Is Tom Vizzini too cowardly to respond to being caught lying about 3d mind...
Odious
Why can't Tom Vizzini respond to these quotes showing him contradicting his
own claims in his advertisments for 3d mind?
Has he failed to even attempt to explian this contradiction because he knows
he's caught red handed blatantly lying about the product he's trying to sell
you? Is his spam just on auto-pilot? Does he figure the people he's trying
to scam are so stupid they won't notice the lies and contradictions he makes
in his spam?
Here it is again Tom... will you keep running, or will you explain yourself?
In his most recent spam post on the 26th, Tom said in reference to the new
version of 3d mind....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP???
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:32:10 -0400
"So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
One day later, after people asked about this research, Tom said.....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Re: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP??? Yes, it was!!!
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:40:22 -0400
"Again you lose.....I never claimed there was any research in the 3D Mind."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
HellBrat
be too fucken stupid to connect the dots.
7 years of research, ,exploring brain research and other disciplines
and improvements gone into the 3D Mind and no research into the 3D
Mind model itself is two different animals but of course you have to
explain even the simplest of things to the retards. I just can't seem
to figure out how such stupid people like yourself can function from
day to day.
Can you explain that?
UnKaH Fuck off dickehad
Alan Keyes
"HellBrat" <monste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177883370....@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
: Dear Dip shit mother fucker, let me explain to you since you seem to
: be too fucken stupid to connect the dots.
Hey there dumbshit troll.
: 7 years of research, ,exploring brain research and other disciplines
: and improvements gone into the 3D Mind and no research into the 3D
: Mind model itself is two different animals but of course you have to
: explain even the simplest of things to the retards. I just can't seem
: to figure out how such stupid people like yourself can function from
: day to day.
:
: Can you explain that?
:
7 years of research? All crap.
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: > From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
: > Newsgroups:
: >
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
: > Subject: Re: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP??? Yes, it was!!!
: > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:40:22 -0400
: >
: > "Again you lose.....I never claimed there was any research in the 3D
Mind."
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Only stupid assholes took it to heart and spent money on it. As
evidenced by Tom it was all crap and he fooled everyone.
So now if you really want a true 3D mind model then go to your local MRI
and have a scan done of your brain, rhetorically speaking, since you,
shithead, cannot do this as you have no mind.
There are also 3D models on display at various institutes and museums.
Therefore 3D braintrust, "Dumb, Dumber, and Dumbest" take your troll
elsewhere and set up shop. Go to a place like alt.dumbest.dipshit.of.all
I'm sure you will find the level of knowledge there commensurate with
your skills.
:
: UnKaH Fuck off dickehad
:
:
Odious
"HellBrat" <monste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> be too fucken stupid to connect the dots.
>
> 7 years of research, ,exploring brain research and other disciplines
> and improvements gone into the 3D Mind and no research into the 3D
> Mind model itself is two different animals
Tom says there was all this research that went into the new 3d mind, people
ask about the research, and Tom says he never said there was research.
It's right there in the thread for everyone to see.
Tom Vizzini
Hi Odor,
Sorry Odor, I don't spend my life on the Usenet. I have one.
Either you a complete idiot or you cannot make a simple distinction between
personal research between myself and research that " has been done"
I spent years researching hypnosis, NLP, Qi Gong, Chinese medicine, and many
other self improvement systems. Some of them got interesting results and
others did not work at all.
So we developed the 3D Mind. Over the past 7 years we have continued to make
the model even better. We have been researching neuroscience and met an
amazing guy, Dr. Ken Guiffre. Ken explained exactly why and how the 3D Mind
was getting results. With his help we have refined the process into what I
think is the most powerful, easiest to understand and easiest to use
technique for personal change.
It is based on the physical changes that happen in the brain when we have
things like phobias, shyness or just lack of motivation. The 3D Mind does
not use any concept of the unconscious mind at all. That is the biggest
difference. We do not rely on any hypnotic technique at all to make a
change. That means you have one less thing to learn in order to get
verifiable results.
See if you could stretch your mind to understand the difference between my
researching and developing something and research being done "on" something.
As someone that has never created anything, I would not expect you to really
be able to grasp this concept. You just don't have the experience. Frankly I
think the concept of creativity and research are beyond your intellect. You
have to do research to create these kinds of things. You do more research in
order to improve them. We have done 7 years more.
Now read this again:
"So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
Anyone with even the smallest bit of intelligence could not have misread
this as claiming that 7 years of research has been done on the 3D Mind by
someone other than myself. If Ford stated that after 7 years of research
that they came up with a better car, would you ask "WHO" did the research?
Of course not. It would be obvious that it was Ford. Anyone with even
average intelligence would be able to understand that.
It seems that in your search for ways to flame you simply grasped at straws.
Hey, I know you have an agenda. I know that you will dig through this post
and find 3 words that you can argue with. That does not bother me a bit.
One thing does stand out. You have yet to be able to attack the 3D mind
process itself.
That is because the process gets results.
So, there is your answer. If you need further clarification on your
comprehension of simple sentences, please feel free to ask.
As much as you think you are important for me to respond to, you're not. If
you actually ask an intelligent question maybe I will see it. Most likely it
would be lost in a sea of flames and misread half sentences.
Have fun
Tom
--
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
Gold Members Area
3D Mind
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
news:FN7Zh.257642$JN6.1...@newsfe17.phx...
Speeding
> It seems that in your search for ways to flame you simply grasped at
> straws.
This is news to you? Hell.. be glad they are grasping at straws from your
posts. They have to make up straws (strawman arguments) on some of mine.
Such as trying to claim cost of access is the same as free access.
> Hey, I know you have an agenda. I know that you will dig through this
> post and find 3 words that you can argue with. That does not bother me
> a bit.
But of course they do. Money and profit. That's why many of the
arugments, strawman or not, center on or get around to... profit. There
can be only one advertiser permitted, by them, on ASF. All others are
ruthlessly hunted, hounded, and attacked.
Now, as you know, I've already vocalized that I think your product is
mental snake oil. I think it's a joke. I think it's no different than
people that believe in the use of magnetic therapy, hot rocks, or
hundreds of other scams. But, that's my personal opinion. It's not a
scientitfc fact and others are free (or do they have to be a subscriber?)
to form their own opinion. And, of course, a few use a form handle to
supply them with a membership-approved opinion.
