How about some civility on ARBR for a change?
Edward Dolan
constantly takes place on ARBR. Why is it not possible to say whatever it is
you have to freaking say without resorting to casting aspersions on such a
fine gentleman and scholar as myself.
I urge all of you to review the posts of Ed Dolan the Great in order to know
not only what to say, but how to say it. I am now approaching over 8000
posts to this worthless newsgroup known as ARBR and I can't tell you how fed
up I am with the lot of you. Frankly, I do not know if I will make it to my
goal of posting 10,000 messages on this group. Some days I wallow in a pond
of despond at all the idiots, morons and cretins that I have to put up with
here on ARBR.
Just because you have no intelligence does not mean that you can't at least
be civil. I urge one and all to act like human beings instead of like the
crazed beasts that you are. Yea, one day I leave you and then you will
regret not having the Great Ed Dolan to kick around anymore.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
fol...@innercite.com
Pinky
news:1158582224.8...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>I just love you, Ed! You are my hero. Keep up the good work!
I "plonked" Dolan years ago. You have just joined him.
He talks drivel and cross posts to ruin as many NG's as he likes -- as you
have just done
Goodbye.
stratrider
heard by others. On the subject of cycling, have you done any
cycling/touring along the North Shore of your beautiful State? In 2004
I traveled by car on a family vacation from Thunder Bay to Duluth
wishing I had my bike the whole time! What a beautiful drive!
Superior is amazing! I am certain it would be a great area tour on a
bike!
Jim Reilly
Reading, PA
John Hearns
Stop.
Crossposting.
You.
Blethering.
Eejits.
JimmyMac
Edward Dolan wrote:
> I am fed up with all the skullduggery and just plain bad temper that
> constantly takes place on ARBR. Why is it not possible to say whatever it is
> you have to freaking say without resorting to casting aspersions on such a
> fine gentleman and scholar as myself.
All I ever want to do is to defeat and humiliate you, but how can I do
that if you refuse to post your idiotic messages. Please show some
consideration for the Great Ed Dolan and post to these cycling
newsgroups... Ed Dolan
> I urge all of you to review the posts of Ed Dolan the Great in order to know
> not only what to say, but how to say it. I am now approaching over 8000
> posts to this worthless newsgroup known as ARBR and I can't tell you how fed
> up I am with the lot of you. Frankly, I do not know if I will make it to my
> goal of posting 10,000 messages on this group. Some days I wallow in a pond
> of despond at all the idiots, morons and cretins that I have to put up with
> here on ARBR.
Usenet is strictly for idiots, assholes and jerks - positively no
exceptions! When I am on Usenet I try to be the biggest idiot, asshole
and jerk of them all. I set the standard for one and all. I believe I
can state with absolute assurance that I am the Greatest Idiot, the
Greatest Asshole and the Greatest Jerk that Usenet has ever known in
its' long and dishonored history. For Christ's sakes, I prove it every
time I post. Can't any of you poor bastards read? ... Ed Dolan
> Just because you have no intelligence does not mean that you can't at least
> be civil. I urge one and all to act like human beings instead of like the
> crazed beasts that you are. Yea, one day I leave you and then you will
> regret not having the Great Ed Dolan to kick around anymore.
I frankly do not have the slightest idea what newsgroups are all about.
I am merely a gadfly buzzing about this group ever striving to create
some mayhem. I am superfluous. Think of me as the buffoon of ARBR and
you will not be far wrong...Ed Dolan
bryanska
> goal of posting 10,000 messages on this group. Some days I wallow in a pond
> of despond at all the idiots, morons and cretins that I have to put up with
> here on ARBR.
>
Dude, there is nothing honorable about a 10,000 post goal.
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
butbutbut [1], cross posting is one of the best ways to start Usenet
Flame Wars!
[1] Gratuitous gdanielism.
--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.
I am supporting cannibalism by eating more nuts.
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
WHOOOOOSH!
Raptor
> I am fed up with all the skullduggery and just plain bad temper that
> constantly takes place on ARBR. Why is it not possible to say whatever it is
> you have to freaking say without resorting to casting aspersions on such a
> fine gentleman and scholar as myself.
"Go fuck yourself."
Vice President Richard Cheney, on the floor of the United States Senate
--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.
Bill Sornson
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> I am fed up with all the skullduggery and just plain bad temper that
>> constantly takes place on ARBR. Why is it not possible to say
>> whatever it is you have to freaking say without resorting to casting
>> aspersions on such a fine gentleman and scholar as myself.
>
> "Go fuck yourself."
> Vice President Richard Cheney, on the floor of the United States
> Senate
You act like he said it "on the record" or in a speech or something.
What would you say to someone who went around calling you all kinds of vile
names -- /on the record/ -- behind your back, but then tried to glad-hand
you for public consumption.
Leahy is one of the biggest dickheads in Washington. Telling him to go fuck
himself was quite an appropriate comment.
(Come to think of it, I see why you quoted it.) <eg>
Edward Dolan
"stratrider" <jre...@enter.net> wrote in message
news:1158583547.1...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Hi Jim.
I once drove around Lake Superior many years ago in the month of August
expecting halfway decent weather. Hells Bells, I might just as well have
been in the high arctic. Low and heavy clouds hung over me for the entire
two weeks it took me to get around the Lake. It rained every other day and
was cold as hell. Nothing but gloom and doom all the way. All those damn
spruce trees dripping with moss made me wish I was dead.
You have to very careful once you get into Canada as there are only the main
roads and everyone is on them as there are no alternatives. North of Lake
Superior there is nothing, but even north of Thunder Bay (the old Fort
William and Port Arthur) there is not much. Frankly I gave up on the North
Woods years ago. It is basically nothing but a Green Hell.
I am a man of the Southwest and I love the deserts and the mountains of that
region. But it was my fate to be born and to have to live in dreadful
Minnesota where I am constantly assailed by nerds, jerks and all-around
assholes. But I am preparing to leave this world in any event for a far, far
better place known as Oblivion.
Edward Dolan
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunset...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158627235....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> John Hearns wrote:
>> Stop.
>> Crossposting.
>> You.
>> Blethering.
>> Eejits.
>
> butbutbut [1], cross posting is one of the best ways to start Usenet
> Flame Wars!
