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Globetrek

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Feb 15, 2008, 10:56:06 AM2/15/08
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I am curious as to the consencus on how Geocachers feel about the concept of
take something, leave something.. This has always been my goal, but have
found a large number that do not believe it is important. I suppose it is
along the lines of trade up, trade even, or just sign log.
How do you all rank on these concepts?

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ske...@gmail.com

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Feb 19, 2008, 12:16:26 PM2/19/08
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When we first started caching we would always trade something and make
sure that it was of equal or better quality compared to what we took.
However lately we just sign the log and don't bother with the loot
unless something catches our eye.

Its a game and people should play how they want, with the exception of
taking an item and leaving something of less value because that causes
the geocache to become less desirable by some people and makes work
for the cache owner to restock it.

Andrew Priest

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Feb 19, 2008, 7:10:10 PM2/19/08
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:16:26 -0800 (PST), "sk...@xmech.net"
<ske...@gmail.com> wrote:

>When we first started caching we would always trade something and make

>Its a game and people should play how they want, with the exception of


>taking an item and leaving something of less value because that causes
>the geocache to become less desirable by some people and makes work
>for the cache owner to restock it.

And more expense to the owner ... it isn't hard to do the right thing
in my view ..

Andrew
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Werner Henze

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Feb 20, 2008, 3:28:50 PM2/20/08
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Hi to all!

I am quite new to geocaching (36 finds so far). Here is my opinion.
Logging is a must, of course.
I always try to trade. I do not trade out more than I trade in. Since now I
did not find valuable stuff to trade out, so there never really was the
question if I trade up/even/down. I would prefer to not trade down but even
or up. Trading down might be OK if the difference is not too big.
Unfortunately most of the caches I found are micros. I feel a bit pity about
that because I do enjoy normal size caches with the possibility of trading.
Finding a micro size cache is just for logging, but finding a cache with
trading opportunity is more. It feels more like finding a treasure and gives
more surprise.

I think, talking about how people think about trading up/down/even leads us
to the question why people do geocaching. The reasons for doing geocaching
might give the answer to how people think about trading.

Kind regards,
Werner...
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Andrew Priest

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Feb 21, 2008, 7:37:15 AM2/21/08
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:28:50 +0100, Werner Henze
<werner...@alumni.tu-berlin.de> wrote:

>Hi to all!
>
>I am quite new to geocaching (36 finds so far). Here is my opinion.
>Logging is a must, of course.

Hi Werner

As the owner of one or two caches, I am now considering just putting
out empty containers, well with the log book etc but no swaps. Have
one so far and it seems to work okay. Might was save my money and
spend it elsewhere than on swaps which just get taken and replaced if
at all, with junk.

Regards

emanon

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Feb 21, 2008, 7:30:34 PM2/21/08
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"Globetrek" <glob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I am curious as to the consencus on how Geocachers feel about the concept
>of take something, leave something.. This has always been my goal, but have
>found a large number that do not believe it is important. I suppose it is
>along the lines of trade up, trade even, or just sign log.
> How do you all rank on these concepts?
>
>
First responder pretty well covered it.

Personally, I always sign the log, but I'm of an age where broken McToys
just don't do it for me and that's what I mostly find. I'm not in it for
the trade anyway, I just enjoy the hunt, so the log, meaning I've found it,
is my reward. I do carry a small stash of unusual shaped key carabiners (as
opposed to true climbing 'biners) and aluminium emergency whistles for trade
goods. With one exception, I've yet to come across anything that I wanted
that these were not at least an even exchange for. In that one case, I left
two goodies behind :-{)}

The title of the post says it all: Honor. How many of us have set up caches,
only to find them raided, in some instances multiple times. Talk about lack
of honor! One answer is to make the cache real difficult to find. That's not
something I favor too much. Which is not to say I think caches should be out
in the open as that defeats the purpose as well. The other alternative os to
place the cache in spots a little more remote. That's also a fine line. I
enjoy finding a cache that is worth the trip, but I don't want to travel
four hours to the trailhead and then spend two days packing in to the cache
either . . . not to say I wouldn't if it were some really unique spot.

All of this has made me take a break from 'caching for a while. Spring is
coming again, and I may resume with a renewed interest. I've even got a few
new locations in mind for establishing sonme new caches that might be worth
the trip and not out in the open, but moderately difficult.

Werner Henze

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Feb 24, 2008, 11:26:51 AM2/24/08
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Hi,

I do not own caches yet, but it is only a question of time :-).

I saw some (few) caches where the owner put in expensive stuff
initially. I would not do that. That does not mean that I would put
in junk only, but I would not buy expensive stuff to put it in the
cache initially. As you I do not believe that all geocachers would
be so fair to trade equal. It only needs a hand full of geocachers
who take out the good stuff and put in nothing or junk. And I do
believe there are a hand full of those people around. If they take
out the good stuff I would not refill the cache with goodies. If
the trading does not work I am not the one to buy gifts for others.
In my opinion hiding a cache is about sharing the fun of geocaching.
Hiding a cache is not for spending my money which I do not where to
spend otherwise.

If you tested putting out empty caches and they got filled up and
kept being filled that gives confidence into the geocacher community.
BTW, it would work with me :-), I just found a cache where I traded
in but not out.

Ciao,


Werner...
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nemo

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Feb 25, 2008, 8:17:59 AM2/25/08
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I have never seen a cache that got better stuff over time. I own
several caches and I often find they have gotten to the point where
they need to be cleaned out having gathered things like pencil
erasers, shoe laces and small coins.

I don't spend so much on the contents of my caches. Rather I try to
make the cache containers something that will stand up to the elements
(not always very easy) and make for a good hide. That reminds me, I
need to make a new container for a cache that has been leaking. I
like Lock 'n Lock containers, but they are not easy to cammo. I tried
painting one and it came out well, but the paint started flaking off
in no time. I even used a paint sold for use on plastic. Is there
any sort of primer to prepare the surface of plastic for paint?


Me

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Feb 25, 2008, 5:39:45 PM2/25/08
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Personally, I like finding swag in a cache, and I assume everyone else
does too. I've got a few cache hides, but by far the most popular is
one that uses a 5 gallon pail as the container. I placed it in honour
of Canada's last birthday and it was literally full of Canada souvenirs.
The listing said that each cacher could take one item for each member
of the caching party with no obligation to leave anything in return.
Sure, it cost a few bucks, but hey... it was either that or blow up the
money in fireworks!!!

steven brewster

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Feb 26, 2008, 7:00:51 PM2/26/08
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I personally, do not trade unless it is a travel bug or a geocoin. I
usually just sign log.

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Hal

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May 6, 2008, 3:58:05 PM5/6/08
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I used to trade but when I started finding rocks and junk in the caches I
was turned off. I actually used to use a sticker I printed that said
"haldodd was here" PLEASE DONT LEAVE JUNK!

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