But, your scam is not making them money. Perhaps you should consider
trying to affiliate with their special one-site-to-rule-them-all
marketing effort. Then you could advertise non-stop, for them of course,
and you'd be welcomed and defended with open arms.
--
You could be a Cylon and not even know it...
Odious
"Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote in message
news:JZednf_QA6knbajb...@adelphia.com...
>
> Hi Odor,
>
> Sorry Odor, I don't spend my life on the Usenet.
Just enough time to spam...
>I have one.
>
> Either you a complete idiot or you cannot make a simple distinction
> between
> personal research between myself and research that " has been done"
>
> I spent years researching hypnosis, NLP, Qi Gong, Chinese medicine, and
> many
> other self improvement systems. Some of them got interesting results and
> others did not work at all.
>
> So we developed the 3D Mind. Over the past 7 years we have continued to
> make
> the model even better. We have been researching neuroscience and met an
> amazing guy, Dr. Ken Guiffre. Ken explained exactly why and how the 3D
> Mind
> was getting results.
Well gosh, that sure sounds like research into 3d mind to me... having a
neuro-scientist telling you how and why 3d mind works.
So why the sudden 180, claiming there was no such research into the 3d mind?
> With his help we have refined the process into what I
> think is the most powerful, easiest to understand and easiest to use
> technique for personal change.
>
What you think....
> It is based on the physical changes that happen in the brain when we have
> things like phobias, shyness or just lack of motivation. The 3D Mind does
> not use any concept of the unconscious mind at all. That is the biggest
> difference. We do not rely on any hypnotic technique at all to make a
> change. That means you have one less thing to learn in order to get
> verifiable results.
>
> See if you could stretch your mind to understand the difference between
> my
> researching and developing something and research being done "on"
> something.
Your statements above clearly indicate that both have taken place...
reasearch into related subjects and research on the effectivness of 3d mind.
"We have been researching neuroscience and met an amazing guy, Dr. Ken
Guiffre. Ken explained exactly why and how the 3D Mind was getting results."
> As someone that has never created anything, I would not expect you to
> really
> be able to grasp this concept. You just don't have the experience. Frankly
> I
> think the concept of creativity and research are beyond your intellect.
> You
> have to do research to create these kinds of things. You do more research
> in
> order to improve them. We have done 7 years more.
>
As someone trying to sell a highly questionably product with no real factual
or demonsterable proof to support your over the top claims made in your
spam, I would expect you to dodge an lie like any snake oil saleman.
Frankly i think the concept of honesty is beyond your greed and ego. And
yet again you again claim to have doen all this reseach aimed at improving
the functionality of 3d mind, then you claim none of that research was done
on the functionality of the 3d mind? Which would be like a car company
doing years of research to improve a car, yet never actualy looking at teh
car they were supposed to be improving upon.
> Now read this again:
>
> "So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
> Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
>
> Anyone with even the smallest bit of intelligence could not have misread
> this as claiming that 7 years of research has been done on the 3D Mind by
> someone other than myself.
"We have been researching neuroscience and met an amazing guy, Dr. Ken
Guiffre. Ken explained exactly why and how the 3D Mind was getting results."
Is Dr. Ken somehow an extention of yourself, and not a seperate person?
>If Ford stated that after 7 years of research
> that they came up with a better car, would you ask "WHO" did the research?
No, I'd ask about the research, as was done in the previously cited
thread,,, and then if ford responded saying they never said there was any
research done on the car they claimed to make better... they'd look as
foolish and dishonest as you do right now.
Tom Vizzini
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
>
>
> Your statements above clearly indicate that both have taken place...
> reasearch into related subjects and research on the effectivness of 3d
mind.
LOL! Sorry Odor....learn to read. When you have a good question I will be
more than happy to answer. If you can't understand even the simplest of
sentences then it is going to be very hard to communicate with you.
At this point this is like trying to explain what a DVD player is to a
caveman. You just don't have the intellectual capacity to read much less
understand what is written.
If I were to look at your posts I would have to assume that you are a very
loney guy who has nothing else better to do that flame. It makes you feel
important. Well...your not.
Laughing at you.. now...
Hey, both of you can tell me to mind (no pun intended) my own
beeswax, but since I too have doubted this thing, and been attacked
by all but one of ya over, I'll chime in, and take the heat....ready..?
>Hi Odor,
>
>Sorry Odor, I don't spend my life on the Usenet. I have one.
Great, insults like that make you look like a scam/loser..very 'hellbratish'...
..so let's all drop that now. Othrwise everybody just looks lame...
>Either you a complete idiot or you cannot make a simple distinction between
>personal research between myself and research that " has been done"
research is research, if you do it, pay some one to do it, have 'retarded elves'
do it, it's "..research." Now look at the below comment YOU (Tom) Made..
>I spent years researching hypnosis, NLP, Qi Gong, Chinese medicine, and many
>other self improvement systems. Some of them got interesting results and
>others did not work at all.
*YOU* claim to of researched this thing. Good n or bad. Research is research.
>So we developed the 3D Mind. Over the past 7 years we have continued to make
>the model even better. We have been researching neuroscience and met an
>amazing guy, Dr. Ken Guiffre. Ken explained exactly why and how the 3D Mind
>was getting results. With his help we have refined the process into what I
>think is the most powerful, easiest to understand and easiest to use
>technique for personal change.
YOU keep using the word 'research', now you use the word "..we.."...
AND..you CLEARLY state in your posts "..no research.."
HOW is the world to believe you when you then say none was done.?
>It is based on the physical changes that happen in the brain when we have
>things like phobias, shyness or just lack of motivation. The 3D Mind does
>not use any concept of the unconscious mind at all. That is the biggest
>difference. We do not rely on any hypnotic technique at all to make a
>change. That means you have one less thing to learn in order to get
>verifiable results.
Kool, but it still does not explain YOUR comments at all..
...it sounds like "..believe it, I say so, or you suck.."
>See if you could stretch your mind to understand the difference between my
>researching and developing something and research being done "on" something.
..now you are just using words to back up your posts...lame, very lame..
