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Fred Exley

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:53:10 AM12/23/09
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But it's not.


Islam Explained in Laymans Terms


Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country
to agitate for their religious privileges. When politically correct,
tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for
their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep
in as well.

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any
given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a
peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is
the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities
and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and
among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

>From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to
their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the
introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby
securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure
on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with
threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow
them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic
Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase
lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we
are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and
results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition
to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen
daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad
militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian
churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror
attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

>From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of
non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims),
sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and
Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77..5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some
State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations
drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been
experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic
House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is
a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only
word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the
most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood
lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It
was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my
family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the
tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon
Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well
under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim
populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and
within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even
enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor
non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not
integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrases.
They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime
punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations,
Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national
average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population.
But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus,
Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the
world's population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and
Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

http://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Terrorism-Islam-Historical-Contemporary/dp/0958454981

Product Description
A fascinating, well illustrated and thoroughly documented response to
the relentless anti-Christian propaganda that has been generated by
Muslim and marxist groups and by Hollywood film makers. "Slavery,
Terrorsim and Islam" is an eye opening, positive and practical handbook
to empower you to respond effectively to the challenge of Islam today.

Hiccum Blurpaedius

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:59:18 AM12/23/09
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On Dec 23, 1:53 am, Fred Exley <fexley...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> But it's not.

you fucking capitalist piece of shit

Exterminate the christian jew cop government.

Tax the church

JoeRaisin

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Dec 23, 2009, 7:12:11 AM12/23/09
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Hiccum Blurpaedius wrote:

> Tax the church

Well, you've finally said something I agree with.

Bob

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Dec 23, 2009, 7:32:18 AM12/23/09
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Fred Exley wrote:
>
>
> Product Description A fascinating, well illustrated and thoroughly
> documented response to the relentless anti-Christian propaganda that
> has been generated by Muslim and marxist groups and by Hollywood film
> makers. "Slavery, Terrorsim and Islam" is an eye opening, positive
> and practical handbook to empower you to respond effectively to the
> challenge of Islam today.

Pot Kettle Black

Interesting watching piece loving Judeo/Christians cringing behind
dissipating wealth gleaned from slavery and industrialization - while
the panic of 'global warming' swings the pendulum of affordable self
righteousness over to Islam.


Bob

JoeRaisin

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Dec 23, 2009, 9:14:26 AM12/23/09
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A bit confused about your point.

Are you saying that the points asserted in the article are false, that
they are true but justified or that they are true but would only be of
concern if they were being done by Jews or Christians?

I am also at a loss as to where 'Global Warming' comes in as it wasn't
referred to in the article.

F.H.

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:34:00 AM12/23/09
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Fred Exley wrote:
> But it's not.
> Islam Explained in Laymans Terms
>
>
> Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country
> to agitate for their religious privileges. When politically correct,
> tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for
> their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep
> in as well.

<snip>

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/demographics.asp

F.H.

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:37:42 AM12/23/09
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LOL, primate history is ugly, ain't it. All a bunch of murdering
bastids (except for my lineage of course).

Fred Exley

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:58:02 AM12/23/09
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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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That snopes article refers to a half-assed 'alarmist' YouTube video, not
this book. Even so, it was at worst 'mostly false' in their estimate.
This book, including the above paragraph is fact-based, well researched, and
accurate.


Fred Exley

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:05:21 PM12/23/09
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"Bob" <nos...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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> Fred Exley wrote:
>>
>>
>> Product Description A fascinating, well illustrated and thoroughly
>> documented response to the relentless anti-Christian propaganda that
>> has been generated by Muslim and marxist groups and by Hollywood film
>> makers. "Slavery, Terrorsim and Islam" is an eye opening, positive
>> and practical handbook to empower you to respond effectively to the
>> challenge of Islam today.
>
> Pot Kettle Black


Mostly innocuous Pot; mostly murderous Kettle.


jimbo

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:24:24 PM12/23/09
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On Dec 23, 11:58 am, "Fred Exley" <fexley...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net> wrote in message

jimbo

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:27:35 PM12/23/09
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On Dec 23, 11:58 am, "Fred Exley" <fexley...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> This book, including the above paragraph is fact-based, well researched, and
> accurate.

Mark Steyn wrote an article in Maclean's magazine on this topic and he
ended up having to defend his article before the Human Rights
Commission. The opponents of his article did not dispute his numbers
but rather claimed that publishing it was a racist act.

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/books/article.jsp?content=20061023_134898_134898

F.H.

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:11:06 PM12/23/09
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And you can say this with confidence because of your established
credentials in world and religious history enables you, like
evangelistic missionary *Dr* Peter Hammond (Doctorate in Missiology and
honorary Doctorate of Divinity) to quickly recognize the "relentless
anti-Christian propaganda that has been generated by Muslim and Marxist
groups and by Hollywood film makers?" (Heh, those darn Hollywood film
makers again)

Other recommended books by brother Hammond are "The Pink Agenda"
(exposing the truth about homosexual behaviour and its links to crime),
and "Power of Prayer Handbook."

Better yet, immerse yourself further in the unbiased, "fact-based, well
researched, and accurate" works of brother Hammond by signing up for his
'Biblical Worldview Seminar and Great Commission Course' to mobilize
Churches to comprehensively apply the Lordship of Christ to all areas of
life and to fulfill the *Great* *Commission*.

http://www.williamcareybi.com/

FWIW, apparently, the "Great Commission," like Islam for /it's/
adherents, has been involved in some "relentless" /pro/ "Christian
propaganda." "So it goes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Commission_Movement

Fred Exley

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:35:01 PM12/23/09
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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for all the red herrings. Now, look about you at the countries
mentioned, and their % muslim populations. Any major factual errors there?
I double-checked one of them, that the U.S. muslim population is a mere .6%.
That seemed low to me, because it's a lot higher in Irvine, not counting my
'mostly peaceful' ex-neighbor who stabbed to death his wife and
mother-in-law for not behaving properly (he lives elsewhere now). It's
currently .8% according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Muslim_population Hardly
negates the article, nor does whatever other interests the author has. If a
gay person wrote a factual article about homophobic bigots, by your logic we
must dismiss the article.

What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must jump to
protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs, and at the same time take
every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?


Bob

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:57:10 PM12/23/09
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You conveniently forgot the Christian Crusades, Inquisition, Salem witch
hunting, your very own economy (In God we trust) being founded with
slavery on stolen land - let alone more contemporary USAn murders -
Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. eminently justifying USAn nomination as
"The Great Satan"

A vastly wider world than Islam already recognizes USAn self
righteousness is no longer affordable. You would probably be crushed
already had China not monopolized your indebtedness for a purpose as yet
unrevealed.

Interesting times, indeed.

PS: Your so called 'thoroughly documented' is so reminiscent of the
selective 'research' of Ken Ragge and Agent Orange it would be funny;
were it not so sad.

Bob

Tex

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:59:26 PM12/23/09
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:35:01 -0800, "Fred Exley"
<fexl...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must jump to
>protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs, and at the same time take
>every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?

This is funny..... What is the threshold of a lethal religion to make
it worthy of slamming?

Far less lethal... Hah ha!

That's about like a 7oz Coors drinker making one less of a drunk
driver than a 12oz Coors drinker.

All lethal religions are worthy of slamming in my book even if one is
less or more lethal than the other. Zero tolerance! Do away with all
lethal religions!

And hang the lethal non-believers right along side them too. Hah ha!

Really it ain't the religions dat is lethal... it's the people ...
peoples is a lethal type critter and more so when they bunch up!

Skinny scrawny 14 year old goes into the corner market ... owner goes
git out of here! Six scrawny 14 year olds goes into the corner market
... owner goes 'fuck me'!

Bob

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:02:47 PM12/23/09
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/demographics.asp

"The notion that "Christendom" (primarily western Europe, but also North
America) is in danger of being overwhelmed within a few generations by
Muslim immigrants with comparatively high birth rates (while the natives
of the countries they are
emigrating to are reproducing at or below mere replacement level) has
been a common topic of western press articles in the last several years.
However, such articles (and examples like the video linked above) often
suffer from flaws that tip them more towards being alarmist rather than
accurate and sober analyses: They cherry pick and exaggerate a few
gloomy-sounding statistics without presenting them within a larger
context, they assume that current demographic trends will remain static
even in the face of future political, economic or social changes, and
they don't acknowledge that fertility rates are influenced by a number
of complex, interrelated, and volatile factors."

Crikey, Fred! Snopes assertion, "and examples like the video linked
above" explaining how the video is but one example of common spin
escaped your own selective research?

F.H.

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:22:46 PM12/23/09
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Speaking of Red Herrings?

And this proves what exactly? Biased by sample?
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/biased-sample.html

> Hardly negates the article, nor does whatever other interests the author has.

Bias is a vital component to fear mongering.


> If a gay person wrote a factual article about homophobic bigots, by your logic we
> must dismiss the article.

No, /we/ would draw attention to the likelihood of bias. Is it possible
to write an article about "homophobic bigots" *without* bias?

> What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must jump to
> protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs,

LOL, "liberals and Islam?" "Murderous gang of thugs?" Guilt by
selective association? Negative stereotyping?

> and at the same time take every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?

"Every opportunity?" "Less lethal?" What are you saying here Fred, that
/all/ religions are lethal? Just a matter of degrees?


F.H.

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:24:44 PM12/23/09
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Tex wrote:
>
> Really it ain't the religions dat is lethal... it's the people ...
> peoples is a lethal type critter and more so when they bunch up!

And if history, biology and psychology are any guides............

"The man who is a pessimist before forty-eight knows too much; if he is
an optimist after it he knows too little."

Mark Twain

Tex

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:35:08 PM12/23/09
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:24:44 -0800, "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net>
wrote:


If his moms didn't have a lisp ... it would be Mark Train!

Mark Warner

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Dec 23, 2009, 6:21:06 PM12/23/09
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Fred Exley wrote:
>
> Any major factual errors there?
> I double-checked one of them, that the U.S. muslim population is a mere .6%.
> That seemed low to me, because it's a lot higher in Irvine, not counting my
> 'mostly peaceful' ex-neighbor who stabbed to death his wife and
> mother-in-law for not behaving properly (he lives elsewhere now). It's
> currently .8% according to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Muslim_population

That's a 25% or 33% error, depending on how you care to look at it.
Close enough, I suppose.

--
Mark Warner
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Sharx35

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"Bob" <nos...@invalid.net> wrote in message

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What a fucking pile of bullshit! Coming from an asshole in a country,
Australia, which is joining China as a major censurer of the Net.


>

Fred Exley

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"Mark Warner" <markwarner195...@att.net> wrote in message
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> Fred Exley wrote:
>>
>> Any major factual errors there? I double-checked one of them, that the
>> U.S. muslim population is a mere .6%. That seemed low to me, because it's
>> a lot higher in Irvine, not counting my 'mostly peaceful' ex-neighbor who
>> stabbed to death his wife and mother-in-law for not behaving properly (he
>> lives elsewhere now). It's currently .8% according to
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Muslim_population
>
> That's a 25% or 33% error, depending on how you care to look at it. Close
> enough, I suppose.