>
> [1] Gratuitous gdanielism.
But it is also a good way to get some more input here on ARBR. We have grown
incestuous and need some outsiders to freshen things up.
I am planning to post an original message very early on Mondays from now on
and it will be to multiple newsgroups since I am never on-topic anyway. It
will always be general in nature and will apply to any and all newsgroups
which have ever existed. My only aim, as always, will be to stir things up.
Stay tuned.
Edward Dolan
"bryanska" <BARRE...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
news:1158615254.3...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Well, Mr. Tom Sherman of ARBR has mentioned his 10,000 posts several times
over the course of the years. You do not think I am going to let a liberal
left wing ding bat (all one word) like him be the most prolific poster of
all time to ARBR do you? If I allowed that, then I would not be Great - and
as you well know I am Ed Dolan the Great, not Ed Dolan the Lessor. So I have
to at least equal his miserable 10,000 posts.
Edward Dolan
"Raptor" <law...@xmission.com> wrote in message
news:eenrc1$r6t$2...@news.xmission.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> I am fed up with all the skullduggery and just plain bad temper that
>> constantly takes place on ARBR. Why is it not possible to say whatever it
>> is you have to freaking say without resorting to casting aspersions on
>> such a fine gentleman and scholar as myself.
>
> "Go fuck yourself."
> Vice President Richard Cheney, on the floor of the United States
> Senate
He said that to Senator Leahy of Vermont and I heartily second his motion.
But fuck all the Senate liberal 'cut and run' Dems, most especially
including Kennedy and Kerry. What the hell is there about Massachusetts that
only assholes come from there. Even Minnesota is not as bad as Mass.
although still too liberal to suit me.
Edward Dolan
"JimmyMac" <jimmy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158601013....@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> I am fed up with all the skullduggery and just plain bad temper that
>> constantly takes place on ARBR. Why is it not possible to say whatever it
>> is
>> you have to freaking say without resorting to casting aspersions on such
>> a
>> fine gentleman and scholar as myself.
>
> All I ever want to do is to defeat and humiliate you, but how can I do
> that if you refuse to post your idiotic messages. Please show some
> consideration for the Great Ed Dolan and post to these cycling
> newsgroups... Ed Dolan
Ed, I couldn't agree with you more. Keep up the good work!
>> I urge all of you to review the posts of Ed Dolan the Great in order to
>> know
>> not only what to say, but how to say it. I am now approaching over 8000
>> posts to this worthless newsgroup known as ARBR and I can't tell you how
>> fed
>> up I am with the lot of you. Frankly, I do not know if I will make it to
>> my
>> goal of posting 10,000 messages on this group. Some days I wallow in a
>> pond
>> of despond at all the idiots, morons and cretins that I have to put up
>> with
>> here on ARBR.
>
> Usenet is strictly for idiots, assholes and jerks - positively no
> exceptions! When I am on Usenet I try to be the biggest idiot, asshole
> and jerk of them all. I set the standard for one and all. I believe I
> can state with absolute assurance that I am the Greatest Idiot, the
> Greatest Asshole and the Greatest Jerk that Usenet has ever known in
> its' long and dishonored history. For Christ's sakes, I prove it every
> time I post. Can't any of you poor bastards read? ... Ed Dolan
Ed, you are just too Great for the miserable slobs that infest this group.
They are not worthy of you!
>> Just because you have no intelligence does not mean that you can't at
>> least
>> be civil. I urge one and all to act like human beings instead of like the
>> crazed beasts that you are. Yea, one day I leave you and then you will
>> regret not having the Great Ed Dolan to kick around anymore.
>
> I frankly do not have the slightest idea what newsgroups are all about.
> I am merely a gadfly buzzing about this group ever striving to create
> some mayhem. I am superfluous. Think of me as the buffoon of ARBR and
> you will not be far wrong...Ed Dolan
Ed, I think you may be a genius. ARBR needs you badly. Without you, we would
all be lost and gone to Hell!
Edward Dolan
"John Hearns" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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The other cycling newsgroups badly need some input from a genius like me.
They are even more idiotic than is ARBR. I will grace them with my presence
from time to time so that they will be touched however briefly by true
genius. Just because they are ignorant and foolish does not mean they should
be deprived of my Greatness.
Edward Dolan
"Pinky" <ta...@PSANTISPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> you have just done [.]
> Goodbye.
Hello and goodbye all in one message? Jeez, Pinky, I hardly knew ya!
Chris Foster
news:PNedndjMrv9sKJLY...@prairiewave.com:
Ed,
If you stop running your mouth, and everybody off, there would be plenty
of civility and poeple to read your blatherings
Chris
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Raptor
> What would you say to someone who went around calling you all kinds of vile
> names -- /on the record/ -- behind your back, but then tried to glad-hand
> you for public consumption.
Polite, or polit-ish.
Raptor
Ah, so rudeness and crudeness is appropriate when used against a reputed
asshole.
Go fuck yourself.
:)
Bill Sornson
> Bill Sornson wrote:
>> What would you say to someone who went around calling you all kinds
>> of vile names -- /on the record/ -- behind your back, but then tried
>> to glad-hand you for public consumption.
> Polite, or polit-ish.
I'd call him (or her) a lying, hypocritical spineless weasel and quite
possibly suggest they perform an anatomically unlikely feat with him (or
her) self. And I'd do it privately, so if it got out then the person was
obviously a tattle-tale lying, hypocritical....yada yada yada.
Why be a door mat?
Edward Dolan
"Chris Foster" <edo...@iw.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98438066...@66.150.105.47...
[newsgroups retored]
> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote in
> news:PNedndjMrv9sKJLY...@prairiewave.com:
>
>>
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunset...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:1158627235....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> John Hearns wrote:
>>>> Stop.
>>>> Crossposting.
>>>> You.
>>>> Blethering.
>>>> Eejits.
>>>
>>> butbutbut [1], cross posting is one of the best ways to start Usenet
>>> Flame Wars!
>>>
>>> [1] Gratuitous gdanielism.
>>
>> But it is also a good way to get some more input here on ARBR. We have
>> grown incestuous and need some outsiders to freshen things up.