RESEARCH is RESEARCH. I don't care if "..retarded elves.." did it...
>As someone that has never created anything, I would not expect you to really
>be able to grasp this concept. You just don't have the experience. Frankly I
>think the concept of creativity and research are beyond your intellect. You
>have to do research to create these kinds of things. You do more research in
>order to improve them. We have done 7 years more.
As someone who holds 3 patents, and have designed items that have sold MANY
more then your's, I can see that YOU just said "WE" have done research.
You can try to spin that all ya want, but you keep stepping in ya own mistakes..
>Now read this again:
...ok...
> "So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
>Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
That means, 'someone' did research, and implies the 1st 3Dmind sucked
so bad, this 'new improved' one is "..infinitely.." better then the old 'suck'.
Is that why it's "..double the price.."
>Anyone with even the smallest bit of intelligence could not have misread
>this as claiming that 7 years of research has been done on the 3D Mind by
>someone other than myself. If Ford stated that after 7 years of research
>that they came up with a better car, would you ask "WHO" did the research?
I'd guess, someone connected with FoMoCo... Research is research...
>Of course not. It would be obvious that it was Ford. Anyone with even
>average intelligence would be able to understand that.
BUT..you said NO research was done. Why can't YOU get that point?
>It seems that in your search for ways to flame you simply grasped at straws.
no, I for one am just reading YOUR OWN WORDS posted ......
>Hey, I know you have an agenda. I know that you will dig through this post
>and find 3 words that you can argue with. That does not bother me a bit.
*I* have no agenda, and I can see the sleet for the snow. YOU just do not
want to deal with what you said. If that doesn't bother you, kool...
>One thing does stand out. You have yet to be able to attack the 3D mind
>process itself.
Till gnr did a better job then you or ya lackey 'hellbrat' explaining it, no
one had any idea WHAT 3D Mind even was. Now that I have a slight clue,
I say, if it works for folks, kool..hope you sell every CD/DVD U can burn..
>That is because the process gets results.
So *YOU* say...or that idiot 'hellbrat' and his "..retarded elves.."
Do you really think HE is a good ad for your product?
>So, there is your answer. If you need further clarification on your
>comprehension of simple sentences, please feel free to ask.
You have explained nothing but more spam ad, gnr did a better job..
>As much as you think you are important for me to respond to, you're not. If
>you actually ask an intelligent question maybe I will see it. Most likely it
>would be lost in a sea of flames and misread half sentences.
..so..you will respond to ONLY those you want to, and hide in the sand otherwise?
No wonder folks laugh at your product, and 'hellbrat's comments...
JJTj
Tom Vizzini
"Laughing at you..now..." <up yers.con> wrote in message
news:k15c331trvrbc0ha4...@4ax.com...
>
>
> Hey, both of you can tell me to mind (no pun intended) my own
> beeswax, but since I too have doubted this thing, and been attacked
> by all but one of ya over, I'll chime in, and take the heat....ready..?
One suggestion...learn....to....read.
Research on the 3D mind is different that researching and devloping the 3D
Mind.
if you can't understand that one concept it is not surprising that you don't
understand the rest of it.
Laughing at you.. now...
>One suggestion...learn....to....read.
>Research on the 3D mind is different that researching and devloping the 3D
>Mind.
One suggestion for you... read what you just posted..
HOW can you R and D something without R ?
YOU said...
>Research on the 3D mind..
THEN you say:
>..is different that researching and devloping the 3D Mind.
HOW is one research different then another..?
Or do you ignore R #1 when you R the second?
>if you can't understand that one concept it is not surprising that you don't
>understand the rest of it.
*IF* that is what you base things on, I'm damn happy I
don't "..understand.." it. Guess I don't need it. I seem to
understand well. I for one understand that you are just
trying very hard to twist things to make them fit your needs,
but YOU fail to grasp that. Guess that hurts sales...the truth..
Hey, pimp ya stuff all ya want, then go hide yer head
in the sand when people catch ya posting a lie. IF that
(and 'hellbrat') is all 3D Mind has going for them, no
wonder ya pimping it on usenet. What's next, a 900# hotline,
maybe text msg scams? You refuse to see reality..
>Have fun
Always do, always have..without 3D Mind scams...
I suggest ANYONE foolish enough to believe this pitch
REALLY 'research' things before they buy ver at
double the price, since (as Tom says) the 1st version
isn't any good. Got an upgrade for the rubes/suckers who
fell for the 1st scam pimp spam? Or are those who think
they NEED this crap so stupid they will be suckered again?
-----------------------------------------------------
Seems I forgot the next verse..
oh well, I guess it pays to rehearse..
the lyric sheet's so hard to find..
what are the words, oh nevermind...
Weird Al
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Laughing at you.. now...
>As someone trying to sell a highly questionably product with no real factual
>or demonsterable proof to support your over the top claims made in your
>spam, I would expect you to dodge an lie like any snake oil saleman.
Sure sounds like that to me. Then 'hellbrat' comes in to attack anyone
who has doubts about what is being pimped. Lame old Carney moves..
>Frankly i think the concept of honesty is beyond your greed and ego. And
>yet again you again claim to have doen all this reseach aimed at improving
>the functionality of 3d mind, then you claim none of that research was done
>on the functionality of the 3d mind? Which would be like a car company
>doing years of research to improve a car, yet never actualy looking at teh
>car they were supposed to be improving upon.
..yet he still doesn't understand that at all..or doesn't want to..
>> Now read this again:
>>
>> "So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
>> Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
Guess the 1st one sucked. 7years of research, he now says never happened?
>Is Dr. Ken somehow an extention of yourself, and not a seperate person?
>>If Ford stated that after 7 years of research
>> that they came up with a better car, would you ask "WHO" did the research?
>No, I'd ask about the research, as was done in the previously cited
>thread,,, and then if ford responded saying they never said there was any
>research done on the car they claimed to make better... they'd look as
>foolish and dishonest as you do right now.
Watch it, 'hellbrat' will sick his "..retarded elves.." on ya..
So far, except for gnr's brief post about it, this sounds like
one big bullshit scam that has not been able to past the
shit test. ANYONE who would buy this without doing REAL
research is a fool..and I got some 3D swampland for them..
...at double the price of the OLD swampland...