Or a 25% to 33% growth rate, depending on when the samples were taken.
Jesus, see how fast they're growing?


Bob

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By John L Esposito

"American Muslims are not only integrating into the social fabric of the
US but some, like Keith Ellison, the Democratic Congressman for
Minnesota, are participating in the political system [EPA]

The recent arrest of five young Northern Virginia men in Pakistan on
suspicion of terrorist activities has precipitated dire warnings.

Some charge that there is now an emerging pattern which challenges
long-held assumptions that European Muslims are more susceptible to
radicalisation than better-assimilated Muslims in the US.

This charge clearly leads us in the wrong direction. While there must be
zero tolerance for terrorists, it is important to remember that the
American Muslim community is a valued and much needed partner in
countering extremism.

Just as Muslim countries differ significantly from each other and in
their relations with the US so too do Muslims in Europe and America
differ markedly.

The majority of European Muslims have been labourers and blue collar
workers, educationally and economically disadvantaged, and often
socially marginalised. In contrast, the vast majority of American
Muslims came to the US with an education and skills or acquired the
degrees and abilities they needed to become more integrated.

American Muslims reject extremism

While some pockets of poverty exist in the US, unlike Europe, there are
no "Muslim ghettos" in America. A 2007 Pew Research Center study found
that most Muslim Americans are "decidedly American" in income, education
and attitudes, rejecting extremism by larger margins than Muslim
minorities in Europe.

Similarly, a 2009 Gallup report found that 70 per cent of American
Muslims have a job compared with a national average of 64 per cent.
Muslim men have one of the highest employment rates of religious groups;
Muslim women are as likely as Catholic women to say that they work.

After Jews, Muslims are the most educated religious community in the US.
Muslim women (unlike their Jewish counterparts) are as likely as their
male counterparts to have a college degree or higher. Forty per cent of
American Muslim women have a college degree as compared to 29 per cent
of Americans overall.

American Muslims are as concerned about extremism and terrorism as other
citizens. Their families and friends in "the old country" have been the
primary victims of terrorist attacks. Like other Americans, Muslims were
also victims; they too lost loved ones and friends in the 9/11 attacks.

Moreover, they have seen their religion, not just the terrorists,
vilified and as a result those in the mainstream majority have been
victims of profiling, discrimination and hate crimes.

Major civil liberties organisations have identified a host of serious
abuses including racial profiling; overzealous and illegal arrests and
detentions, surveillance, and wiretapping of Muslims, undercover
infiltration of Muslim civic and religious organisations and trials
using "secret evidence".

Yet, despite these extreme measures, as the FBI and Homeland Security
have stressed, the majority of Muslims remain an integrated part of the
American mosaic; many of their religious and community leaders and
organisations work to fight extremism by co-operating and continuing to
work with government agencies.

Families turn in suspects

It is important to stress that the families of the five men accused in
Virginia were the ones who reported them to the authorities.

What about the four other cases reported in the media in the past year?

Esposito says many Muslims co-operate to combat extremism [GALLO/GETTY]
In addition to the Northern Virginia case, four previous arrests last
year are cited: Najibullah Zazi, the Denver airport shuttle driver
charged with testing explosives for an attack; Bryant N Vinas, an
Hispanic American convert, who pleaded guilty to receiving training from
al-Qaeda in Pakistan; David C. Headley, a suspect in the November 2008
terrorist attacks in Mumbai; and the Minnesota American Somali youths
accused of joining an Islamist insurgency in Somalia.

Each of these cases is unconnected to other cases; each involves a very
small number of radicalised individuals with no apparent connection to
domestic al-Qaeda networks.

It is useful to remember that a leaked February 2005 FBI internal memo
admitted that the FBI had not identified a single al-Qaeda sleeper cell
in the US. Almost nine years since 9/11, no al-Qaeda related terrorist
networks have been discovered in America.

Moreover, in a Muslim population estimated at 4-6 million, the number of
arrests and convictions for terrorism has been very small. Of course,
this does not detract from the ongoing need to remain vigilant and guard
against potential domestic terrorist attacks.

Seeds of radicalisation

Home grown extremism must be aggressively contained by law enforcement
agencies, but done without brush-stroking local Muslim communities that
notify and co-operate with them. In addition, the conditions that
contribute to radicalisation and recruitment must also be addressed.

Like other American ethnic and religious groups, many Muslims do
identify with unjust or oppressive conditions in their ancestral land or
with the plight of other Muslims globally in Bosnia, Kosovo, Palestine,
Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Pakistan, Chechnya and China (Uighurs).

A critical distinction has to be made between those that are nationalist
struggles and those that are terrorist, between those that constitute a
direct threat to the US and those that do not. In recent years, Irish
and Jewish Americans have supported and some even fought in wars in
Northern Ireland and Israel. Few if any have been prosecuted.

We must also distinguish between what are seen as struggles against
injustice versus acts of terrorism. Most American Muslims, like their
fellow citizens, express opposition non-violently.

A very small minority, like some Somali American youths, may be
attracted to fight against what they perceive as illegitimate,
oppressive governments and their supporters: whether they are Ethiopian,
American, British, Russian or Nato forces.

The primary target of the accused in all of these cases has not been the
US; their focus has been international.

Not surprisingly, foreign struggles and the US' extended presence (now
and possible permanent bases in the future) are exploited by jihadist
ideology and jihadist Internet sites.

But as we have seen so far, the end product is not a well trained and
equipped warrior with broad support at home but naive and misguided
wanna-be jihadists."

John L Esposito is a professor of Religion and International Affairs,
professor of Islamic Studies and founding director of the Prince
Alwaleed bin Talal Centre for Muslim-Christian Understanding at the
Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University.

He is the editor-in-chief of the six-volume The Oxford Encyclopedia of
the Islamic World, and has written more than 35 books, including 'Who
Speaks for Islam?', 'What a Billion Muslims Really Think', and 'The
Future of Islam'.

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2009/12/2009121784234277996.html

Kai R

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Fred Exley kirjoitti:

>
> What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must jump to
> protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs, and at the same time take
> every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?
>

WEll, no wonder you're so sour, what with living in world inhabited by
over one billion "murderous thugs"...

--
Kai

Fred Exley

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Dec 26, 2009, 1:01:50 PM12/26/09
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We're working on it. Now, how on earth did Joe Sour himself, with a log
of sourness clouding his vision, muster the audacity to note the speck
in others? Finland wrote the Bible of sour living:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE53D4IU20090414


Fred Exley

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Dec 26, 2009, 1:30:41 PM12/26/09
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Bob wrote:
> By John L Esposito
>
>
>
> "American Muslims are not only integrating into the social fabric of the
> US but some, like Keith Ellison, the Democratic Congressman for
> Minnesota, are participating in the political system [EPA]
>
> The recent arrest of five young Northern Virginia men in Pakistan on
> suspicion of terrorist activities has precipitated dire warnings.
>
> Some charge that there is now an emerging pattern which challenges
> long-held assumptions that European Muslims are more susceptible to
> radicalisation than better-assimilated Muslims in the US.
>
> This charge clearly leads us in the wrong direction. While there must be
> zero tolerance for terrorists, it is important to remember that the
> American Muslim community is a valued and much needed partner in
> countering extremism.
>
> Just as Muslim countries differ significantly from each other and in
> their relations with the US so too do Muslims in Europe and America
> differ markedly.
>
> The majority of European Muslims have been labourers and blue collar
> workers, educationally and economically disadvantaged, and often
> socially marginalised. In contrast, the vast majority of American
> Muslims came to the US with an education and skills or acquired the
> degrees and abilities they needed to become more integrated.

Just like the 9/11 hijackers, who studied engineering at first-world
universities abroad, then diligently acquired the aviation skills and
abilities needed to become more integrated here.

> American Muslims reject extremism
>
> While some pockets of poverty exist in the US, unlike Europe, there are
> no "Muslim ghettos" in America.

The author must have never heard of the tiny city of Detroit, home of
the second-largest Arab community outside the Middle East, after Paris.


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1925796,00.html

A 2007 Pew Research Center study found
> that most Muslim Americans are "decidedly American" in income, education
> and attitudes, rejecting extremism by larger margins than Muslim
> minorities in Europe.

That's how yet another of my fellow Irvine residents was too. Until,
one day he drove up to the Los Angeles airport and did a silly thing.
Liberals are *still* wondering what on earth got into him:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/07/04/la.airport.shooting/

Face it Bob, this whole article is nothing more than wishful thinking by
an ivory tower -and highly biased -professor of International Affairs
and Islamic Studies at Georgetown University. Dream on, but don't look
outside that ivory tower...


F.H.

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I was absent from school (probably at the beach) the day they had math.
Would you please do the calculations /for/ me. Divide the number of
crazies you noted (throw in a few more if you like) into one billion and
give me the percentages required to push one into the 'lynch them all'
mode (including those naive 'liberals' that can't seem to grasp the real
time threat quotient).

RonG

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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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The numbers may be minuscule in comparison to the overall population of
Muslims in the world, but it seems to me that most of the terrorist
activities and conflicts that are ongoing in the world today can be
directly tied to one sect or another of Muslims. This is not to say that
those muslims engaged in these activities are completely at fault,
however, what would the world be like today if all of these muslim
factions, put down their arms, ended their terroist attacks, settled
decades old grudges and worked out peaceful compromises with their
adversaries?

RonG

F.H.

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What all terrorists and all religions have in common is their basic
nature, that they are a life form that seems predisposed to conquering
in a never ending game of survival of the fittest. There is never a
shortage of motives for killing. Not since the beginning of time, not now.

"It doesn't matter whether the cultural hero-system is frankly magical,
religious, and primitive or secular, scientific, and civilized. It is
still a mythical hero-system in which people serve in order to earn a
feeling of primary value, of cosmic specialness, of ultimate usefulness
to creation."

Ernest Becker

Bob

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Dec 26, 2009, 5:53:07 PM12/26/09
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Crikey, don't let Obama and Tara read that - they like to think Osama
trained that lot.

>
>
>
>> American Muslims reject extremism
>>
>> While some pockets of poverty exist in the US, unlike Europe, there
>> are no "Muslim ghettos" in America.
>
> The author must have never heard of the tiny city of Detroit, home of
> the second-largest Arab community outside the Middle East, after
> Paris.
>
> http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1925796,00.html

Too funny Fred - your chosen author is sadly bemoaning the perception
Detroit is *not* a ghetto!

"Detroit has to shrink its footprint, even if it means condemning decent
houses in the gap-toothed areas and moving their occupants to compact
neighborhoods where they might find a modicum of security and service."
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1925796,00.html

>
>
> A 2007 Pew Research Center study found
>> that most Muslim Americans are "decidedly American" in income,
>> education and attitudes, rejecting extremism by larger margins than
>> Muslim minorities in Europe.
>
> That's how yet another of my fellow Irvine residents was too. Until,
> one day he drove up to the Los Angeles airport and did a silly
> thing. Liberals are *still* wondering what on earth got into him:
>
> http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/07/04/la.airport.shooting/

Jeez, do people ever call you, "non-sequitur Fred."?

snip


> Dream on, but don't look outside that ivory tower...
>
>

Irony is more fun when both sides can see it. :(

Not to worry, a fulfilled Festivus to you and yours, and may the new
year bring you, if nothing else, many tubs of icecream to share with bro
Frank

--
Too many ingredients in the soup, no room for a spoon. ... Ray Banana

F.H.

