And Here I thought.............
Mike Madias
>Rush clone
The key word here is not Rush but "clone". It is probably
meant by you in humorous exageration, as Rush might use it
himself. Problem is, and the gift on loan from God would
probably agree, is that there are probably millions who
thoughtlessly mimic or "clone" their persona's on Rush's
persona. I am not interested in sharing a cup of joe or
the room for that matter with a Rush clone.
On the other hand, I enjoy Bill Buckley and George Will. I
enjoy P.J. O'Rourke. Michael Moore attacks big government
and big corporations (big government clones). So I
don't mind people who poke fun at our institutions, or who
are conservitive.
So, I urge you to re-consider, as you sit on the sidelines,
and If you choose to speak up, please do. You might be a jerk
on your own meritts or might be a pretty good guy, like the rest
us bozos in this coffeehouse. Just don't come in with an
obvious "kick me" sign on your back like "Rush Clone".
I suspect that anyone who came in as someone whose sole
purpose was to convert the lot to fundamentalist Chritianity
would get equally flamed (or perhaps stoned with extreme
sanction - (-: .)
If you talk about you, it will be fine, nolo problomiono.
If you want to talk Rush's brand of VR, there is Rushnet.
Your receipt of flames was because you were going "off topic"
IMHO.
As for politics, I think of the old Bob Dylan lyric, "If
my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd prob'ly put my
had into a guilotine, but it's alright Ma, it's life and
life only."
BTW, happy new year, John.
Mickey
John Dill
Well, hell, I don't know exactly what I thought about this place
..my admission to being a Rush clone got more flames than a warm place
like this should have generated.....perhaps I'll sit along the side of
the road and watch the traffic for a bit....
Here's to a super 1995 to all!
John
--
"Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full!"
ThunderFoot
Evan shakes his head sadly, "This place does not need intolerance from
anyone. It is just as acceptable, however distasteful to me personally, to
discuss American politics here as any other subject, but that is not the
issue. John, by the way you phrased your statement, "I better confess..."
you obviously had some idea of the response it would bring, and were
therefore rather silly to do so. You should just be yourself and let people
judge you from that. And Mickey, you complain about not wanting to share
the room with a "Rush clone", but show yourself to be just as intolerant
of other people's views and insensitive to their feelings."
His brow furrows, his eyes staring evilly from under his veil of hair,
"Both of you need to grow up. Open your minds or I may have to find a
crowbar and do it for you."
/\_____ "There is Death, and there is Oblivion,
// ~ / .\_____ and, of the two,
/ \ \ ' .. \/ Oblivion is the kinder master..."
// \ /~__ -_/
/\/ |\/ / ~-- Evan ~ThunderFoot~ Gibson
/ \\\| \ Bale Wolf of the Greater Yawning Dark
/ / \
/ "The longer I am off a leash the more feral I become..."
Skatha
(ThunderFoot) wrote:
> Evan shakes his head sadly, "This place does not need intolerance from
> anyone. It is just as acceptable, however distasteful to me personally, to
> discuss American politics here as any other subject, but that is not the
> issue. John, by the way you phrased your statement, "I better confess..."
> you obviously had some idea of the response it would bring, and were
> therefore rather silly to do so. You should just be yourself and let people
> judge you from that. And Mickey, you complain about not wanting to share
> the room with a "Rush clone", but show yourself to be just as intolerant
> of other people's views and insensitive to their feelings."
>
person, solely because of their views. The only trouble area, I think, is
when someone tries to push their own views onto someone else - offering
your own opinions is fine, but berating or insulting them until the only
way they can get any peace is to accept is totally disrespectful. John, as
long as you are yourself, you are welcome here. And by the way, why would
anyone want to be a clone of anyone else? Interest lies in variety."
> His brow furrows, his eyes staring evilly from under his veil of hair,
> "Both of you need to grow up. Open your minds or I may have to find a
> crowbar and do it for you."
>
Jess winces as she tries to imagine what that would look like. "Yeowch!
That could get ugly. But I'm inclined to agree with you on that...."
> /\_____ "There is Death, and there is Oblivion,
> // ~ / .\_____ and, of the two,
> / \ \ ' .. \/ Oblivion is the kinder master..."
> // \ /~__ -_/
> /\/ |\/ / ~-- Evan ~ThunderFoot~ Gibson
> / \\\| \ Bale Wolf of the Greater Yawning Dark
> / / \
> / "The longer I am off a leash the more feral I become..."
----Skatha
(jepe...@students.wisc.edu)
"I dream in Technicolor!"
Surreality is your friend.
And so is Bob.
Mike Madias
>insensitive to others feelings
Insensitive to others feelings? Mickey says suprised. Wow!
Well either I was misread (unprobably) of this is true and I
don't see it (probably).
What do you mean, how do I show insensitivity here?
I am game to consider it but what you say is not clear.
Probably it isn't a public matter, so give me a clue
privately, if you would. sez Mickey - who usually values and
needs a reality check.
RCM...@delphi.com
Quoting ak336 from a message in alt.pub.coffeehouse.amethyst
> Well, hell, I don't know exactly what I thought about this place
> like this should have generated.....perhaps I'll sit along the side of
> the road and watch the traffic for a bit....
Harper shrugs. "I can't say that I care much for Rush, but one of the
things I like about Amethyst is that it exposes me to all kinds of people
and views. I have no problem with your being here." She frowns. "Have I
introduced myself? I'm Harper. Welcome to Amethyst. I got the feeling you
were hoping to stir up a little controversy, the way you introduced
yourself. Anyway, I don't discuss politics much. And, as Evan pointed out,
it is a question of *American* politics. We have an international clientele
here in Amethyst -- folks from the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand --
many of them won't care what Rush thinks about Clinton's latest policy.
Heck, a lot of the Americans may not care!
"I'm not sure if politics is `off-topic' for Amethyst, as someone suggested.
I'm not sure if *anything* is off-topic for Amethyst, really. Most of us
come in here to relax, be silly, share joys and sorrows with our friends,
discuss food, relationships, poetry, music, slinkies(tm), and The Meaning
of Life. Any of those topics interest you, John? If not, feel free to
start up a new one. It IS the new year, after all. Time we had some new
threads in here." She raises her mugful of mulled cider again. "Here's
looking at you, kid."
> Here's to a super 1995 to all!
> John
> --
> "Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full!"
Harper (rcm...@delphi.com)
"Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
Me, indecisive? I don't think I am, do you?
Rainbow V 1.09 for Delphi - Test Drive
Claudia Marie
>Well, hell, I don't know exactly what I thought about this place
>..my admission to being a Rush clone got more flames than a warm place
>like this should have generated.....perhaps I'll sit along the side of
>the road and watch the traffic for a bit....
"Heck. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who likes this place is
welcome here. I'm sorry I didn't welcome you originally...
Christmastime business and all."
"I think the thing that led to a strange reception was the way
you chose to introduce yourself. I don't recall many (any)
introductions on newsgroups like this that specified the poster's
political leanings... those tend to sort of come up as we get
to know each other. And when you said you half-expected flames
(you did say that, right? I don't have the original handy) for
it it would be a bit much to expect people *not* to mention it
one way or the other."
"Ah, well. Welcome to the Amethyst. I'm a bit of a libertarian
myself, so I imagine we'll have our points of agreement. And
where we disagree, well, I'll listen to you carefully, and I
hope you'll do the same."
Claudia smiles and sips her hot chocolate
--
"I don't know why I can't think of anything I would rather do
Than be wasting my time on mountains with you." -- Chess
Emma Wilson
> "Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full!"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Hey..." The mention of a well known phrase wakes Emma from
her peaceful slumber. "Another Top Gun fan - I just lurve
that film!"
"Sorry to hear you got flamed - I haven't been around for
a while so missed your original post. Don't take it personally,
the folks here are alright"
Emma, drifting back into post-New Year slumber
Doug Quarnstrom
: >Rush clone
: The key word here is not Rush but "clone". It is probably
: meant by you in humorous exageration, as Rush might use it
: himself. Problem is, and the gift on loan from God would
: probably agree, is that there are probably millions who
: thoughtlessly mimic or "clone" their persona's on Rush's
: persona. I am not interested in sharing a cup of joe or
: the room for that matter with a Rush clone.
