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Lol

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Jul 17, 2009, 5:46:05 AM7/17/09
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Notalotta discussion going on here, which is why I completely missed the
fact that the Google Earth link for geocaching was going to be switched off-
until i tried to use it and it didn't work anymore.
Supposedly because only 200 people used it.

what, still no new posts in alt.rec.geocaching???
lol


rickman

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Jul 18, 2009, 12:03:04 PM7/18/09
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No, there is never a lot of activity here. That will change when
people start making first posts for others to follow up on.

What is this geocaching link in Google Earth? I have never heard of
it before. What did it do for you?

Rick

CJJE

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Jul 18, 2009, 12:13:19 PM7/18/09
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The geocaching link was from www.geocaching.com and provided a KML for
Google Earth so that you could use Google Earth to see geocaches
superimposed on you view of the earth.

It is now acknowledged that it has been removed by geocaching.com because
the traffic it generated when interrogating their cache locations) was
affecting the response time of their servers. They have also stated the "200
users" figure only referred to 200 heavy users and that many more geocachers
were using it occasionally during the day. There are several threads on the
geocaching.com forum that give further details.

Chris

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Lol

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Jul 19, 2009, 4:49:17 AM7/19/09
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"rickman" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Rick
============================================================================if we were visiting say, Epping Forest, we could browse around in GoogleEarth and any caches in the area we were visiting would pop up as icons.With links to send to GPS etc.Its how we have doing our geocaching for the 2-3 months we've been at it -and shared our enthusiasm to others, got them started. They are going to becoming back to us "that was a dead horse you gave me".The substitute we are supposed to use, Google maps, is pretty useless foroff road areas. Good for urban caching, but I don't much like those.Open Street maps http://www.openstreetmap.org/ are, however, excellent -they have all the little woodland foot and cycle paths, even some footpathsin our local area that I didn't know about. And we have even been able toinstall them on our Garmin Etrex, thanks to some kind person sussing out theconversion software.Now that is SO much better than paying Garmin �100's for their skimpy USbased maps.Wel pleased, just wish we had the caches on OpenStreetmapsExpect if someone found a way to do it, a commercial concern would find away to block it - "Oi! we could charge people for that!"lolHappy Geocaching

Lol

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Jul 19, 2009, 3:31:33 PM7/19/09
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"Lol" <lwo...@blublunder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Never seen that before - something stripped out all the <Newlines> - whose
been messin with my settings?
/paranoia mode off/
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Jul 26, 2009, 3:18:59 AM7/26/09
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"Chris Baird" <ab...@brushtail.apana.org.au> wrote in message
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> > until i tried to use it and it didn't work anymore.
>
> try:
> http://geocaching.com.au/caches/available.kml
>
> --
> Chris

Nice try, but same result - "Network KML link disabled"

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rickman

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Jul 29, 2009, 10:55:37 AM7/29/09
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On Jul 19, 4:49 am, "Lol" <lwol...@blublunder.co.uk> wrote:
> "rickman" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d3d8e8d9-d2e1-4da7...@o15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 17, 5:46 am, "Lol" <lwol...@blublunder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Notalotta discussion going on here, which is why I completely missed the
> > fact that the Google Earth link for geocaching was going to be switched
> > off-
> > until i tried to use it and it didn't work anymore.
> > Supposedly because only 200 people used it.
>
> > what, still no new posts in alt.rec.geocaching???
> > lol
>
> No, there is never a lot of activity here.  That will change when
> people start making first posts for others to follow up on.
>
> What is this geocaching link in Google Earth?  I have never heard of
> it before.  What did it do for you?
>
> Rick
>  ============================================================================if we were visiting say, Epping Forest, we could browse around in GoogleEarth and any caches in the area we were visiting would pop up as icons.With links to send to GPS etc.Its how we have doing our geocaching for the 2-3 months we've been at it -and shared our enthusiasm to others, got them started. They are going to becoming back to us "that was a dead horse you gave me".The substitute we are supposed to use, Google maps, is pretty useless foroff road areas. Good for urban caching, but I don't much like those.Open Street mapshttp://www.openstreetmap.org/are, however, excellent -they have all the little woodland foot and cycle paths, even some footpathsin our local area that I didn't know about. And we have even been able toinstall them on our Garmin Etrex, thanks to some kind person sussing out theconversion software.Now that is SO much better than paying Garmin £100's for their skimpy USbased maps.Wel pleased, just wish we had the caches on OpenStreetmapsExpect if someone found a way to do it, a commercial concern would find away to block it - "Oi! we could charge people for that!"lolHappy Geocaching

I don't think it would be practical to put geocaches on
openstreetmap. The geocache locations are very fluid with caches
coming and going. Better would be a way to overlay the geocache info
from gc.com on any streetmap data. Also, even though you created the
caches, gc.com owns anything that comes from their web site, at least
if it comes "directly" from their website. So trying to read the
gc.com data into the osm database would be problematic unless it were
all done by hand. On the other hand, osm could become the mapping arm
of a separate web site for listing caches.

Personally, I am a bit tired of gc.com and many of the people who are
a significant part of it. I think the commercial nature of gc.com has
colored (or coloured if you are in the UK) the nature of "geocaching"
and have been moving over to terracaching. I hadn't thought of it
before, but a caching connection to osm might be a good way to attract
the serious cachers without so much dilution.

As to the GPS receiver issue, for some time now, I have had in my mind
the idea of creating an open source GPS receiver. The primary map
source would be osm. Every aspect of the product would be open source
and reconfigurable so that the user interface would evolve into
several versions for several different applications, specialized and
optimized for each as well as databases which include specialized
information for each.

We'll see if I find the time to get this off the ground.

Rick

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