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Dec 26, 2009, 7:50:28 PM12/26/09
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Bob wrote:
> Fred Exley wrote:

>> Just like the 9/11 hijackers, who studied engineering at first-world
>> universities abroad, then diligently acquired the aviation skills
>> and abilities needed to become more integrated here.
>
> Crikey, don't let Obama and Tara read that - they like to think Osama
> trained that lot.

>> Dream on, but don't look outside that ivory tower...


>>
>>
> Irony is more fun when both sides can see it. :(
>
> Not to worry, a fulfilled Festivus to you and yours, and may the new
> year bring you, if nothing else, many tubs of icecream to share with bro
> Frank

Make that Brer Frank. :)

Speaking of 9/11, I did not know until very recently that thermite could
be mixed in paint and then applied to steel and, apparently, it does not
have an expiration period.

Nano-thermite was found in the dust from the 9/11 catastrophe. Unlike
standard thermite, it does not just burn extremely hot, it is explosive.

Nano-thermite, a highly engineered energetic composite was conceived
around 1990 and by 2000 it had been weaponized and was manufactured in
large quantities in top secret military laboratories.

If one is disinclined to trust FEMA (the weather catastrophe folks) or
NIST (the weights and measure folks) there are others who have studied
the collapse of the towers and building seven.

One can download a /legitimate/ scientific analysis of the dust here:

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
http://tinyurl.com/de6448

It is complex but if you make it to page 15 it starts to warm up (no pun):

"The evidence for active, highly energetic thermitic material in the WTC
dust is compelling."

Further warming on page 19:

Could the Red Material Be Unreacted �Super-Thermite�?

"We have noted that ordinary thermite acts as an incendiary when
ignited. However, when the ingredients are ultra fine-grain and are
intimately mixed, the mixture reacts very rapidly, even explosively
[20]. Thus, there is a highly energetic form of thermite known as an
energetic nanocomposite or �super-thermite."


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"Fred Exley" <fexl...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Anyone who runs from a sauna into freezing water WOULD be sour!

Kai R

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RonG kirjoitti:

> The numbers may be minuscule in comparison to the overall population of
> Muslims in the world, but it seems to me that most of the terrorist
> activities and conflicts that are ongoing in the world today can be
> directly tied to one sect or another of Muslims.

Really? Now let's have a look at the situation over here in Europe
which, like Fred here has demontrated, is far further down the path to
destruction due to muslim population. Luckily, we have this handy
Europol entity to report on things like this.

http://www.europol.europa.eu/publications/EU_Terrorism_Situation_and_Trend_Report_TE-SAT/TESAT2009.pdf

"Figure 2: Number of failed, foiled or successful attacks in 2008 per
member state and per affiliation"

Total: 515
Islamist: 0, zero, null, none

--
Kai

Kai R

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:31:44 AM12/27/09
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Fred Exley kirjoitti:

> Kai R wrote:
>> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>>>
>>> What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must
>>> jump to protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs, and at the
>>> same time take every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?
>>>
>>
>> WEll, no wonder you're so sour, what with living in world inhabited by
>> over one billion "murderous thugs"...
>
> We're working on it.

Right. So your plan is to kill over one million muslims because they're
"murderous thugs"?

> Now, how on earth did Joe Sour himself, with a log
> of sourness clouding his vision, muster the audacity to note the speck
> in others? Finland wrote the Bible of sour living:
> http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE53D4IU20090414
>

May be, but I still don't think pretty much everyone else except me and
the few folks who think like me are murderous thugs. What is it with you
so-called "libertarians" that makes you so vulnerable to xenophobia?

--
Kai

Kai R

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Dec 27, 2009, 8:33:33 AM12/27/09
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Kai R kirjoitti:

> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>> Kai R wrote:
>>> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>>>>
>>>> What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must
>>>> jump to protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs, and at the
>>>> same time take every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?
>>>>
>>>
>>> WEll, no wonder you're so sour, what with living in world inhabited
>>> by over one billion "murderous thugs"...
>>
>> We're working on it.
>
> Right. So your plan is to kill over one million muslims because they're
> "murderous thugs"?

Over one billion, not million.

--
Kai

JoeRaisin

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Dec 27, 2009, 9:06:23 AM12/27/09
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And yet the evidence for Muslim leadership approved extremism is not.

You kill me Frank...

F.H.

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Sorry Mr. either/or but I did not say or imply that.

> You kill me Frank...

The /problem/ is not me.

Fred Exley

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Congratulations on a good year. The USA can claim the same stellar year of
peace, brotherhood and progress -er, until this week anyway.
But if anybody is naive enough to think that's a *trend*, they're in for a
big surprise.


RonG

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"Fred Exley" <fexl...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Not counted are attempts that were thwarted and nipped in the bud
throughout the world.

RonG

Kai R

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Dec 27, 2009, 4:36:16 PM12/27/09
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RonG kirjoitti:

>
> "Fred Exley" <fexl...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:_TNZm.1826$Iz5...@newsfe05.iad...
>>
>> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7posef...@mid.individual.net...
>>> RonG kirjoitti:
>>>> The numbers may be minuscule in comparison to the overall population
>>>> of Muslims in the world, but it seems to me that most of the
>>>> terrorist activities and conflicts that are ongoing in the world
>>>> today can be directly tied to one sect or another of Muslims.
>>>
>>> Really? Now let's have a look at the situation over here in Europe
>>> which, like Fred here has demontrated, is far further down the path
>>> to destruction due to muslim population. Luckily, we have this handy
>>> Europol entity to report on things like this.
>>>
>>> http://www.europol.europa.eu/publications/EU_Terrorism_Situation_and_Trend_Report_TE-SAT/TESAT2009.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> "Figure 2: Number of failed, foiled or successful attacks in 2008 per
>>> member state and per affiliation"
>>>
>>> Total: 515
>>> Islamist: 0, zero, null, none
>>>
>>
>> Congratulations on a good year. The USA can claim the same stellar
>> year of peace, brotherhood and progress -er, until this week anyway.
>> But if anybody is naive enough to think that's a *trend*, they're in
>> for a big surprise.
>>
> Not counted are attempts that were thwarted and nipped in the bud
> throughout the world.
>

So the command of English language is not your strong point either? In
addition to knowledge about terrorism in the world, that is. The
statistics of Europol specifically mention that "counted" are all
"failed, foiled or successful attacks". To my knowledge, "foiled" means
more or less exactly the same as your "thwarted and nipped in the bud"...

--
Kai

RonG

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In glancing through your reference report, I noted, perhaps incorrectly
that the report only covered basically one year and Europe only. It did
not encompass the whole world. Take a brief tour through the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

RonG

Kai R

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Dec 27, 2009, 5:47:52 PM12/27/09
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RonG kirjoitti:

> In glancing through your reference report, I noted, perhaps incorrectly
> that the report only covered basically one year and Europe only. It did
> not encompass the whole world. Take a brief tour through the following:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
>

If you only search for islamic terrorism, that is what you will find.
That's how the search engines tend to work.

--
Kai

RonG

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And how, may I ask, is this search on islamic terroism any different
than the islamic terroism addressed in your European report? If you go
back and read my initial post in this thread, I was addressing the
"whole" world and not just Europe, unless of course you think that
Europe is the whole world.

RonG

Kai R

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Dec 27, 2009, 6:32:58 PM12/27/09
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RonG kirjoitti:

>
> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7pq6go...@mid.individual.net...
>> RonG kirjoitti:
>>
>>> In glancing through your reference report, I noted, perhaps
>>> incorrectly that the report only covered basically one year and
>>> Europe only. It did not encompass the whole world. Take a brief tour
>>> through the following:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
>>>
>>
>> If you only search for islamic terrorism, that is what you will find.
>> That's how the search engines tend to work.
>>
>
> And how, may I ask, is this search on islamic terroism any different
> than the islamic terroism addressed in your European report?

Umm, which islamic terrorism do you refer to in the Europol report? The
number of "failed, foiled and successful" islamic terrorist attacks was
zero in 2008. What I meant is that if you only go to a wikipedia article
titled "islamic terrorism", it may indeed be possible to get the idea
all terrorism is islamic. But in truth, that is not the case.

> If you go
> back and read my initial post in this thread, I was addressing the
> "whole" world and not just Europe, unless of course you think that
> Europe is the whole world.
>

No, I'm not confusing Europe with the whole world, but I do insist it is
a part of the world. In Europe, which according to Fred is at the verge
of collapse due to the number of muslims in here, there were no islamic
terror acts in 2008. In 2006 there was one foiled attempt, that was all.

We did have, however, 515 terror attacks and attempts in 2008 of
motivation *other than islamic*. Now how does that fit with your claim
that "most of the terrorist activities" in the world are related to
islamic faith? But hey, feel free to show some stats from the world to
back your claim. I showed stats from my area and they do not support
your stance. Now it�s your turn.

--
Kai

JoeRaisin

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Dec 27, 2009, 6:38:09 PM12/27/09
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LOL

No you didn't - you never would

>> You kill me Frank...
>
> The /problem/ is not me.
>

Where did I ever you were a problem?