: On the other hand, I enjoy Bill Buckley and George Will. I
: enjoy P.J. O'Rourke.
I really like Will and O'Rourke. I don't know much about
Buckley. I detest Rush. What is the difference? Rush is
a blowhard who isn't nearly the thinker he pretends he is.
: Michael Moore attacks big government
: and big corporations (big government clones). So I
: don't mind people who poke fun at our institutions, or who
: are conservitive.
I have nothing against conservatism either.
doug
Doug Quarnstrom
: Jess nods. "I agree. There is no reason why anyone should exclude another
: person, solely because of their views.
Depends entirely on the views...
doug
Doug Quarnstrom
: Well, hell, I don't know exactly what I thought about this place
: ..my admission to being a Rush clone got more flames than a warm place
: like this should have generated.....perhaps I'll sit along the side of
: the road and watch the traffic for a bit....
...and were you really a Rush clone, sitting and watching would never
enter your mind.
doug
Jenny K
> Well, hell, I don't know exactly what I thought about this place
> ..my admission to being a Rush clone got more flames than a warm place
> like this should have generated.....perhaps I'll sit along the side of
> the road and watch the traffic for a bit....
"Well .. I didn't respond to your earlier comments because, as a Brit,
I'm not very sure what a Rush clone would be like."
Jenny looks a little puzzled. "Why introduce yourself that way? Can't
you just be here as the original, one-and-only John rather than a clone
of anyone? If you thought some of your political views wouldn't be very
popular, then labelling yourself that way was only ever going to make it
worse.
"Still, I don't like the idea of anyone being flamed in Amethyst, even
if they seem to be inviting it, and I don't see why politics is any more
off-topic than religion, or even pillow-fights! BTW I didn't interpret
Mickey's comment as intolerance ... I thought he was just making the same
point as me, that he wouldn't want to chat with a _clone_ of anyone."
"So, stay and chat, and get into discussions and arguments, and as long
as you are don't sling personal insults at people, I don't think some
differences of opinion will cause Amethyst or any of its patrons to go up
in flames."
--
Jenny K, wishing everyone a belated Happy New Year
ThunderFoot
`: Jess nods. "I agree. There is no reason why anyone should exclude another
`: person, solely because of their views.
`Depends entirely on the views...
Evan laughs, "Welcome back, doug... Hope you had a not entirely unhappy
Christmas and New Year..."
Mike Madias
>Hey John, stay and chat.
Right on John, let's do what others have failed to do, lets
have an inteligent and non-abusive talk about politics.
I am up for it. You might be surprized at what an old leftie
like me might sayand might agree with.
Mickey (M-I-C -see ya real soon- K-E-Y - why the hell not)
Springer
>
>Well, hell, I don't know exactly what I thought about this place
>..my admission to being a Rush clone got more flames than a warm place
Springer:
"When I grow up, I wanna be a Rush clone -- all three of them at
once!
"Oh... never mind. Wrong Rush. Well, anyway, since I didn't say
hi when you came in... hi!"
Springer, welcomey.
Springer
>
>Evan shakes his head sadly, "This place does not need intolerance from
>anyone. It is just as acceptable, however distasteful to me personally, to
>discuss American politics here as any other subject, but that is not the
>issue.
Springer:
"Hee-hee."
>His brow furrows, his eyes staring evilly from under his veil of hair,
>"Both of you need to grow up. Open your minds or I may have to find a
>crowbar and do it for you."
"I've seen him do it -- this can get brutal...."
Springer....
"Haven't you ever heard the philosophy that says that once a man has admitted
his mistake he is immediately forgiven?"
"Motherfucker who said that never had to pick up itty-bitty pieces of
skull...."
-- _Pulp_Fiction_, inexact quote.
mike wasson
richard john burton <ric...@volcano.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I'm worried too. In the UK the subject has attracted hour long national
>radio programmes on this matter; particularly, the alleged anti-democratic
> methods that people are using to become school governors. The programme
>pointed up their dedication to the "creationist view" and their attempts
>to suppress the Darwin/post-Darwinist ideas.
Yah. That stuff can get me angry -- but somehow I don't think it
matters much in the long run. If the Catholic church couldn't suppress
Copernicanism, the Protestant fundies won't be able to suppress
Darwinism. Science seems to work that.
I worry we're going to have prayer in school and suffer big setbacks
in gay rights. And I worry about the surge of xenophobia my country
is manifesting these days.
>The great thing about America, as I see it, is its huge creative potential;
>both in the Arts and Sciences. If the religious right get out of control
>and ban evolution theory, then all we'll see of the US here will be a
>dull, self satisfied dinosaur.....but that's if we don't get sucked in too!
These things go in cycles maybe. I dunno.
Mike
--
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"It is easier to move a mountain than to change one's character."
(Chinese saying)
RCM...@delphi.com
Richard:
> >The great thing about America, as I see it, is its huge creative
>potential; >both in the Arts and Sciences. If the religious right get
>out of control >and ban evolution theory, then all we'll see of the US
>here will be a >dull, self satisfied dinosaur....
Springer:
> "Eeek! It's already happened!"
> And Springer takes Richard aside, to explan the Barney phenomenon to
> him.
> Springer, a fat purple dinosaur.
Harper looks guilty. "This Saturday, I went to Long Island to celebrate my
niece's 3rd birthday. I asked my sister what Melissa needed -- the kid's
room looks like a toy store exploded -- and she said... Barney videos. So
I got a couple. After the party, I told my sister, `You know, I *really*
hate Barney.' She said, `Anything that keeps her attention for that long
is great!'. Shortly before we left, she put one of the tapes in the VCR,
and I had to leave the room." Harper shudders at the memory. "Forgive
me!"
Harper rcm...@delphi.com
"Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
"First things first, but not necessarily in that order." -- Dr. Who
Rainbow V 1.10 for Delphi - Test Drive
mike wasson
>`I worry we're going to have prayer in school and suffer big setbacks
>`in gay rights. And I worry about the surge of xenophobia my country
>`is manifesting these days.
>
>have become almost synonymous."
I live in Hawaii, so I dunno. It's different here. And before that, I
grew up in New York. ("We're not prejudiced, we hate everyone.")
>He shakes his head sadly, "I would love to
>see true racial and religious freedom the world over, but it aint gonna
>happen. Too many people are bloody scared and unsure of themselves. There
>are whole realms of probability that people do not consider because of
>fear of finding out they may be wrong. And this isn't pointed at anyone in
>particular, it's pointed at EVERYONE in particular. It's doesn't really
>matter who's in power, it's more a matter of choosing which particular
>prejudice you feel most approximates your own.
I think you're right that it doesn't matter which particular group is
in power. I fear the Christian right not because they're Christian
(that's not at all the issue), or heterosexual, but because they're
smug at being part of a majority in this country and don't seem to
have any clue what it's like to be part of a minority population.
But there are lots of tolerant people in the world, so I don't think
it's hopeless. Surely not everyone is a hypocrite?
Kimberlee Titus
On 8 Jan 1995, ThunderFoot wrote:
> `I worry we're going to have prayer in school and suffer big setbacks
> `in gay rights. And I worry about the surge of xenophobia my country
> `is manifesting these days.
>
> Evan smiles, "In the rest of the world the words "xenophobic" and "American"
> have become almost synonymous." He shakes his head sadly, "I would love to
> see true racial and religious freedom the world over, but it aint gonna
> happen. Too many people are bloody scared and unsure of themselves. There
>
> Evan wonders why this is in the future tense, he smiles, "I know I'm kinda
> out-numbered, but I haven't done any america-bashing for ages..."
>
Kandace listens with interest, feeling a little like america-bashing
herself. "I am tired of people being prejudiced and racist and
religiously fanatical, and all of the other extremes. I would like there
to be justice, but in our system, I don't see it happening much anymore.
