
those ancient cultures.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46394
I wonder if all the people who promote,accept,and endorse Gay AA
meetings would be in favor of intergenerational sex meetings also?
This would seem to fit right in with what it says on the GSO website:
http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/default/en_about_aa_sub.cfm?subpageid=64&pageid=12
John
>
> A new book published by Haworth Press features multiple Ph.D. "experts"
> claiming that sex with children "can benefit" boys and even serve a
> "mentoring function."
>
The book doesn't promote, it reports. You have this strange belife, ted,
that if someone talks about something they must be promoting it or agree
with what they are reporting.
John
ByTor
te...@earthlink.net, tedw says...
> I wonder if all the people who advocate and support gay AA meetings
> would also advocate "Intergenerational sex" meetings also? Or is that
> going to far?
You really are a FUCKING loser there tedw.....Why don't you just go to
some other group & spout your sick FUCKING BULLSHIT!
To answer your question....YES, you are going WAY to far now, off the
deep end.
It's amazing that you even found an article & a book....WAY to much time
on your hands..............
THIS will most definately be my last reply to you ever because the jokes
over now with taunting tedw....You are about one of the DIRTIEST
motherfuckers I've encountered in the NG forums so far........And if the
rest of the members here keep responding to you and feeding in to your
sick shit than I'd have to question them.
F.H.
> te...@earthlink.net, tedw says...
>>I wonder if all the people who advocate and support gay AA meetings
>>would also advocate "Intergenerational sex" meetings also? Or is that
>>going to far?
> You really are a FUCKING loser there tedw
> THIS will most definately be my last reply to you ever
Usually, I see him only when other reply. When I saw your reply I got
his entire post on my other newsreader. Just as I suspected he quoted
some sick fuck like himself (or someone he wishes he was). The title
suggested (to me) something more scholarly, (than the sick mini review
offered) and so it turns out, it is.
Review by a normal person: (you will notice quickly that it is way,
way, way beyond the comprehension of the impaired cerebrating of the
tedw's of the world).
In ancient times, the Greek god Eros personified both heterosexual and
homosexual attractions. Same-Sex Desire and Love in Greco-Roman
Antiquity and in Classical Tradition of the West explores the homosexual
side of the vanished civilizations of Greece and Rome, and the resulting
influence on the Classical tradition of the West. Respected scholars
clearly present evidence that shows the extensive nature of
homoeroticism and homosexuality in the classical world. Iconography such
as vase decoration and carved gemstones is presented in photographs, and
the text includes an examination of a wide selection of literature of
the times with an eye to opening new vistas for future study.
Same-Sex Desire and Love in Greco-Roman Antiquity and in Classical
Tradition of the West lays to rest the myths generally accepted as truth
about Greco-Roman views on homosexuality and brings fresh insights to
philological and historical scholarship. This book provides nuanced,
humanistic discussions on the common phenomena of same-sex desire.
Topics include Greek pederasty and its origins, the Greek female
homoeroticism of Sappho, homosexuality in Greek and Roman art and
literature, and the emergence of the gay liberation movement with the
influence of discussions of Greek and Roman homosexuality in the
twentieth century. The text is extensively referenced and includes
helpful notation.
Same-Sex Desire and Love in Greco-Roman Antiquity and in Classical
Tradition of the West provides a comprehensive table of abbreviations,
subject index, and index of names and terms. It discusses in detail:
* the integral role athletic nudity played in athlete-trainer pederasty
* the central role of pederasty in Greek history, politics, art,
literature, and learning
* tracing the history of the Ganymede myth
* how the athletic culture of Sparta contributed to the spread of
pederasty in Greece
* homosexuality in Boeotia in contrast to the rest of Greece
* the homoeroticism of Sappho
* dispelling generally accepted myths prevalent about Roman sexuality
* Roman visual representations of homosexuality as evidence of
prevailing attitudes
* homoerotic connotations in literature and philosophy of the Italian
Renaissance
* the effect of German classical philology on gay scholarship
* English Romantic poets and the importance of male love in their lives
* the Uranians’ use of allusions and themes from ancient Greece
* the building of intellectual community through gay print
culture—through the use of Greece and Rome as models
* the empirical data supporting pederasty as an essential part of
nurturing adolescent maturation across cultures
Same-Sex Desire and Love in Greco-Roman Antiquity and in Classical
Tradition of the West is essential reading for Classicists, specialists
in gender/sexuality studies, humanists interested in the classical
tradition in Western culture, psychologists, and other social scientists
in human sexuality.
