Feb 13, Show - Terrible what women have done to men
Otis
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C1 Monologue. LA Times story on motorcycle officers. Brings this up
because she has received a number of calls of guys wanting bikes when
they have little kids.
DL, "Then there is, liberal ignorance. I'm sorry for you liberals who
now feel insulted by the redundancy there but this is the kind of
thing that drives me up a wall and drives me to say horrible things
like liberal ignorance when I don't want to name call anybody. But
I'm DRIVEN to it. I can NOT contain myself anymore." LA Times op-ed
piece on Janet Jackson and her boob. Talks about the delay on talk
radio and says it's available for TV as well. DL, "Because, Hollywood
is pretty much out of control. Doesn't have much respect for
traditional family values. Readily becomes offensive to families and
children. Simply because they can, they wanna, and that's how they
compete with each other for attention. Hollywood is out of control
... "
Reads letter about faking it with husband. Husband's fake it when
they do things for the wife that they don't want to, so the wife
should do it as well.
C2 0:20 DL. Reads a fax. Heard her on Roger Hegcock's show. Why
didn't she support the Mormon's that Roger was vilifying. She says
she didn't hear the preceding conversation. Blah, blah, blah, blah
from Laura about how great the LDS church is and what a great
contributor to her foundation they are. DL, "I'm sure this was a
misunderstanding. I know I'm misunderstood a lot. I will say
something tongue in cheek, I will say something to be sarcastic to
make a point, and I have a feeling that somebody turns on the radio
just at that moment and DOESN'T get the context."
C2 3:30 Kelli. Married 15 years. 10 years ago the caller says Laura
saved her and the marriage. Has read the book and wants to help save
her from making husband's life, "a living Hell." Is it fair to ask
him to defend her from his family when she knows she caused animosity
in his family a few years ago. Caller had an emotional affair with
his sister's husband some years ago. Laura says meet with her and
apologize or something. DL, "And after you meet with her, call me
back."
C3 0:30 DL. Reads BLT.
C3 3:35 Drew(18). At five, dad passed. 3 years after that mom
remarried. He's a nice step father. While he loves his step father
he can't express his feelings. [Call is way to melodramatic for me.]
C3 7:10 Jan. Dated a man for the past 2, have known him for 8. He
just proposed. DL, "I don't consider yourself engaged without a ring
and a date." She has the money, he doesn't. He has a good job and is
hard working as a mortgage banker. Laura, ever the financial advisor,
wants to know where all his money is going.
C4 0:15 Time(kid). Should he meet bio dad. Mom doesn't want them to
meet because his bio father is on drugs and has done time in the can.
C4 3:05 Brenda. SisIL was just diagnosed with cancer. They had a
falling out last year. Cell phone drops.
C4 3:55 Bill. When he got married he didn't know the wife was 30k in
debt with credit cards. Says he has no trust in her at all. Laura
calls this, "a reasonable response." DL, "The vows were taken with
dishonesty. She set you up, with credit problems, and to be used
financially without your knowledge. In my opinion she perpetrated a
fraud on you."
C5 Monologue. Book signing announcement. El Cajon this time. Del
Mar fairground on Saturday. Reads a letter, something about husband
leaving the autistic child alone. She got custody of the kids and
house. He accepted Jesus just before the divorce and they got back
together. She's now the SAHM and life is great.
C5 7:30 Bonnie has returned. Called because she had been having
issues with husband. Staying in the marriage for the 11 year old.
C6 0:20 Colleen. Husband and she have been friends with the neighbor
for 7 years. The neighbors recently moved, but not too far. They
still get together occasionally. C, "And, a couple weeks ago her
husband called me and asked if he could see my new breasts that I got
a few months ago. You know, I've had four kids so I went and got
myself a lift." Caller's husband is pretty upset over this.
C6 2:10 Laura. Should she be concerned that husband gave away all the
baby clothes to a lady at work. She gave him permission. Afraid
husband may have designs for this woman at work. DL, "What is in your
head?!?!"
C7 0:30 Susanne. Divorced, dating a guy who is divorced as well.
Dating for two years. Recently engaged. Should she tell him that she
was molested as a child.
C7 4:30 Mary. Sucks up. Four kids, all in their 20's. She's married
for 30 years. Problems with the 22 year old, he's a college senior.
Son is making poor financial decisions. He's graduating this year but
has no plans. They've tried talking to him. Laura says he's an
adult, let him make his own decisions.
C8 0:25 Deidre. Daughter left home last year at 17 to go live with
her father. Daughter left without warning. Came home one day and she
was gone. Daughter went from a straight A student and athlete to a
druggie and failing school. Daughter wants to know if the caller is
coming for graduation.
C8 2:45 Ellen. How does she follow through with the divorce that she
doesn't want. Says she's trying to hold on even though there is no
hope. He still is pursuing intimate contact. DL, "Tell him it's $500
a pop." Laura calls her, "an unpaid whore."
C8 9:30 Callie. [A lot of caller's are doing that, "Oh, Hi." Stunned
bit when they first come on. Technical problems?] DL, "You need to
turn the radio off." Going to see dad next week. No feelings for him
but nervous about seeing him. He was abusive to her and brother.
Laura wants to talk to mom.
C9 Monologue. Reads letter from a SAHM and how great it is to be
there for the kids when they are sick.
C9 3:05 Carrie. She and husband live in a nice house. Her mother and
stepfather bought another house and want them to rent the house they
are currently living in. Caller says it would benefit both parties.
They're renting their current place as well. Laura says, "you will
never have equity" if they don't buy. [I beg to differ. Why not
continue renting and take the difference in what you pay for in rent
and invest it. Plus, if you rent you're not obligated to major
maintenance and repairs like furnaces, roofs, sidewalk repair, etc.
That is additional money which could be put towards an investment.]
DL, "I don't think this is a good idea because it leaves you
vulnerable to whatever it is that they do in the future and don't do
or sell or any of that." [She is utterly clueless as to the landlord
tenant relationship, even when family members are involved. It's not
as if her parents are going to one day say, we're selling, get your
stuff out by next Friday. That is against the law. This is just
horrible advice from Laura.] DL, "You called for my opinion. Not to
debate with somebody."
C9 7:15 Connie. What should she do regarding MIL of 8 years. MIL is
dating a married man.
C9 8:30 Carmen. Recently got divorced. Says he said he was no longer
in love with her. DL, "See, men used to have a sense of obligation.
Now they have the same emotional, ah never mind. It's just terrible
what we've done to men."
C10 0:20 DL. Reads fax from a guy. Thanks her for the book. Says
she understands men better then he does. It's a Valentine's Day
lament. Can't please the wife no matter what he does.