I have become disillusioned with the way things are going in a country
with so much supposed freedom. I believe in personal prayer and my
daughter prays every day, but there is no way I am going to let someone
force her to do it at school. I am tired of all of the gay-bashing and the
fear of homosexuality that goes along with it. The importance society
places on sexuality is horrendous whether it be homo, bi, or hetero or
anything else I have missed.
I feel that the American government and the media has a lot to do with
the fear and hatred that is becoming so widespread. I wanted to become
a journalist when I was younger, but then I became too idealistic. It
just sickens me that the media preys upon people's misfortune, stirs
up people's fears, and hypes up the news stories to get the big ratings.
They cause people to be unsure of themselves while feeding subtle (or not
so subtle) stereotypes. They sensationalize stories to keep people's
attentions away from where they truly belong. My theory is (and forgive
me if I sound a little paranoid... I'm not trying for the Oliver Stone
award here) that the middle class is being purposely torn apart by big
business, the media and the government. If they can keep everyone in
the middle class at odds and afraid of each other, envious of the rich,
and afraid of becoming the poor; *and* keep the hatred going between races,
sexual orientations, religions, and even the sexes, then the middle class
will not unite and reach the potential of power that I believe we have."
Kandace gets off of her soapbox and can't believe that she went off like
that. "Sorry if I offended anyone," she offers sheepishly.
Kandace, wishing for national peace.
Timothy Clarke
: `I worry we're going to have prayer in school and suffer big setbacks
: `in gay rights. And I worry about the surge of xenophobia my country
: `is manifesting these days.
"And it scares the crap out of me also. However...
: Evan smiles, "In the rest of the world the words "xenophobic" and "American"
: have become almost synonymous." He shakes his head sadly, "I would love to
"I believe that 'the rest of the world' see it this way, but are we
really that more xenophobic than the vast majority of other countries?
look at what's happening in the former Soviet Union. Look at Africa.
Witness the rise of nationalism in Germany. When I was in Korea
I constantly heard from Koreans about how horrible those around them
were. I think it's more of a xeno-indifference or xeno-apathy.
"I appear, sometimes, to have a 'Love it or leave it' attitude, but I
don't. America is broken. Hell, the whole world is broken. Militant
conservatives can't fix it. Bleeding heart liberals can't fix it. Maybe
it's time to let the middle-of-the-road types have a shot. Where, oh
where are the passionate leaders of this forgot segment?"
: Evan wonders why this is in the future tense, he smiles, "I know I'm kinda
: out-numbered, but I haven't done any america-bashing for ages..."
"S'okay" Tim grins. "I haven't played 'Staunch Defender of the Flag' in
ages"
Tim
RCM...@delphi.com
Quoting KimberleeTitus<ktitus from a message in alt.pub.coffeehouse.amethyst
[Long, thoughtful post about intolerance deleted]
> Kandace gets off of her soapbox and can't believe that she went off
>like that. "Sorry if I offended anyone," she offers sheepishly.
"Not me," Harper says. "I share your concerns about the trends in this
country. Unfortunately, I think most of the intolerant people out there
live in closed communities. They socialize primarily with people like
themselves. Many of them may not know a [fill in name of minority group]
personally. That kind of ignorance doesn't excuse their attitude at all,
but it probably explains some of it."
"One of the things I like about Amethyst -- and Usenet in general -- is
that it exposes me to a diverse range of people and ideas."
> Kandace, wishing for national peace.
"Amen."
Harper rcm...@delphi.com
"Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
(D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza.
Doug Quarnstrom
: Doug Quarnstrom (d...@fc.hp.com) wrote:
: To me, it depends on how they express their views, rather than
: the views themselves. If someone yells at me, trying to get me to agree
: with them, or calls me a witless moron in an attempt to change my mind,
: then chances are, I won't converse with that person anymore.
Sorry. If I, for example, run into a person who thinks Jews are inferior
and ought to be gassed to death, I will exclude them in any and all
ways possible regardless how polite they are in expressing the opinion.
This is an extreme example, of course...
doug
Springer
>ThunderFoot (ecs...@luxor.latrobe.edu.au) wrote:
>
>: Evan smiles, "In the rest of the world the words "xenophobic" and "American"
>: have become almost synonymous." He shakes his head sadly, "I would love to
>
>don't. America is broken. Hell, the whole world is broken. Militant
>conservatives can't fix it. Bleeding heart liberals can't fix it. Maybe
>it's time to let the middle-of-the-road types have a shot. Where, oh
>where are the passionate leaders of this forgot segment?"
Springer, with a Wisdom-Tooth accent:
"Walk on right side of road, Daniel-san, okay. Walk on left side
of road, okay. Walk in middle, get *squish*! just like grape."
<g>
"No, what's really wrong with America is... too much beef!"
Springer, moo.
Jamie Eimermann
>
>(D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza. P
>
(T)oppings: (S)ausage (P)epperoni (V)egetarian
Jamie, ordering out
Nathan Don Walton
:
:> Evan wonders why this is in the future tense, he smiles, "I know I'm kinda
:> out-numbered, but I haven't done any america-bashing for ages..."
Nathan wanders by, and, almost absently, wallops Evan in the back of the
head with a pillow. "Knockidoff."
Nathan, obligated to defend... But losing enthusiasm for the job
--
Nathan Don Walton, wal...@owlnet.rice.edu, Houston, Texas
Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you
can find a rock. -Will Rogers
Emma Wilson
> "When you've been the parent of a two-year-old for a while, anything that
> captures the little critter's attention long enough for you to leave the room
> and get something *done* is a good thing."
"Here, Here!" Emma, who also has a terrible two year old, agrees
enthusiastically. "My daughter Tori is currently obsessed by an
outrageous programme called _Bananas in Pyjamas_. It drives me
up the wall but is usually good for keeping her quiet for a
while!
Emma, nana in jarmies
ThunderFoot
` Nathan wanders by, and, almost absently, wallops Evan in the back of the
`head with a pillow. "Knockidoff."
Evan looks around for another pillow, "Awww... Well uf ya wanna play rough,
I... kin... shore abliage ya!"
Kamini Mehta
For me personally, it is much easier to accept a person with views different
from mine, if they are willing to accept me. Somebody who is intolerant
of other beliefs/religions/ways of life/etc. is not somebody I want to be
around. Luckily, I think that such people are the minority. It's just a few
people who give others of their 'group' a bad name. Take myself for example.
I'm a Hindu, living in the midwest bible belt. Here at Purdue, it is not
unusual to see signs for discussions on "Hinduism and the way to Hell" or
other such topics. Despite this, the average person will at most express
curiosity about my religion. This includes people who had just asked me
to a bible study or other Christian gathering.
Kamini looks around, trying to get down off her soapbox before it gets to
high. She thinks about jumping except she is afraid of accidentally
landing on somebody...
8-)
Kam
meht...@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Doug Quarnstrom
: mwa...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (mike wasson) writes:
: >But there are lots of tolerant people in the world, so I don't think
: >it's hopeless. Surely not everyone is a hypocrite?
: "Well, they _say_ they're hypocrites, but I don't think they are, really."
Actually, I personally believe that absolutely everyone alive is
hypocritical about one thing or another. It is a consequence of being
human...
doug
Doug Quarnstrom
: [] and I had to leave the room." Harper shudders at the memory. "Forgive
: [] me!"
: "No problem... that show leaves me nauseated... Sesame Street
: is _much_ better for kids, " DJ.
I do an impression of Bob Dylan singing the Sesame Street theme.
Anyone can do it. Just give it a try...
doug
Kimberlee Titus
On 12 Jan 1995, ThunderFoot wrote:
>
> ` Nathan wanders by, and, almost absently, wallops Evan in the back of the
> `head with a pillow. "Knockidoff."
>
> Evan looks around for another pillow, "Awww... Well uf ya wanna play rough,
> I... kin... shore abliage ya!"
