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Buy_Sell

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Mar 2, 2006, 10:56:19 PM3/2/06
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I live in western Canada and I am starting to research where to
purchase skirt material for my hovercraft projects. I would appreciate
any information from anyone who knows where to purchase the various
materials, what the approximate cost of the materials are and which
materials have better qualities and why. I was also wondering if
anyone has ever attempted to use the Tyvek teflon house wrap as a skirt
material? It is pretty tough stuff... I found a website listed below
that apparently has a very good quality skirt material. Any comments
or ideas are welcome.

http://www.hovercollege.com/Order/

anonymous

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Mar 3, 2006, 8:58:24 AM3/3/06
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Go to http://www.hovercruiser.org/, become a member, then check the THCC
archives. It represents what is perhaps the best overall effort at
collecting hovercraft information that is neither advertising or based on
folklore. Most contributions were made by a very small number of past
members who generally preferred using a well studied approach instead of
and running around with their heads flopping about.

--
anonymous

C. Bailey

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Mar 3, 2006, 11:57:30 PM3/3/06
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Gordon McAndrew (just east of Edmonton) was selling skirt material similar
to the stuff used on Sevtecs a few years ago. I think he monitors this
newsgroup. He is active in Hoverlovers if not.

Chris


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Buy_Sell

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Mar 4, 2006, 2:46:54 AM3/4/06
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I ran a profile on Gordon McAndrew. He hasn't posted to a newsgroup
using his name since August of last year. Does he post by any other
names? If Gordon still lives just east of Edmonton, then he is very
close to where I live. It would be nice to schedule a few hovercraft
events in my area. I have never even seen a hovercraft here. There is
a potential of 2 million people within my area and no hovercrafts
anywhere. This sounds like a business opportunity waiting to happen.

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C. Bailey Fri, Mar 3 2006 9:57 pm

anonymous

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Mar 4, 2006, 9:53:52 AM3/4/06
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On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:46:54 -0800, Buy_Sell wrote:

> I ran a profile on Gordon McAndrew. He hasn't posted to a newsgroup
> using his name since August of last year. Does he post by any other
> names? If Gordon still lives just east of Edmonton, then he is very
> close to where I live. It would be nice to schedule a few hovercraft
> events in my area. I have never even seen a hovercraft here. There is
> a potential of 2 million people within my area and no hovercrafts
> anywhere. This sounds like a business opportunity waiting to happen.


Before diving into hovercraft business ventures, it may be wise for
prospective entrepreneurs visit http://www.decastris.com/hcc/canada.htm.

Canada has a very rich history of failed commercial hovercraft ventures,
perhaps because back in the "good-ol-days", Canada had an active
hovercraft research (and development funding) program sponsored by the
National Research Council. Some failures were for technical reasons, but
many failures occurred simply because impatient bankers called loans
before any decent amount of cash flow could be realized in the start-up
ventures. Low budget, fly-by-night ventures may be possible in some parts
of the world, but remember that anything built in Canada for commercial
purposes (that means for resale) must meet Transport Canada requirements.
While in theory that should provide for a superior product (some may argue
against that), it can also complicate things for low-budget startups.

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anonymous

Buy_Sell

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Mar 4, 2006, 10:50:51 AM3/4/06
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Thanks for the link... I don't think that I would be using the banks
to finance any future businesses. Bankers and investors are only
interested in making a profit on the backs of whoever is foolish enough
to fall into their trap. The governments are always there to take what
is considered, their fare share also. I have run a few successful
businesses in the past 20 years and I am well aware of cashflow
problems. I've also made my share of mistakes in life. Sometimes
flying under the radar is the wisest choice to make...

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anonymous Sat, Mar 4 2006 7:53 am

David Bosworth

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Mar 4, 2006, 11:36:36 AM3/4/06
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As said Gordon can be found on the hoverlovers group. He has posted so you
need a better source for information. Or just find his website and contact
him there.