>>
>> I am planning to post an original message very early on Mondays from
>> now on and it will be to multiple newsgroups since I am never on-topic
>> anyway. It will always be general in nature and will apply to any and
>> all newsgroups which have ever existed. My only aim, as always, will
>> be to stir things up. Stay tuned.
>
> Ed,
> If you stop running your mouth, and everybody off, there would be plenty
> of civility and poeple to read your blatherings
> Chris
Always good to hear from the peanut gallery. Too bad they never have
anything to say other than to touch base with one so Great as Myself.
Edward Dolan
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Raptor" <law...@xmission.com> wrote in message
>> news:eenrc1$r6t$2...@news.xmission.com...
>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> I am fed up with all the skullduggery and just plain bad temper that
>>>> constantly takes place on ARBR. Why is it not possible to say whatever
>>>> it is you have to freaking say without resorting to casting aspersions
>>>> on such a fine gentleman and scholar as myself.
>>> "Go fuck yourself."
>>> Vice President Richard Cheney, on the floor of the United States
>>> Senate
>>
>> He said that to Senator Leahy of Vermont and I heartily second his
>> motion. But fuck all the Senate liberal 'cut and run' Dems, most
>> especially including Kennedy and Kerry. What the hell is there about
>> Massachusetts that only assholes come from there. Even Minnesota is not
>> as bad as Mass. although still too liberal to suit me.
>
> asshole.
>
> Go fuck yourself.
>
You are the only crude bastard here as you prove every time you post. But if
I had a fucking English name like yours I would definitely devote myself to
being fucked full time by every asshole that came down the pike. That is all
you and your cowardly ilk (far left wing liberal ding bats - all one word)
are good for these days. What kind of name is Lynn - and Wallace? Christ,
give me a break!
Bill Baka
> You are the only crude bastard here as you prove every time you post. But if
> I had a fucking English name like yours I would definitely devote myself to
> being fucked full time by every asshole that came down the pike. That is all
> you and your cowardly ilk (far left wing liberal ding bats - all one word)
> are good for these days. What kind of name is Lynn - and Wallace? Christ,
> give me a break!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
If anybody is wondering why I am not posting, this is a good example.
No bike related stuff.
R Brickston
Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raptor
Ah, that's more like it! No more pompous faux benevolence, no more
sanctimony, no more play-acting with fancy words and very loose
interpretation of carefully-chosen facts. Just roughly strewn-together
obscenity and bigotry worthy of any Bahston pub, circa 1:30 AM.
Now, you're more interesting. Well, more real.
You could use a bit more practice though. The profanity doesn't exactly
flow from your fingertips like virgin cunt cream. I suggest some study
of alt.sex.stories.
Raptor
We're just repeating a conversation from last weekend's peloton.
Edward Dolan
Nope, the above is nothing but more Ed Dolan subterfuge, all of it strictly
tongue in cheek. But stay tuned, if I really get pissed off at you, you will
know it and there will be no mistake about what I intend.
> Now, you're more interesting. Well, more real.
>
> You could use a bit more practice though. The profanity doesn't exactly
> flow from your fingertips like virgin cunt cream. I suggest some study of
> alt.sex.stories.
I leave the above slime to you and your drinking buds there in freaking
Boston, Massachusetts. But I like your reference to cunt. Now be sure to
mention cock while you are at it. And do not ever neglect to reference your
favorite word in all the world - fuck! Let's see, what do we have here -
cunt, cock and fuck. Yup, all four letter words. Right up Lynn Wallace's
alley.
After all, you do not want your drinking buds there in soggy old Boston to
think you are some kind of fairy. And hey, what about those g.d. Red Sox!
Chris Foster
That should read
Ed Dolan the NARCISSISTIC
Chris Foster
I think everybody here agrees with him.
If everybody thinks you are an asshole, and you dont, are you?
Edward Dolan
>>>> I am planning to post an original message very early on Mondays from
>>>> now on and it will be to multiple newsgroups since I am never
>>>> on-topic anyway. It will always be general in nature and will apply
>>>> to any and all newsgroups which have ever existed. My only aim, as
>>>> always, will be to stir things up. Stay tuned.
>>>
>>> Ed,
>>> If you stop running your mouth, and everybody off, there would be
>>> plenty
>>> of civility and poeple to read your blatherings
>>> Chris
>>
>> Always good to hear from the peanut gallery. Too bad they never have
>> anything to say other than to touch base with one so Great as Myself.
>>
> That should read
>
> Ed Dolan the NARCISSISTIC
I never even look at myself in mirrors. Sometimes when I am walking down the
street and I see my reflection in a store window I am startled by my own
appearance. It is like ... who is that?
Edward Dolan
>
> If everybody thinks you are an asshole, and you dont, are you?
Get real Foster. If someone calls you an asshole or tells you to go fuck
yourself, you are going to return the compliment, aren't you? This is why
name calling never works on Usenet. I prefer never to do it myself, but I
will return tit for tat. There is no other way unless you want the
vulgarians to have the last word.
Maria Teresa Chupacabra
"Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote in message
news:CqSdnZWFI_ZVnY7Y...@prairiewave.com...
>
> I never even look at myself in mirrors. Sometimes when I am walking down
> the street and I see my reflection in a store window I am startled by my
> own appearance. It is like ... who is that?
"Some people see things as they are, and ask 'Why?'
Others see things as they have never been, and ask 'Why not?'
Me, I pretty much walk around all day going 'What the fuck??'"
John Fitzgerald Handy
Raptor
>> sanctimony, no more play-acting with fancy words and very loose
>> interpretation of carefully-chosen facts. Just roughly strewn-together
>> obscenity and bigotry worthy of any Bahston pub, circa 1:30 AM.
>
> Nope, the above is nothing but more Ed Dolan subterfuge, all of it strictly
> tongue in cheek. But stay tuned, if I really get pissed off at you, you will
> know it and there will be no mistake about what I intend.
Intriguing, especially if true.
Is this a case of a craftily laid trap or after-the-fact nimbleness? A
change of mood due to a significantly smaller or greater consumption of
3.2% beer at one time or other?
Just another in an ever-growing list of unknowables. Mystery is indeed
the spice of life.
>> Now, you're more interesting. Well, more real.
>>
>> You could use a bit more practice though. The profanity doesn't exactly
>> flow from your fingertips like virgin cunt cream. I suggest some study of
>> alt.sex.stories.