>
Kandace notices Evan looking for a pillow. She tosses him one,
inadvertantly hitting him in the head. She hopes that she didn't muss
his hair.
Kandace ;)
Clare Jacqueline West
> Freedom is relative, tho'. A number of my friends are from Hong Kong
> and in many cases the families are making preparations to flee, as
> though from a sinking ship, before '97. Some to Vancouver but a good
> number to here (Honolulu) or to San Francisco, Texas, or elsewhere
> in the U.S.
I have no idea how long ago this was sent, so this reply is probably
really out of date. But I guess what causes me (and maybe other people
like Evan) to think that americans have a very american-centric view
of the world are paragraphs like that last one. Yes lots of Hong Kong
nationals are escaping to Canada and the U.S. But lots of them are
escaping to other places on the Pacific Rim, like New Zealand (and
presumably Australia as well).
> (BTW, to all the Amethons: I'll be off-line for awhile, as I'm in
> the process of relocating, which also means changing net.access.
> See y'all around!)
So I guess you won't see this.
Americans, please don't take this personally, I don't blame any of you
who are a bit American-centric, its only natural. I just feel it is my
duty to point it out when it occurs so that we can all learn to live
together better.
clare
PS, I hope you all had a really good Christmas and a Happy New Year. I
haven't been near the net in weeks, so I've missed heaps.
--
cl...@cs.auckland.ac.nz OWotRFA
Thinking of Maud you forget everything else. -- hack v1.0.3
Who was that Maud person anyway? -- nethack v3.1.0
Orlando66
Emma Wilson <emm...@hpbram81.uksr.hp.com> writes:
What about Thomas the Tank engine? My brother is 2 1/2, and knows all the
words to all of the episodes. He also probably owns all of the
paraphanelia that goes along with it. Some of it is kind of funny.
Either George Carlin or Ringo Star narrate, depending on the year. I'm so
glad that he has no idea as to who Barney is.
>Emma, nana in jarmies
orlando, very big sister (but not a sorority sister :))
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~orla...@aol.com~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all her chic thinness, she had an almost breakfast-cereal air of
health, a soap and lemon cleanness, a rough pink darkening in the cheeks.
~~~~~~~~~~~Truman Capote _Breakfast_At_Tiffany's_~~~~~~~~~~
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Jamie Eimermann
Kamini Mehta <meht...@sage.cc.purdue.edu> wrote:
>
>For me personally, it is much easier to accept a person with views different
>from mine, if they are willing to accept me. Somebody who is intolerant
>of other beliefs/religions/ways of life/etc. is not somebody I want to be
>around. Luckily, I think that such people are the minority. It's just a few
>people who give others of their 'group' a bad name. Take myself for example.
>I'm a Hindu, living in the midwest bible belt. Here at Purdue, it is not
>unusual to see signs for discussions on "Hinduism and the way to Hell" or
>other such topics. Despite this, the average person will at most express
>curiosity about my religion. This includes people who had just asked me
>to a bible study or other Christian gathering.
>
"I know I'm always very curious about how other people live and what they
believe. I worked with a Jewish girl once and I asked her so many questions
about Jewish beliefs and customs that she thought I wanted to convert,"
grins Jamie. "I was an undergrad history major and I always liked the
courses where you could get down to the level of the individual instead of
studying boring things like politics."
Jamie, curious kitty
Leslie Horder
>words to all of the episodes. He also probably owns all of the
>paraphanelia that goes along with it. Some of it is kind of funny.
>Either George Carlin or Ringo Star narrate, depending on the year. I'm so
>glad that he has no idea as to who Barney is.
"orlando, I didn't know you had a brother that age! Vickie's son, Andrew,
is three and loves Thomas the Tank as well. For Christmas I made him a
puppet show with the Little Engine That Could on the front (I couldn't
handle Thomas). But anyway, for Christmas his grandmother got him a
sweatshirt that had Thomas on the front with a puff of smoke above him. No
big deal, the kid likes it. But in the puff of smoke it say "Thomas is a
cheeky, fussy engine" Or something like that. I found it amusing. It
keeps the child happy wearing Thomas stuff, and the parent gets to make a
statement too...Anyway, I liked it!"
>orlando, very big sister (but not a sorority sister :))
Leslie, thank God for that! ;)
Kimberlee Titus
On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Springer wrote:
> >"I appear, sometimes, to have a 'Love it or leave it' attitude, but I
> >don't. America is broken. Hell, the whole world is broken. Militant
> >conservatives can't fix it. Bleeding heart liberals can't fix it. Maybe
> >it's time to let the middle-of-the-road types have a shot. Where, oh
> >where are the passionate leaders of this forgot segment?"
>
> Springer, with a Wisdom-Tooth accent:
>
> "Walk on right side of road, Daniel-san, okay. Walk on left side
> of road, okay. Walk in middle, get *squish*! just like grape."
>
> <g>
>
> "No, what's really wrong with America is... too much beef!"
>
> Springer, moo.
>
>
>
Kandace, having her own theory on what is wrong with America, pipes up
for a moment. "Sorry guys. What is really wrong with America is not
enough love, affection, caring, hugs and of course, sex. If everyone would
just be peaceful and give love (and relieve a little of the sexual tension
that America seems to be hung up in) I think that it would be a much more
relaxed place." She thinks about what she just said and realizes that it
sounds like something out of the late sixties/early seventies "make love
not war" era and is slightly embarrassed at being so obviously
idealistic, but her exuse is that Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday is
Monday and she just read a Leo Buscaglia book (not that either one of the
above mentioned ever said anything about sexual tension).
Kandace, becoming more confused as her sentences get longer.
Kimberlee Titus
<text off discovering different cultures>
>
> "I know I'm always very curious about how other people live and what they
> believe. I worked with a Jewish girl once and I asked her so many questions
> about Jewish beliefs and customs that she thought I wanted to convert,"
> grins Jamie. "I was an undergrad history major and I always liked the
> courses where you could get down to the level of the individual instead of
> studying boring things like politics."
>
> Jamie, curious kitty
>
"I am exactly the same way," Kandace says. "In fact, my mother has
always teased me about it because I have dated men who were Chinese,
Cuban, Caucasian, African-American, Samoan, and Mexican. Other cultures
fascinate me, but I have always been hesitant on asking questions unless
it is someone I feel close to. That is why I have wanted to write a book
on cultures and different people's stories... a built in excuse to be
curious. Now I work in a hospital, and it constantly amazes me to hear
people's stories and things that they have gone through. One man called
me the other day and told me that his wife had stabbed him. The craziest
thing about it was that he acted so blase about it - like he was telling
me what he'd had for lunch or something. Truly fascinating."
Kandace, constantly curious kitty
(trying a little alliteration)
Kimberlee Titus
Kandace, being sappy and not wanting to believe that *absolutely
everyone* is hypocritical, asks "don't you think that if hypocrisy is a
consequence, that some humans could realize the consequence and revise
their actions before it becomes hypocrisy?"
Kandace, wondering if she just made any sense.
ThunderFoot
This totally ruins his attempt to look all westernish, but he reaches up and
catches the pillow as it goes to fall, and tries to recapture the tough look
he was directing toward Nathan.
`She hopes that she didn't muss his hair.
It would be more of a surprise if it ever managed to get unmussed...
Leslie Horder
"Was it /Love/?"
Leslie, Leo fan
Alan Flesch
>`inadvertantly hitting him in the head.
>This totally ruins his attempt to look all westernish, but he reaches up and
>catches the pillow as it goes to fall, and tries to recapture the tough look
>he was directing toward Nathan.
"Sorry, bro." Alan says, "In your current anti-American attitude, you
have forgone the right to be Western-ish for the next two days... maybe
you can try being samurai-like... that's west of you, isn't it?" ;) ;) ;)
>`She hopes that she didn't muss his hair.
>It would be more of a surprise if it ever managed to get unmussed...
Alan fetches a pitchfork to try and straighten that out...