C10 2:30 Ann. Four families in the Bible study group. All going on a
trip to Mexico to build homes for the homeless. Kids are putting on a
musical to raise money for the trip. This musical thing is free of
charge but they're asking for donations. Husband wants daughter to
get up and make a plea for donations. Daughter is a bit shy and
doesn't want to do it. DL, "Simply because she has an opinion as a
minor child it doesn't hold. Simply because she really has one.
Okay? That doesn't work. I don't agree with that." DL, "Just
because she finally said something, doesn't make her right."
C11 0:25 Kim. Soon to be ex husband is living with somebody who is
pregnant and planning a wedding. Due in August, wants to get married
before the baby comes, is unaware he's still married. Says he doesn't
want to sign the divorce papers. He's never given a clear answer.
DL, "I think somebody is obligated to let her know what's happening to
her. Because, all of us as decent people are obligated to tell
somebody when somebody's perpetrating a fraud on them."
C11 2:40 Elizabeth. C, "You're my hero." Caller is the product of a
7 year affair mom had. Has a half sister who is unaware of this. DL,
"None of this is relevant to your sister."
C12 0:30 DL. Reads letter from a female manager at a large medical
practice on the females she works with who are working moms and how
bad the kids are turning out.
C12 2:20 Brady(22). Two young kids. Married at 18. Didn't tell his
parents he was getting married. DL, "If you were my son I'd be
walking on your head right now." Finally told his parents but still
feels resentment from dad. Cell phone drops, Laura implodes.
C12 5:15 Travis. Halfway through the book. Last night he did
everything he could do to be the perfect man and husband. Told her he
doesn't want to celebrate Valentine's Day because he doesn't feel
loved by her. DL, "Good for you!" DL, "In my opinion, you did the
right thing." DL, "I think women have to be held accountable." Laura
says he needs to read the book in front of her so she sees what he is
reading.
C12 9:00 Tom. Left first wife when daughter was 6. Remarried and
with #2 for 18 years. Daughter is creating problems. Daughter took
out a restraining order on him. DL, "If I were you I'd keep a
distance and keep myself safe." DL, "Right now, she's dangerous."
Otis
Author of "those half assed recaps"
Viva la Weirdalocuion!
Ian Crowe
"Otis" <Oti...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> Feb 13
>
> C2 0:20 DL. Reads a fax. Heard her on Roger Hegcock's show. Why
> didn't she support the Mormon's that Roger was vilifying. She says
> she didn't hear the preceding conversation. Blah, blah, blah, blah
> from Laura about how great the LDS church is and what a great
> contributor to her foundation they are. DL, "I'm sure this was a
> misunderstanding. I know I'm misunderstood a lot. I will say
> something tongue in cheek, I will say something to be sarcastic to
> make a point, and I have a feeling that somebody turns on the radio
> just at that moment and DOESN'T get the context."
>
context.
However, I am confident it is the ones who fail to see her evil ways that do
not have such context.
If listeners did have context for all of the rubbish she spews Laura would
have no audience left
Ian
EMF1947
>Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2004 9:02 AM
>Message-id: <596807af.04021...@posting.google.com>
>
>Feb 13
>
>STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This is NOT a transcript. This is a brief summary
>of calls which can be used for basing further discussion. To hear the
>show point your browser this way http://www.drlaura.com/listen/ But,
>you'll need to be a subscriber to her service now.
>C4 3:55 Bill. When he got married he didn't know the wife was 30k in
>debt with credit cards. Says he has no trust in her at all. Laura
>calls this, "a reasonable response." DL, "The vows were taken with
>dishonesty. She set you up, with credit problems, and to be used
>financially without your knowledge. In my opinion she perpetrated a
>fraud on you."
Oh, really? Where exactly in the wedding vows does one promise not to have any
unpaid debts?
>C6 0:20 Colleen. Husband and she have been friends with the neighbor
>for 7 years. The neighbors recently moved, but not too far. They
>still get together occasionally. C, "And, a couple weeks ago her
>husband called me and asked if he could see my new breasts that I got
>a few months ago. You know, I've had four kids so I went and got
>myself a lift." Caller's husband is pretty upset over this.
And caller isn't? I'd be offended.
>C12 0:30 DL. Reads letter from a female manager at a large medical
>practice on the females she works with who are working moms and how
>bad the kids are turning out.
Laura has a strange definition of gossip. It allows her to read letters like
this, which are nothing but gossip, all the while complaining how evil gossip
is.
Ellen
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Just because I saw it coming, doesn't mean I was waiting for it with balloons
and a cake.
Francesco Marciuliano, in "Sally Forth"
John H. Smith
>From: Oti...@rocketmail.com (Otis)
>Date: 2/16/2004 9:02 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <596807af.04021...@posting.google.com>
>
>Feb 13
>
Hi Otis.
>C1 Monologue. LA Times story on motorcycle officers. Brings this up
>because she has received a number of calls of guys wanting bikes when
>they have little kids.
>
>DL, "Then there is, liberal ignorance. I'm sorry for you liberals who
>now feel insulted by the redundancy there but this is the kind of
>thing that drives me up a wall and drives me to say horrible things
>like liberal ignorance when I don't want to name call anybody. But
>I'm DRIVEN to it. I can NOT contain myself anymore."
SO Laura is a victim and she cannot control her actions. Sort of like a sex
addixt or alcoholic?
> LA Times op-ed
>piece on Janet Jackson and her boob. Talks about the delay on talk
>radio and says it's available for TV as well. DL, "Because, Hollywood
>is pretty much out of control. Doesn't have much respect for
>traditional family values. Readily becomes offensive to families and
>children. Simply because they can, they wanna, and that's how they
>compete with each other for attention. Hollywood is out of control
So this excuses Laura to say "horrible things"?
>Reads letter about faking it with husband. Husband's fake it when
>they do things for the wife that they don't want to, so the wife
>should do it as well.
DL:"The best relationships are built ENTIRELY on lies!"
>C2 0:20 DL. Reads a fax. Heard her on Roger Hegcock's show.
Slumming again, Laura?
>Why
>didn't she support the Mormon's that Roger was vilifying. She says
>she didn't hear the preceding conversation. Blah, blah, blah, blah
>from Laura about how great the LDS church is and what a great
>contributor to her foundation they are. DL, "I'm sure this was a
>misunderstanding. I know I'm misunderstood a lot. I will say
>something tongue in cheek, I will say something to be sarcastic to
>make a point, and I have a feeling that somebody turns on the radio
>just at that moment and DOESN'T get the context."
And so she completely dodged the isssue. As usual. Hedgecock does not dis
Mormons "tongue in cheek". Laura knows this, but she'll take a guest shot with
Osama, if he offers her oen.