JJTj
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
> things like phobias, shyness or just lack of motivation.
The 3D Mind does
> not use any concept of the unconscious mind at all. That is the biggest
> difference. We do not rely on any hypnotic technique at all to make a
> change. That means you have one less thing to learn in order to get
> verifiable results.
Why not publish these amazing findings in a medical journal?
--
Ray Gordon, Author
Price And Probability (The Value Handicapper's Bible)
http://www.cybersheet.com/horsepix.html
Would someone PLEASE become Ashlee Schull's new #1 fan? She deserves
better.
Laughing at you.. now...
>Why not publish these amazing findings in a medical journal?
Hey, when Gordon is right, I'll be the 1st to say so...
...as rare as that happens...
JJTj
Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA
Message-ID : <JZednf_QA6knbajb...@adelphia.com>
My complements, a very professional and polite response
A refreshing change from the rude and abusive posts one can now expect from
the usenet scum that have invaded the .sci Ng's
regards
--
Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA
*I* care
Alan Keyes
"Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote in message
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:
: As much as you think you are important for me to respond to, you're
not.:
: Tom
:
Yet you responded anyway. Make up your mind loser and top poster.
: --
: Real Skills for the Real Virtual World
: www.essenial-skills.com
: Gold Members Area
: 3D Mind
: Dumb, Dumber, Dumbest, true 3D
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Alan Keyes
"Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA" <.@.> wrote in message
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:The rude and abusive posts one can now expect from
: the usenet scum that have invaded the .sci Ng's
:
: regards
: Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA
: *I* stare
:
Yes, you certainly fit that billing. btw you are not the first aid boi,
and certainly not the last.
Me Myself
Here he is again, Hellbrat demonstrates the results of 3-D Mind at its
most effective.
I
HellBrat <monste...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1177883370....@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>> ychotherapy Subject: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP???
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:32:10 -0400
>>
>> "So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new
>> 3-D Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> One day later, after people asked about this research, Tom said.....
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
>> Newsgroups:
>>
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.ps
>> ychotherapy Subject: Re: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP??? Yes, it
Card XII
"Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA" <.@.> wrote in message
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Like you? Yep.
Suck another egg, lathe legs.
card xii
Odious
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:iTnZh.259026$JN6.1...@newsfe17.phx...
>>
>
>>
>> Your statements above clearly indicate that both have taken place...
>> reasearch into related subjects and research on the effectivness of 3d
> mind.
>
> LOL! Sorry Odor....learn to read.
You continue to evade any specific answers... by cutting the quoted material
then attacking me. You've yet to refute one single point I've raised.
You claimed there was research done on several related areas, for 7 years,
and that this research was used to improve the new version of 3d mind....
"So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
You also said... "You have to do research to create these kinds of things.
You do more research in order to improve them. We have done 7 years more."
Yet you also claim....
"I never claimed there was any research in the 3D Mind."
>When you have a good question I will be
> more than happy to answer.
No, you won't. You'll continue to do exactly what you are doing now... cut,
insult, and evade.
You can not run from your own words... anybody who reads your posts has seen
you repeatedly attempting to add credibility to the 3d mind by saying it is
the result of years of research... you associate 3d mind with scientists or
doctors, and yet when called out to cite some of this research you claim
makes the new 3d mind so much better, you whine that you never there was any
resarch in the 3d mind.
>If you can't understand even the simplest of
> sentences then it is going to be very hard to communicate with you.
>
> At this point this is like trying to explain what a DVD player is to a
> caveman. You just don't have the intellectual capacity to read much less
> understand what is written.
>
> If I were to look at your posts I would have to assume that you are a very
> loney guy who has nothing else better to do that flame. It makes you feel
> important. Well...your not.
>
> Have fun
>
Your personal attacks did not, in any way, address this contradictions and
inconsistencies in your statements.
If there is such a clear and obvious distinction, then it should be very
easy for you to point it out... certainly it should take less effort than 3
paragraphs of personal attacks.
It should be very simple for you to reconsile your words...
"You have to do research to create these kinds of things. You do more
research in order to improve them. We have done 7 years more."
"I never claimed there was any research in the 3D Mind."
Odious
>
> "Laughing at you..now..." <up yers.con> wrote in message
> news:k15c331trvrbc0ha4...@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> Hey, both of you can tell me to mind (no pun intended) my own
>> beeswax, but since I too have doubted this thing, and been attacked
>> by all but one of ya over, I'll chime in, and take the heat....ready..?
>
> One suggestion...learn....to....read.
>
> Research on the 3D mind is different that researching and devloping the 3D
> Mind.
>
So to be crystal clear... are you saying there has been NO research done on
Odious
HAHAHA... and here's another!!!
_____________________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/2f52df41febc7470?dmode=source&hl=en
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.nlp
Subject: Re: Question about 3D Mind Rex Sikes Please answer if you can.
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:14:57 -0500
"I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7 years
of brain research."
_____________________________________________________________
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Research?...wasRe: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP??? Yes, it was!!!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:30:05 -0400
"I never stated that I worked with Johns Hokpins or Harvard. I am not sure
how you could have read that."
_____________________________________________________________
Conrad
>
> [Tom Vizzini's stuff snipped]
>
> You claimed there was research done on several related areas, for 7 years,
> and that this research was used to improve the new version of 3d mind....
> "So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
> Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
>
> You also said... "You have to do research to create these kinds of things.
> You do more research in order to improve them. We have done 7 years more."
To my mind, the real question is not around Tom's claim to have done
and not to have done research, but what kind of research he's talking
about. Going down to the public library and reading whatever books
they may have on martial arts can be "research," but it does not
garner any authority to the 3D Mind commodity.
So, what kind of research? Did he do a lot of Feng-Shui, consult with
the psychic hotline, or conduct mathematically rigorous double-blind
studies? Where is his data? Has he published anything in a peer-
reviewed venue (other than newsgroups)?
Given the degree of excellence he claims for his commodity, I would
think this would not be too high a standard.
Conrad.
gnr
something in simple sentences that will give you something to whine
and flame about. So I sincerely ask you to try to be a little more
creative.
I and many others (1112 people) on the list know that Tom worked with
Ken Guiffre who has had associations with Johns Hopkins and Harvard.