Alan (aj)
All's fair in love, war, and mumplety-peg
Springer
>st...@starport.COM (Stephen R. Savitzky) wrote:
>
>> "When you've been the parent of a two-year-old for a while, anything that
>> captures the little critter's attention long enough for you to leave the room
>> and get something *done* is a good thing."
>
>
>"Here, Here!" Emma, who also has a terrible two year old, agrees
>enthusiastically.
Springer:
"I have to disagree. I'm not a parent yet, but I've been a big
brother since I was thirteen. The problem is that children inevitably want
to involve you in the things they like. This is much easier if it is
something intelligent and clever -- _Sesame_Street_, for instance. Hell,
practically anything by Jim Henson. Besides that, I want my kids to grow up
literate and appreciative of things which really are well-made."
Springer, who realizes this sounds snotty from a non-parent, but hopes his
diaper-changing experience makes him kind of an honorary member.
Aaron V. Humphrey
"Yeah, but what I hate the most are the people who say they're hypocrites
but really aren't. That just burns me up."
--
--Alfvaen(Web page:"http://ugweb.cs.ualberta.ca/~aaron/")
Current Album--Bill Cosby:More of The Best of
Current Book--Ray Bradbury:The Martian Chronicles
Song In My Head--Tom Petty:You Don't Know How It Feels
Aaron V. Humphrey
>In article <3f1hdd$2...@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca> aa...@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca writes:
>>mwa...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (mike wasson) writes:
>>
>>"Sounds like something else from _Generations_," Alfvaen says. Someone in
>>the back of the coffeehouse groans. "No, really. They predict that, as
>>the Baby Boomers rise to power, various ideological groups will be fighting
>>it out. In the States, the major ones seem to be the Religious Right and
>>the PC Brigade. Personally, I'd go for the lesser of two evils anytime."
>Springer:
> "Uh. Which one is that?"
"Well, the PC Brigade would like to censor anything with Politically
Incorrect stuff in it. The Religious Right would like to censor anything
with non-Christian values in it. (Yes, I'm probably oversimplifying...)
I would imagine that the former set is smaller than the latter, so, while
I'd rather not have any censorship at all, I'd prefer the smallest amount.
"But it seems that both of those groups believe that they know better than
the 'masses' what is good for them...an increasingly prevalent attitude.
(Dare I say that it's characteristic of Idealist generations?)"
--
--Alfvaen(Web page:"http://ugweb.cs.ualberta.ca/~aaron/")
Current Album--Bill Cosby:More of The Best of
Current Book--Ray Bradbury:The Martian Chronicles
Song In My Head--Tim Finn:I Only Want To Know
ThunderFoot
`Springer:
` "Or you could combine the two, and be like Yojimbo."
`>
`>Alan (aj)
`>All's fair in love, war, and mumplety-peg
`Springer, wary of Captain Najork and his hired sportsmen.
Evan has not the slightest idea what Springer is talking about.
ThunderFoot
`position, his hand twitching near the Sealy Posteurpedic pillow at his
`hip. "Draw."
`Nathan, the one in the *white* hat (Nope. I called it first. So Nyah!)
Evan, suddenly dressed in black dragon-skin cowboy boots, full length
black leather coat, and black hat lowered over his eyes, rubs his rugged
unshaven jaw as he watches the guy just over there. Flexing his fingers
the corner of his mouth moves up into a sneer, "Ar-this coffeehouse aint
ar-big anuff for da both of us... I'm afraid you'll have ta leave..."
Suddenly one arm is behind his back and beginning to arc around to the
front carrying an old, used, flattened and dead pillow that seems sure
to hurt if it connects, as Evan leaps across the intervening distance,
keeping his head low, while aiming the pillow at Nathan's.
And now for an appropriate message from our sponsor...
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`Never insult seven men when all you're packing is a six-gun. -Zane Grey
Emma Wilson
> Besides that, I want my kids to grow up
> literate and appreciative of things which really are well-made."
>
> Springer, who realizes this sounds snotty from a non-parent, but hopes his
> diaper-changing experience makes him kind of an honorary member.
>
"I remember those golden days of my pregnancy when I fondly imagined
how my child would grow up watching only educational television,
reading the classics and playing with toys which are firmly non-sexist.
"The sad reality is that any television which keeps Tori quiet is a
good thing. The only books she's interested in are Topsy & Tim and
Thomas the Tank Engine and her bedroom is littered with toys which
would get me excommunicated as a feminist." Emma sighs and then
grins when she remembers that she's not a feminist anyway!
Emma, my little pony...
Emma Wilson
>
> What about Thomas the Tank engine? My brother is 2 1/2, and knows all the
> words to all of the episodes. He also probably owns all of the
> paraphanelia that goes along with it. Some of it is kind of funny.
> Either George Carlin or Ringo Star narrate, depending on the year. I'm so
> glad that he has no idea as to who Barney is.
>
> orlando, very big sister (but not a sorority sister :))
"Yes, Tori is a TtTE fan also" Emma rolls her eyes in pretend
irritation, "I don't have a clue who Barney is though. Perhaps
he isn't popular over here yet. Most of the kids seem to be
into _Power Rangers_ at the moment."
Emma, not a sorority brother
Doug Quarnstrom
: I still haven't seen Springer's post so I'll respond to Harper's reply.
: RCM...@delphi.com writes:
: > [snip]
: > Clare:
: > > >Americans, please don't take this personally, I don't blame any of you
: > > >who are a bit American-centric, its only natural.
: > > Springer:
: > > "Yeah, that's true. It's only natural WHEN YOU COME
: > >FROM THE GREATEST FUCKING COUNTRY ON THE PLANET!!!"
: Clare reels back a bit from the suddenly loud sound of Springer's
: shout in what had been a relatively civilised conversation. "You're
: entitled to your opinion, is it ok if I don't agree?"
I really think that Springer was being ironic here. Wasn't he?
: > "Ummmm... Springer? I'm all for patriotism, but is that the best
: > thing you could find to say about our native land? That its denizens
: > have a certain aptitude for--" Harper blushes. "Ahh... never mind.
: > Sorry."
: "Hey, I'm all for patriotism too. I naturally think New Zealand is
: the best place to live. All I really was saying was that people need
: to remember that the rest of the world exists and it is not, and
: doesn't even strive to be, like their home country in all it's
: glory. This isn't a trend I have found among any people other than
: Americans"
Patriotism, in and of itself, is neither vice nor virtue...
: > Springer:
: > > "Uh. Sorry. But we aren't really American-centric. Really."
: > > He looks around to disbelieving looks.
: > > "Well, maybe a little."
: > Clare:
: > > > I just feel it is my
: > > >duty to point it out when it occurs so that we can all learn to live
: > > >together better.
: > > "Oh yeah. That. Huh-huh."
: > > Springer, nationalistic menace.
: Hey be nationalistic, doesn't don't forget the rest of us, and don't
: come to beleive that Americans are somehow better because they come
: from America. (That after all is pretty much racism.)
No it isn't, it's nationalism. Racism would be Americans thinking they
are superior because their genes are better.
doug
Alan Flesch
>`have forgone the right to be Western-ish for the next two days... maybe
>`you can try being samurai-like... that's west of you, isn't it?" ;) ;) ;)
>Evan raises his eyebrow at Alan, "Excuse me, I do believe you are trying to
>use logic against me again... It just doesn't work like that. I do what I
>want, and if I need an excuse I'll make one up...
"Score one for the Sophist." Alan says, grinning.
Hmmm... Howabout attempting
>to look westernish as a satirical glimpse at the clownish idealism of westerns
>which are pro-american propoganda attempting to retroactively propogate the
>idea that america was built by really cool guys who, though not perfect,
>basically did the right thing most of the time?"
"It didn't happen that way." Alan's bubble just burst.
>As an afterthought he adds, "I don't know enough about the samurai, and it's
>probably just more propaganda..."
"Not that too! Next thing you'll tell me is that all you Oz-people aren't
anything like Paul Hogan!" Alan's little world is positively crumbling.
