XxfreeBASS wrote in message
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The only thing that I have against it is that it is not a 'rave drug'. People
passed out on the floor does nothing for the vibe of a party. Otherwise, it's
safer than getting drunk.
-Az
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"Safer than getting drunk", wow somebodies a crackhead. GHB is a drug that's
produced straight from the ball sack of satan. I heard it can be fun but the
doseage has to be perfect or it's real easy to OD. I had one friend od on it 3
times and another one of my bouncy lil candy raver boys puked and passed out
for two hours off of a Snapple cap full. Personally if your into screwing
yourself and the vibe I reccomend a Drano Enema.
Little Candy Raver Jade
"Can't stop here............this is bat country."
my thoughts exactly jade! just couldnt put it in words like that...! =Ţ
--
GaNjA_gIrL
4:19 GoT a MiNuTe?!?
You are dumb. Why don't you try some real drugs like spary paint, glade,
tylenol, nutmeg, or banana peels.
---scarecrow---
No shit. Even tho my experience was actually pretty decent; no fucking way i'd
eva do it again. I could like...feel my brain cells dying. I don't recommend
the shit to *anyone*...just take my word for it :) I luv ya guys and i don't
wanna hafta peel your arse off the floor and cause a scene. *mwah* safe
raving :)
duh! everyone who's anyone knows they don't work silly. ya gotta go for the
hard, real shit, like peanut casings. geez... </end sarcasm>
Do a little research before you spout ignorance. You are not going to die
from overdosing on GHB. Try drinking a fifth of Jack Daniels and see how long
you live. Both make you pass out if you take too much, but the GHB is much
less damaging to your body. (No, I've never done it, but I read. Maybe you
should try it sometime.)
> GHB is a drug that's
> produced straight from the ball sack of satan. I heard it can be fun but the
> doseage has to be perfect or it's real easy to OD. I had one friend od on it
3
> times
Oh, your friends are smart too...
>and another one of my bouncy lil candy raver boys puked and passed out
> for two hours off of a Snapple cap full. Personally if your into screwing
> yourself and the vibe I reccomend a Drano Enema.
Who's into screwing a vibe? Stupid people aren't much fun.
how about you take your own advice numbnut. taken from a medical research
paper on GHB overdoses (University of California, San Francisco ): "GHB has
potentially life-threatening toxic effects, and these patients present in a
profound coma with a markedly decreased level of consciousness that is unlike
other types of overdose," said Karl Sporer, MD, an assistant professor of
medicine at the University of California San Francisco....The overdose is
characterized by a profound coma along with a normal respiratory rate, but
often accompanied by slow heart rate, low body temperature, and vomiting.
</end>
*ahem* sounds pretty safe to me...right.
need i go on?
>Both make you pass out if you take too much, but the GHB is much
>less damaging to your body. (No, I've never done it, but I read. Maybe you
>should try it sometime.)
perhaps you should hunny. i'm not tryin ta start a conflict here, but i'm all
about educating before ingesting, and um...speaking from *my own* experience as
well as checking the facts, it's just as damaging. alcohol and GHB are equally
evil, and by sholly, i wouldn't recommend either!
>Who's into screwing a vibe? Stupid people aren't much fun.
>
neither are those who think they know what's up only to be found out. how about
makin the scene a little brighter, read a damn medical journal, and let
everyone else know the truth. just cuz you like it, doesn't mean it's better.
*kishes to all* sara
Strange how that looks just like a newspaper article, and nothing like a
research paper. How about a title or page number. Hell, even a journal name.
All that you are doing is cutting and pasting useless propaganda. The fact
that he uses the term 'life threatening toxic effects' shows that he doesn't
know what he's talking about. Prove me wrong, find a real bit of research
showing that GHB is more toxic than alcohol and I will gladly admit that you
are right and I am wrong.
"As of 1990, only forty-six adverse reactions had been reported in the United
States surely constituting only an infinitesimal fraction of actual usage, all
followed by rapid and complete recovery"
'...one patient inadvertently ingested fifteen teaspoons without adverse
consequence "other than deep sedation and headache the next day"'
Chin MY, Kreutzer RA and Dyer JE. Acute poisoning from gamma-hydroxybutyrate
in California. West J Med (United States). 156(4): 380-4, April 1992.
> *ahem* sounds pretty safe to me...right.
I said it was safer than alcohol, which it is. *Any* drug can be dangerous if
used irresponsibly.
> need i go on?
By all means.
> >Both make you pass out if you take too much, but the GHB is much
> >less damaging to your body. (No, I've never done it, but I read. Maybe you
> >should try it sometime.)
>
> perhaps you should hunny. i'm not tryin ta start a conflict here, but i'm all
> about educating before ingesting, and um...speaking from *my own* experience
as
> well as checking the facts, it's just as damaging. alcohol and GHB are
equally
> evil, and by sholly, i wouldn't recommend either!
Well, neither would I.
> >Who's into screwing a vibe? Stupid people aren't much fun.
> >
> neither are those who think they know what's up only to be found out. how
about
> makin the scene a little brighter, read a damn medical journal, and let
> everyone else know the truth. just cuz you like it, doesn't mean it's better.