Now upon careful examination
"I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, and 7 years of
brain
research. "
even I with my non native English can see that there is some kind of a
spelling or speech recognition problem in that sentence.
If I were to write a sentence saying I have been working with Dr. Ken
Guiffre and 7 years of research, you would have told me to write in
English which you have done so in another thread.
Yet when it is time to attack you just cant help but use senseless
stuff dont you :) This addiction of yours will just harm yourself in
the future. Take my word, it will ... if its not already. For me
though you represent fun when I have time to waste at my hands , so
keep at it as long as you like :)
So , what about the other one? research in the 3dmind thing ... what
about it cant you understand? I will happily clarify it for you.. In
the end I am OK that we have to help out dudes like you to earn you
back to society.
Odious
"Conrad" <conra...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178109013.4...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On May 1, 2:41 am, "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote:
>>
>> [Tom Vizzini's stuff snipped]
>>
>> You claimed there was research done on several related areas, for 7
>> years,
>> and that this research was used to improve the new version of 3d mind....
>> "So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
>> Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
>>
>> You also said... "You have to do research to create these kinds of
>> things.
>> You do more research in order to improve them. We have done 7 years
>> more."
>
>
> To my mind, the real question is not around Tom's claim to have done
> and not to have done research, but what kind of research he's talking
> about. Going down to the public library and reading whatever books
> they may have on martial arts can be "research," but it does not
> garner any authority to the 3D Mind commodity.
>
Exactly. He says he did all this research... he worked with Harvard and
Jons Hopkins etc. and yet when you ask him about the research and ask what
work he did with Harvard and Hopkins, he says he never claimed to work with
them or that there was research in 3d mind.
So it looks like either he did research into related subjects, like
neuroscience, or reviewed work done by Harvard or Hopkins on similar
subject... then decided for himself that these things were somehow part of
the 3d mind and used references to them in his promotion of 3d mind in order
to lend it some credibility.
> So, what kind of research? Did he do a lot of Feng-Shui, consult with
> the psychic hotline, or conduct mathematically rigorous double-blind
> studies? Where is his data? Has he published anything in a peer-
> reviewed venue (other than newsgroups)?
>
Bingo... I think that's the impression he is attempting to create, that 3d
mind has been researched by prestigious institutions and scientists, and
they support his claims about the 3d mind. Yet when you ask about what
research was done, he says he never claimed there was research.
> Given the degree of excellence he claims for his commodity, I would
> think this would not be too high a standard.
>
That is becoming more and more apparent.
Odious
"gnr" <guner...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178115552.0...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Odious :) You are behaving just as expected. Working hard to find
> something in simple sentences that will give you something to whine
> and flame about. So I sincerely ask you to try to be a little more
> creative.
>
> I and many others (1112 people) on the list know that Tom worked with
> Ken Guiffre who has had associations with Johns Hopkins and Harvard.
> Now upon careful examination
>
The very fact that it requires careful examination, serves to support my
point that at the very least Tom is making misleading statements, and at
worst lying outright.
> "I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, and 7 years of
> brain
> research. "
>
Or we could look at what he wrote... "I have been working with Dr. Ken
Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7 years
of brain research."
Why'd you leave out the Jons Hopkins part? Is it because it makes it clear
that what TOm did was make a list?
> even I with my non native English can see that there is some kind of a
> spelling or speech recognition problem in that sentence.
>
> If I were to write a sentence saying I have been working with Dr. Ken
> Guiffre and 7 years of research, you would have told me to write in
> English which you have done so in another thread.
>
No, actualy that would be a grammatically correct statement that he was
working with a doctor and the research..
But what he wrote was a clear and direct statement listing the things he'd
been working with.
"I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7 years
of brain research."
Are you actually trying to claim that sentence does not say that Tom has
been working with Dr. Ken and Harvard and Hopkins and the research?
> Yet when it is time to attack you just cant help but use senseless
> stuff dont you :)
I'm using direct quotes from Tom, if you consider them senseless, well
that's your problem, not mine.
> This addiction of yours will just harm yourself in
> the future. Take my word, it will ... if its not already. For me
> though you represent fun when I have time to waste at my hands , so
> keep at it as long as you like :)
>
> So , what about the other one? research in the 3dmind thing ... what
> about it cant you understand? I will happily clarify it for you.. In
> the end I am OK that we have to help out dudes like you to earn you
> back to society.
It's pretty simple... Tom says years of research went into improving the 3d
mind... when asked what research, he says he never claimed any research went
into the 3d mind.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP???
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:32:10 -0400
"So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
One day later, after people asked about this research, Tom said.....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Re: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP??? Yes, it was!!!
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:40:22 -0400
"Again you lose.....I never claimed there was any research in the 3D Mind."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tom Vizzini
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
>
>
> Or we could look at what he wrote... "I have been working with Dr. Ken
> Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7 years
> of brain research."
>
> Why'd you leave out the Jons Hopkins part? Is it because it makes it
clear
> that what TOm did was make a list?
I am sorry. I looked and cannot find the above quoted. Line anywhere. Could
you point me to the exact post? It makes no sense as written and out of
context.
Even an idiot could see that it is a malformed sentence. Maybe not any idiot
LOL! It seems like my voice recognition software might have screwed up the
sentence.
So let me clear this up.
I have been working with Dr Ken Guiffre over the past few years. He has 25
years of brain research under his belt. He was educated at Harvard and Johns
Hopkins. I have been researching and improving the 3D Mind for 7 years.
If you had just asked for simple clarification you would have saved a lot of
energy
Now anybody that cares has the clarification
Odorous will have to find something else to troll on about.
I won't answer this stupid accusation again.
Laughing at you.. now...
>Now anybody that cares has the clarification
Then take your bullshit snake oil scam and pimp it
elsewhere. YOU cannot accept that you said a certain
thing, and it was proven false. I guess that's what yer
3D Mind does for ya..you forget what you say/post.
ALL you had to do to PRETEND to be real is say U goofed..
..but then, you would need to back up the false statements..
The very fact that you need to pimp it on Usenet (where even
the porn pimps no longer go) proves your 'product' is lacking
in reality, and needs to be pimped via avenues porn pimps
vacated many moons ago. WHY not find REAL ways to sell ya stuff..?