RonG

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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a.. 26 February 1993 - World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6
killed.
b.. 13 March 1993 - 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. The
single-day attacks resulted in over 250 civilian fatalities and 700
injuries.
c.. 28 July 1994 - Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing
attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation,
leaves 85 dead and more than 300 injured.
d.. 24 December 1994 - Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by
3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7
killed including 4 hijackers.
e.. 25 June 1996 - Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
f.. 14 February 1998. The 1998 Coimbatore bombings occurred in the
city of Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 46 people were killed and over
200 were injured in 13 bomb attacks within a 12 km radius.
g.. 7 August 1998 - 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania
and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.
h.. 4 September 1999 - A series of bombing attacks in several cities
of Russia, kills near 300 people.
i.. 12 October 2000 - Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of
Aden.
j.. 11 September 2001 - 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade
Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[132]
k.. 13 December 2001 - Suicide attack on India's parliament in New
Delhi. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing
anarchy in the country. Allegedly done by Pakistan-based Islamist
terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba.
l.. 27 March 2002 - Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel
in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured
m.. 7 May 2002 - Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
n.. 24 September 2002 - Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in
Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[133][134]
o.. 12 October 2002 - Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300
injured.[135]
p.. 16 May 2003 - Casablanca Attacks - 4 simultaneous attacks in
Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafaia
Jihadia.
q.. 11 March 2004 - Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain.
191 killed, 1460 injured. (alleged link to Al-Qaeda)
r.. 1 September 2004 Approximately 344 civilians including 186
children, are killed during the Beslan school hostage crisis.[136][137]
s.. 2 November 2004 - Ritual murder of Theo van Gogh (film director)
by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.
t.. 4 February 2005 - Muslim militants attacked the Christian
community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and
displacing an additional 3000 people.
u.. 7 July 2005 - Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed
by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
v.. 23 July 2005 - Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort
city, at least 64 people killed.
w.. 29 October 2005 - 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60
killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded
markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[138]
x.. 9 November 2005 - 2005 Amman bombings. Over 60 killed and 115
injured, in a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman,
Jordan.[139][140] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were
involved.[141]
y.. 7 March 2006 - 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. An attack attributed
to Lashkar-e-Taiba by Uttar Pradesh government officials, over 28 killed
and over 100 injured, in a series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan
Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of
Varanasi.[142] Uttar Pradesh government officials.
z.. 11 July 2006. Mumbai, India. 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings
were a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11
minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay).
209 people lost their lives and over 700 were injured in the attacks.
aa.. 14 August 2007. Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers
massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the
deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.
ab.. 26 July 2008. Ahmedabad, India. Islamic militants detonate at
least 16 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital,
leaving at least 49 dead and 160 injured. A Muslim group calling itself
the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe
that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely
responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence[143].
Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of
militants suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a
well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India[144].
ac.. 13 September 2008. Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant
bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at
Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around
30 people dead, followed by another attack two weeks later at the
congested Mehrauli area, leaving 2 people dead.
ad.. 26 November 2008. Mumbai, India. Muslim extremists kill at least
174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks
on India's largest city and financial capital. A group calling itself
the Deccan Mujaheddin claims responsibility, however, the government of
India suspects Islamic militants based in Pakistan are responsible.
Ajmal Kasab, one of the militants, was caught alive.[145][146]
ae.. 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two
bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people
and injuring 520.
af.. 28 October 2009. Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a
woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 die with 200 or more
injured.
ag.. 3 December 2009. Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber
disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was
hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast
went off, killing four government ministers as well as other
civilians.[147]

Kai R

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:03:18 PM12/27/09
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RonG kirjoitti:
>
> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> No, I'm not confusing Europe with the whole world, but I do insist it
>> is a part of the world. In Europe, which according to Fred is at the
>> verge of collapse due to the number of muslims in here, there were no
>> islamic terror acts in 2008. In 2006 there was one foiled attempt,
>> that was all.
>>
>> We did have, however, 515 terror attacks and attempts in 2008 of
>> motivation *other than islamic*. Now how does that fit with your claim
>> that "most of the terrorist activities" in the world are related to
>> islamic faith? But hey, feel free to show some stats from the world to
>> back your claim. I showed stats from my area and they do not support
>> your stance. Now it�s your turn.
>>
> a.. 26 February 1993 - World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6
> killed.

[snip]

Like I said, if your only source is titled "islamic terrorism" you're
not going find much evidence for anything else...

--
Kai

RonG

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:09:01 PM12/27/09
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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I should have said "many of the terrorist..." instead of "most of the
terrorist..." For that I stand corrected.

RonG

Sharx35

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:55:02 PM12/27/09
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"RonG" <r...@network12.com> wrote in message
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Euro "metrosexuals" will continue to defend Islamic terrorists until Hell
freezes over. Period. And they will continue to attack Israel's right to
peace and security, too.


>

Fred Exley

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's a well researched and written article, Kai, but your interpretation
of it is idiotic. They didn't go away, buddy -they're reloading.


F.H.

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:09:50 PM12/27/09
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I'm reminded of visiting my former son in-law at Fort Carson and seeing
the posters noting that "the only good communist is a dead communist."

F.H.

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:28:36 PM12/27/09
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The evidence that your comments have special meaning only to /you/ is
compelling.

> you never would

LOL, "you never?" I /always/ love it when you present your feminine
tactics. ;)

Antlion

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Dec 27, 2009, 11:11:17 PM12/27/09
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On 12/26/2009 5:32 AM, Kai R wrote:
> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>>
>> What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must
>> jump to protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs, and at the
>> same time take every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?
>>
>
> WEll, no wonder you're so sour, what with living in world inhabited by
> over one billion "murderous thugs"...
>
hey...............wrong question??????what is it with u..........dare u
ask a question..........supposed to be a vege.......break down and
flow...................................so how do i get to talk real
time.....iz'll mean an inmfinity to vegetables likke us..................

Antlion

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Dec 27, 2009, 11:16:29 PM12/27/09
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On 12/26/2009 5:32 AM, Kai R wrote:
> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>>
>> What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must
>> jump to protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs, and at the
>> same time take every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?
>>
>
> WEll, no wonder you're so sour, what with living in world inhabited by
> over one billion "murderous thugs"............
>
u see ur daddy shot...........did u get screwed.....at 6 are u a
girl............................man up.................my mo
was.............my p was god......he walked down to earth...he didnt
understand that hed hear something as stu[id as paul \simon
whole............................helllsllllllllllll,....................bormn
at thre rifgt whAT........ASTAPLE SOME DaMN .............

Antlion

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Dec 27, 2009, 11:18:15 PM12/27/09
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On 12/26/2009 5:32 AM, Kai R wrote:
> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>>
>> What is with the liberals and Islam anyway, that they feel they must
>> jump to protect and respect this murderous gang of thugs, and at the
>> same time take every opportunity to slam a far less lethal religion?
>>
>
> WEll, no wonder you're so sour, what with living in world inhabited by
> over one billion "murderous thugs"...
>
WHAT ARE U....................HOW DO U SPELL VOOTRACKERE

Antlion

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> time.....iz'll mean an inmfinity to vegetables likke us.................i whant to meet the man that ive BECOME..........HES not the
man that i would borrow shit from..............i wood trust him
thou....................................

Fred Exley

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> RonG kirjoitti:
>>
>> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> No, I'm not confusing Europe with the whole world, but I do insist it is
>>> a part of the world. In Europe, which according to Fred is at the verge
>>> of collapse due to the number of muslims in here,