>
> I leave the above slime to you and your drinking buds there in freaking
> Boston, Massachusetts. But I like your reference to cunt. Now be sure to
> mention cock while you are at it. And do not ever neglect to reference your
> favorite word in all the world - fuck! Let's see, what do we have here -
> cunt, cock and fuck. Yup, all four letter words. Right up Lynn Wallace's
> alley.
Actually, I've never been to Boston, but "Lynn" is a four-letter word.
> After all, you do not want your drinking buds there in soggy old Boston to
> think you are some kind of fairy. And hey, what about those g.d. Red Sox!
Who gives a shit about some lame-ass baseball team? The fat bastards
spend most of their time in "competition" either sitting or standing. I
prefer athleticism in my athletic competition.
Edward Dolan
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Raptor" <law...@xmission.com> wrote in message
>>> Ah, that's more like it! No more pompous faux benevolence, no more
>>> sanctimony, no more play-acting with fancy words and very loose
>>> interpretation of carefully-chosen facts. Just roughly strewn-together
>>> obscenity and bigotry worthy of any Bahston pub, circa 1:30 AM.
>>
>> Nope, the above is nothing but more Ed Dolan subterfuge, all of it
>> strictly tongue in cheek. But stay tuned, if I really get pissed off at
>> you, you will know it and there will be no mistake about what I intend.
>
> Intriguing, especially if true.
>
> Is this a case of a craftily laid trap or after-the-fact nimbleness? A
> change of mood due to a significantly smaller or greater consumption of
> 3.2% beer at one time or other?
>
> Just another in an ever-growing list of unknowables. Mystery is indeed the
> spice of life.
3.2 beer or any other kind of beer is for barbarians. I am strictly into
wine, but only a single brand, Livingston Cellars Red Rose. It is the
cheapest wine you can buy but very good as it does not give me a headache.
I like to just sort of sip it as I post to Usenet. I will admit that I
occasionally sip a bit too much which causes me to go berserk and say things
that even I don't recognize later on. I ask myself - did I really write
that? Sometimes under such circumstances I am brilliant and at other times I
am just plain dumb.
[...]
Earl Purple
Edward Dolan wrote:
> I am fed up with all the skullduggery and just plain bad temper that
> constantly takes place on ARBR. Why is it not possible to say whatever it is
> you have to freaking say without resorting to casting aspersions on such a
> fine gentleman and scholar as myself.
>
You should take all this to uk.sheds and whatever worldwide equivalent
there is. That group is there specifically for ranting about anything
you want.
bill
<snip>
>> Just another in an ever-growing list of unknowables. Mystery is indeed the
>> spice of life.
>
> 3.2 beer or any other kind of beer is for barbarians. I am strictly into
> wine, but only a single brand, Livingston Cellars Red Rose. It is the
> cheapest wine you can buy but very good as it does not give me a headache.
After many years of beer drinking I found it to be just not worth it.
An occasional beer in the middle of a ride was refreshing but usually
overpriced at a quickie mart. Back to O.J., V-8, and Gatorade.
>
> I like to just sort of sip it as I post to Usenet. I will admit that I
> occasionally sip a bit too much which causes me to go berserk and say things
> that even I don't recognize later on. I ask myself - did I really write
> that? Sometimes under such circumstances I am brilliant and at other times I
> am just plain dumb.
> [...]
Sorry Ed, I will have to go with the just plain dumb.
Bill Baka
Edward Dolan
"bill" <bb...@syix.com> wrote in message
news:2DySg.9150$6S3....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Raptor" <law...@xmission.com> wrote in message
>> news:eevncm$465$1...@news.xmission.com...
> <snip>
>>> Just another in an ever-growing list of unknowables. Mystery is indeed
>>> the spice of life.
>>
>> 3.2 beer or any other kind of beer is for barbarians. I am strictly into
>> wine, but only a single brand, Livingston Cellars Red Rose. It is the
>> cheapest wine you can buy but very good as it does not give me a
>> headache.
>
> After many years of beer drinking I found it to be just not worth it.
> An occasional beer in the middle of a ride was refreshing but usually
> overpriced at a quickie mart. Back to O.J., V-8, and Gatorade.
>>
>> I like to just sort of sip it as I post to Usenet. I will admit that I
>> occasionally sip a bit too much which causes me to go berserk and say
>> things that even I don't recognize later on. I ask myself - did I really
>> write that? Sometimes under such circumstances I am brilliant and at
>> other times I am just plain dumb.
>> [...]
>
> Sorry Ed, I will have to go with the just plain dumb.
I am the best judge of myself. I know you think that about yourself too. I
will admit I can get dumbed down if I have to answer too many idiots. I
really only shine when I am conversing with a fellow genius.
Edward Dolan
"Earl Purple" <earlp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159375862....@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
But I am not crazy like they are and that is a critical difference. I need
folks around me who are sane and you will find nothing but freaks and
criminals on kook groups. Most of them do not have brains enough to come in
out of the rain
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>
> 3.2 beer or any other kind of beer is for barbarians....
I have not heard of "3.2" Beer, but I do like Goose Island 312 (but
have trouble finding it locally). I may have to travel to the land of
the FIBS to get some.
--
Tom "Ex FIB" Sherman - Here, not there.
bill
> "bill" <bb...@syix.com> wrote in message
> news:2DySg.9150$6S3....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "Raptor" <law...@xmission.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eevncm$465$1...@news.xmission.com...
>> <snip>
>>>> Just another in an ever-growing list of unknowables. Mystery is indeed
>>>> the spice of life.
>>> 3.2 beer or any other kind of beer is for barbarians. I am strictly into
>>> wine, but only a single brand, Livingston Cellars Red Rose. It is the
>>> cheapest wine you can buy but very good as it does not give me a
>>> headache.
>> After many years of beer drinking I found it to be just not worth it.
>> An occasional beer in the middle of a ride was refreshing but usually
>> overpriced at a quickie mart. Back to O.J., V-8, and Gatorade.
>>> I like to just sort of sip it as I post to Usenet. I will admit that I
>>> occasionally sip a bit too much which causes me to go berserk and say
>>> things that even I don't recognize later on. I ask myself - did I really
>>> write that? Sometimes under such circumstances I am brilliant and at
>>> other times I am just plain dumb.