>C2 3:30 Kelli. Married 15 years. 10 years ago the caller says Laura
>saved her and the marriage. Has read the book and wants to help save
>her from making husband's life, "a living Hell." Is it fair to ask
>him to defend her from his family when she knows she caused animosity
>in his family a few years ago. Caller had an emotional affair with
>his sister's husband some years ago. Laura says meet with her and
>apologize or something. DL, "And after you meet with her, call me
>back."
DL:"Get some video if you can, I LOVE those bloody cat fights!"
>C3 7:10 Jan. Dated a man for the past 2, have known him for 8. He
>just proposed. DL, "I don't consider yourself engaged without a ring
>and a date." She has the money, he doesn't. He has a good job and is
>hard working as a mortgage banker. Laura, ever the financial advisor,
>wants to know where all his money is going.
DL:"MAybe we can blackmail him!"
>C4 3:55 Bill. When he got married he didn't know the wife was 30k in
>debt with credit cards. Says he has no trust in her at all. Laura
>calls this, "a reasonable response." DL, "The vows were taken with
>dishonesty. She set you up, with credit problems, and to be used
>financially without your knowledge. In my opinion she perpetrated a
>fraud on you."
In your MEDICAL opinion, or your LEGAL opinion? Both of which are totally
bogus.
>C5 Monologue. Book signing announcement. El Cajon this time. Del
>Mar fairground on Saturday. Reads a letter, something about husband
>leaving the autistic child alone. She got custody of the kids and
>house. He accepted Jesus just before the divorce and they got back
>together. She's now the SAHM and life is great.
Isn't it funny how California names so many of their landmarks after old
Chevys?
>C6 0:20 Colleen. Husband and she have been friends with the neighbor
>for 7 years. The neighbors recently moved, but not too far. They
>still get together occasionally. C, "And, a couple weeks ago her
>husband called me and asked if he could see my new breasts that I got
>a few months ago. You know, I've had four kids so I went and got
>myself a lift." Caller's husband is pretty upset over this.
>
Let me guess Laura's spin: "Well, by being a sleaz-o and getting an unnecessary
and provocative thing like a boob job, you sent him & all men the message that
you're the kind of slut who would like to show them off for other men. This is
ALL YOUR FAULT."
>C6 2:10 Laura. Should she be concerned that husband gave away all the
>baby clothes to a lady at work. She gave him permission. Afraid
>husband may have designs for this woman at work. DL, "What is in your
>head?!?!"
Typical Worrier. Babies come from sex, so baby clothes naturally bring up
thinking about sex. And if this woman at work is PREGNANT, then she could be
having sex anytime she wants without fear of becoming MORE pregnant! Perhaps
this Laura was a total nymphomaniac the whole time she was pregnant and
projects that on this woman at her husbands workplace? It's what "Dr." LAura
would do!
>C7 4:30 Mary. Sucks up. Four kids, all in their 20's. She's married
>for 30 years. Problems with the 22 year old, he's a college senior.
>Son is making poor financial decisions. He's graduating this year but
>has no plans. They've tried talking to him. Laura says he's an
>adult, let him make his own decisions.
Dr. Stopclock, right on schedule.
>C8 0:25 Deidre. Daughter left home last year at 17 to go live with
>her father. Daughter left without warning. Came home one day and she
>was gone. Daughter went from a straight A student and athlete to a
>druggie and failing school. Daughter wants to know if the caller is
>coming for graduation.
I though she said she failed school?
>C8 2:45 Ellen. How does she follow through with the divorce that she
>doesn't want. Says she's trying to hold on even though there is no
>hope. He still is pursuing intimate contact. DL, "Tell him it's $500
>a pop." Laura calls her, "an unpaid whore."
Isn't prostitution illegal? Isn't extortion illegal? How can LAura get away
with advising her callers to comit crimes?
>C8 9:30 Callie. [A lot of caller's are doing that, "Oh, Hi." Stunned
>bit when they first come on. Technical problems?] DL, "You need to
>turn the radio off."
They get on the air 2 seconds after going on hold.
> Going to see dad next week. No feelings for him
>but nervous about seeing him. He was abusive to her and brother.
>Laura wants to talk to mom.
Too bad Laura, you mom is already dead, of neglect.
>C9 3:05 Carrie. She and husband live in a nice house. Her mother and
>stepfather bought another house and want them to rent the house they
>are currently living in. Caller says it would benefit both parties.
>They're renting their current place as well. Laura says, "you will
>never have equity" if they don't buy. [I beg to differ. Why not
>continue renting and take the difference in what you pay for in rent
>and invest it.
Well, in my case I'd lose about $200 a month. Not to mention the increase in
car insurance.
> Plus, if you rent you're not obligated to major
>maintenance and repairs like furnaces, roofs, sidewalk repair, etc.
If you sign an agreement that way, true.
>That is additional money which could be put towards an investment.]
Though I'd still be about $100 a month in the hole.
>DL, "I don't think this is a good idea because it leaves you
>vulnerable to whatever it is that they do in the future and don't do
>or sell or any of that." [She is utterly clueless as to the landlord
>tenant relationship, even when family members are involved.
Well, yes and no. There are laws in place now for renters and landlords, but
that doesn't mean they get enforced, especially in the case of a family
dispute. If a party gets up the nerve to actually sue, the negative pressure
from numerous family members can be a major factor. The resistance against
suing a parent is enormous for some people. Also, the courts tend to be more
receptive to claims of verbal agreements or modifications to terms when it is a
family matter. If Dad claims you made a verbal agreement to maintain the place
when he retired (or got sick, or went on Social Security, etc.), for instance
(and maybe a sibling or two decide to back him) - there's a good chance he will
be believed.
>It's not
>as if her parents are going to one day say, we're selling, get your
>stuff out by next Friday. That is against the law.
Being against the law isn't much of a deterrent, in a family dispute.
> This is just
>horrible advice from Laura.] DL, "You called for my opinion. Not to
>debate with somebody."
>
Psychic Laura knows why the caller called, despite the caller's actions!
>C9 7:15 Connie. What should she do regarding MIL of 8 years. MIL is
>dating a married man.
>
Unless it's Connie's husband, what's tyhe Big Deal?
>C9 8:30 Carmen. Recently got divorced. Says he said he was no longer
>in love with her. DL, "See, men used to have a sense of obligation.
>Now they have the same emotional, ah never mind. It's just terrible
>what we've done to men."
Carmen's husband is just fine, a wonderful man. It's what "we've" done to
him that hurt Carmen, not him.
Laura could apply this logic to gun control:
Guns don't kill people.
