US soldiers allegedly trading pictures of dead Iraqis & Afghanis for porn
gc
WARNING.. the photos don't show up on the blog, they are from a Web
site hosted in Holland. It's said they appear and disappear. The
description is horrible and I'm not looking at the Web site. It is
still a reality we need to inquire about.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/browse_frm/thread/e2eeda4cc7410281/71c38e60272cff30#71c38e60272cff30
the blogger writes:
"Now, before I go any further, I want to explain why I believe this
site is legit. The pictures on the site are of real dead people, that
is obvious. The dead also appear Middle Eastern. The soldiers in the
pictures appear American and real. And the pictures are recent, rather
than from, say, the Vietnam war. Next, the text accompanying the
photos is clearly American and from native speakers, and if you read
the back and forth - there are a lot of visitors to the site who are
not happy about the pictures posted there - the responses from the
"soldiers" sounds like what you'd get from real Americans and real
soldiers. Finally, I looked at one photo on the site, allegedly
showing a dead Iraqi man shot in his car while trying to go through a
check-point. I zoomed in on the man's license plate and compared it to
a picture of an Iraqi license plate I found on the Internet - they're
identical:
Therefore, I'm publishing the photos and helping to spread the word
about this site, because we need answers from our government as to why
more photos of US soldiers with dead people are floating around the
Internet. This is discussed in more detail at the end of my post. And
finally, check out this page from the site and tell me these photos
aren't real."
WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
Personally, this site sickens me. But I asked myself "why"? War is
horrible, and these pictures simply show us the war we don't see on
our TV screens. Is there some glorification of killing going on? Sure.
And having this on a sex site only makes the glorification that much
creepier. But having said, I can't imagine what it must be like for
our soldiers to look at scenes like this, day in and day out, for
real, up close and personal. That has got to take its toll, and I
wouldn't be surprised if, for some of these guys, posting these kind
of photos is their own version of therapy. Yes, it's gruesome - but
unexpected?
Having said all of that, I still find this incredibly troublesome,
dehumanizing, immoral, and wonder how legal all of this is as well
(per the Geneva Conventions - you remember them, I believe the Bush
administration called them quaint). I worry about what this kind of
activity does to our culture, to our soldiers, and to our society. How
it debases us slowly, gradually, without our even knowing it. I worry
about these soldiers when they come back to the US after having seen
all this gore. What kind of productive members of society will they
be? I worry about all of us who have no clue that war is THIS
gruesome. I worry about our government that think this kind of thing
should be hidden from the public, and that it's a acceptable cost of
going to war.
And maybe it IS an acceptable cost of going to war. But that in and of
itself should tell us something. There ARE costs of going to war. Most
Americans have yet to fully comprehend what it means to have 2,000 US
soldiers dead, and tens of thousands injured, in this war. They have
yet to comprehend the level of violence, the level of civilian
casualties. They have yet to comprehend what this war is doing to our
soldiers, and what it's doing to our own national psyche. Yes, these
are all costs of going to war. But if these costs are hidden from the
public, then it's not something they take into account when
"approving" of the war, and thus their consent is hardly informed.
That's why I'm publishing this story. I can't say for 100% that these
photos really are our service members, that the pics really are of
dead Iraqis and Afghanis, or that they were posted by US soldiers. But
everything about this story rings true (and let's not forget the US
has a history of these photo abuses of the Iraqi dead). Worse yet,
even if this site is a fake, it's already flying around the Internet -
and has been live for over a year. This Web site, real or fake, is
going to be another public relations disaster for the US, and a
bonanza recruiting tool for Al Qaeda.
Our government needs to tell us, fast, whether this is for real or
not, and what they plan on doing about it.
gc
It's LOST
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.radio.talk.dr-laura/browse_frm/thread/3bf708cee7a94a66/5fb68088cb79bad8#5fb68088cb79bad8
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.radio.talk.dr-laura/browse_frm/thread/a3ea202460970505?scoring=d&
Glenn Beck
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On Oct 24, 8:29 pm, gc <lol7...@msn.com> wrote:
> Monday, September 26, 2005
> WARNING.. the photos don't show up on the blog, they are from a Web
> site hosted in Holland. It's said they appear and disappear. The
> description is horrible and I'm not looking at the Web site. It is
> still a reality we need to inquire about.http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/browse_frm/thread/e2eeda4...