Liar! I never said anything remotely like that. The article I posted
pointed out the greater the percentage muslim population, the greater the
level of terrorist violence. It happens to be true.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2009.12.27 Pakistan Sadda 6 0 Islamic fundamentalists blow up a family
home, killing six occupants.
2009.12.27 Thailand Yala 2 1 Islamists shoot two men to death as they
are riding a motorcycle.
2009.12.27 Pakistan Muzaffarabad 11 50 A Shahid suicide bomber blows
himself up at a rival mosque, taking at least eleven innocents with him.
2009.12.26 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A man is murdered in front of his home
by Muslim separatists.
2009.12.26 Pakistan Karachi 0 26 Shiite radicals are suspected of
detonating a roadside bomb that injures some twenty-six people at a funeral.
2009.12.26 Iraq Baghdad 6 22 Two bombs, one near a tent distributing
food to Shia pilgrims, leave six Iraqis dead.
2009.12.25 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Islamists gun down two local cops.
2009.12.25 Iraq Baghdad 10 51 Ten Shiite pilgrims are murdered in
three separate bombing attacks by sectarian rivals.
2009.12.25 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three unarmed census workers are shot to
death in cold blood by Sunni insurgents.
2009.12.24 Somalia Mogadishu 6 25 Six civilians are killed during an
attack by Hizb al-Islam fundamentalists.
2009.12.24 Afghanistan Paktika 2 0 Two civilians are murdered by
Jihadi roadside bombers.
2009.12.24 Israel Einav 1 0 An Israeli father of seven is shot to
death in his car by Palestinian terrorists.
2009.12.24 Afghanistan Kandahar 8 3 A Shahid suicide bomber on a horse
car murders eight innocent people.
2009.12.24 Iraq Hilla 25 105 A crowded bus station is the target of
Sunni bombers, who leave twenty-five Iraqis dead and nearly one hundred more
in agony.
2009.12.24 Iraq Baghdad 12 53 Jihadis murder a dozen mourners when
they bomb two separate funerals.
2009.12.24 Pakistan Rawalpindi 1 2 A 6-year-old girl is dismembered by
a suicide bomber.
2009.12.24 Pakistan Peshawar 4 24 A suicide bomber detonates near a
Christian school, killing four others.
2009.12.24 Iraq Kirkuk 4 0 Four Iraqis are gunned down by suspected
al-Qaeda militants.
2009.12.23 Iraq Baghdad 5 46 Sunni bombers murder five Shia pilgrims
in three separate attacks.
2009.12.23 Afghanistan Helmand 3 5 Three innocents are cut down by a
Taliban bomb planted on a bicylce.
2009.12.23 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A bomb placed near an ancient Christian
church kills two people.
2009.12.23 Afghanistan Helmand 3 4 Three civilians are killed when
fundamentalists detonate a bomb at a bazaar.
2009.12.23 Afghanistan Spin Boldak 2 3 Talibanis take down two
civilians with a roadside bomb.
2009.12.22 Iraq Iskandariya 1 4 A civilian dies from shrapnel injures
after Jihadis detonate a bomb on a minibus.
2009.12.22 Thailand Pattani 1 1 Islamic gunmen fire into a family
home, killing a 3-year-old girl and seriously injuring her sister.
2009.12.22 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 37-year-old father is shot full of
holes by Muslim militants after dropping his children off at school.
2009.12.22 India Pampore 2 1 Hizbul Mujahideen militants shoot two
local cops to death.
2009.12.22 Pakistan Peshawar 3 16 A woman is among three people at a
press club blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.12.21 Iraq Tal Afar 4 5 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out four
Iraqis.
2009.12.21 Yemen Abyan 2 9 al-Qaeda militants booby-trap an area with
explosives, killing two civilians.
2009.12.21 Somalia Mogadishu 5 0 Five Somalis near a minibus are
murdered by al-Shabaab bombers.
2009.12.20 Somalia Mogadishu 1 3 One Somali is killed in a mortar
attack by Islamic militia.
2009.12.20 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Mujahideen gun down two local cops.
2009.12.19 Pakistan Poonch 1 2 An Indian border guard is shot by a
Muslim sniper from Pakistan.
2009.12.19 Iraq Mosul 3 1 Jihadi gunmen take down three Iraqis in
separate attacks.
2009.12.19 Thailand Narathiwat 3 2 Three Buddhists are incinerated
when Muslim insurgents blow up a gas tank next to their truck.
2009.12.18 Pakistan Haripur 3 0 A man and his wife are among three
killed in their home by suspected Islamic hardliners.
2009.12.18 India Pulwama 2 0 Two people are dragged from their homes
and murdered by Mujahideen. One has his throat slit.
2009.12.18 Iraq Sulaimaniyah 1 0 A civilian is gunned down on his
doorstep by Muslim terrorists.
2009.12.18 Somalia Mogadishu 2 4 Two civilians are killed when a
mortar fired by suspected Islamic militia strikes a house.
2009.12.18 Pakistan Lower Dir 15 28 Children are among fifteen people
blown to bits a mosque by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.12.17 Thailand Yala 2 0 A 2-year-old girl is gunned down along
with her father by Holy Warriors.
2009.12.17 Afghanistan Kandahar 7 3 Five women are among seven people
murdered by Taliban roadside bombers.
2009.12.17 Ingushetia Nazran 2 24 Children are among the casualties of
a suicide bombing. A separate shooting leaves two dead.
2009.12.17 Iraq Baghdad 1 10 A pedestrian is killed by a roadside
bomb.
2009.12.17 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian man is shot to death
in cold blood by Mujahideen.
2009.12.17 Pakistan Bara Tehsil 3 5 Three security force personnel are
murdered in Taliban ambushes.
2009.12.16 Afghanistan Herat 4 0 Four local cops are slaughtered by a
Taliban roadside blast.
2009.12.16 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 Sunni bombers take down two Iraqis riding
on a bus.
2009.12.16 Pakistan Khyber 4 27 Fundamentalists throw grenades into a
music concert, killing at least four people.
2009.12.16 Thailand Yala 3 0 Three men are shot to death in separate
shooting attacks by Islamic insurgents.
2009.12.15 Afghanistan Kabul 7 44 A suicide car bomber takes out seven
people standing outside a hotel.
2009.12.15 Pakistan Dera Ghazi Khan 33 60 Thirty-three shoppers at an
outdoor market are blown apart by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
2009.12.15 Afghanistan Helmand 2 0 Two British soldiers are killed by
a suicide bomber as they are walking down a street.
2009.12.15 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A woman is among two people incinerated by a
thermal bomb.
2009.12.15 Iraq Mosul 4 40 Four Christians are killed when Islamic
bombers target a church and Christian school.
2009.12.15 Somalia Bossasso 3 8 Suspected Islamists blow up a pick-up
full of local soldiers, killing three.
2009.12.15 Afghanistan Gardez 5 0 Five people are blown to bits by
Jihadi bombers.
2009.12.15 Iraq Nineveh 3 0 Muslim radicals throw grenades into a
police patrol, brutally killing three Iraqis.
2009.12.15 India Shopian 1 0 A 21-year-old woman is gunned down in
front of her family by Islamic militants.
2009.12.14 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two men are shot to death by Islamic
militants, one in his home, the other at a barber shop.
2009.12.14 Iraq al-Manari 4 0 A man and his family are murdered in
their home by suspected al-Qaeda.
2009.12.14 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 16 0 Sixteen police officers are
killed in two terror attacks by Sunni fundamentalists.
2009.12.14 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslims gun down a 38-year-old
Buddhist.
2009.12.14 Iraq Baghdad 13 33 Jihadi bombers take down thirteen Iraqis
with successive blasts.
2009.12.14 Iraq Balad Ruz 22 29 A female suicide bomber ends the lives
of nearly two-dozen innocent people in a residential area.
2009.12.14 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 37-year-old woman is slashed to
death by Muslim radicals.
2009.12.13 Iraq Mosul 2 21 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders two young
police recruits.
2009.12.13 Iraq Fallujah 2 15 Islamic bombers manage to kill two
Iraqis with a roadside blast.
2009.12.13 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two civilians are shot to death by
Islamic militants in separate attacks.
2009.12.13 Somalia Afgoye 1 0 A 48-year-old man is pelted to death
with stones by Hezb al-Islam for adultery.
2009.12.12 Iraq Khalis 1 2 A farmer is shot to death by Islamic
militants.
2009.12.12 Iraq Kirkuk 3 4 An IED attack leaves three Iraqis dead.
2009.12.11 Afghanistan Paktika 5 15 Five people are blown to bits by a
Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.12.11 Iraq Baghdad 1 3 Jihadis plant a bomb under a family car,
killing the father and injuring three relatives.
2009.12.11 Iraq Yusufiyah 6 21 A car bomb near a shop takes out six
Iraqis.
2009.12.10 Thailand Narathiwat 3 8 Three Buddhist women are torn to
shreds by a remote-controlled bomb planted on a motorcycle outside a
restaurant.
2009.12.09 Thailand Yala 1 17 A series of bombs rocks several
neighborhoods. A bomb disposal technician is killed.
2009.12.09 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A civilian is shot to death in his car
by Muslim militants.
2009.12.09 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two Christian brothers are kidnapped and
shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2009.12.09 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 Two streetsweepers are among four Iraqis
murdered by Islamic bombers in attacks on a library and minibus.
2009.12.08 Pal. Auth. Jerash 1 0 A man stabs his 30-year-old sister to
death over suspected immoral behavior.
2009.12.08 Iraq Baghdad 127 448 Five car bombs, one outside a fine
arts center, leave at least one-hundred and twenty Iraqis dead and nearly
five hundred more in agony.
2009.12.08 Pakistan Multan 12 20 A dozen Pakistanis are blown to bits
by Taliban bombers.
2009.12.07 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Shia leader is shot to death by
Sunni rivals.
2009.12.07 Thailand Pattani 1 4 A pro-government cleric is gunned down
by Islamic separatists.
2009.12.07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 11 A Buddhist man and woman are
murdered by Muslim bombers at a busy market.
2009.12.07 Iraq Baghdad 8 40 Seven children are among eight dead when
Sunni radicals bomb a Shia school.
2009.12.07 Pakistan Lahore 50 150 At least fifty people are
incinerated by twin bombings at a crowded marketplace.
2009.12.07 Iraq Tarmiyah 1 4 A woman is blown murdered in her home by
Mujahid bombers.
2009.12.07 India Baramulla 1 0 Muslim terrorists gun down a political
worker outside his home.
2009.12.07 Pakistan Peshawar 11 45 Eleven people at a courthouse are
blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2009.12.07 Iraq Tarmiyah 8 0 Six Iraqis are gunned down by al-Qaeda.
Two more bodies are discovered in Kirkuk.
2009.12.06 Pakistan Bajaur 2 2 The Taliban murder two tribesmen
outside a mosque.
2009.12.06 Iraq Abu Ghraib 4 0 Four local police manning a checkpoint
are machine-gunned to death at point-blank range.
2009.12.06 Somalia Bosaso 1 0 A cleric is assassinated by suspected
Islamic militia.
2009.12.05 Philippines Jolo 1 12 One person is killed when suspected
Abu Sayyaf militants set off a bomb.
2009.12.05 Iraq Mosul 5 1 Mujahideen shoot five people to death
including a mother and an elderly civilian.
2009.12.04 Pakistan Rawalpindi 40 86 Seventeen children at a mosque
are among nearly forty people cut down in a barbaric shooting and bombing
attack by Sunni hardliners.
2009.12.04 India Srinagar 0 0 Al-Nasireen gunmen assassinate a
political leader outside his home.
2009.12.04 Pakistan Mohmand Agency 6 13 Mujahideen bombers take out
six members of a wedding party traveling in a mini-bus.
2009.12.04 Iraq Tuz Khormato 1 0 An ethnic minority member is gunned
down in his home by Islamic terrorists.
2009.12.04 Dagestan Khasavyurt 2 7 A civilian having lunch at a cafe
is among two people murdered by Muslim terrorists in separate attacks.
2009.12.04 Jordan Amman 1 0 A 34-year-old woman, nine months pregnant,
is stabbed to death by her brother over alleged adultery.
2009.12.03 Iraq Tikrit 11 15 A Fedayeen suicide bomber blows himself
up at a packed market, taking eleven innocents with him.
2009.12.03 Somalia Mogadishu 22 46 Doctors and students are among
twenty-two people blown to bits at a medical school graduation by a Shahid.
2009.12.03 Iraq Baghdad 1 6 Mujahideen blow up a civilian at a market.
2009.12.03 Ingushetia Malgobek 1 0 A government official is
assassinated by Islamic militants.
2009.12.03 Thailand Pattani 3 0 A 17-year-old boy is among three
members of a family brutally gunned down in their home by Islamic
separatists.
2009.12.03 Pakistan Karol 1 0 A Christian man is shot to death by
Muslims after refusing to 'embrace' Islam.
2009.12.02 Pakistan Islamabad 2 11 A young man straps explosives to
his body and detonates at the entrance of a naval complex, killing two
security guards.
2009.12.02 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 A civilian is gunned down in a sectarian
attack at a cafe.
2009.12.01 Pakistan Orakzai 3 0 Three tribal leaders are assassinated
by Sunni terrorists.
2009.12.01 Pakistan Swat 1 13 A teen suicide bomber murders a lawmaker
inside his home.
2009.12.01 Somalia Bosasso 2 25 Suspected hardliners toss a grenade
into a movie theater, leaving two patrons dead from shrapnel injury.
2009.12.01 Pakistan Swat 1 0 Islamic fundamentalists murder the head
of a local peace committee.
2009.11.30 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A man is shot to death inside his home
by Islamic radicals.
2009.11.30 Iraq Mosul 1 3 Muslim gunmen ambush a car carrying a family
from a religious minority. The father is killed. Two women and a child are
injured.
2009.11.29 Iraq Ghalbiyah 1 2 Suspected al-Qaeda bombers take down
another Iraqi.
2009.11.29 Pakistan Kohat 33 65 At least thirty people celebrating a
holiday are blown to bits when a suicide car bomber plows into a crowded
market.
2009.11.29 Afghanistan Nimroz 6 2 Six Afghan police officers are
murdered in cold blood by a Talibani disguised as one of them.
2009.11.28 India Bhopal 3 0 Three people are gunned down in an ambush
by a SIMI terrorist.
2009.11.28 Somalia Baladweyn 2 1 Two clerics are assassinated by
Hizbul-Islam gunmen outside a mosque.
2009.11.27 Pal. Auth. Gaza 1 0 A woman is strangled with a wet towel
by her family members to restore their 'honor'.
2009.11.27 Russia Bologoye 26 96 Twenty-six passengers are killed when
suspected Chechan terrorists derail a train with a bomb.
2009.11.27 Afghanistan Farah 3 0 Three Afghanis are taken out by a
Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2009.11.27 Pakistan Bajaur 1 3 A tribal leader is assassinated by
Taliban bombers at a mosque.
2009.11.26 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 0 A police officer is gunned down by
Muslim militants.
2009.11.26 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamists shoot a 62-year-old civilian to
death as he is riding a motorbike.
2009.11.26 Iraq Iskandariya 2 28 Children are among the casualites
when Sunni radicals set off a bomb at a crowded marketplace.
2009.11.26 Iraq Yousifiya 2 10 Jihadis explode a car bomb at a bus
stop, killing two Iraqis.
2009.11.25 Somalia Mogadishu 1 1 A civilian is killed when Jihadis
throw a grenade into the street.
2009.11.25 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamic gunmen murder a 47-year-old
man as he is returning home from a tea shop.