People don't kill people.
Society's attitudes about guns and gun control laws kill people.....
>C10 0:20 DL. Reads fax from a guy. Thanks her for the book. Says
>she understands men better then he does. It's a Valentine's Day
>lament. Can't please the wife no matter what he does.
DL:"Did you try spanking her with the book?"
>C10 2:30 Ann. Four families in the Bible study group. All going on a
>trip to Mexico to build homes for the homeless. Kids are putting on a
>musical to raise money for the trip. This musical thing is free of
>charge but they're asking for donations. Husband wants daughter to
>get up and make a plea for donations. Daughter is a bit shy and
>doesn't want to do it. DL, "Simply because she has an opinion as a
>minor child it doesn't hold. Simply because she really has one.
>Okay? That doesn't work. I don't agree with that." DL, "Just
>because she finally said something, doesn't make her right."
So beat her until she complies?
>C11 0:25 Kim. Soon to be ex husband is living with somebody who is
>pregnant and planning a wedding. Due in August, wants to get married
>before the baby comes, is unaware he's still married. Says he doesn't
>want to sign the divorce papers. He's never given a clear answer.
>DL, "I think somebody is obligated to let her know what's happening to
>her. Because, all of us as decent people are obligated to tell
>somebody when somebody's perpetrating a fraud on them."
DL:"Especially when it fits our cruel and vindictive plans!"
>C12 2:20 Brady(22). Two young kids. Married at 18. Didn't tell his
>parents he was getting married. DL, "If you were my son I'd be
>walking on your head right now."
But she has no nagging rights.
>Finally told his parents but still
>feels resentment from dad. Cell phone drops, Laura implodes.
>
Too bad that didn't lead to spontaneous combustion.
>C12 5:15 Travis. Halfway through the book. Last night he did
>everything he could do to be the perfect man and husband. Told her he
>doesn't want to celebrate Valentine's Day because he doesn't feel
>loved by her. DL, "Good for you!" DL, "In my opinion, you did the
>right thing." DL, "I think women have to be held accountable."
Now wants to know how to start looking for her.
>Laura
>says he needs to read the book in front of her so she sees what he is
>reading.
Caller: "I'll do that if I ever catch up to her again."
>C12 9:00 Tom. Left first wife when daughter was 6. Remarried and
>with #2 for 18 years. Daughter is creating problems. Daughter took
>out a restraining order on him. DL, "If I were you I'd keep a
>distance and keep myself safe." DL, "Right now, she's dangerous."
>
>
Though the local court sees it the other way around. Who are they to question
Laura's judgement?
>Otis
>Author of "those half assed recaps"
>Viva la Weirdalocuion!
>
>
Thanks Otis.
Neutrodyne
mms...@nova.com
>Feb 13
>
>STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This is NOT a transcript. This is a brief summary
>of calls which can be used for basing further discussion. To hear the
>show point your browser this way http://www.drlaura.com/listen/ But,
>you'll need to be a subscriber to her service now.
>
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>
>DL, "Then there is, liberal ignorance. I'm sorry for you liberals who
>now feel insulted by the redundancy there but this is the kind of
>thing that drives me up a wall and drives me to say horrible things
>like liberal ignorance when I don't want to name call anybody. But
>I'm DRIVEN to it. I can NOT contain myself anymore."
The excuse beloved by abusers everywhere.
>LA Times op-ed piece on Janet Jackson and her boob.
What Laura said reveals liberal ignorance was opposition to putting a time delay
on the Oscars show.
"ABC's decision to impose a five-second tape delay on the Feb. 29 Oscar telecast
isn't sitting well with Frank Pierson, the president of the Academy of Motion
Picture Arts and Sciences. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Pierson wrote in
a letter to the Academy's membership: 'Even a very brief tape delay introduces a
form of censorship into a broadcast--not direct governmental control, but it
means that a network representative is in effect guessing at what a government
might tolerate, which can be even worse.' Although this is the first time a time
delay has been imposed on the Oscar telecast,
[Please note -- the Republic is still standing, even though there has never been
a five-second tape delay on any Oscar telecast.]
a spokeswoman for ABC told The Reporter the network has used tape delays for
other live broadcasts in the past in order to better deal with potential
technical problems--even before the Super Bowl halftime incident. Pierson,
however, warned that even though the delay is aimed at stamping out individual
words, the principal [sic] of the delay could mean wide-ranging consequences
down the road. 'How long,' Pierson asks, 'before not only words but ideas become
subject to deletion?'"
http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/article/1742769
*Without* a time delay, the Oscars shows haven't exposed the American public to
nudity or obscenity. So why is it "ignorant" to argue against imposing a time
delay on this year's show?
I can't imagine why any child worthy of the name would want to watch an awards
show. It's not as if Nemo will be putting in an appearance. Don't kids have
anything better to do on a Sunday night -- like their homework? And ABC won't
lift a finger to keep all those low-cut gowns from frightening the menfolk.
>Talks about the delay on talk radio and says it's available for TV as well.
But it isn't imposed on football games, during which obscenities are spoken or
mouthed by players and coaches.
>DL, "Because, Hollywood is pretty much out of control.
>Doesn't have much respect for traditional family values. Readily
>becomes offensive to families and children. Simply because they
>can, they wanna, and that's how they compete with each other for
>attention. Hollywood is out of control ... "
>
Yes, Laura, "out of control." That's the ideal.
>Reads letter about faking it with husband. Husband's fake it when
>they do things for the wife that they don't want to, so the wife
>should do it as well.
>
But no more often? Cook dinner only as often as he changes the oil in the car?
Fake an orgasm no more frequently than he mows the lawn -- meaning never during
the Northeast winter?
>C2 0:20 DL. Reads a fax. Heard her on Roger Hegcock's show. Why
>didn't she support the Mormon's that Roger was vilifying. She says
>she didn't hear the preceding conversation.
But she heard enough of it that she decided to make a contribution. Laura
credits herself with having made a "cute" remark about plural marriage: that
one *man* in a marriage was enough. (Laura must spell "cute" S-T-U-P-I-D.)
>Blah, blah, blah, blah from Laura about how great the LDS
>church is and what a great contributor to her foundation they are.
But Laura also said what a fine, upstanding citizen Roger Hedgecock is, so --
consider the source.
"1985: San Diego Mayor Roger Hedgecock resigned after he was convicted of one
count of conspiracy and 12 counts of perjury. The charges stemmed from
allegations that he financed his 1983 mayoral campaign with more than $300,000
funneled through a political consulting firm. Hedgecock was sentenced to a year
in county custody, a fine and three years' probation. After the state Supreme
Court reversed the perjury convictions, Hedgecock made a deal with prosecutors.