>Odorous will have to find something else to troll on about.
well, I guess the truth of your own words hurt...
>I won't answer this stupid accusation again.
PLEASE don't..go away. You have been proven as a
snake oil pimp, can't face ya own words, and all the
rest of the world does is laugh at U and yer 'hellbrat'.
..unless you enjoy being proven as a joke...
JJTj
..now I await the fancy loser comeback from you or
yer loser co-pimp 'hellbrat'. At least gnr didn't resort
to lame ass insults. I'm amazed HE has been fooled..
I left Oklahoma drivin' in a Pontiac
Just about to lose my mind
I was goin' on to Arizona, maybe on to California
Where all the people live so fine
My baby said I was crazy, my momma called me lazy
I was goin' to show 'em all this time
'Cause you know I ain't no fool an' I don't need no more schoolin'
I was born to just walk the line
Livin' on Tulsa time
Livin' on Tulsa time
Well you know I've been through it
When I set my watch back to it
Livin' on Tulsa time
Well there I was in Hollywood wishin' I was doin' good
Talkin' on the telephone line
But they don't need me in the movies and nobody sings my songs
Guess I'm just wastin' time
Well then I got to thinkin', man I'm really sinkin'
And I really had a flash this time
I had no business leavin' and nobody would be grievin'
If I went on back to Tulsa time
Livin' on Tulsa time
Livin' on Tulsa time
Gonna set my watch back to it
Cause you know I've been through it
Livin' on Tulsa time
Card XII
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:982_h.34941$Fk2....@newsfe08.phx...
>>
>
>> Or we could look at what he wrote... "I have been working with Dr. Ken
>> Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7 years
>> of brain research."
>>
>> Why'd you leave out the Jons Hopkins part? Is it because it makes it
> clear
>> that what TOm did was make a list?
>
> I am sorry.
Damn right!
> I looked and cannot find the above quoted. Line anywhere. Could
> you point me to the exact post? It makes no sense as written and out of
> context.
>
> Even an idiot could see that it is a malformed sentence. Maybe not any
> idiot
> LOL! It seems like my voice recognition software might have screwed up the
> sentence.
That is further proof that you said it.
> So let me clear this up.
Oh, right! You're on such a roll!
> I have been working with Dr Ken Guiffre over the past few years. He has 25
> years of brain research under his belt. He was educated at Harvard and
> Johns
> Hopkins. I have been researching and improving the 3D Mind for 7 years.
"I have worked with" in the scientific world means you don't know anything.
And what in hell does HIS past education have to do with YOUR CLAIMS?
You made claims that your 3Dud has scientific evidence of efficacy. You
said it!
Now post the proof.
You have avoided it and avoided it. But you made the claim, and you
obviously were blowing smoke out of your wazoo.
> If you had just asked for simple clarification you would have saved a lot
> of
> energy
If you had shut up, never made a claim, and admitted that you are a spamming
frump, you would have saved even more energy. Liar.
> Now anybody that cares has the clarification
You haven't clarified a thing. You were supposed to prove what you said
about the efficacy of your lame-butted, spam-mongering, crap of a cd. But
you can't.
<SLAPPP!!>
> Odorous will have to find something else to troll on about.
>
> I won't answer this stupid accusation again.
You didn't answer it yet, moron.
You need some real therapy, from a real professinal with real abilities and
qualifications. Or from my real boot.
Now go away. You clutter up the internet with your vapid crap.
card xii
Hammer of Thor, May 2005
Order of the detrevnI Buckyball
Krus T. Olfard
> It seems like my voice recognition software might have screwed up the
> sentence.
>
Sheeeit, tom.
Here I have been giving you the benefit of the (great) doubt and not
posting in these threads and then you come up with the lame excuse that
your "voice recognition software might have screwed up the sentence".
That's the new version of the old "my dog ate my homework" excuse.
--
I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do
not like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send
me money.
Laughing at you.. now...
>"Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote in
>news:OeWdnZFRUYR_ZqXb...@adelphia.com:
>
>> It seems like my voice recognition software might have screwed up the
>> sentence.
One of the lamest cop-out excuses for a fuck up I ever heard..
Does your <chuckle> "..voice recognition.." software use 3D mind?
Face it, you're just a loser with no idea how to market anything..
..and you have no idea how to do damage control either..
DON'T quit ya day job..
JJTj
I've been a drag racer on LSD,
and I rode bare-assed on top of the shpinx,
I even had a gorilla on the slopes of kismet,
and man, that was fun for a while you bet but...
Bikini girls with machine guns,
Bikini girls with machine guns,
that stuff will kill ya, it's loaded with fun,
Bikini girls with machine guns
well I savored many foriegn kinds of delicacies,
intoxicated til I can't tell what the hell I could see,
had all the violence and liquor within close reach,
but all bars, pills and threeways lead me back to the beach...
...yeah...
Bikini girls with machine guns,
Bikini girls with machine guns,
that stuff will kill ya, it's loaded with fun,
Bikini girls with machine guns
now they say that virtue is it's own reward,
but when that surf comes in I'm gunna get my board,
I got my own ideas about the righteous kick,
n you can keep the reward, I'd just as soon stay sick...
Bikini girls with machine guns,
Bikini girls with machine guns,
that stuff will kill ya, it's loaded with fun,
Bikini girls with machine guns
HellBrat
ignorant.
UnKaH
On May 2, 11:12 am, "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote:
> "Conrad" <conradc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA
Message-ID : <3A8_h.7710$B25....@news01.roc.ny>
>You need some real therapy, from a real professinal with real abilities and
>qualifications
Sorry Dr*dirty*Dan, *my* professional service IS booked through to early next year
Perhaps in the interim *you* could help by offering some of *your*
real professional pants-down private bathroom hygiene lessons
--
Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA
*I* care
Odious
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:982_h.34941$Fk2....@newsfe08.phx...
>>
>
>
>>
>> Or we could look at what he wrote... "I have been working with Dr. Ken
>> Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7 years
>> of brain research."
>>
>> Why'd you leave out the Jons Hopkins part? Is it because it makes it
> clear
>> that what TOm did was make a list?
>
> I am sorry. I looked and cannot find the above quoted. Line anywhere.