>>> [...]
>> Sorry Ed, I will have to go with the just plain dumb.
OK,
You have had some good moments.
Bill
JimmyMac
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> >
> > 3.2 beer or any other kind of beer is for barbarians....
>
> I have not heard of "3.2" Beer, but I do like Goose Island 312 (but
> have trouble finding it locally). I may have to travel to the land of
> the FIBS to get some.
3.2 beer refers to alcohol percentage and is the beer strength commonly
available in college towns and military bases. 312 refers to the old
Chicago area code and is a wheat beer.
Jim McNamara
JimmyMac
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> >
> > 3.2 beer or any other kind of beer is for barbarians....
>
> I have not heard of "3.2" Beer, but I do like Goose Island 312 (but
> have trouble finding it locally). I may have to travel to the land of
> the FIBS to get some.
3.2 refers to alcohol percentage and is the beer strength commonly
available in college towns and military bases. 312 refers to the old
Chicago area code and is a wheat beer.
Jim McNamara
> Tom "Ex FIB" Sherman - Here, not there.
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
JimmyMac aka Jim McNamara wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> > Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> > >
> > > 3.2 beer or any other kind of beer is for barbarians....
> >
> > I have not heard of "3.2" Beer, but I do like Goose Island 312 (but
> > have trouble finding it locally). I may have to travel to the land of
> > the FIBS to get some.
>
> 3.2 beer refers to alcohol percentage and is the beer strength commonly
> available in college towns and military bases. 312 refers to the old
> Chicago area code and is a wheat beer.
You can usually find Goose Island 312 in the hinterlands (Kane County),
which was in the 312 area code up until the about 15 years ago, when
the increasing number of mobile phones, fax machines and Internet
dedicated phone lines, along with increasing population growth mandated
new area codes with a middle digit other than 0 or 1.
--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.
JimmyMac
Availability is not the issue for me. I can find 312 locally. I just
don'tdrink what I don't like and I'm not a wheat beer drinker.
According to Ed Dolan, I supose that would make me a selective
barbarian, but what the hell does that fat old wino know about the
history and culture of beer brewing and beer consumption anyways.
Jim McNamara
Edward Dolan
"JimmyMac" <jimmy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159567937.7...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> Availability is not the issue for me. I can find 312 locally. I just
> According to Ed Dolan, I supose that would make me a selective
> barbarian, but what the hell does that fat old wino know about the
Did the ancient Romans of either the Republic or the Empire drink beer? Of
course not! They drank wine, the nectar of the Gods. Only the northern
European barbarians drank beer.
JimmyMac
What we have here is more of Ed Dolan opinion stated as fact. Ed ...
pull up a chair. The lecture to dispel your disinformation is about to
commence. These are the FACTS...
Although different grains were used in different cultures, beer was a
vital part of the Sumerian, Babylonian, Assyrian, Egyptian and Inca
cultures just to name a few. The statement that ONLY the Northern
Europeans drank beer is obviously FALSE!!! Furthermore, the peoples of
these civilizations cannot possibly be considered barbarians merely
because they brewed and consumed beer. Now let's examine the statement
that ancient Romans did not drink beer. This too is FALSE!!! Plato
wrote, "He was a wise man who invented beer." The Greeks taught the
Romans how to brew beer. The Romans brewed "cerevisia" (CERES the
goddess of agriculture and VIS meaning strength in Latin). Julius
Caesar, in 49 BC following the crossing of the River Rubicon,
commencing the Roman Civil War, toasted his soldiers with beer, not
wine. Plinius reported of the popularity of beer in the Mediterranean
area before the growing of grapes for wine even took hold. In Rome
itself, wine became the drink of the gods (Bacchus), although beer was
still brewed in the outer areas of the Roman Empire where wine was
difficult to obtain. Eventually, most Romans almost exclusively drank
wine and like Dolan regarded those who drank beer as barbarians. As
for the Northern Europeans, they were introduced to beer in 55 BC by
are you ready for this??? ... none other than the Roman legions during
their war campaigns. The classical writers Pliny and Tacitus recorded
the introduction and development of the beer brewing among the Celtic
peoples of Britain and the Teutonic peoples or Europe.
I've said this before, but it bears repeating. Ed Dolan knows very
little about beer, but he doesn't let that cramp his style. It is his
trademark to run his mouth even when he doesn't know what the hell he's
talking about and yet this dunderhead considers himself to be great???
The conundrum continues!!!
Jim McNamara
Edward Dolan
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
All of the above is total nonsense. Every Hollywood movie I have ever seen
shows the Roman patricians lounging about drinking wine. Jim needs to see
more movies and do less mucking about in history books.
By the way, an interesting aside is that the Roman Empire may have fallen
due to the habit of Romans drinking their wine out of lead goblets.
Apparently, the lead got into their bodies and prevented them from
reproducing. Of course, the barbarians were drinking beer out of hog troughs
and so had no trouble reproducing themselves.
JimmyMac
If all the above is total nonsense as you claim, then prove me wrong.
All of the above is easily verifiable. Ed, do the reaserch and learn
something for a change before running you rmouth ... you jackass. I
now understand why you are so fucked up. Readesr, please note that Ed
Dolan thinks that Hollwood mirrors reality and his knowledgee base is
founded on the historical distortions of the holywood sript writer. Ed
Dolan needs to put his rusty librarian sklls to good use so as to spare
himself further embarrassment.
> Every Hollywood movie I have ever seen
> shows the Roman patricians lounging about drinking wine. Jim needs to see
> more movies and do less mucking about in history books.
History books better reflect history than does Hollyweird. Ed is
swayed by fiction. He is obviously not a scholar.
> By the way, an interesting aside is that the Roman Empire may have fallen
> due to the habit of Romans drinking their wine out of lead goblets.
> Apparently, the lead got into their bodies and prevented them from
> reproducing. Of course, the barbarians were drinking beer out of hog troughs
> and so had no trouble reproducing themselves.
By the way, they even used lead as a seasoning, added it to wine as a
preservative, and even used it as a form of spermicidal birth control.