nipntuk
>
>This would seem to fit right in with what it says on the GSO website:
>
Your obsession with other people's peepees seems to be dragging you
to new depths of depravity, dOOd.
------------------------------
Visit http://www.nacer.org for the real 'Survivor Yucatan'
tedw
envelope but I think you might find a substantiial number of people who
attend Gay AA meeting might be in favor of man/boy relationships.
ByTor
te...@earthlink.net, tedw says...
> You need to get your temper under control. I was kind of pushing the
> envelope but I think you might find a substantiial number of people who
> attend Gay AA meeting might be in favor of man/boy relationships.
>
>
Really? Here's my temper under control......GO FUCK YOURSELF you nasty
bastard!
Arrrrrrrrrgh, I wish I knew you in person you insulting cocksucker!
Tex
>Really? Here's my temper under control......GO FUCK YOURSELF you nasty
>bastard!
>Arrrrrrrrrgh, I wish I knew you in person you insulting cocksucker!
I recall your last post was your last post to this person and you even
went as far to say you would have to question the rest of those who
might keep responding.
I'll admit that gave me a little pause and I was ready to respond with
what some refer to as lunatic ravings when I gave it some thought,
seeing as you actually had a reasonable point. Thus, I held off, and
the not banging of my head against the wall so to speak actually felt
good........then
You ignore your own good advice. I'm not going to question you for
doing so (how wonderful of me :) ) because by responding I have placed
myself in position to be questioned.
Still I am glad you don't know him in person, not for his sake, for
yours. It wouldn't be worth the price. I think the responses to him
have shown there are more unlike him then there are like him (at least
amongst the small # posting)....I think the responses are actually
where the 'reason' lies in this whole tedw horse & pony show.
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ByTor
twiz...@hotmail.com, Tex says...
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:31:21 -0400, ByTor <By...@snowdog.com> wrote:
>
> >Really? Here's my temper under control......GO FUCK YOURSELF you nasty
> >bastard!
> >Arrrrrrrrrgh, I wish I knew you in person you insulting cocksucker!
>
> I recall your last post was your last post to this person and you even
> went as far to say you would have to question the rest of those who
> might keep responding.
>
> I'll admit that gave me a little pause and I was ready to respond with
> what some refer to as lunatic ravings when I gave it some thought,
> seeing as you actually had a reasonable point. Thus, I held off, and
> the not banging of my head against the wall so to speak actually felt
> good........then
>
> You ignore your own good advice. I'm not going to question you for
> doing so (how wonderful of me :) ) because by responding I have placed
> myself in position to be questioned.
>
> Still I am glad you don't know him in person, not for his sake, for
> yours. It wouldn't be worth the price. I think the responses to him
> have shown there are more unlike him then there are like him (at least
> amongst the small # posting)....I think the responses are actually
> where the 'reason' lies in this whole tedw horse & pony show.