2009.11.25 Iraq Mosul 3 1 Islamist bombers take out three Iraqi cops.
2009.11.25 Iraq Karbala 5 36 Five people are murdered by a brutal
double bombing at a restaurant.
2009.11.25 Iraq Tarmiya 6 0 A married couple and two daughters are
among six innocents slain in a sectarian home invasion.
2009.11.25 Yemen San'a 1 0 al-Qaeda posts a video of the torture and
gruesome execution of a 41-year-old intelligence officer.
2009.11.24 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two young men are shot to death by
Muslim militants in separate attacks.
2009.11.24 Pakistan Bajaur 3 4 Two children are among three members of
a family killed when suspected Mujahid rocket their home.
2009.11.24 Afghanistan Khost 5 3 Four children are blown to bits when
Islamic fundamentalists set off a roadside bomb next to a family vehicle.
2009.11.24 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two Sunni imams are assassinated in
separate bomb attacks.
2009.11.24 Afghanistan Khost 4 0 Two women are among four civilians
shot to death at point-blank range by Mujahideen.
2009.11.22 Afghanistan Helmand 3 2 Taliban radicals take out three
local security personnel in a roadside attack.
2009.11.22 Afghanistan Spin Boldak 5 0 All five passengers in a police
vehicle are ripped to shreds by a Sunni bomb.
2009.11.22 Somalia Afmadow 2 0 At least two civilians are killed in
the crossfire when rival Islamist groups clash.
2009.11.22 Iraq Garma 7 5 Sunnis bomb a checkpoint, killing seven
Iraqis.
2009.11.22 Iraq Mosul 1 4 A child is incinerated in a thermal bomb
attack by Muslim terrorists.
2009.11.22 Afghanistan Landikotal 6 10 The Taliban mortar a crowded
bazaar, killing at least six civilians.
2009.11.22 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A female Buddhist teacher is gunned
down in front of her home by Islamic militants.
2009.11.21 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A school teacher is assassinated by Muslim
gunmen.
2009.11.21 Pakistan North Waziristan 4 0 Four security officers are
killed in a rocket attack by Taliban fundamentalists.
2009.11.21 Saudi Arabia Jebel Rumayh 3 3 Shiite radicals infiltrate
the border and kill three Saudi soldiers.
2009.11.21 Philippines Surallah 1 0 A 5-year-old girl is killed when
Muslim rebels fire on a group of soldiers.
2009.11.20 Afghanistan Farah 16 25 A suicide bomber on a motorcycle
detonates in the middle of a packed market, slaughtering about sixteen
shoppers.
2009.11.20 Iraq Mosul 3 5 Three Iraqis are blown apart by a roadside
bomb.
2009.11.20 Pakistan Peshawar 3 7 Jihadis take out three policmen with
a shrapnel bomb.
2009.11.20 Pakistan Karachi 1 1 A Sunni is shot to death by sectarian
rivals.
2009.11.19 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 35-year-old Buddhist university
employee is gunned down by Islamists.
2009.11.19 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslims shoot a 32-year-old Buddhist
construction worker to death as he is travelling to pick up his children.
2009.11.19 Russia Moscow 1 1 An anti-Islam priest is assassinated in
his own church by a suspected Muslim gunman.
2009.11.19 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Shiite cleric is gunned down by
sectarian rivals.
2009.11.19 Pakistan Orakzai 2 0 A policeman and his elderly father a
shot to death by Taliban militants.
2009.11.19 Pakistan Peshawar 19 50 Nineteen innocents are incinerated
in a suicide bomb attack on a courthouse.
2009.11.19 Afghanistan Oruzgan 10 13 A Shahid suicide car bomber takes
out ten civilians along a city street.
2009.11.17 Afghanistan Helmand 2 0 Two Afghan civilians are killed in
a roadside attack by Sunni terrorists.
2009.11.17 Somalia Eelboon 1 0 A 29-year-old woman is planted in the
ground and pelted to death with stones over adulterous sex.
2009.11.17 Afghanistan Kunduz 4 0 Taliban hardliners murder four
guards at a security firm.
2009.11.17 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Holy Warrior on a motorbike guns
down a school bus driver through his side window.
2009.11.17 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 A Jihad bomb kills two Iraqis.
2009.11.16 Iraq al-Saadan 13 0 al-Qaeda militants kidnap and execute
thirteen Sunni Iraqis.
2009.11.16 Pakistan Peshawar 4 43 A Fedayeen suicide bomb blast
outside a shop leaves at least four dead.
2009.11.16 Afghanistan Tagab 14 38 Religious extremists rocket a
market, killing at least fourteen people.
2009.11.16 Iraq Kirkuk 6 17 Six people are blown to bits by Islamic
car bombers.
2009.11.16 India Samba 2 0 Mujahideen kill a border policeman and his
driver with a landmine.
2009.11.16 India Kupwara 2 0 Pakistani infiltrators attack an Indian
security patrol, killing two members.
2009.11.15 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 An anti-Taliban tribal leader is
murdered and his home destroyed.
2009.11.15 Iraq Mosul 1 5 Jihadi bombers take out a 12-year-old child.
2009.11.14 Pakistan Peshawar 15 25 Four children and a woman are among
fifteen innocents blown to bits by a sucide bomber.
2009.11.14 Somalia Mogadishu 5 11 At least five civilians are killed
during a mortar attack by Islamic milita.
2009.11.14 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A 23-year-old Christian convert is
kidnapped by Islamists and executed with two shots to the head.
2009.11.14 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A 16-year-old Christian boy is gunned down
outside his home by suspected radicals.
2009.11.14 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two men are murdered by Muslim
gunmen at a wood processing plant.
2009.11.13 Pakistan Bannu 6 27 Six people lose their lives to a
suicide car bomber.
2009.11.13 Afghanistan Kabul 2 4 A Taliban blast leaves at least two
Afghans dead.
2009.11.13 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A young man is kidnapped and shot in the
head by terrorists.
2009.11.13 Pakistan Peshawar 10 55 A Shahid suicide truck bomber takes
out ten at a government building.
2009.11.13 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 A policeman and his brother are murdered
by Islamic gunmen.
2009.11.13 Afghanistan Kabul 4 0 Two civilians and three soldiers are
killed in separate roadside bombings by religious fundamentalists.
2009.11.13 Thailand Yala 1 0 An 18-year-old is shot to death in a
Religion of Peace drive-by attack.
2009.11.12 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 An Iranian official is gunned down in
a sectarian attack blamed on a Sunni group.
2009.11.12 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Muslim radicals gun down a older
Buddhist couple at a rice mill.
2009.11.12 Pakistan Hangu 2 6 Taliban extremists detonate explosives
outside a home, killing at least two residents.
2009.11.12 Afghanistan Nangarhar 2 2 Two children are blown to bits by
Islamic bombers.
2009.11.12 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 A female high school teacher is shot to
death by Muslim terrorists.
2009.11.12 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three civilians are killed in separate
Mujahid shooting attacks, including a teenager.
2009.11.11 Somalia Puntland 2 0 A judge and a lawmaker are
assassinated by suspected al-Shabaab militants in separate incidents.
2009.11.11 Pakistan Mohmand 10 14 Two local soldiers, kidnapped and
beheaded, are among ten murdered by Taliban Islamists in two attacks.
2009.11.11 Afghanistan Zabul 2 3 Two civilians are blown to bits by a
Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2009.11.10 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A villager is gunned down by Muslim
militants.
2009.11.10 Iraq Balad 2 2 Two policemen are cut down in an urban
ambush by Sunni gunmen.
2009.11.10 Pakistan Peshawar 34 104 Thirty-four people are blown to
bits by a Shahid car bomber along a crowded city street lined with shops.
Women and children are among the dead.
2009.11.10 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists murder a man as he is
walking outside his home.
2009.11.10 Iran Tehran 1 0 The Islamic Republic of Iran assassinates a
doctor who exposed torture by poisoning his salad.
2009.11.10 Afghanistan Paktika 2 13 The Taliban fire a rocket into a
home, killing two residents.
2009.11.09 Algeria Tarah 2 5 Fundamentalists set off a bomb that kills
five local soldiers.
2009.11.09 Pakistan Bajaur 3 1 Three local soldiers are murdered in
two Mujahideen bombing and shooting attacks.
2009.11.09 Iraq Kut 1 0 A young woman is the victim of an honor
killing by her brother.
2009.11.09 Philippines Jolo 1 0 Abu Sayyaf militants cut the head off
of a Christian school principal and leave it in a paper bag at a gas
station.
2009.11.09 Thailand Yala 1 1 A young Buddhist man collecting plants is
brutally ambushed and killed by Religion of Peace advocates.
2009.11.09 Pakistan Peshawar 3 5 A woman and a rickshaw driver are
among three people blown up by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.11.09 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists shoot and kill a
53-year-old riding home on his motorcycle.
2009.11.08 Somalia Hodon 2 8 Two civilians are killed during an attack
by Islamic militia.
2009.11.08 Pakistan Mattani 12 36 A Fedayeen suicide bomber strikes a
packed market, blasting at least a dozen innocents to death.
2009.11.08 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 Mujahideen gun down an oil company worker.
2009.11.08 Thailand Pattani 2 3 A young man eating in a restaurant is
among two people killed in separate Mujahid shootings.
2009.11.08 India Rajouri 2 1 A man and his wife are murdered in their
home by intruding Islamic gunmen.
2009.11.08 Iraq Kut 1 0 A young woman is kidnapped, bound and shot to
death by Muslim terrorists.
2009.11.07 Afghanistan Helmand 3 0 Religious extremists blow up a
vehicle carrying local soldiers, killing three.
2009.11.07 Yemen Al Khubah 4 36 Shiite rebels reportedly shell a
residential area, killing four women from the same family.
2009.11.07 Pakistan Hangu 3 2 Islamic hardliners attack a local
military base with rockets, killing three.
2009.11.07 Iraq Abu Ghraib 1 3 An al-Qaeda bombing leaves one dead.
2009.11.06 Iraq Rashad 1 0 Suspected al-Qaeda gunmen take down an
Iraqi.
2009.11.06 Somalia Merca 1 0 A 33-year-old man is brutally stoned to
death for adultery. The execution takes about seven minutes.
2009.11.06 Iraq Baqubah 1 1 Sunni fundamentalists shoot a barber to
death.
2009.11.06 Pakistan Hangu 1 4 A policeman is gunned down by Islamic
terrorists.
2009.11.05 Philippines Zamboanga 2 8 Two people are killed when
suspected Islamists fire into a commuter bus.
2009.11.05 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist yelling 'Allah
Akbar' murders thirteen unarmed U.S. soldiers on their base in Texas,
including a pregnant woman.
2009.11.04 Pakistan Bajaur 2 2 Two female schoolteachers are brutally
shot to death by Taliban extremists.
2009.11.03 Yemen Hadramut 8 0 al-Qadea militants open fire on a
vehicle, machine-gunning eight people to death.
2009.11.03 Afghanistan Helmand 5 8 A Taliban gunmen disguised as a
policeman suddenly opens fire at a police base, killing five British
soldiers in cold blood.
2009.11.03 Saudi Arabia Jazan 1 11 Islamic rebels gun down a security
officer "with the support and assistance of Allah."
2009.11.03 Iraq Abu Ghraib 3 0 Mujahid bombers wipe out a family of
three, including a girl.
2009.11.03 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two Buddhist truck drivers are
brutally slain and then burned by Religion of Peace extremists.
2009.11.02 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered
when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.'
2009.11.02 Pakistan Rawalpindi 36 63 Fundamentalists set off a massive
bomb near a line of people outside a bank, putting down at least
thirty-five.
2009.11.02 Iraq Khanaqin 2 0 A man and his son are gunned down by
Muslim terrorists.
2009.11.02 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two men riding in a pickup truck are shot
to death by a terrorist disguised in a burka.
2009.11.02 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists break into a house and
murder a villager.
2009.11.02 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two security personnel are gunned down
by Muslim rebels in separate attacks.
2009.11.02 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two men are killed in a Religion of Peace
drive-by.
2009.11.02 Pakistan Lahore 0 25 Twenty-five people are injured when a
suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
2009.11.01 India Srinagar 2 0 Islamists murder two traffic cops in a
hit-and-run surprise attack at an intersection.
2009.11.01 Somalia Lascanood 5 4 Suspected Shabaab radicals blow up a
car with five people inside.
2009.11.01 Dagestan Bavtugai 1 0 A local mosque official is
assassinated by extremists.
2009.11.01 Iraq Karbala 3 15 Terrorists plant a bomb on a bus that
leaves three people dead.
2009.11.01 Iraq Ramadi 3 5 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes down three
Iraqis.
2009.11.01 Iraq Mussayab 9 38 Jihadis rig a bicycle with explosives,
then set it off in a market, killing at least nine innocents.
2009.11.01 Philippines Banisilan 1 2 Moro Islamists ambush a car
carrying civilians, shooting at least one to death.
2009.10.31 Pakistan Khyber 2 7 Sunni hardliners blow up a girls'
school and mortar a residential neighborhood, killing two civilians.
2009.10.31 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamists kidnap a local man, handcuff
him, then shoot him in the head.
2009.10.31 Pakistan Bara 7 12 Lashkar-e-Islam members use a roadside
bomber to murder seven security personnel.
2009.10.31 Philippines Sulu 1 4 Moro Islamists open fire on a passing
patrol, killing at least one.
2009.10.30 Iraq Tikrit 1 0 A young man has his throat slashed by Sunni
militants.
2009.10.30 Afghanistan Nangarhar 9 0 All nine civilians riding in a
taxi are slaughtered by Taliban bombers.
2009.10.30 Iraq Baghdad 1 3 Mujahideen bombers murder a government
official.
2009.10.30 Pakistan Pir Sarhandi Goth 1 0 An older homosexual man is
pulled from his home and beaten to death by a Muslim mob.
2009.10.30 Thailand Yala 1 1 A Buddhist woman is brutally shot to
death, and her husband is seriously injured, by Muslim radicals.
2009.10.29 Iraq Baquba 1 2 A civilian is taken out by a Fedayeen
suicide bomber outside a hospital.
2009.10.29 Iraq Mosul 3 1 Sunni gunmen murder three Iraqi policemen at
point-blank range.
2009.10.29 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 A child is among four Afghan
civilians torn to pieces by an Islamist bomb.
2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two civilians are gunned down in
separate Muslim drive-bys.
2009.10.28 Iraq Baghdad 3 4 Three women sitting on a minibus are blown
to bits by Islamic bombers.
2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 78-year-old Buddhist man is shot off
his motorbike by Muslim terrorists.
2009.10.28 Iraq Mosul 3 5 Mujahideen kill three civilians with a
roadside bomb.
2009.10.28 Afghanistan Kabul 9 9 Mujahideen force their way into a UN
guesthouse, where they murder nine people, including six international
workers.
2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim radicals shoot a Buddhist
motorcycle shop owner to death, then set fire to his body.
2009.10.28 Pakistan Peshawar 117 200 Over one-hundred people - mostly
women and children - are blown to bits by a massive car bomb blast at a busy
market.

