--
Dave
"Tam multi libri, tam breve tempus!"
(Et brevis pecunia.) [Et breve spatium.]
"Probably," Mr. Cheney replied.
Mr. Kean and Mr. Hamilton said that, in particular, they wanted any
information available to back Mr. Cheney's suggestion that one of the
hijackers might have met in Prague in April 2001 with an Iraqi
intelligence agent, a meeting that the panel's staff believes did not
take place. Mr. Cheney said in an interview with CNBC on Thursday that
the administration had never been able to prove the meeting took place
but was not able to disprove it either.
"We just don't know," Mr. Cheney said.
Mr. Kean and Mr. Hamilton made the requests in separate interviews with
The New York Times as the White House continued to question the findings
of a staff report the commission released on Wednesday and to take
exception to the way the report was characterized in news accounts. The
report found that there did not appear to have been a "collaborative
relationship" between Iraq and the terrorist network.
That finding appeared to undermine one of the main justifications cited
by Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney for invading Iraq and toppling Mr. Hussein.
From: NY Times June 19, 2004
Leaders of 9/11 Panel Ask Cheney for Reports
By PHILIP SHENON and RICHARD W. STEVENSON
David C Kifer wrote:
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Perception verses reality – it's a point that needs to be made until
the cows come home.
Did you know that on Tuesday of this week Hamid Karzai, the president
of Afghanistan, addressed a joint session of Congress? Did you know
that not one word of that address, nor even any mention that the event
even occurred, appeared in the following day's national edition of the
New York Times?
Aide from a photograph of President Bush and Mr. Karzai on its front page,
and a caption mentioning that the two had a news conference in the Rose
Garden, the June 16 edition of the New York Times contains not a single
word about what Mr. Karzai said to Congress, to Bush or to the American
people.
Why the cover up?
--Bob Kohn, Gray Lady spikes Karzai story
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39035
Why? Too much good news, too much gratitude, and too much support for
GWB's past actions and proposed future actions for the pro-Kerry
editors of major media, I suspect...
Read Karzai's speech here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122728,00.html
I read the staff report itself, as well as several news accounts, and
drew the conclusion that there were no collaborative relationships.
The staff report says as much. I look forward to the clarification.
But "blasts"? Lee Hamilton "blasts"? And on PBS NewsHour? What does
"blasts" from Lee Hamilton sound like?
ObQuote:
At Mr. Thrale's, in the evening, he repeated his usual paradoxical
declamation against action in publick speaking. Johnson: "Action can
have no effect upon reasonable minds. It may augment noise, but it
never can enforce argument. If you speak to a dog, you use action; you
hold up your hand thus, because he is a brute; and in proportion as
men are removed from brutes, action will have the less influence on
them."
- James Boswell: Life of Johnson
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"Captured documents"? Hmmm.
As reliable as the old WMD claims?
Are Republicans attempting to rewrite the commission's report even
before it is released?
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Right Honorable Do-Nothings.
---Winston Churchill
--Jay Robert
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--Jay Robert
>U.S. officials expressed doubt on Monday that a prominent member of al
>Qaeda served as an officer in Saddam Hussein's militia, disputing
>intelligence cited by a member of the commission investigating the
>September 11 attacks.
>Republican commissioner John Lehman said on Sunday the new intelligence,
>if proven true, would buttress claims by the Bush administration of ties
>between Iraq and the militant network.
>"We are now in the process of getting this latest intelligence," Lehman
>told NBC's "Meet the Press."
>But US officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said they had no
>indication there was a high-level al Qaeda official in Saddam's militia.
>Lehman told NBC the intelligence was contained in "captured documents"
>and was obtained after the commission's staff report was written.
>The staff report said there was no evidence of a "collaborative
>relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda...Despite the commission's
>findings, President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney continue
>to insist that al Qaeda and Iraq had long-standing ties.
> ---News, TV New Zealand, June 22 2004
An interesting point about this story in my mind is that when Lehman
and Ben Veniste mentioned this supposed individual, even =they= seemed
to have low confidence in it.
Lehman: "...some of these documents indicate that there is at least
one officer of Saddam's Fedayeen, a lieutenant colonel, who was a very
prominent member of al-Qaeda. That still has to be confirmed."
Ben Veniste: "With respect to the individual that John Lehman has
talked about, who is supposedly a member of the Fedayeen, the storm
troopers of Saddam Hussein's former army, we don't know whether that's
the same individual as an individual who had some contact with
al-Qaeda operatives."
(both from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5255893/ )
Every novelty appears more wonderful as it is more remote from any
thing with which experience or testimony has hitherto acquainted us;
and if it passes further beyond the notions that we have been
accustomed to form, it becomes at last incredible.
- Samuel Johnson: Idler #87