The Romans knew lead caused health problems, but they were oh so fond
of it that they downplayed the consequences, which is why they found
themselves ruled by the likes of Caligula and Nero. Remeber readers
the Romans are the very same folks that Ed Dolan regards as above
everyone else simply because they drank wine (and lead).. The
"barbarian" beer drinker who did not drink beer from lead goblets
aren't looking quite so barbaric now are they???
Jim McNamara
JimmyMac
You constantly run your mouth even when you don't know what you're
talking about. First you demonstrated how little you know beer and now
you are demonstrating how littly you know about the Romans and those
whom you refer to as barbarians. I refer you to my longer response in
this regard. You just don't know when to quit so as to cut you losses,
do you dunder-HEAD Dolan??? - Jim McNamara
Edward Dolan
Nope, the Romans were civilized by the standards of that day and the
barbarians were not. The Romans drank wine and the barbarians drank beer or
whatever rot gut they were able to brew. When Rome fell, the medieval period
began and only the Irish monasteries prevented Europe from remaining forever
in a Dark Age.
Edward Dolan
Jim needs to go to more Hollywood movies, especially those from the 1950's.
If he does, he will see Roman patricians lounging about drinking nothing but
wine. I recommend "The Robe" which stars Richard Burton. There he will see
what the Romans drank.
>> Every Hollywood movie I have ever seen
>> shows the Roman patricians lounging about drinking wine. Jim needs to see
>> more movies and do less mucking about in history books.
>
> History books better reflect history than does Hollyweird. Ed is
> swayed by fiction. He is obviously not a scholar.
I reserve my scholarship for things that matter to me. I hate beer and I
love wine. What else do I ever need to know about the subject.
>> By the way, an interesting aside is that the Roman Empire may have fallen
>> due to the habit of Romans drinking their wine out of lead goblets.
>> Apparently, the lead got into their bodies and prevented them from
>> reproducing. Of course, the barbarians were drinking beer out of hog
>> troughs
>> and so had no trouble reproducing themselves.
>
> By the way, they even used lead as a seasoning, added it to wine as a
> preservative, and even used it as a form of spermicidal birth control.
> The Romans knew lead caused health problems, but they were oh so fond
> of it that they downplayed the consequences, which is why they found
> themselves ruled by the likes of Caligula and Nero.
I don't believe the Romans were aware of any birth control or health hazards
in connection with wine at all. They drank wine from lead goblets because
they liked the way it tasted.
Remeber readers
> the Romans are the very same folks that Ed Dolan regards as above
> everyone else simply because they drank wine (and lead).. The
> "barbarian" beer drinker who did not drink beer from lead goblets
> aren't looking quite so barbaric now are they???
The Romans were above everyone else because they were civilized and founded
an Empire to prove it.
bill
> "JimmyMac" <jimmy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1159855278....@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You guys should get a chat room of you own and argue your fingers bloody.
I am tempted to try some of the Samuel Adams that I have seen advertised
even though I quit drinking anything with Alcohol 3 years ago. It just
looks so good.
Wine.???
I like champagne and Cabernet Sauvignon.
Bill Baka
Mark Hickey
Shouldn't that be "liked"?
Congrats on three years, BTW. That takes some stones.
Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame
JimmyMac
At least enough knowledge to carry on an intelligent conversation
concerning the subject matter.
> >> By the way, an interesting aside is that the Roman Empire may have fallen
> >> due to the habit of Romans drinking their wine out of lead goblets.
> >> Apparently, the lead got into their bodies and prevented them from
> >> reproducing. Of course, the barbarians were drinking beer out of hog
> >> troughs
> >> and so had no trouble reproducing themselves.
> >
> > By the way, they even used lead as a seasoning, added it to wine as a
> > preservative, and even used it as a form of spermicidal birth control.
> > The Romans knew lead caused health problems, but they were oh so fond
> > of it that they downplayed the consequences, which is why they found
> > themselves ruled by the likes of Caligula and Nero.
>
> I don't believe the Romans were aware of any birth control or health hazards
> in connection with wine at all. They drank wine from lead goblets because
> they liked the way it tasted.
What you believe matters not. One thing you have yet to learn is that
opinions are subjective and facts are objective (and verifiable). You
constantly interject opninions stated as though they were facts not
need of substantiative verification.
> Remeber readers
> > the Romans are the very same folks that Ed Dolan regards as above
> > everyone else simply because they drank wine (and lead).. The
> > "barbarian" beer drinker who did not drink beer from lead goblets
> > aren't looking quite so barbaric now are they???
>
> The Romans were above everyone else because they were civilized and founded
> an Empire to prove it.
And the founding of an empire is proof of civilization???
Jim McNamara
JimmyMac
Bill ... I'd prefer that this not to spill on over into a chat room.
Perhaps it is long past due tot make a clean break and call it done.
Arguing with Dolan is a supreme waste of time.
So, what Sam Adams beer are you thinking of having? If you ever have
another sip of wine, try giving the Aussie wines a taste. They are a
real bargain ,meaining superb quality at low prices. Try Kanga
Reserve, Rosemount, Yellow Tail, or LIttle Penguin. I know you like
Cabarnet, but try the blends and the Shiraz. I think you'll be
pleasnatly surprised.
Jim McNamara
> Bill Baka
bill
Yeah,
I guess "liked" would be the operative. I just saw other people who
drank too much and didn't want to go there, so it was a matter of logic
to me, switch off. The temptation is there but I don't want to go
against my own "logical decision".
Bill Baka
bill
> bill wrote:
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "JimmyMac" <jimmy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1159855278....@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> <sniped the sniping>
>> You guys should get a chat room of you own and argue your fingers bloody.
>> I am tempted to try some of the Samuel Adams that I have seen advertised
>> even though I quit drinking anything with Alcohol 3 years ago. It just
>> looks so good.
>> Wine.???
>> I like champagne and Cabernet Sauvignon.
>
> Bill ... I'd prefer that this not to spill on over into a chat room.
> Perhaps it is long past due tot make a clean break and call it done.
> Arguing with Dolan is a supreme waste of time.
Agreed,
And since he cross posts everything I never know which group it comes
from. I have to cross post a reply to answer anything.
>
> So, what Sam Adams beer are you thinking of having?
Good question, since there are about 18 as of the last commercial I saw.