Kai R

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Fred Exley kirjoitti:

> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7pqau6...@mid.individual.net...
>> RonG kirjoitti:
>>> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> No, I'm not confusing Europe with the whole world, but I do insist it is
>>>> a part of the world. In Europe, which according to Fred is at the verge
>>>> of collapse due to the number of muslims in here,
>
> Liar! I never said anything remotely like that. The article I posted
> pointed out the greater the percentage muslim population, the greater the
> level of terrorist violence. It happens to be true.
>
> http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
>
>
>
> List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months
>

[snip]

Right. Another one who thinks that a listing titled "islamic terrorist
attacks" is going to include a comprehensive listing of all terrorist
atacks. In addition, a super-biased site like the one you quoted of
course assumes that all violence occurring in a predominantly islamic
country is always "islamic" in nature. As if there were no other
possible reasons for the attacks, such as being presently occupied by a
ruthless superpower that is securing it's steady supply of oil.

Also, where are countries like Morocco, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Jordania,
Tunis, Turkey and so forth? Last time I checked the muslim proportion
was pretty high. How come the level of "terrorist violence" is not high
there? Could it possibly be that some other variables are more important
than the number of muslims?

--
Kai

Fred Exley

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7pqau6...@mid.individual.net...
>>> RonG kirjoitti:
>>>> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> No, I'm not confusing Europe with the whole world, but I do insist it
>>>>> is a part of the world. In Europe, which according to Fred is at the
>>>>> verge of collapse due to the number of muslims in here,
>>
>> Liar! I never said anything remotely like that. The article I posted
>> pointed out the greater the percentage muslim population, the greater the
>> level of terrorist violence. It happens to be true.
>>
>> http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
>>
>>
>>
>> List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months
>>
>
> [snip]
>
> Right. Another one who thinks that a listing titled "islamic terrorist
> attacks" is going to include a comprehensive listing of all terrorist
> atacks.

Liar again!!! I never said or implied any such thing. Once again, the

article I posted pointed out the greater the percentage muslim population,
the greater the level of terrorist violence.

> Also, where are countries like Morocco, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Jordania,

> Tunis, Turkey and so forth? Last time I checked the muslim proportion was

> pretty high. How come the level of > Also, where are countries like

> Morocco, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Jordania, Tunis, Turkey and so forth? Last
> time I checked the muslim proportion was pretty high. How come the level
> of "terrorist violence" is not high there?


You cite Libya as one of the countries which disproves my point? What
planet are you from? http://history1900s.about.com/od/1980s/a/flight103.htm

I could provide you a list of Islamic terrorost violence in 'Morocco, Libya,
Egypt, Syria, Jordania, Tunis, Turkey and so forth', but then you would cry
fowl for googling 'Islamic terrorost violence in Morocco, Libya, Egypt,
Syria, Jordania, Tunis, Turkey and so forth'.

And btw, how is "terrorist violence" defined in the world according to Kai?
Does one 9/11 incident equate with one IRA car-bombing incident, making them
statistically the same thing? I thought Finland was supposed to be some
academic paradise, yet you seem unable to grasp the difference between
quantity and quality.


"More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September
11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland."
http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violence/death95w.htm

"More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the
Spanish Inquisition combined. "

"Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has
in the last 50 years. "

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks


RonG

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"Fred Exley" <fexl...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Fred, Kai is a pacifist who blames all the world turmoil on the US. If
he read about some village being infested with army ants, he would cite
this as another invasion by the US.

RonG

F.H.

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:42:37 PM12/28/09
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Fred Exley wrote:

<snip>

> "Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has
> in the last 50 years. "
>
> http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

Fred, checking out this link brought to mind a question, did it ever
occur to you that maybe, /your/ mind, and the minds of the ones you draw
attention to are inspired by /similar/ deductions/perspectives on
several levels?

WRATH,: n. Anger of a superior quality and degree, appropriate to
exalted characters and momentous occasions; as, "the wrath of God," "the
day of wrath," etc.

"Amongst the ancients the wrath of kings was deemed sacred, for it could
usually command the agency of some god for its fit manifestation, as
could also that of a priest. The Greeks before Troy were so harried by
Apollo that they jumped out of the frying-pan of the wrath of Cryses
into the fire of the wrath of Achilles, though Agamemnon, the sole
offender, was neither fried nor roasted. A similar noted immunity was
that of David when he incurred the wrath of Yahveh by numbering his
people, seventy thousand of whom paid the penalty with their lives. God
is now Love, and a director of the census performs his work without
apprehension of disaster." [Ambrose Bierce]

Between human nature and mother nature, a man don't stand much of a
chance. :) ("So it goes")

Fred Exley

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What is the proper reaction to frequent, extreme atrocities? Some say turn
the other cheek, others say stay home, others deny it exists or equate it
with milder wrongs. I say find out who did it, then hunt them down and kill
them. Wrath has nothing to do with it.


F.H.

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Dec 28, 2009, 2:25:56 PM12/28/09
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LOL, right. Ever notice how the definition of atrocities varies?

Suppose you were living in Baghdad in 2003 when "Operation Iraqi
Liberation," was launched? With good profits and propagandists, crimes
against humanity become acts of heroism. Opps! Sorry, the intel was a
little fucked up. When do we bid on the oil. ;)

"What a stupendous, what an incomprehensible machine is man! Who can
endure toil, famine, stripes, imprisonment & death itself in vindication
of his own liberty, and the next moment, inflict on his fellow men a
bondage, one hour of which is fraught with more misery than ages of that
which he rose in rebellion to oppose." [Thomas Jefferson]

Fred Exley

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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"I'm a slave to black pussy!" -Thomas Jefferson


F.H.

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"Motor oil is motor oil." [80's commercial]

Kai R

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Fred Exley kirjoitti:

> "More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September
> 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland."
> http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violence/death95w.htm
>
> "More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the
> Spanish Inquisition combined. "
>
> "Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has
> in the last 50 years. "
>

And the US military kills more people a year than all those combined. It
kills far more people every year than ALL terrorist groups together. So
what's your point, Fred?

--
Kai

Kai R

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RonG kirjoitti:

>
> Fred, Kai is a pacifist who blames all the world turmoil on the US. If
> he read about some village being infested with army ants, he would cite
> this as another invasion by the US.
>

Ahh, Mr "All terror acts are islamic" returns to the debate. And this
time it's personal!

--
Kai

Kai R

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:22:08 PM12/28/09
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Fred Exley kirjoitti:

> You cite Libya as one of the countries which disproves my point? What
> planet are you from? http://history1900s.about.com/od/1980s/a/flight103.htm
>

LOL So you found one terror act from the eighties? Well, I can do that
too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

But yeah, I bet it's Very Different when it's the US military shooting
down Iranian planes. Isn't it, Fred? I mean, they were already at the
Strait of Hormuz which is so close to the US it's clear they were about
to attack so you had to defend yourselves...

> I could provide you a list of Islamic terrorost violence in 'Morocco, Libya,
> Egypt, Syria, Jordania, Tunis, Turkey and so forth', but then you would cry
> fowl for googling 'Islamic terrorost violence in Morocco, Libya, Egypt,
> Syria, Jordania, Tunis, Turkey and so forth'.
>

Go ahead and google. I promise not to cry fowl (sic). But I may google
some other than islamic attacks and call them "Christian terrorism".

> And btw, how is "terrorist violence" defined in the world according to Kai?
> Does one 9/11 incident equate with one IRA car-bombing incident, making them
> statistically the same thing? I thought Finland was supposed to be some
> academic paradise, yet you seem unable to grasp the difference between
> quantity and quality.
>

It didn�t take long for you to go ad hom, now did it?