>`>`She hopes that she didn't muss his hair.
>`>It would be more of a surprise if it ever managed to get unmussed...
>`Alan fetches a pitchfork to try and straighten that out...
>Evan smirks, "Well, that should be easy... Aint never seen a bent pitchfork
>before..."
"Oh. Uhm, yeah! Boy! didn't I do a good job of straightening that pitchfork!"
Alan attempts to appear normal in the collapse of his entire world-view.
>`All's fair in love, war, and mumplety-peg
>"Rubbish."
"Okay, 'All's fair in love, war, mumplety-peg, and rubbish.'" Alan amends.
Alan (aj)
absolute center of all creation
:)
Alan Flesch
"Why do I think Evan wouldn't be the one calling the white hat, anyway?"
Alan asks.
Alan (aj)
who always liked grey anyway...
Jamie Eimermann
Emma Wilson <emm...@hpbram81.uksr.hp.com> wrote:
>
>"I remember those golden days of my pregnancy when I fondly imagined
>how my child would grow up watching only educational television,
>reading the classics and playing with toys which are firmly non-sexist.
>
>"The sad reality is that any television which keeps Tori quiet is a
>good thing. The only books she's interested in are Topsy & Tim and
>Thomas the Tank Engine and her bedroom is littered with toys which
>would get me excommunicated as a feminist." Emma sighs and then
>grins when she remembers that she's not a feminist anyway!
>
"Emma, you live in the UK don't you?" inquires Jamie. "Maybe you can
tell me -- what *is* a Wendy house? I've seen it written of as the
ultimate in sexist toys for little girls but we don't have them here."
Jamie, inquiring minds want to know
Clare Jacqueline West
> >Hey be nationalistic, doesn't don't forget the rest of us, and don't
> >come to beleive that Americans are somehow better because they come
> >from America. (That after all is pretty much racism.)
> "Pretty much? I would say it is."
I said "pretty much" because racism is discrimination on the basis of
race whereas what I was describing was discrimination on the basis of
country of origin or residence, a subtle but important distinction in
my mind.
clare pedantically minded herself
Springer
>
>> > Besides that, I want my kids to grow up
>> > literate and appreciative of things which really are well-made."
>> >
>> > Springer
>> >
Emma:
>> "I remember those golden days of my pregnancy when I fondly imagined
>> how my child would grow up watching only educational television,
>> reading the classics and playing with toys which are firmly non-sexist.
Springer:
"Well, I did. My parents never let me watch any TV other than
PBS educational-type stuff until I was about 10, and even then they kept an
eye on me.
"I can't say I read the classics, but I read novels and non-fiction
voraciously. As for sexist toys... well, I basically liked building toys
and Star Wars toys."
>"I was looking out for the feminist police this Christmas because I
>bought my 6 year old a game called "Fantasy Wedding" or something like
>that where you travel along the board and plan your dream wedding. I
>felt a little guilty about buying it, but not enough,"
>
>Kandace, hiding behind Springer from the feminists.
"Don't hide behind me; my daughter isn't getting that stuff until
she can pay for it. And if any of you gives her nasty sexist toys," he
says warningly, "well... don't."
Springer, fiery young feminist.
Skatha
to play the theme music from "The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly" on the
piano.
----Skatha
(jepe...@students.wisc.edu)
"I dream in Technicolor!"
Surreality is your friend.
And so is Bob.
"He's no fun, he fell right over!" - The Giant Rat Of Sumatra
Seth Springer Fortin
>Clare Jacqueline West (cl...@cs.aukuni.ac.nz) wrote:
>: I still haven't seen Springer's post so I'll respond to Harper's reply.
>
>: RCM...@delphi.com writes:
>: > [snip]
>
>: > Clare:
>: > > >Americans, please don't take this personally, I don't blame any of you
>: > > >who are a bit American-centric, its only natural.
>
>: > > Springer:
>: > > "Yeah, that's true. It's only natural WHEN YOU COME
>: > >FROM THE GREATEST FUCKING COUNTRY ON THE PLANET!!!"
>
>: Clare reels back a bit from the suddenly loud sound of Springer's
>: shout in what had been a relatively civilised conversation. "You're
>: entitled to your opinion, is it ok if I don't agree?"
>
>I really think that Springer was being ironic here. Wasn't he?
>
Springer:
"Yup."
Springer, returning to his ironing.
Nathan Don Walton
:` "Are ya' a-callin' me out, varmint?" He slowly shifts into a ready
:`position, his hand twitching near the Sealy Posteurpedic pillow at his
:`hip. "Draw."
:
:`Nathan, the one in the *white* hat (Nope. I called it first. So Nyah!)
:
:Evan, suddenly dressed in black dragon-skin cowboy boots, full length
:black leather coat, and black hat lowered over his eyes, rubs his rugged
:unshaven jaw as he watches the guy just over there. Flexing his fingers
:the corner of his mouth moves up into a sneer, "Ar-this coffeehouse aint
:ar-big anuff for da both of us... I'm afraid you'll have ta leave..."
:
:Suddenly one arm is behind his back and beginning to arc around to the
:front carrying an old, used, flattened and dead pillow that seems sure
:to hurt if it connects, as Evan leaps across the intervening distance,
:keeping his head low, while aiming the pillow at Nathan's.
Nathan hesitates, for a bare moment. He glances at his hand, which
previously held a Colt .45 pillow, now arcing gracefully through
through the air, struck from his hand by a well aimed shot. "Grrrraooowww!"
he growls, as he dives to one side, following the arc of the pillow. He
hits the floor, ducking narrowly under Evans initial blow, and slides.
As he desparately reaches into the air, the airborne pillow completes
it's flight, and, as Nathan slides to a halt, lands squarely in the palm
of his waiting hand. An expression of shock, then relief crosses his
face, only to be replaced by it's previous expression of grim determination
as Nathan rolls to a kneeling crouch and wings the pillow in a low, flat
path squarely toward's Evan's chest...
<Notice how those long, run on sentences give an impression of slow-motion?>
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Emma Wilson
>
> "Emma, you live in the UK don't you?" inquires Jamie. "Maybe you can
> tell me -- what *is* a Wendy house? I've seen it written of as the
> ultimate in sexist toys for little girls but we don't have them here."
"A wendy house," Emma smiles at the question "is a toy plastic house.
It's normally built from plastic sheeting stretched over a frame and
has clear plastic windows which normally have flower boxes and/or
wooden shutters painted on it. My daughter got one for her last
birthday and she *loves* it.
"Is it just a UK thing? I thought they were everywhere. Although
obviously not at Springer's house." :-)
Emma
Seth Springer Fortin
>sj...@ellis.uchicago.edu (Seth "Springer" Fortin) writes:
>
>> Springer:
>
>> "No, no, Clare. You've missed the point. Americans are better than
>> everybody else because they *came to* America, which is the greatest country
>> in the world. It just shows our intelligence and good taste."
>
>As a citizen of a former colony what an I meant to say to that?
Springer:
"Ummm. 'We know what you mean'? Hey, maybe New Zealand is the
*second* greatest country in the whole world. Yeah, that could be. Of course,
I don't know, because I'm never going to leave the US of A."
>
>> Springer, who hopes people realize this is tongue-in-cheek.
"Which goes for the above as well. I'm just trying to see how
awful I can make this."
>
>"Well, I do now you mention it. While it seemed likely before I
>couldn't count on it.....you never know what mad ideas perfectly
>rational people can suddenly get in their brains."
"Hmmm. Yeah. Although they usually have a rational framework, within
which, everything they say makes perfect sense."
Springer, whose rational framework is currently hanging in the Louvre.
Odum1
Defense Intelligence Agency reporting various warnings he had received
from
extraterrestrials concerning an assassination attempt on President Bush,
earthquakes in Kansas City, and intruders in the Pentagon."
Corder v. Kansas Bd. of Healing Arts, 883 P.2d 1152, 1158 (Kan. 1994)."
Cool. That was the day I turned 21. Got drunk'n everything.