> Could
> you point me to the exact post? It makes no sense as written and out of
> context.
>
Really.... took about 7 seconds to find it on google.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/2f52df41febc7470?dmode=source&hl=en
____________________________________________________________
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.nlp
Subject: Re: Question about 3D Mind Rex Sikes Please answer if you can.
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:14:57 -0500
"SluttyFox" <m...@laughingatyou.com> wrote in message
news:jw2mmjhyf8m2peu.241120041216@gso-scotty...
> > Neither. It works on the level of structure. It directly replicates the
> > physical brain function for creating problems. Then uses that model to
> > generate powerful changes.
>
>
> I take you are a neurosurgeon? Wow! Maybe you should write a paper and
> share with the doctors of the world. They still can't figure out how the
> brain works , and you did it for 70 old dollars. Most Impressive.
Here is the appearent difference between you and I. I never stopped
learning.
***I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7
years
of brain research.**** There are many aspects of the brain that they can
explain. I suggest you do at least as much research as I have and get back
to me.
--
Tom Vizzini
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
New members area
3D Mind www.essential-skills.com/3dmind.htm
_____________________________________________________________
> Even an idiot could see that it is a malformed sentence. Maybe not any
> idiot
> LOL! It seems like my voice recognition software might have screwed up the
> sentence.
>
> So let me clear this up.
>
> I have been working with Dr Ken Guiffre [over the past few years. He has
> 25
> years of brain research under his belt. He was educated at] Harvard and
> Johns
> Hopkins. I have been researching and improving the 3D Mind for 7 years.
>
> If you had just asked for simple clarification you would have saved a lot
> of
> energy
>
Wow now that is amazing.... your voice recognition software malfunctioned
and made it look as if you were trying to claim you were working with
reputable scientists and institutions. Somehow it left out all the
modifiers and qualifiers that you said to make it clear that you had not
been working with them and your product gained no credibility though any
association with them or endorsement by them.
Not only did this miraculously perfect malfunction occur, somehow the
essential skills master did not notice that in public statements promoting
his products, there were huge errors with the voice recognition that were
altering his claims about the product and who he was working with. He never
checked or proof read any of these promotions of his product?
> Now anybody that cares has the clarification
>
> Odorous will have to find something else to troll on about.
>
LOL! First you lie and claim you never wrote it... now you claim that the
voice recognition software somehow randomly cut out all the necessary words
to make it look as if you were claiming that you were working with Harvard
and Hopkins.
Wow!
> I won't answer this stupid accusation again.
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/2f52df41febc7470?dmode=source&hl=en
Odious
"Krus T. Olfard" <bra...@odor.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9924A34E3...@68.142.88.120...
> "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote in
> news:OeWdnZFRUYR_ZqXb...@adelphia.com:
>
>> It seems like my voice recognition software might have screwed up the
>> sentence.
>>
>
> Sheeeit, tom.
>
> Here I have been giving you the benefit of the (great) doubt and not
> posting in these threads and then you come up with the lame excuse that
> your "voice recognition software might have screwed up the sentence".
>
> That's the new version of the old "my dog ate my homework" excuse.
>
Yeah... and this guy wants you to pay him to teach you how to think better.
Laughing at you.. now...
>> It seems like my voice recognition software might have screwed up the
>> sentence.
>Sheeeit, tom.
>Here I have been giving you the benefit of the (great) doubt and not
>posting in these threads and then you come up with the lame excuse that
>your "voice recognition software might have screwed up the sentence".
That says alot about 3D Mind since the guy who pimps it not only
runs his ads by "..voice recognition software.." which, at best is only
70% reliable, but he doesn't proof-read what it produces. THEN he uses
about the lamest excuse I've heard online in years to make up for his goof.
>That's the new version of the old "my dog ate my homework" excuse.
..that just about sums it up... No 'teacher' would take that line..
What is next ? "..my iPod's battery was low.." ????? Flocking wankers..
YUP, I want that guy's snake oil telling me what my mind says...hehehehehe
Face it Tom, you goofed and it seems you have to resort to 'Bart Simpson'
excuses instead of just owning up to your mistake..or was it a mistake..?
Is that what 3D Mind does to 'help' people..?
...or does 'helljoke' speak for you. IF 'he' does, then you should
find another line of work, cause you ( & him ) are just looking stupid
with such crap. OR, maybe the world has grown too dumb that they
need such lame snake oil pimping to make them feel better..
IF that is the case, and you have a market, I can show you alot better
ways to pimp ya snake oil then this. But then I'd have to face myself in
the mirror every day, and your scamming bullshit just isn't in my cards.
*I* can deal with the mirror every day... Can U or 'helljoke'...?
or does the $$$$$$$$$$ mean more to you...?
Well, I'm off to the job. Seems my team of workers are dealing with
a SMD line that is having problems. Those workers are on the job
an hour before they clock on, just to DO THE WORK. Guess it's
'Bonus' time for them next paycheck. They know said PCBs need
to happen and do not care what it takes to make it happen.
They don't pretend to be 'superheroes' nor do they make up stupid
comic book loser names, and they were not con 'ed to get the job.
They don't use 3D Mind (we've all laughed about it) and WE are
a team producing products that earn $$$ that we all share..
...instead of making up excuses why they fuck up...
....losers need not apply...
JJTj
---------------------------------------------------
Nature's way is to take away from
those who have too much and give
it to those that have too little.
Man's way, on the contrary, is to
take away from those who have too
little to give more to those who
already have too much..
Lao Tsu, circa 490BC
---------------------------------------------------
Tom Vizzini
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
news:Y2g_h.216724$ZA5....@newsfe15.phx...
> Really.... took about 7 seconds to find it on google.
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/2f52df41febc7470?dmode
=source&hl=en
All I can say is....what the fuck? LOL!!! Please everyone go back and read
this
You found a post from November 2004? It is 2007 you idiot. How long did you
have to spend to dig up the proper typo to make a case?!?
I use Dragon Naturally Speaking voice recognition software to post because I
hate to type. I suck at it. Anyone on any of my lists knows this. They also
know that many times there are typos from this software.
It is easy to see that if you just change the period, which obviously does
not belong there, with the word "of", that the sentence makes perfect sense.