Where did I say that I like it? Read again. I said I've never even used it.
I don't like being slow. However, if they were to suddenly start serving it in
bars instead of alcohol, we would sure as hell not have as many people with
fucked up livers and dts from withdrawl.
Nobody should take any downer at a rave, be it alcohol, K, or ghb. If you want
to do that shit, go somewhere else.
oh my gawd, well pardon me for not cutting and pasting the entire thing. i
thought i'd save everyone some time. *me-ow*
>Prove me wrong, find a real bit of research
>showing that GHB is more toxic than alcohol and I will gladly admit that you
>are right and I am wrong.
hunny, in no way am i trying to get you to say who's right and who's wrong.
i'm just here to throw some information out into the open to further provoke
people into reading more about the shit they choose to put into their bodies.
>Nobody should take any downer at a rave, be it alcohol, K, or ghb. If you
>want
>to do that shit, go somewhere else.
my sentiments exactly.
You left out 120 volts AC. You don't even have to bring it with you,
it's available at every venue.
NfltblGdss wrote:
> >Do a little research before you spout ignorance. You are not going to die
> >from overdosing on GHB.
>
> how about you take your own advice numbnut. taken from a medical research
> paper on GHB overdoses (University of California, San Francisco ): "GHB has
> potentially life-threatening toxic effects, and these patients present in a
> profound coma with a markedly decreased level of consciousness that is unlike
> other types of overdose," said Karl Sporer, MD, an assistant professor of
> medicine at the University of California San Francisco....The overdose is
> characterized by a profound coma along with a normal respiratory rate, but
> often accompanied by slow heart rate, low body temperature, and vomiting.
> </end>
>
> *ahem* sounds pretty safe to me...right.
>
before quoting some medical paper, how 'bout reading what they write about other
'rave' drugs such as mdma?
you can kill yourself with salt if you want to, but it's pretty damm hard. I have
done ghb for over 2 years, have OD'd,
and have learned to use the stuff properly. It is very suitable as a
come-down/chillout drug after having had your mdma peak.
it can also be very nice to dance on it, 'cept you shouldn't while peaking on GHB,
since you might have some troubles controlling your
movement. however, ghb in the liquid form is a lot more unstable, and I do not
recommend doing it unless you have experience.
also, alcohol AND ghb is extremely dumb, chances are you will puke at least, and
you can have a real shit time when mixing the two.
> alcohol and GHB are equally evil, and by sholly, i wouldn't recommend either!
I totally disagree. No drug is 'evil'. Drugs only enhance/stimulate what you
already have. If any drug makes you act 'evil', then stay
away from them, however, I do not/cannot believe one could be 'evil' on GHB. If
with evil you're referring to the potency or the
possible ways of fucking yourself up, then again, I strongly disagree. GHB shares
some of the effects that alcohol might have on you,
but it is not very damaging, and it is not addictive. I believe that raving
regularily on E, say 4-2 times a month is much more damaging,
and definitely more addictive.
> >Who's into screwing a vibe? Stupid people aren't much fun.
> >
> neither are those who think they know what's up only to be found out. how about
> makin the scene a little brighter, read a damn medical journal, and let
> everyone else know the truth. just cuz you like it, doesn't mean it's better.
medical journals are informative, no doubt, but I feel you used the quote
incorrectly. you can get negative quotes about anything from
a medical journal, it doesn't prove any point. but, as always when using drugs,
caution is advised. I recommend reading ANYTHING
you can get about drugs, relying on one source alone is not the way to go, because
with drugs people just tend to be biased....
first post, plz don't flame, but plz reply =)
Whatever!! If you've been partying as long as me you'd know that real ravers
get high eating their own earwax.... you new skooler scum.
Oh yeah.. any old skoolers out there remember back in the day when earwax was
earwax... before all the dealers started selling earwax laced with vaseline...
mmm... I can almost taste it now.
Kjunglegirl
*****************
Are you rollin'?
well if so... take a look... http://members.xoom.com/groovement/
*checks my newbie handbook* damn it. it's in the second edition! and i spent
all my $$ on fake pills and generic kandy. damn it! heil the almighty old
skoola!
i have. and i still do :) thanks for the advice anyway hunny. i'm a safety
gurl.
>I have
>done ghb for over 2 years, have OD'd,
>and have learned to use the stuff properly.
hmmm...with experience comes wisdom? we'll see...
>Drugs only enhance/stimulate what you
>already have.
i'm a firm believer in that, but the majority of people out there can't handle
what certain drugs (any drug) do. please the masses, right?
>you can get negative quotes about anything from
>a medical journal, it doesn't prove any point.
not trying to prove a point, luv...just throwing some info out into the open :)
>first post, plz don't flame, but plz reply =)
*mwah* welcome to da board! can ya feel the luv? i have a tendency to come
off as a bitch...but it's all good :) i luv each and every one of ya. just
wanchoo all to be safe, and know i'm only here to provoke some thought. *hugz*
-Ryan
>
>
> Nobody should take any downer at a rave, be it alcohol, K, or ghb. If you want
> to do that shit, go somewhere else.
>