John, over the hill and tumbling down the other side
Mike or Robin Hilp
>
>> Besides that, I want my kids to grow up
>> literate and appreciative of things which really are well-made."
Robin chuckles. "My older son learned about well-made vs
poorly made through personal experience. I think it only
took a couple of well-advertised but shoddily constructed
toys to make him cautious!"
>"I remember those golden days of my pregnancy when I fondly imagined
>how my child would grow up watching only educational television,
>reading the classics and playing with toys which are firmly non-sexist.
Robin isn't as impressed as she once was by the "non-sexist"
label. War toys -- from weapons to video games -- judging by
the nearly equal numbers of girls and boys playing, seem to
be the non-sexist toys of choice these days. Indeed, in the
video games, the difference between male and female characters
is often insignificant.
Then again, it seems a hopeful sign that there are both girls and
boys in Chris' chess club :-)
Robin Hilp
RCM...@delphi.com
[snip]
> "A wendy house," Emma smiles at the question "is a toy plastic house.
> It's normally built from plastic sheeting stretched over a frame and
> has clear plastic windows which normally have flower boxes and/or
> wooden shutters painted on it. My daughter got one for her last
> birthday and she *loves* it.
> "Is it just a UK thing? I thought they were everywhere. Although
> obviously not at Springer's house." :-)
"Oh, we have those here," Harper assures her. "We just call them play
houses. I've seen the kind you describe, but some are made of rigid
plastic, or heavy-duty cardboard, or even wood (though the latter
usually go outside in the yard..."
> Emma
Harper rcm...@delphi.com
"Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
Rainbow V 1.11 for Delphi - Registered
Alan Flesch
>the right and his body collapses to the ground, being caught at the last
>moment on his forearm, as the pillow skims right past his head, knocking
>his hat to the ground behind.
Alan, alert to his brother's every need, realizes that Evan is in
danger, and moves to help him.
Noting Evan's weaponlessness, Alan tosses him a duck. "Quack", says
the duck.
Alan (aj)
hedgehog Villa
Clare Jacqueline West
> In article <3fuv2p$n...@net.auckland.ac.nz>,
> cl...@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Clare Jacqueline West) writes:
> >sj...@ellis.uchicago.edu (Seth "Springer" Fortin) writes:
> >> "But Clare, that attitude is what has enabled us to dominate small
> >> countries and force our views on everybody else. Don't you think that's a
> >> worthwhile thing?"
> >"No."
> >> He grins. "Can you say 'domino effect'?"
> >"domino effect", clare waits for enlightenment to strike, "hmmmm, what
> >do you mean?"
> Daniel R. Reitman, Attorney to Be, takes a box of dominoes, stands
> them in a row, and tips them over. "The domino theory was an
> argument for intervention in Vietnam. In essence, the hypothesis
> was that if Vietnam 'fell', the rest of southeast Asia would
> follow."
"Ahhhhhh, I see. I wasn't really sure what dominoes had to do with
dominating small countries. Now I understand"
clare
Jenny K
> > tell me -- what *is* a Wendy house? I've seen it written of as the
> > ultimate in sexist toys for little girls but we don't have them here."
>
> "A wendy house," Emma smiles at the question "is a toy plastic house.
> It's normally built from plastic sheeting stretched over a frame and
> has clear plastic windows which normally have flower boxes and/or
> wooden shutters painted on it. My daughter got one for her last
> birthday and she *loves* it.
Jenny adds a little to Emma's explanation. "Not a toy house like a
doll's house ... big enough for a child (or a few children) to play
pretend games inside, but too small for adults to intrude easily."
--
Jenny K
daniel r. reitman, attorney to be
wal...@owlnet.rice.edu (Nathan Don Walton) writes:
>Nathan, "I shot the Sheriff..."
Daniel R. Reitman, Attorney to Be, pricks up his ears. "Piglet, I think I have
a client for you."
Dan, ad nauseam
RCM...@delphi.com
[snip]
> Cool. That was the day I turned 21. Got drunk'n everything.
> John, over the hill and tumbling down the other side
Harper looks skeptically at John. "Since when is twenty-six over the
hill?" she inquires. "Forty, I believe is the classic age, and
those who were influenced by the 1960s may chose thirty instead, but
twenty-six?!?" She looks around the room. "Would any of the... ah...
more mature Amethons like to comment on this?"
Harper, 36 and still climbing :)
ThunderFoot
`lobbed his only one at Evan. He pauses momentarily, huffing.
`"Waitaminute. Wait... a... minute!" He straightens, and mops the sweat
`from his high forehead with the sleeve of his shirt. "This is...
`PHYSICAL EXERTION! Nonononono. That'll never do." He wanders over to
`a nearby couch and collapses into it. Little bits of fluff blow out from
`overstresses seams. "Okay.... <Huff, huff>... You win." He doffs his
`vaunted white hat to the individual behind the couch, and tosses it
`neatly on a nearby coathook. "I'm... <huff>... Way too old for this.
`Someone else can... <huff>... Be the sheriff. I <huf> quit!"
`He reaches a hand over the couch, and says "Truce?"
Evan frowns and sighs, "Oh, I suppose so..." He says petulantly reaching up
to shake Nathan's hand.
`"What were we fighting about, anyway?"
"We were fighting?"
RCM...@delphi.com
>> "Do you mean the ones in the low-cut dresses, with lots of frilly,
>> lace-edged petticoats that show when they dance? Sure, I'd love
>> to! Can I have a green dress? We redheads look good in green,
>> you know." Harper looks around. "Who's gonna be the honky-tonk
>> piano player?"
> Jess waves wildly from her place at the piano, "Me me me me me!!" then
> starts playing a rowdy version of _The_Entertainer_.
With a sudden flash of panic, Harper realizes that she doesn't know how
to dance. She drifts over to the counter, her long skirts swishing, and
stands there, concentrating on smiling and looking sassy.
> ----Skatha, not quite this good in RL, but who cares?
> (jepe...@students.wisc.edu)
> "I dream in Technicolor!"
> Surreality is your friend.
> And so is Bob.
> "He's no fun, he fell right over!" - The Giant Rat Of Sumatra
Harper rcm...@delphi.com
James Jennings
: > Cool. That was the day I turned 21. Got drunk'n everything.
: > John, over the hill and tumbling down the other side
:
: Harper looks skeptically at John. "Since when is twenty-six over the
: hill?" she inquires. "Forty, I believe is the classic age, and
: those who were influenced by the 1960s may chose thirty instead, but
: twenty-six?!?" She looks around the room. "Would any of the... ah...
: more mature Amethons like to comment on this?"
:
: Harper, 36 and still climbing :)
I've had some of the best years of my life since I turned 26.
Unfortunately, some of the worst, too.
James Jennings (jen...@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
36 and proud of it.
What hill? I didn't see any hill!
Claudia Marie
Claudia grins devilishly.
"If you can't see the hill, that's generally because you're too close
to it to tell... so. Are you climbing it or already atop it?"
Claudia, almost 25, just caught sight of it
--
"I don't know why I can't think of anything I would rather do
Than be wasting my time on mountains with you." -- Chess
barbara trumpinski
>>: > Cool. That was the day I turned 21. Got drunk'n everything.
>>: > John, over the hill and tumbling down the other side
>>: Harper looks skeptically at John. "Since when is twenty-six over the
>>: hill?" she inquires. "Forty, I believe is the classic age, and
>>: those who were influenced by the 1960s may chose thirty instead, but
>>: twenty-six?!?" She looks around the room. "Would any of the... ah...
>>: more mature Amethons like to comment on this?"
>>: Harper, 36 and still climbing :)
>>I've had some of the best years of my life since I turned 26.
>>Unfortunately, some of the worst, too.
>>James Jennings (jen...@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
>>36 and proud of it.
>"If you can't see the hill, that's generally because you're too close
>to it to tell... so. Are you climbing it or already atop it?"
>Claudia, almost 25, just caught sight of it
kitten sees 40 just around the corner (next month in fact). "and i am
delighted.... like a fine wine, as i get older Life(tm) gets better."