He pleaded guilty to the felony conspiracy count that was reduced to a
misdemeanor and then dismissed in 1991. He served no time in jail."
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/probe/20030829-9999_z1m29scandal.html
>DL, "I'm sure this was a misunderstanding.
Laura says she doesn't know what happened, she declares her complete ignorance
of the facts, but she's sure that Roger Hedgecock must be innocent. Or that he
could make a plea bargain to make it go away.
>I know I'm misunderstood a lot. I will say something tongue in cheek, I will say
>something to be sarcastic to make a point, and I have a feeling that
>somebody turns on the radio just at that moment and DOESN'T get the context."
>
Oh, yeah, that explains all those controversies.
[snip]
>
>C5 Monologue. Book signing announcement. El Cajon this time. Del
>Mar fairground on Saturday. Reads a letter, something about husband
>leaving the autistic child alone. She got custody of the kids and
>house. He accepted Jesus just before the divorce and they got back
>together. She's now the SAHM and life is great.
>
The writer says she was one of those evil women with a job. Her husband begged
her not to take her love to town -- I mean, not to go to work -- but to stay at
home with him and the children. But no! While she was out having a good time
at the office, he left their ten-year-old autistic child with a five-year-old
sibling while he went to get pizza. The ten-year-old reported the incident.
Supposedly, the writer got a restraining order against her husband in response
to the incident. Two weeks later, the writer was awarded sole custody of the
children and the house and the bank account. A few weeks later, she was served
with divorce papers. The Jesus people got them together again, but he wants
nothing to do with her. For the past five years, he's kept a lawyer on retainer
and threatened her with divorce. The writer asks Laura for help. Laura moans
that the poor man was stripped of everything just with a few words from his wife
-- he's feeling vulnerable.
[snip]
>
>C8 2:45 Ellen. How does she follow through with the divorce that she
>doesn't want. Says she's trying to hold on even though there is no
>hope. He still is pursuing intimate contact. DL, "Tell him it's $500
>a pop." Laura calls her, "an unpaid whore."
>
Isn't it terrible how women abandon men with no regard for their feelings?
(Oops, sorry, I meant to turn the record over.)
Isn't it terrible how women don't require men to commit, or at the very least to
provide financial support in return for sexual access?
[snip]
>
>C9 8:30 Carmen. Recently got divorced. Says he said he was no longer
>in love with her. DL, "See, men used to have a sense of obligation.
>Now they have the same emotional, ah never mind. It's just terrible
>what we've done to men."
>
That may be why *you* dumped your first husband, Laura, but what do you mean,
"we"?
Was this the woman whose ex-husband insists on visiting the kids at her house?
Laura said she has to be nice to him for the sake of the kids but has to refuse
intimacy. And if he should disregard her refusal, I guess the kids will come
running to her aid.
[snip]
>
>C10 2:30 Ann. Four families in the Bible study group. All going on a
>trip to Mexico to build homes for the homeless. Kids are putting on a
>musical to raise money for the trip. This musical thing is free of
>charge but they're asking for donations. Husband wants daughter to
>get up and make a plea for donations. Daughter is a bit shy and
>doesn't want to do it. DL, "Simply because she has an opinion as a
>minor child it doesn't hold. Simply because she really has one.
>Okay? That doesn't work. I don't agree with that." DL, "Just
>because she finally said something, doesn't make her right."
>
This was funny. Laura said, no, Ann's daughter shouldn't make an appeal for
funds from the stage. Ann replied that her daughter -- who isn't pushy --
didn't want to make the appeal for funds. That's all Laura had to hear: just
because the girl expressed an opinion about this particular topic doesn't mean
she has a right to her opinion, and just because the girl usually goes along
with what is asked of her, doesn't mean she has a right to refuse this
particular request, and just because both mother and daughter think she
shouldn't make an appeal for funds is no reason for mother not to force daughter
to make the appeal. Ann was confused. She must not have received the memo that
says all females must be screwed.
[snip]
>
>C11 2:40 Elizabeth. C, "You're my hero."
Elizabeth isn't kidding. Elizabeth is a first-class bitch. Elizabeth has a
yolanda-sized grudge against her mother, and she wants to tell her half sister
what a slut their mother is.
>Caller is the product of a 7 year affair mom had.
Elizabeth seems to be giving her father (but not her mother) points for the
longevity of his adulterous relationship. Elizabeth's mother has been married
to her husband, the father of Elizabeth's half sister, for 20 years -- Elizabeth
refers to this as her mother's "new" marriage.
>Has a half sister who is unaware of this.
Elizabeth's half sister is 17 years old. Elizabeth's mother is now provoking
Elizabeth -- Elizabeth has NEVER been close to her mother, so this is just her
latest grievance -- by refusing to discuss with Elizabeth's half sister the
circumstances of Elizabeth's birth. (See how happy having the truth has made
Elizabeth; she wants to share this with her half sister.) Elizabeth professes
to be concerned that her half-sister might think that Elizabeth is the daughter
of some "bum." (Yup, that's right. Elizabeth is so eager to blacken her
mother's reputation that she wants to erase all doubt in her half sister's mind
that her father WAS a bum.)
>DL, "None of this is relevant to your sister."
>
Full marks, gold stars and all honor and glory to Laura. Laura got Elizabeth to
agree, quite painlessly, that her father shared responsibility for the affair.
Laura convinced Elizabeth that her half-sister has no right to inquire about
their mother's past. She encouraged Elizabeth to be someone her little sister
can look up to. This approach was far more compassionate to all involved, and
more likely to keep Elizabeth's nasty mouth shut -- than what I would have done,
which would have been to jump down Elizabeth's throat. Laura's advice worked so
well and so quickly, considering what Elizabeth had intended to do, that I
wonder whether this call was legit.
[snip]
>
>C12 5:15 Travis. Halfway through the book.
He could read faster if he'd trim his nails.
>Last night he did everything he could do to be the perfect man
>and husband. Told her he doesn't want to celebrate Valentine's Day
She's been naughty, not nice, so she's gettin' nuttin' fer Christmas!
>because he doesn't feel loved by her.
Childishness in an adult male is irresistible to any woman.
>DL, "Good for you!" DL, "In my opinion, you did the right thing."
>DL, "I think women have to be held accountable." Laura says he
>needs to read the book in front of her so she sees what he is reading.
>
Laura says she's so proud of him for refusing to celebrate Valentine's Day.
This was the same situation as in a BLT earlier in the show. I guess this
punishment would be crushing to a woman who doesn't work outside the home and is
kept on a strict allowance. But any other woman can buy her own damn
Valentine's Day gift.