If you ever have
> another sip of wine, try giving the Aussie wines a taste. They are a
> real bargain ,meaining superb quality at low prices. Try Kanga
> Reserve, Rosemount, Yellow Tail, or LIttle Penguin. I know you like
> Cabarnet, but try the blends and the Shiraz. I think you'll be
> pleasnatly surprised.
I never thought about wine, just Foster's beer, and one of those gives
me an illegal to drive amount of alcohol.
Temptations, Sigh.
Bill Baka
>
> Jim McNamara
>
>> Bill Baka
>
JimmyMac
bill wrote:
> JimmyMac wrote:
> > bill wrote:
> >> Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>> "JimmyMac" <jimmy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1159855278....@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>> <sniped the sniping>
> >> You guys should get a chat room of you own and argue your fingers bloody.
> >> I am tempted to try some of the Samuel Adams that I have seen advertised
> >> even though I quit drinking anything with Alcohol 3 years ago. It just
> >> looks so good.
> >> Wine.???
> >> I like champagne and Cabernet Sauvignon.
> >
> > Bill ... I'd prefer that this not to spill on over into a chat room.
> > Perhaps it is long past due tot make a clean break and call it done.
> > Arguing with Dolan is a supreme waste of time.
>
> Agreed,
> And since he cross posts everything I never know which group it comes
> from. I have to cross post a reply to answer anything.
> >
> > So, what Sam Adams beer are you thinking of having?
>
> Good question, since there are about 18 as of the last commercial I saw.
Oh, I thought you narrowed it down. Yep ... There is much to choose
from in the Sammy line and some of it is right tasty.
> If you ever have
> > another sip of wine, try giving the Aussie wines a taste. They are a
> > real bargain, meaining superb quality at low prices. Try Kanga
> > Reserve, Rosemount, Yellow Tail, or LIttle Penguin. I know you like
> > Cabarnet, but try the blends and the Shiraz. I think you'll be
> > pleasnatly surprised.
>
> I never thought about wine, just Foster's beer, and one of those gives
> me an illegal to drive amount of alcohol.
> Temptations, Sigh.
You must be thinking of that gigantic can of theirs.
bill
<big snip>
>> I never thought about wine, just Foster's beer, and one of those gives
>> me an illegal to drive amount of alcohol.
>> Temptations, Sigh.
>
> You must be thinking of that gigantic can of theirs.
That's the one. A little too much of a good thing, but sure is tasty.
Bill Baka
>>> Jim McNamara
JimmyMac
Agreed. Where do you reside, Bill???
Jim McNamara
> Bill Baka
> >>> Jim McNamara
bill
summer and rain for the winter. Pretty much open space so I get crossed
up with some of the groups city dwellers. Like getting 'doored' is not
going to happen to me, for instance. My near Century rides are so far
out in the boondocks that I never see a store so I have to pack it all
with me.
A big can of Fosters while relaxing under my favorite waterfall might
not be that bad. I can't get pulled over when there is no human life for
a ten mile radius.
Bill Baka
JimmyMac
> Bill Baka.
Well, that would put you more out of harms way than many a Californian
as far as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions are concerned, but you'll
not be short of your fair share temptation from craft brewed beer.
Here are a few references for you:
http://www.beer100.com/brewpubs_a_to_k/california.htm
http://brewpubzone.com/States/California.html
http://beerme.com/breweries/us/ca/index.shtml
Jim McNamara
bill
You are making me thirsty.
Bill Baka
JimmyMac
I'll drink to that ;^) - Jim McNamara
bill
> bill wrote:
>> Stop that.
>> You are making me thirsty.
>> Bill Baka
>
> I'll drink to that ;^) - Jim McNamara
>
Thirsty now,
Bill Baka
JimmyMac
> Bill Baka
l'll have one on you, if you'll have one on me. One Pilsner Urquell
coming right up. I'm out of here. I have a beer to drink. - Jim
McNamara
Dave Larrington
bb...@syix.com says...
Fosters? FOSTERS??
Are you out of your mind? Even Australians[1] won't drink that!
1 - sample size: 1 (my mate Shark Bait)
--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Currently quaffing Leffe Blond
bill
> In article <10XUg.19479$Ij.1...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
> bb...@syix.com says...
>> JimmyMac wrote:
>> <big snip>
>>>> I never thought about wine, just Foster's beer, and one of those gives
>>>> me an illegal to drive amount of alcohol.
>>>> Temptations, Sigh.
>>> You must be thinking of that gigantic can of theirs.
>> That's the one. A little too much of a good thing, but sure is tasty.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Fosters? FOSTERS??
>
> Are you out of your mind? Even Australians[1] won't drink that!
>
> 1 - sample size: 1 (my mate Shark Bait)
>
cans, and again when I bought a six pack for an afternoon watching the
telly (110 outside). Both times I wound up with a headache in the morning.
Bill Baka
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Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunset...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1158627235....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > John Hearns wrote:
> >> Stop.
> >> Crossposting.
> >> You.
> >> Blethering.
> >> Eejits.
> >
> > butbutbut [1], cross posting is one of the best ways to start Usenet
> > Flame Wars!
> >
> > [1] Gratuitous gdanielism.
>
> But it is also a good way to get some more input here on ARBR. We have grown
> incestuous and need some outsiders to freshen things up.
>
> I am planning to post an original message very early on Mondays from now on
> and it will be to multiple newsgroups since I am never on-topic anyway. It
> will always be general in nature and will apply to any and all newsgroups
> which have ever existed. My only aim, as always, will be to stir things up.
> Stay tuned.
Edward Dolan
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> I don't believe the Romans were aware of any birth control or health
>> hazards
>> in connection with wine at all. They drank wine from lead goblets because
>> they liked the way it tasted.
>
> What you believe matters not. One thing you have yet to learn is that
> opinions are subjective and facts are objective (and verifiable). You
> constantly interject opninions stated as though they were facts not
> need of substantiative verification.
God help you (and the rest of the group) if I were ever to put on my
scholar's cap and do some research on the matter. Just be thankful I don't
do that. As it is, everything is just off the top of my head based on a
lifetime of reading.
[...]
Edward Dolan
"bill" <bb...@syix.com> wrote in message
news:wJWUg.19468$Ij....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> JimmyMac wrote:
[...]
>> Bill ... I'd prefer that this not to spill on over into a chat room.