--
kit...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
/\ /\ smotu "my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"
{=.=} 'i was walking through the broken glass last night
~ and thought of you...' c schmidt
Odum1
>>>>: > John, over the hill and tumbling down the other side
>>>: Harper looks skeptically at John. "Since when is twenty-six over
the
>>>: hill?" she inquires. "Forty, I believe is the classic age, and
>>>: those who were influenced by the 1960s may chose thirty instead,
but
>>>: twenty-six?!?" She looks around the room. "Would any of the...
ah...
>>>: more mature Amethons like to comment on this?"
>>>: Harper, 36 and still climbing :)
>>I've had some of the best years of my life since I turned 26.
>>Unfortunately, some of the worst, too.
>>James Jennings (jen...@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
>>36 and proud of it.
>>"If you can't see the hill, that's generally because you're too close
>>to it to tell... so. Are you climbing it or already atop it?"
>>Claudia, almost 25, just caught sight of it
>kitten sees 40 just around the corner (next month in fact). "and i am
>delighted.... like a fine wine, as i get older Life(tm) gets better."
John reconsiders. "Okay, maybe I just found a valley (or maybe some of us
just have foothills)"
"Anyone for a non-alcoholic mint julep?"
- John, still tumblin down sumthin- but with drink in hand.
Rkrein
about what it will be like to be thirty soon replies. I intend to stay
awake until I turn thirty so I can see if anything changes. In my face. I
mean, this seems so *significant*. Maybe this will be the year that I
finaaly feel grown up and not like I am playing some home version of
"house".
RCM...@delphi.com
"Well, I'll be 37 week after next, and I *still* don't feel grown-up,"
Harper comments. "But... are you sure that you want to?"
Sam Voeller
: Rkrein, the man grimly looking in to the dregs of his cup and thinking
"Nope. Not if you're expecting the magic number to do it for
you." Says Sam, from the oh-so-aged perspective of 31. :)
"I gotta run - I'm meeting some guys for a 6:30am ride....and
it's 5:45am now - I'm not dressed, gotta get fuel, and gotta stop in at
some 24 hour place to see if I can get film."
"But....at least it's not raining!"
--Sam
(took my shower last night so I don't have to zip around at
unholy hours of the morning with wet hair)
Odum1
"Well, I'll be 37 week after next, and I *still* don't feel grown-up,"
Harper comments. "But... are you sure that you want to?"
"Hey! My birthday's the fifteenth! When's yours? Maybe we oughta have a
party! I'll bring balloons!!"
Aquarian John
Odum1
Harper!
Nathan!
Way cool. Aquarians all.
John pulls the Epiphone out of his sock and starts playing and
singing.....
.....well, you KNOW what he starts playing and singing.
All together now........
RCM...@delphi.com
[Harper's birthday is on the 14th]
[John's birthday is on the 15th]
> Jem licking choclate from his upper lip, speaks out "pull a party
> popper for me, as my Birthday is the 13th" sitting back in his
> chair Jem almost 35 wonders what pressies he might be getting.
> Jem... Yet another Aquarian in the group.
"We definitely need a party," Harper says, searching desperately for the
funny hats. "And it's so appropriate to have it here -- Amethyst IS the
February birthday, after all."
RCM...@delphi.com
> Jem!
> Harper!
> Nathan!
> Way cool. Aquarians all.
> John pulls the Epiphone out of his sock and starts playing and
> singing.....
> All together now........
Harper obligingly begins to croon, "When the moon is in the seventh
house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars--" then stops abruptly. "Does
this really *mean* anything?" she asks the gathered Amethons. "Is
there an astrologer in the house?"
Alan Smith
> > Jem!
> > Harper!
> > Nathan!
> > Way cool. Aquarians all.
> > John pulls the Epiphone out of his sock and starts playing and
> > singing.....
> > ......well, you KNOW what he starts playing and singing.
> > All together now........
> Harper obligingly begins to croon, "When the moon is in the seventh
> house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars--" then stops abruptly. "Does
> this really *mean* anything?" she asks the gathered Amethons. "Is
> there an astrologer in the house?"
Each "house" is one of the constellations that lie along the eliptic, the
path that the moon and the sun take through the sky. If you could go out
on a sunny day and look at the stars, you would find that the sun was in the
same constellation the whole day, and it would slowly precess from day to day
to the next constellation along the line. The "Seventh house" is the seventh
constellation in the order. Start with Taurus, I think.
Jupiter alinging with mars is left as an exercise to the student.
Alan. It's the age of the gemini...
Nathan Don Walton
:Nathan Don Walton (wal...@owlnet.rice.edu) wrote:
:
:: "I turned 22 yesterday," comments Nathan. "No insights, no epiphany,
:: just an expired drivers license. And a stack of Ding-Dongs with a
:: candle in it. (Of course, I thought that was kinda funny... And Ding-Dongs
:: are the Food of the Gods!)"
:
: "HAPPY BIRTHDAY NATHAN" Sam shouts from accross the room. I
:gotta ask what you mean by 'Ding-Dong' though - my memory of those is
:that they most resemble carboard pucks, covered in wax with a light dab
:of styrofoam in the middle......
"Thanks, Sam!" responds Nathan, in a semi-bellow. "And a Ding-Dong
is the absolute pinnacle of snack-food achievement! Chocolate cake
with a wonderful cream center, covered in a layer of chocolate
coating. Okay, I'll admit a slight puck-like appearance- but that's
where the resemblance ends!"
Nathan, wiping the drool from his chin (eeew)
--
Nathan Walton, wal...@owlnet.rice.edu, http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~walton/
Did you know that 8 out of 5 schizophrenics won't admit there's a problem?
Seth Springer Fortin
Springer, dissenting:
"Couldn't we sing 'Revolution' instead?"
Springer, Aquarian without the hippie trimmings.
(Or lack of trimming, as was often the case.)
Sam Voeller
: "Couldn't we sing 'Revolution' instead?"
Sam agrees, as those lyrics are often going around in her head. :)
Seth Springer Fortin
Alan Smith <ars...@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> wrote:
>In article <3hgsh9$a...@news1.delphi.com> RCM...@delphi.com writes:
>> Harper obligingly begins to croon, "When the moon is in the seventh
>> house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars--" then stops abruptly. "Does
>> this really *mean* anything?" she asks the gathered Amethons.
>
>Each "house" is one of the constellations that lie along the eliptic, the
>path that the moon and the sun take through the sky. If you could go out
>on a sunny day and look at the stars, you would find that the sun was in the
>same constellation the whole day,
Springer:
"But since you can't actually do that, how did they figure this out?"
Springer, who was born in the seventh house on the left -- the one with the
pink mailbox.
Aaron V. Humphrey
>In article <3hhcuh$h...@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
>Alan Smith <ars...@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> wrote:
>>In article <3hgsh9$a...@news1.delphi.com> RCM...@delphi.com writes:
>>> Harper obligingly begins to croon, "When the moon is in the seventh
>>> house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars--" then stops abruptly. "Does
>>> this really *mean* anything?" she asks the gathered Amethons.
>>
>>Each "house" is one of the constellations that lie along the eliptic, the
>>path that the moon and the sun take through the sky. If you could go out
>>on a sunny day and look at the stars, you would find that the sun was in the
>>same constellation the whole day,
> "But since you can't actually do that, how did they figure this out?"
"Well, you could go into a deep well; from there you can apparently see the
stars even during the day. You could see what immediately followed and
preceded the sun, and then figure out what the sun was on top of.
"Either that, or you could see what was in the sky just before dawn/after
sunset. Or twelve hours after noon. For instance, if Cancer was at the
apex(if that's the term)at midnight, then at noon it must have
been...um...Capricorn?"
--
--Alfvaen(Web page: http://ugweb.cs.ualberta.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Cock Robin:After Here Through Midland
Current Read--Glen Cook:The Fire In His Hands
Song In My Head--The Age of Aquarius