[snip]
M is for Malapert
> DL, "Then there is, liberal ignorance. I'm sorry for you liberals who
> now feel insulted by the redundancy there but this is the kind of
> thing that drives me up a wall and drives me to say horrible things
> like liberal ignorance when I don't want to name call anybody. But
> I'm DRIVEN to it. I can NOT contain myself anymore."
She's just a poor victim of her feeelings and impulses, you see. Can't help
what she finds herself doing, even though she disapproves of it. Vaalyoos
go right out the window.
> DL, "Because, Hollywood
> is pretty much out of control. Doesn't have much respect for
> traditional family values.
Violence and hatred are, of course, traditional family values. Some kinds
of sexuality are not. E.g. it's okay for Laura to have taken naked pictures
for her boyfriend because she was so beautiful, but not okay for Janet
Jackson's boob to be exposed for a nanosecond on television.
> Reads letter about faking it with husband. Husband's fake it when
> they do things for the wife that they don't want to, so the wife
> should do it as well.
Is it okay for the wives to complain when they fake it, if the husbands do
so also? In other words, if the husband rubs it in that he's doing the wife
a big favor by shoveling the snow (which is really her job) or whines about
how he hates going to work, it's okay for the wife to do the same when she's
having sex? Just so long as she fakes having an orgasm at the very end, of
course.
> C4 3:55 Bill. When he got married he didn't know the wife was 30k in
> debt with credit cards. Says he has no trust in her at all. Laura
> calls this, "a reasonable response." DL, "The vows were taken with
> dishonesty. She set you up, with credit problems, and to be used
> financially without your knowledge. In my opinion she perpetrated a
> fraud on you."
Ideally both parties would come clean on their financial situations, but
it's harder to do that than to come clean on your sexual history. What
about forgiveness, tolerance, compromise and all the other things that have
to be done to make a marriage work?
> C7 0:30 Susanne. Divorced, dating a guy who is divorced as well.
> Dating for two years. Recently engaged. Should she tell him that she
> was molested as a child.
How is this any different from being in debt?
> C8 2:45 Ellen. How does she follow through with the divorce that she
> doesn't want. Says she's trying to hold on even though there is no
> hope. He still is pursuing intimate contact. DL, "Tell him it's $500
> a pop." Laura calls her, "an unpaid whore."
So much for Laura's respect for the sacred covenant of marriage. You're not
getting the benefits? Dump the guy, sucker.
> C9 Monologue. Reads letter from a SAHM and how great it is to be
> there for the kids when they are sick.
I was sick a lot when I was a kid and it didn't matter one whit to me
whether my mother was there to bring me my ginger ale or someone else was,
as long as I was at home in my own bed and the caregiver wasn't a total
stranger. As usual, SAHMoming is far more about the Mom than the kids.
> C9 3:05 Carrie. She and husband live in a nice house. Her mother and
> stepfather bought another house and want them to rent the house they
> are currently living in. Caller says it would benefit both parties.
> They're renting their current place as well. Laura says, "you will
> never have equity" if they don't buy. [I beg to differ. Why not
> continue renting and take the difference in what you pay for in rent
> and invest it. Plus, if you rent you're not obligated to major
> maintenance and repairs like furnaces, roofs, sidewalk repair, etc.
> That is additional money which could be put towards an investment.]
Very true, as long as people are disciplined enough TO invest the additional
money. Plus, you do get the tax deduction that can make owning cheaper than
renting. I have to agree about the extra money you wind up spending, not to
mention time, for repairs and such. Plus, there's insurance and so forth,
so it can be a wash or even worse. When you own you don't have that scary
feeling every time the landlord calls that you're going to lose your home,
but you merely trade it for that scary feeling whenever you hear an odd
noise in the depths of the house or notice the neighbors making plans to cut
down a tree or build a large addition. And not all houses appreciate in
value to any great degree; it depends on location and what the house is
like.
It interested me to learn that a minority of folks in Europe own their
homes. There is no special tax treatment for homeowners and in cities it's
traditional to rent or lease an apartment rather than own. They still often
go ahead and make major improvements, simply because they want to. And I
think they are more disciplined about saving than Americans are.
> DL, "I don't think this is a good idea because it leaves you
> vulnerable to whatever it is that they do in the future and don't do
> or sell or any of that." [She is utterly clueless as to the landlord
> tenant relationship, even when family members are involved. It's not
> as if her parents are going to one day say, we're selling, get your
> stuff out by next Friday. That is against the law. This is just
> horrible advice from Laura.] DL, "You called for my opinion. Not to
> debate with somebody."
But they didn't call for your uninformed, uneducated opinion colored
exclusively by your own atypical personal experiences. It's stupid to take
her advice without seeking opinions from others.
> C9 8:30 Carmen. Recently got divorced. Says he said he was no longer
> in love with her. DL, "See, men used to have a sense of obligation.
> Now they have the same emotional, ah never mind.
The same emotional WHAT? The same emotional attitude that women do??? Love
'em and leave 'em holding the baby, the way women always have over the
centuries? Bwahahahahaha.
> It's just terrible
> what we've done to men."
Uh huh. Men never abandoned women before the 1970s. Just didn't happen.
If I ever get around to posting my response to Cathy Young's article, I'll
have some examples of how UNtrue that is.
> C10 0:20 DL. Reads fax from a guy. Thanks her for the book. Says
> she understands men better then he does. It's a Valentine's Day
> lament. Can't please the wife no matter what he does.
Oh, I doubt that. Get "Light Her Fire" and those various 100 Ways to be
Romantic books and try a few of those techniques on her. Women want to feel
wanted and desired and taken seriously and listened to, just like men do.
That's where women's sense of security and being loved comes from, as does
men's, and it does include having sex - but not perfunctory sex or sex that
she always has to initiate because he's "so tired". Getting flowers on
Valentine's Day does not make up for being treated like a household drudge
all day and a rubber sex doll at night.
> C12 5:15 Travis. Halfway through the book. Last night he did
> everything he could do to be the perfect man and husband. Told her he
> doesn't want to celebrate Valentine's Day because he doesn't feel
> loved by her. DL, "Good for you!" DL, "In my opinion, you did the
> right thing." DL, "I think women have to be held accountable." Laura
> says he needs to read the book in front of her so she sees what he is
> reading.
And his wife needs to let him see HER reading "Light Her Fire" or something
similar. Men need to be held accountable too, because - gasp - it takes TWO
to make a marriage work.
Rob
>
>> C9 Monologue. Reads letter from a SAHM and how great it is to be
>> there for the kids when they are sick.