Yes I realized it was hypocritical of me after I posted it.......But for
that moment it REALLY pissed me off.......Teddy boy usually never
responds to me anyway as I suppose I'm to NEGATIVE for him/it whatever
so in essence I feel I don't feed his nonsense......But, you're
absolutely correct I did not take my own advice......But instant
gratification is "nice" sometimes........ ;0)
It just amazes be at the pair of balls on this fucker insulting
"everyone" in AA as potentially accepting that nonsense he
spewed.......Anyway, I won't use you as a sounding board for his/it's
bullshit........Again, you're correct, I am wrong for not taking my own
advice......... ;0)
tedw
people who attend Gay AA meetings probably would have no problem with
man/boy love associations. I cite the following as proof:
"According to Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, pedophiles have
long existed as a subculture within the gay rights movement. Dailey
quotes David Thorstad, a homosexual activist and founding member of
NAMBLA, to demonstrate that by 1985, pedophilia had gained acceptance
within the homosexual movement, as it was in that year that NAMBLA was
admitted as a member in New York's council of Lesbian and Gay
Organizations and the International Gay Association. In the words of
Jim Kepner, at one time the curator of the International Gay and
Lesbian Archives in Los Angeles: "A point I've been trying to make is
that if we reject the boylovers in our midst today, we'd better stop
waving the banner of the ancient Greeks, of Michelangelo, Leonardo da
Vinci, Oscar Wilde, Walt Whitman, Horatio Alger, and Shakespeare. We'd
better stop claiming them as part of our history unless we are
broadening our concept of what it means to be gay."
Its probably true that a majority of AA's are against pedophilia but
they ARE supportive of Gays and their lifestyle.
The Gay rights movement could not have made such inroads into AA if
decent AA's had taken a stand. A few did and I saw it in Los Angeles at
an intergroup meeting. But they were outnumbered and outvoted.
I think there are quite a few AA's who are against the acceptance and
endorsement of the Gayl ifestyle by AA.. I think they are also against
the pro-homosexual propoganda put out on the GSO website. But they fail
to speak out.
BTW, If you respond angrily to one of my posts, who is in control of
your emotions, me or you?
ByTor
@earthlink.net, tedw says...
> ByTor, I was making my point by exaggeration.
READ my language...........FUCK OFF!
tedw
nipntuk
>No wonder your a drunk
Oh, the Xtian love ooozes from this thread....
Feel the warm.....
Tommy
> John
Which qualifies this guy TedW as promoting Paedophily, Homosexuality,
buggery etc on this newsgroup.
Surely one of you Usenet/ Constitution / Amendments (various) experts can do
something about this. While you all blabber about freedom etc, I am sure
the Fondling Fathers never meant it to coerce people into becoming
Paedophiles.
So come clean do you guys agree with the pervie or not. If you don't,
wouldn't it be appropriate to deny him his crazy grabs for attention.
Cheers
Tommy
tedw
I think I went a little too far on this post. Although I think there is
a radical homosexual element in favor of sex with young boys and some
of them may frequent Gay AA meetings, I dont believe the majoprity of
AA's are in favor of that. So, I apologize for suggesting that.
However, I dont apologize for my remarks about homosexuality being
perverse, and that AA has become sick by supporting it.
nipntuk
>
>nipntuk wrote:
>> On 20 Sep 2005 09:33:29 -0700, "tedw" <te...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >No wonder your a drunk
>>
>> Oh, the Xtian love ooozes from this thread....
>> Feel the warm.....
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Visit http://www.nacer.org for the real 'Survivor Yucatan'
>
>
>I think I went a little too far on this post.
Seems like...
>Although I think there is
>a radical homosexual element in favor of sex with young boys and some
>of them may frequent Gay AA meetings, I dont believe the majoprity of
>AA's are in favor of that. So, I apologize for suggesting that.
I would appreciate that, if it weren't for the qualifier - which is
bigoted and based upon a negative and false stereotype, demeaning to
vast numbers of good people. Truly it is likely that gay pedophiles
may attend AA meetings. No more nor less than non-gay pedophiles,
proportionate to their numbers within the population at large, I'd
wager. I'd assert that a disproportionate number of straight fathers
in AA may have committed incest with their own children or others'
while drinking. Though we somehow make a distinction between incest
and pedophilia (lost on me - sorry) it would be far more likely that
these individuals would be in attendance at any given meeting. Should
they be banned? Would it be an 'endorsement of incest' that they are
not run out of the rooms for their actions while drunk?
>However, I dont apologize for my remarks about homosexuality being
>perverse, and that AA has become sick by supporting it.