--
Kai

Fred Exley

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That you are full of shit. And too immature to admit when you are wrong.
Do you have any idea how many people the US military kills, vs. the entire
Spanish Inquisition, KKK, Northern Ireland and 9/11 body count? Of course
not -you're just full of shit.

>
> --
> Kai


Fred Exley

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>
>> You cite Libya as one of the countries which disproves my point? What
>> planet are you from?
>> http://history1900s.about.com/od/1980s/a/flight103.htm
>>
>
> LOL So you found one terror act from the eighties?

So Lockerbie is just 'one terror act'? My, what a deep thinker you are.


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Kai R

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Fred Exley kirjoitti:

You were always a clever snipper. Never ever did you have to respond to
difficult questions because you so skillfully snipped all those evil
things away...

--
Kai

Kai R

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Fred Exley kirjoitti:

> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7pslem...@mid.individual.net...
>> Fred Exley kirjoitti:
>>> "More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on
>>> September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern
>>> Ireland." http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violence/death95w.htm
>>>
>>> "More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of
>>> the Spanish Inquisition combined. "
>>>
>>> "Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan
>>> has in the last 50 years. "
>>>
>> And the US military kills more people a year than all those combined. It
>> kills far more people every year than ALL terrorist groups together. So
>> what's your point, Fred?
>
> That you are full of shit.

Uh-huh. Excellent argument, Fred. Proves your point. Whatever it was.

> And too immature to admit when you are wrong.
> Do you have any idea how many people the US military kills, vs. the entire
> Spanish Inquisition, KKK, Northern Ireland and 9/11 body count? Of course
> not -you're just full of shit.

It was you who started comparing the numbers killed. Do YOU have any
idea of their body counts? If not, what are you full of, Fred?

--
Kai

Bob

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:54:16 PM12/28/09
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Fred Exley wrote:
>
>
> What is the proper reaction to frequent, extreme atrocities? Some
> say turn the other cheek, others say stay home, others deny it exists
> or equate it with milder wrongs. I say find out who did it, then
> hunt them down and kill them. Wrath has nothing to do with it.
>
>

Effective extremists kill themselves, leaving bewildered USAns choking
on their own revenge, savaging sycophants with friendly fire, plus,
with incompetence masqueraded as 'collateral damage', provoking at best
equally self righteous animosity.

Meanwhile, Osama bin Laden, your proclaimed target, doesn't even need to
provide proof of life to let you lot screw up even your own airline
schedules. Face it Fred, the only qualitative thing those clinging to
your sentiments are capable of hunting down and killing is the Usan
dream of greatness.

F.H.

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Now Bob, you know we are constantly working to develop new and more
efficient ways to expand freedom. Not just abroad but locally as well.

Give us another 20 years to fine tune the application of the technology
we are developing as we help others around the world and you'll see what
the expression "ends justify means" /really/ means.

http://tinyurl.com/ydk728f

Bob

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Crikey, bro - I'll happily cede hackers ten years to fine tune the
application of that technology, - they'll only need hijack just one of
those drones to let the world see what "Poetic Justice" *really* means.

F.H.

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Some dumbing down of the general population will of course necessarily
accompany the widespread applications.

http://tinyurl.com/yb7ygnf

Sharx35

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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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Profit and propaganda...when it involves OUR side--no problem. Perhaps, YOUR
side is that of Al Qaida and/or the Taliban.

Sharx35

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"Bob" <nos...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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YOU are so devoid of greatness that you dare not even DREAM of it.

Fred Exley

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"Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7pq95...@mid.individual.net...
> RonG kirjoitti:

>>
>> "Kai R" <kai.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7pq6go...@mid.individual.net...
>>> RonG kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>> In glancing through your reference report, I noted, perhaps incorrectly
>>>> that the report only covered basically one year and Europe only. It did
>>>> not encompass the whole world. Take a brief tour through the following:
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you only search for islamic terrorism, that is what you will find.
>>> That's how the search engines tend to work.
>>>
>>
>> And how, may I ask, is this search on islamic terroism any different than
>> the islamic terroism addressed in your European report?
>
> Umm, which islamic terrorism do you refer to in the Europol report? The
> number of "failed, foiled and successful" islamic terrorist attacks was
> zero in 2008. What I meant is that if you only go to a wikipedia article
> titled "islamic terrorism", it may indeed be possible to get the idea all
> terrorism is islamic. But in truth, that is not the case.
>
>> If you go back and read my initial post in this thread, I was addressing
>> the "whole" world and not just Europe, unless of course you think that
>> Europe is the whole world.

>>
>
> No, I'm not confusing Europe with the whole world, but I do insist it is a
> part of the world. In Europe, which according to Fred is at the verge of
> collapse due to the number of muslims in here, there were no islamic
> terror acts in 2008. In 2006 there was one foiled attempt, that was all.
>
> We did have, however, 515 terror attacks and attempts in 2008 of
> motivation *other than islamic*. Now how does that fit with your claim
> that "most of the terrorist activities" in the world are related to
> islamic faith? But hey, feel free to show some stats from the world to
> back your claim. I showed stats from my area and they do not support your
> stance. Now it�s your turn.
>
> --
> Kai

Happy New Year Kai!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/01/danish.cartoon.break.in/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn

F.H.

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Fred Exley

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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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What does criminal charges against five Blackwater security guards in Iraq
have to do with Kai's claim that there's no terrorist activity in Europe?
Please start a new thread if you want to change the subject.


F.H.

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Is that the /worst/ over there? What do you call it when hired guns
representing (paid by) the U.S. taxpayers kill 17 unarmed civilians in a
sovereign nation?

If you want to be monitor and control threads I guess we can take a
vote. Or summon Mikey and offer him the job.

Chronocidal Charlie

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Franks jest tryen to emulate he hero David Polewhacker. Just post a
response. Don't make no never mnd it don't make any sense. Don't just
sit there, *post* damn it.

CC


F.H.

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"Irony is a disciplinarian feared only by those who do not know it, but
cherished by those who do."
Kierkegaard

Fred Exley

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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Fred Exley wrote:
>> "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:1tqdnWc4m9HyLqPW...@giganews.com...
>>> Fred Exley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Happy New Year Kai!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/01/danish.cartoon.break.in/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yhwwtvc
>>
>> What does criminal charges against five Blackwater security guards in
>> Iraq have to do with Kai's claim that there's no terrorist activity in
>> Europe? Please start a new thread if you want to change the subject.
>
> Is that the /worst/ over there? What do you call it when hired guns
> representing (paid by) the U.S. taxpayers kill 17 unarmed civilians in a
> sovereign nation?

Another thread. Now get the fuck out of here.


F.H.

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Fred Exley wrote:
> "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:r76dnYvxgvzaIKPW...@giganews.com...
>> Fred Exley wrote:
>>> "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:1tqdnWc4m9HyLqPW...@giganews.com...
>>>> Fred Exley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Happy New Year Kai!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/01/danish.cartoon.break.in/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yhwwtvc
>>> What does criminal charges against five Blackwater security guards in
>>> Iraq have to do with Kai's claim that there's no terrorist activity in
>>> Europe? Please start a new thread if you want to change the subject.
>> Is that the /worst/ over there? What do you call it when hired guns
>> representing (paid by) the U.S. taxpayers kill 17 unarmed civilians in a
>> sovereign nation?
>
> Another thread. Now get the fuck out of here.

If you want to be monitor and control threads I guess we can take a

Fred Exley

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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Beat it.


Chronocidal Charlie

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Perhaps both yew guys google "full of fire and forgetful, outrage joyful
companion" wiff no quotes on it of course. ;-)

CC


jimbo

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On Jan 1, 9:45 pm, "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/yhwwtvc

Justice prevails!
Jim

F.H.

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Fred Exley wrote:
> "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> Fred Exley wrote:
>>> "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> Fred Exley wrote:
>>>>> "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> Fred Exley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy New Year Kai!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/01/danish.cartoon.break.in/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn

>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yhwwtvc

>>>>> What does criminal charges against five Blackwater security guards in
>>>>> Iraq have to do with Kai's claim that there's no terrorist activity in
>>>>> Europe? Please start a new thread if you want to change the subject.

>>>> Is that the /worst/ over there? What do you call it when hired guns
>>>> representing (paid by) the U.S. taxpayers kill 17 unarmed civilians in a
>>>> sovereign nation?

>>> Another thread. Now get the fuck out of here.

>> If you want to be monitor and control threads I guess we can take a vote.
>> Or summon Mikey and offer him the job.

> Beat it.

My vote goes to Mikey.

>

Sharx35

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"F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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Figures. You LIEbrawls/DEMONrats just love trying to control everything.


>
>>

Kai R

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Fred Exley kirjoitti:

Ahh, okay, that's a bad thing. Hope they lock them up and throw away the
key. But what was your point, Fred? Is that event supposed to prove
"most of terrorist activities in Europe are islamic"?

--
Kai

JoeRaisin

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Now you're understanding.

Folks like Kai are always hesitant to criticize those who may retaliate
- as unlikely as it is that a comment in a news group would attract
untoward attention, he just doesn't want to take that risk.

JoeRaisin

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:48:32 AM1/2/10
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Frank too is very selective about who he condemns - but not (I believe)
for the same reasons as Kai.

If some folks belonging to an organization he agrees with behave in a
poor manner, well it's just a few individuals and we shouldn't paint
with such a broad brush.

If it's an organization he disagrees with, the whole thing is bad.

But he has no preconceived bias...

Kai R

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JoeRaisin kirjoitti:

Right. Just pretend I hadn't already written a message in which I
expressed my wish for the perpetrators to be locked and the key to be
thrown away. But the truth of what I think doesn't really interest you,
does it. You just want to go ad hom whenever possible. Asshole.

--
Kai

F.H.

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:13:00 PM1/2/10
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Disregarding his /own/ personal bias's Joe Raisin proceeded to speak
cavalierly on the subject:

> Frank too is very selective about who he condemns - but not (I believe)
> for the same reasons as Kai.

> If some folks belonging to an organization he agrees with behave in a
> poor manner, well it's just a few individuals and we shouldn't paint
> with such a broad brush.

> If it's an organization he disagrees with, the whole thing is bad.

> But he has no preconceived bias...

Maybe he's just less prejudiced. (that does seem to cause confusion for
*some* people. ;)

JoeRaisin

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:28:23 PM1/2/10
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F.H. wrote:
> Disregarding his /own/ personal bias's Joe Raisin proceeded to speak
> cavalierly on the subject:
>
>> Frank too is very selective about who he condemns - but not (I
>> believe) for the same reasons as Kai.
>
>> If some folks belonging to an organization he agrees with behave in a
>> poor manner, well it's just a few individuals and we shouldn't paint
>> with such a broad brush.
>
>> If it's an organization he disagrees with, the whole thing is bad.
>
>> But he has no preconceived bias...
>
> Maybe he's just less prejudiced.

Or more - guess it depends upon the group being discussed

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