>
>I was sick a lot when I was a kid and it didn't matter one whit to me
>whether my mother was there to bring me my ginger ale or someone else was,
>as long as I was at home in my own bed and the caregiver wasn't a total
>stranger. As usual, SAHMoming is far more about the Mom than the kids.
>
This reminds me of my childhood. I would have been far happier to have
anyone other than my mother looking after me since she was (and still
is) impatient with anyone who is ill. I can't remotely imagine my
mother thinking it was great to stay home with a sick kid.
Mr. (Fair'n'Balanced) Red
telemanr*deletethis*@hotmail.com wrote:
Your inbred mom isn't related to L'il Jak's inbred slut mom, is she?
Cheers,
Mr. Red
--
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your families."
--GeeDubya Bush
Rob
Kind of a stunning question. I honestly don't understand the reason
for the nastiness.
M is for Malapert
"Rob" <tele*deletethis*ma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kvi2301uev0dmvcki...@4ax.com...
> This reminds me of my childhood. I would have been far happier to have
> anyone other than my mother looking after me since she was (and still
> is) impatient with anyone who is ill. I can't remotely imagine my
> mother thinking it was great to stay home with a sick kid.
Wow, that takes me back. I remember now that my mother was always annoyed
too when I first told her that I was sick. It was like she was being
accused of some kind of failure, and she probably did see it that way as an
ex-nurse and an early adapter of a "healthy", organic-foods type lifestyle.
However, once she was finally convinced you were actually ill, she came up
trumps. She was the kind of person who bought your favorite foods that you
weren't allowed when healthy (like ginger ale) and books you'd been longing
to read and that sort of thing. She'd put a special quilt on my bed and
tune the radio to KABL ("Beyootiful music - <fx cable car bell or fog
horn>). However, that was about it. She certainly didn't hover around my
bedside and I didn't want her to. She didn't *work* outside the home but
she did do a lot of volunteer activities at my school, was a Girl Scout
leader, and had a busy social life. Plus, running the house seemed to
require her to be away from it a lot. So oftentimes someone else would be
hanging around to fill my needs or I'd have a neighbor mom on call. And I
was perfectly happy to be alone with my books and so forth. What luxury, in
fact.
Perhaps the caller was talking about being at home with really little kids.
I don't remember much about that, but I was sick enough then too to wind up
in the hospital dehydrated and needing fluids intravenously. I think that
was during my mother's extended postpartum depression period, when she was
struggling with feeling really crazy and we had a housekeeper or live-in
student to help her out.
I do remember somewhat enjoying staying home with Andrew when he was little,
but not when he was a baby. It's so scary when babies are sick, if you have
any knowledge of the awful things that can (still) happen to them. On the
other hand, it was always fun to be with Andrew and when he was home from
school being sick and I'd take time off work too there were extra chances to
pamper him and such. He was very resistant to taking days off from school,
however. He would go to school with a runny nose or cough when I would've
leapt at the chance to stay home in a similar condition. Typically I'd have
to order him to stay home so as not to spread his disease to everyone else.
Not until he got to high school was I finally able to convince him to cut
classes, disobey rules, ignore teachers, etc. (But always politely.)
cmartin
> Feb 13
>
> STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This is NOT a transcript. This is a brief summary
> of calls which can be used for basing further discussion. To hear the
> show point your browser this way http://www.drlaura.com/listen/ But,
> you'll need to be a subscriber to her service now.
tx, Otis
>
> C1 Monologue. LA Times story on motorcycle officers. Brings this up
> because she has received a number of calls of guys wanting bikes when
> they have little kids.
Hunh. How old was Bunchkin when she got her bike? I take it she means
the kind with an engine in this context.
> >
> Reads letter about faking it with husband. Husband's fake it when
> they do things for the wife that they don't want to, so the wife
> should do it as well.
This is hard to believe.
Guys of art.d-l: Vote.
Yes, it's OK to fake it. ______
No, it's not. ______
>
> C2 0:20 DL. Reads a fax. Heard her on Roger Hegcock's show. Why
> didn't she support the Mormon's that Roger was vilifying. She says
> she didn't hear the preceding conversation. Blah, blah, blah, blah
> from Laura about how great the LDS church is and what a great
> contributor to her foundation they are. DL, "I'm sure this was a
> misunderstanding. I know I'm misunderstood a lot. I will say
> something tongue in cheek, I will say something to be sarcastic to
> make a point, and I have a feeling that somebody turns on the radio
> just at that moment and DOESN'T get the context."
Hunh again. Anyone hear this?
>
> C2 3:30 Kelli. Married 15 years. 10 years ago the caller says Laura
> saved her and the marriage. Has read the book and wants to help save
> her from making husband's life, "a living Hell."
the living Hell it's been since she got advice 10 yrs ago?
>
> C3 3:35 Drew(18). At five, dad passed. 3 years after that mom
> remarried. He's a nice step father. While he loves his step father
> he can't express his feelings. [Call is way to melodramatic for me.]
Well, DUH, Drew. Fake it!
>> C5 Monologue. Book signing announcement. El Cajon this time. Del
> Mar fairground on Saturday.
But is she billed above or below the puppet show?
> C9 8:30 Carmen. Recently got divorced. Says he said he was no longer
> in love with her. DL, "See, men used to have a sense of obligation.
> Now they have the same emotional, ah never mind. It's just terrible
> what we've done to men."
See? It's STILL THE WOMAN'S FAULT! He left and it's still her fault!
>> C11 0:25 Kim. Soon to be ex husband is living with somebody who is
> pregnant and planning a wedding. Due in August, wants to get married
> before the baby comes, is unaware he's still married. Says he doesn't
> want to sign the divorce papers. He's never given a clear answer.
> DL, "I think somebody is obligated to let her know what's happening to
> her. Because, all of us as decent people are obligated to tell
> somebody when somebody's perpetrating a fraud on them."
Clearly, the fraud is being perpetrated on the ex-husband, and it's
both Kim's fault, and the fault of his shack-up honey that he's been
victimized, the poor dear little lamb.
> > C12 0:30 DL. Reads letter from a female manager at a large medical
> practice on the females she works with who are working moms and how
> bad the kids are turning out.
Tell me how this doesn't fit the definition of gossip (from
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Gossip):
gos·sip ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gsp)
n.
Rumor or talk of a personal, sensational, or intimate nature.
A person who habitually spreads intimate or private rumors or facts.
Trivial, chatty talk or writing.
>>
> C12 9:00 Tom. Left first wife when daughter was 6. Remarried and
> with #2 for 18 years. Daughter is creating problems. Daughter took
> out a restraining order on him. DL, "If I were you I'd keep a
> distance and keep myself safe." DL, "Right now, she's dangerous."
>
>
Do Lew's kids have a restraining order on PhDL? That would be
interesting.