You're entitled to your opinion.
Craig S.
news:8od1j1linpa0695it...@4ax.com...
You forgot to add "...no matter how ridiculous it is."
Virtualoso
<car...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ... that they are
> not run out of the rooms for their actions while drunk?
How would anyone there know folks' actions elsewhere and elsewhen while
drunk?
SandyG
"Gay" does not mean "child molester". I think you need to do your
homework, Tedw. I believe the research shows that the majority of child
molesters are heterosexual men.
--
-Sandy
"Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage. Rage against the dying of
the light." -Dylan Thomas
nipntuk
We could assume, for the sake of argument, that they may have
confessed to such actions, been convicted, or been so ID'd by their
victims. It was a rhetorical question though, as I figger you to
already know... ;-)
jim stinnett
book?
Confirms what everyone has been saying about you all along.
lol
Craig S.
news:dgqgf...@news3.newsguy.com...
> I believe the research shows that the majority of child
> molesters are heterosexual men.
And female teachers.
tedw
F.H.
> "SandyG" <Moll...@emessen.com> wrote in message
>>I believe the research shows that the majority of child
>>molesters are heterosexual men.
> And female teachers.
Now you tell me.
Sharx35
"F.H." <conn...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0S5Ye.15908$fb6.10701@trnddc08...
I recall some of them I sure wish had "molested" me.
>
snertking
> tedw wrote:
>
>>You need to get your temper under control. I was kind of pushing the
>>envelope but I think you might find a substantiial number of people
>>who attend Gay AA meeting might be in favor of man/boy relationships.
>
>
> "Gay" does not mean "child molester". I think you need to do your
> homework, Tedw. I believe the research shows that the majority of child
> molesters are heterosexual men.
>
The link he posted about the link between homo's and pedophilia even
admits that the majority of child molestation cases are committed by
hetero people.
Tommy
"Craig S." <> "SandyG" ...
>
> > I believe the research shows that the majority of child
> > molesters are heterosexual men.
>
> And female teachers.
How would a man be hetro if he was a child molestor. Thats like calling a
elephant an animal mammal
Or calling a Nigerian an African American, jaysus you guys have a lot to
answer for, Do Africans automatically qualify for US citizenship if they're
black.
Let me tell you it makes it awkward for the rest of us, I never know when
I'm right or wrong. I went in for black polish for me shoes, there was this
dark woman in the queue, I had to buy sweets, then queue up again and buy a
set of batteries, then she left, and the fecking woman behind the counter
wouldn't take them back and I had no money left, so I rubbed the batteries
on my shoes, I was going to rub the sweets on them, but we have a lot of
ants and flies (shsh ducking down is it all right to say flies in mixed
company, ducking down again) so I figured the best thing is to buy white
shoes which don't stay clean very long and there's no such thing as white
polish, so I'll have dirty shoes but I won't get into trouble with the
anti-racism board, and if I wear my trousers really long then no one will
see the toes of my shoes. Problem solved.
Now where was I, yes back in my day, we wore brown boots or black wellies if
we could find a pair that didn't pass our knees, don't mind how long the
feet part were, as long as your knees bent then you could do a sort of
waddle. Made a great excuse for being late for school too, teachers in them
days understood that boys had to wash their wellies before treading down the
school corridoor.
I always wanted to be a teacher, I had loads of jokes that would make me
look real smart in front of the students. Especially jokes about black
polish, brown polish, tan polish, and believe it or not neutral polish, - in
case it hasn't been imported into your countries yet it is for neutral
coloured shoes,,,,....
So I mean what colour socks do you wear with neutral shoes - - - neutral.
Yeah I want to get my hair dyed neutral to go with my neutral shoes. Oh and
I'm meeting some people from America today so I better wear my neutral suit,
the one with the neutral buttons, jaysus I hope the flies are not neutral as
no one will know its closed or open, and then what if my little bit of fuzzy
black ehherhh neutral hair peeps out ohh shite this is far too complicated
for a rustic like me
Cheers
Tommy