>> Perhaps it is long past due tot make a clean break and call it done.
>> Arguing with Dolan is a supreme waste of time.
>
> Agreed,
> And since he cross posts everything I never know which group it comes
> from. I have to cross post a reply to answer anything.
Everything I post comes basically from ARBR. I can always be found there.
I do like to post very general comments from time to time to all the main
cycling newsgroups except the technical one and the racing one. These are
mostly just housekeeping types of messages and I do not consider them to be
off-topic. All newsgroups need someone who has the best interests of the
group as a whole at heart. That is where I come in.
Mark Hickey
>Dave Larrington wrote:
>> Fosters? FOSTERS??
>>
>> Are you out of your mind? Even Australians[1] won't drink that!
>>
>> 1 - sample size: 1 (my mate Shark Bait)
>>
>What's wrong with Fosters? It is a bit potent as I found out after 2
>cans, and again when I bought a six pack for an afternoon watching the
>telly (110 outside). Both times I wound up with a headache in the morning.
Dave's right. Aussies simply do NOT drink Fosters... at least none of
the ones I saw. I suppose it might be different in the remote outback
or something. I lived in Oz for a couple years, and don't think I
EVER saw anyone drink a Fosters. I DID see a lot of Aussie yuppies
drinking Budweiser though - it's imported, so it has to be great.
This is in a country that has SO many great beers that it makes the
head spin (pun intended).
qui si parla Campagnolo
ahhh geeezzz..even people here in Colorado drink Coors fercrissake.
Subjective with a capital 'S'. I can't stand any so called 'microbrew'
made around Boulder, but so many roll their eyes and swoon when they
taste that crap. I like Fosters too, good basic beer, like lots from
Mexico and Canada as well. I'll even drink a Miller
everyonceinnawhile(brother works for a distributor), it's not that
bad..not spit out and wash mouth out bad.
R Brickston
wrote:
Sombody though is drinking a 100 million cases annually of the stuff
somewhere.
bill
OK,
Aussies drinking Bud seems kind of strange, yuppy types or not.
Bill
qui si parla Campagnolo
When in Scotland, way up north(Inverness), went into a small, local Pub
and asked about a pils he would suggest, he got me a
MILLER...yikes..found and settled on Tennants...
Mark Hickey
Egad. Miller... sigh. OTOH, I don't think I recall seeing ANY
"substandard beer" the two weeks I spent in Ireland on my honeymoon.
I have vague memories of a conversation with an Irish auto mechanic,
and a bar full of empty pints. I'm fairly certain we had solved all
the world's problems by the end of the evening, but for the life of me
I couldn't recall the solutions the next morning.
Dave Larrington
ma...@habcycles.com says...
> Dave's right. Aussies simply do NOT drink Fosters... at least none of
> the ones I saw. I suppose it might be different in the remote outback
> or something. I lived in Oz for a couple years, and don't think I
> EVER saw anyone drink a Fosters. I DID see a lot of Aussie yuppies
> drinking Budweiser though - it's imported, so it has to be great.
Long long ago it was difficult to get beers imported from anywhere other
than Europe in London, except in the Tribal Areas. Thus one could get
Tiger in Chinatown, Red Stripe in Brixton and Fosters and Castlemaine in
Earls Court (aka Kangaroo Alley). By the early 1980's, the stuff was a
bit more available; thus our college bar sold canned Fosters (which
nobody bought) and Castlemaine (which was quite popular).
Natch the breweries cottoned onto this, and started brewing the stuff
under licence. Unable to leave a good thing alone, they usually watered
it down. For a while, the knowledgeable would ensure that their
Castlemaine had a red line around the top of the can when getting their
take-outs, as that came from Brisbane rather than a chemical plant in
the Thames Valley. Sadly supplies eventually dried up, so we moved on
to Red Stripe, which Charles Wells hadn't got their grubby little paws
on at that stage. The same story has happened with just about every
well-known foreign brand - some suit at a BigCo decides to mess things
up - but at least now they've started to get the message. UK Heineken,
for example, is now the same strength as the stuff everyone else gets.
UK-brewed Fosters is one of the most dismal things in the history of all
things ever, and those responsible for its production should be tracked
down and forced to live in Edmonton[2], on a diet of dead dogs and flat
Fosters.
And don't get me started on some of the major US brands ;-)
Right, I shall finish my pint and get my act together for tomorrow's
200.
1 - with the notable exception of Stella Artois
2 - not the one in Canada
--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Kinder surprise! What's the surprise? Your children are now dead.
Tom Keats
Dave Larrington <smert.s...@privacy.net> writes:
> In article <q0afi2t93shobm4sh...@4ax.com>,
> ma...@habcycles.com says...
> Natch the breweries cottoned onto this, and started brewing the stuff
> under licence. Unable to leave a good thing alone, they usually watered
> it down.
I feel your pain.
[snip]
> UK-brewed Fosters is one of the most dismal things in the history of all
> things ever,
You have so many worthy local brews over there; why would anyone deign to
forsake them for Frosties?
I take it you haven't experienced Canadian Budweiser. Actually, here in
British Columbia, back in the '70s/'80s we had this horrid swill called
"Generic Beer", which came in a plain looking brown cardboard case with
military stencil lettering. I guess it was okay to cook or marinate owls
with, but otherwise it was utterly impotable to those without cast iron
guts and/or tastebudectomies.
> and those responsible for its production should be tracked
> down and forced to live in Edmonton[2], on a diet of dead dogs and flat
> Fosters.
>
> And don't get me started on some of the major US brands ;-)
I'm an afficianado of real American MGD. Please, oh, please forgive me.
I suspect the brewed-under-license Canadian version is just re-labeled
Canadian Budweiser. But maybe part of the Real Stuff's charm is
successfully smuggling it across the border.
> Right, I shall finish my pint and get my act together for tomorrow's
> 200.
> 2 - not the one in Canada
Why not? It could be just as appropriate, if not more so.
I dunno if it's still available, but y'know what once made a
good Canadian, all-purpose, abusable lager? Standard Lager[tm],
out of Winnipeg, Manitoba. Especially for the redeye/beer-&-
tomato juice thing.
International beers with lions or tigers in their logos seem
generally to be pretty good.
cheers,
Tom
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