Otis
"cmartin" wrote
> >
> > C1 Monologue. LA Times story on motorcycle officers. Brings this up
> > because she has received a number of calls of guys wanting bikes when
> > they have little kids.
>
> Hunh. How old was Bunchkin when she got her bike? I take it she means
> the kind with an engine in this context.
>
I've been riding a motorcycle now for longer then I had ridden competitive
bicycles. Over the same span of time I was more injured from the bicycle
then the motorcycle.
> > >
> > Reads letter about faking it with husband. Husband's fake it when
> > they do things for the wife that they don't want to, so the wife
> > should do it as well.
>
> This is hard to believe.
> Guys of art.d-l: Vote.
> Yes, it's OK to fake it. ______
> No, it's not. ______
>
Seriously, what's the point of doing it if she's faking it? I do things
with/for her that we both know I don't want to do. It's part of being
married. I'm not "faking" it as Laura says. Can't understand how if I am
obligated to attend some BORING function with her that it would be the same
as she laying on her back and having sex just because she feels "obligated".
There are things[1] she does for/with me just the same. I figure the two
kind of cancel each other out. Sex should be something special and shared,
not done out of obligation
Otis
[1] She has to put up with a LOT of my racing activities. I guess some of
it rubbed off. Last Sunday she was killing time at the mall and stopped at
a place for lunch. Two guys were sitting next to her and arguing a point
about NASCAR. Wouldn't you know it, she had the answer for them.
Rob
>(But always politely.)
And I would expect nothing less from you or yours.
To be fair to my mom, partly it is fear as you pointed out about sick
babies. I see this now when my dad (who's had strokes) gets a spell
and she gets impatient with him. It's really because she's afraid and
it's her way of trying to deny that anything bad is happening.
cmartin
(snip)
>
> [1] She has to put up with a LOT of my racing activities. I guess some of
> it rubbed off. Last Sunday she was killing time at the mall and stopped at
> a place for lunch. Two guys were sitting next to her and arguing a point
> about NASCAR. Wouldn't you know it, she had the answer for them.
Good on Julie! I bet the guys were astonished.
mms...@nova.com
>Oti...@rocketmail.com (Otis) wrote in message news:<596807af.04021...@posting.google.com>...
>> Feb 13
>>
>> STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This is NOT a transcript. This is a brief summary
>> of calls which can be used for basing further discussion. To hear the
>> show point your browser this way http://www.drlaura.com/listen/ But,
>> you'll need to be a subscriber to her service now.
>
>tx, Otis
>
[snip]
>> >
>> Reads letter about faking it with husband. Husband's fake it when
>> they do things for the wife that they don't want to, so the wife should do it as well.
>
>This is hard to believe.
>Guys of art.d-l: Vote.
>Yes, it's OK to fake it. ______
>No, it's not. ______
>
We're talking Laura here, so the question is, *should* wives fake it? I'd think
that faking it might be required of a woman who made the mistake of marrying a
man who doesn't care about her pleasure (oh, there would have to be *some* way a
virgin would know that about her fiance before she married him). But if he
doesn't care if she has pleasure, why should she bother to fake it? Faking it
might be required of the wife of a man who won't give her what she needs, but
that shouldn't be the case if husbands are really willing to do things for their
wives that they don't want to. So faking it should be done by women who don't
want to be bothered by their easily-deceived husbands for any longer than is
absolutely necessary.
>>
>> C2 0:20 DL. Reads a fax. Heard her on Roger Hegcock's show. Why
>> didn't she support the Mormon's that Roger was vilifying. She says
>> she didn't hear the preceding conversation. Blah, blah, blah, blah
>> from Laura about how great the LDS church is and what a great
>> contributor to her foundation they are. DL, "I'm sure this was a
>> misunderstanding. I know I'm misunderstood a lot. I will say
>> something tongue in cheek, I will say something to be sarcastic to
>> make a point, and I have a feeling that somebody turns on the radio
>> just at that moment and DOESN'T get the context."
>
>Hunh again. Anyone hear this?
>
She meant that her listener must have misunderstood poor Roger, because such a
swell guy would never say anything against such a fine group of people in
general. After all, Laura was there with Roger, and she didn't even hear what
he said, so how bad could it have been, really? She made a cute and completely
irrelevant comment about polyandry when she was introduced; that proves her
utter innocence and ignorance about any Mormon-bashing. Listeners unfairly
assess a talk-show host's comments taken out of context, and that's why Laura
always welcomes us to consult the transcripts of her shows.
http://www.glaad.org/action/campaigns_detail.php?id=3307
>>
[snip]
>
>> C9 8:30 Carmen. Recently got divorced. Says he said he was no longer
>> in love with her. DL, "See, men used to have a sense of obligation.
>> Now they have the same emotional, ah never mind. It's just terrible
>> what we've done to men."
>
>See? It's STILL THE WOMAN'S FAULT! He left and it's still her fault!
>
Well, strictly speaking, it's the *women's* fault. Carmen herself could be free
of all responsibility for the breakup of her own marriage, but as a member of
the sex that's just ruined the other sex, she shares in the gender guilt. If it
weren't for those darn feminists, Carmen's husband would think that Carmen
wouldn't be able to live without him, so he'd be afraid to leave. Or maybe it's
that he wouldn't have been able to leave her at all, if only those darn
feminists hadn't dreamed up no-fault divorce. See, other women screwed Carmen.
But I'd like to know whose "emotional, ah never mind" it is that men today
share. Was Laura going to say that women have succeeded in changing the basic
nature of the boys and men they get their hands on, so that now men require
romance and personal fulfillment in their lives, just as women do? Have women
made men women?
[snip]
>> C12 9:00 Tom. Left first wife when daughter was 6. Remarried and
>> with #2 for 18 years. Daughter is creating problems. Daughter took
>> out a restraining order on him. DL, "If I were you I'd keep a
>> distance and keep myself safe." DL, "Right now, she's dangerous."
>>
>Do Lew's kids have a restraining order on PhDL? That would be interesting.
The words "restraining order" have become code words on this show. It's an
indication of female insanity and/or viciousness. In this case, Tom never did
nuttin' to nobody, but once his 24-year-old daughter got her restraining order
(at Writs R Us), Tom and his second wife fled the state, just to be sure.
M is for Malapert
> To be fair to my mom, partly it is fear as you pointed out about sick
> babies. I see this now when my dad (who's had strokes) gets a spell
> and she gets impatient with him. It's really because she's afraid and
> it's her way of trying to deny that anything bad is happening.
Yep, exactly.
Which makes it even more weird to have someone rhapsodizing about the joys
of taking care of a sick child.