--
From the rocky shores of the Skykomish river
David Bosworth
http://www.premier1.net/~daveb/hovercrafts.html

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C. Bailey

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Mar 4, 2006, 4:01:29 PM3/4/06
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I have inserted the last letter of the alphebet 3 times into the following
address. Remove these occurences, and you should be able to get in touch
with him (at least this is the return address given in Hoverlovers):

glzm...@tezlus.net

Chris

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Buy_Sell

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Mar 4, 2006, 9:54:45 PM3/4/06
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Another interesting hovercraft website that shows the different styles
of hoverskirts.

http://www.australianhovercraft.com/design_skirts.htm

PS: This website also has a very interesting section on WIG vehicles.

kach22i

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Mar 6, 2006, 2:37:19 PM3/6/06
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FYI: I've quoted "anonymous" in a thread - trust you don't mind
anonymous.

Here:
http://www.hoverclubofamerica.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=712

Buy_Sell

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Mar 6, 2006, 5:04:45 PM3/6/06
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Thanks for the link, I really enjoyed that.

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kach22i Mon, Mar 6 2006 12:37 pm

ewa...@netscape.net

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Mar 11, 2006, 12:46:40 AM3/11/06
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Just order the stuff from Sevtec or Universal over the phone and have
it shipped. Material may look the same as something from the above
companies but not be suitable at all . I made a skirt from vinyl
material that looked like Sevtecs but was not even close. It wore out
fast. Considering the time and effort needed to make a skirt it is not
worth experimenting .

quahog

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Mar 11, 2006, 9:26:54 AM3/11/06
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Generally speaking, both Universal and Sevtec recommend 18oz vinyl
coated (both sides) nylon for their skirts (bag skirts).

However, if you are looking to make a segmented finger skirt, then the
most frequently suggested/recommended material is 400 denier nylon pack
cloth. This is the cheapest and most easily worked material. Probably
the toughest fingerskirt material, and also most expensive, is Hypalon
as used by manufacturers such as Hovertechnics and others.

George Bottorf

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Mar 11, 2006, 2:30:37 PM3/11/06
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Howdy. Didn't someone use airbag material for their finger skirts? Seem
to remember they got it from Muritzon(sp). I wonder how it turned out.
Wear and tear,etc. Just curious. Thanks, George

Buy_Sell

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Mar 11, 2006, 3:45:57 PM3/11/06
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Has anyone tried ballistic nylon like they use in bullet proof jackets?
I've got samples of the recommended material that came with my
hovercraft plans. The material that I have is extremely thin like a
sheet of paper and very lightweight. It appears to be really tough
stuff.

Ken Roberts

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Mar 13, 2006, 1:44:03 PM3/13/06
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Charles Dixon did that. I don't know how it turned out, it was mauritzon.
Something like $3.50 a yard, I thought. Worth an experiment.

Ken Roberts

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Mar 13, 2006, 1:48:14 PM3/13/06
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Some folks also use neoprene coated nylon, which is definitely superior to vinyl
except that it can't be effectively glued. My vinyl-coated nylon skirts have no
stitching in them at all, and the seam is not usually what goes first.

In practice, this means that you need to sew every patch on a neoprene skirt.
That translates to more work and to new places for things to snag against your
skirt, but the material itself is much tougher.

Gordon McAndrew

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:51:00 PM3/25/06
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Hi Everyone;

I am still here and can get all kinds of fabrics. The specific one that is
used with bag skirted Hovercraft is 18oz vinyl impregnated I could sell for
about $8.25 CAD per yard 61 inch wide. I can get many more fabrics and
supplies from the same company e.g. HH-66 glue. I just have their sale
flyer here but there are something like 7,000 items in their full catalogue.

Gordon McAndrew
g l m c a n d @ t e l u s . n e t
glm...@telus.net
(I think the one or the other of the above will come through the system)

"C. Bailey" <re...@newsgroup.com> wrote:

;>Gordon McAndrew (just east of Edmonton) was selling skirt material similar

;>>
;>
Gordon McAndrew
glm...@telus.net
www.gordonsplace.info

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