So try this moron:
Original:
I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7 years
of brain research.
Corrected:
I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre of Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7
years
of brain research.
Your level of desperation of trying to make a point is pathetic.
You lose..slam dunk.
Want to try something else loser?
LOL!!! This is comical! I can't believe it LOL! Oh my God LOL! What a moron
LOL!
Your whole complaint is a friggin typo ? Even one that is so OBVIOUSLY a
typo? Geeze who would put as period in the middle of a sentence? LOL!
Oh geeze......I have to go catch my breath......LOL
A typo is worth 7 days of flaming?
Odor.....if there was ever any doubt, it is certain that you are a complete
and desperate idiot. ....... A post from almost 3 years ago......Wow....
It only goes to prove you will see what you are looking for....if you want
to see it bad enough.
Next.......
Tom Vizzini
--
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
Tom Vizzini
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
>
>
> So to be crystal clear... are you saying there has been NO research done
on
> the functionality of the 3d mind?
Nope not one single bit of formal research. Just very good results from real
poeple who are using the skills. You know... The ones you refuse to respond
to LOL!
I never said there was.
Your an idiot.....plenty of research in that last point.
Now let me make this clear....are you saying that ONLY things that are
researched for functionality work? A yes or no answer is all I need.
Checkmate.
You are screwed no matter which answer you give.
If you answer YES then you have to stop supporting things like SS which has
never been researched.
If you answer NO then you agree that the 3D Mind can be used and is useful
without research.
Again you lose.....Do you ever get tired of being spanked?
This is just too easy
Tom Vizzini
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
>
> You continue to evade any specific answers... by cutting the quoted
material
> then attacking me.
LOL!!! You mean like going back 3 years to find a typo and cutting that
quoted material to attack me? LOL!!! What a hypocrite......
Oh geeze this is great fun.
Damn that is 3 times today that I have whipped your ass.
That is more fun than I could have hoped for this morning.
I can't wait to see how you twist your way out of this mornings posts
LOL!!!!
Ok I am done for now. You brought a knife to a gun fight loser. Next time
try using your brain....nah...don't hurt yourself
Next....
Odious
>
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:Y2g_h.216724$ZA5....@newsfe15.phx...
>
>> Really.... took about 7 seconds to find it on google.
>>
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/2f52df41febc7470?dmode
> =source&hl=en
>
> All I can say is....what the fuck? LOL!!! Please everyone go back and read
> this
>
> You found a post from November 2004? It is 2007 you idiot. How long did
> you
> have to spend to dig up the proper typo to make a case?!?
Not long at all... I simply googled your use of the term research.
> I use Dragon Naturally Speaking voice recognition software to post because
> I
> hate to type. I suck at it.
Apparently you suck at speaking as well.
> Anyone on any of my lists knows this. They also
> know that many times there are typos from this software.
>
> It is easy to see that if you just change the period, which obviously does
> not belong there, with the word "of", that the sentence makes perfect
> sense.
>
> So try this moron:
>
> Original:
> I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7
> years
> of brain research.
> Corrected:
> I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre of Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7
> years
> of brain research.
First off, Tom... watching you come up with these 6th grade level excuses is
amusing as hell.
Secondly, as you said, the context says it all. If you were only talking
about Dr. Ken and his educational background, why in the next sentence did
you refer to the group you listed as "THEY" instead of "HE"?? "There are
many aspects of the brain that they can explain." Does your voice
recognition software also change "he" to "they"?
Thirdly, even your half-assed excuse and correction make even less sense
than the original statement and in fact still makes it look at if you're
claiming you worked with Hopkins. "I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre
of Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7 years of brain research."
Not to mention that the statement still claims you did all this research in
developing the 3d mind... while you still claim that, "I never claimed there
was any research in the 3D Mind."
> Your level of desperation of trying to make a point is pathetic.
>
What's pathetic, Tom, is that you expect people to believe that somehow your
voice recognition software is changing what you say, and yet you never check
it, even when your are promoting your product.
> You lose..slam dunk.
>
> Want to try something else loser?
>
> LOL!!! This is comical! I can't believe it LOL! Oh my God LOL! What a
> moron
> LOL!
>
> Your whole complaint is a friggin typo ? Even one that is so OBVIOUSLY a
> typo? Geeze who would put as period in the middle of a sentence? LOL!
>
> Oh geeze......I have to go catch my breath......LOL
>
> A typo is worth 7 days of flaming?
>
> Odor.....if there was ever any doubt, it is certain that you are a
> complete
> and desperate idiot. ....... A post from almost 3 years ago......Wow....
>
> It only goes to prove you will see what you are looking for....if you want
> to see it bad enough.
>
> Next.......
Funny how your typos seem to create great promotions for your products,
claiming all sorts of scientific backing and credibility, purely by
accident. So was this also a typo?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP???
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:32:10 -0400
"So of course after seven years of research and improvements, the new 3-D
Mind 2007 is going to be infinitely better than the original."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
One day later, after people asked about this research, Tom said.....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups:
Odious
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:GiBZh.215222$ZA5.2...@newsfe15.phx...
>>
>> You continue to evade any specific answers... by cutting the quoted
> material
>> then attacking me.
>
> LOL!!! You mean like going back 3 years to find a typo
You claimed you NEVER wrote something... and I proved you were lying. So
then you made up another story and claimed it was a typo, however even with
your "correction", the statement still clearly shows you making the claim
that you said you never made.
Which is why you're whining about the time frame.
>and cutting that
> quoted material to attack me? LOL!!! What a hypocrite......
>
I provided a link to the entire post on google. Then I quoted the whole
post, and the context again shows you're lying about the typo, as it shows
you refereing to your list of people and institutions you claim to have
worked with, as "they." Had you been refering to a single individual and
his educational background, you'd have written "he."
Here it is again for you to see.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/2f52df41febc7470?dmode=source&hl=en
____________________________________________________________
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.nlp
Subject: Re: Question about 3D Mind Rex Sikes Please answer if you can.
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:14:57 -0500
"SluttyFox" <m...@laughingatyou.com> wrote in message
news:jw2mmjhyf8m2peu.241120041216@gso-scotty...
> > Neither. It works on the level of structure. It directly replicates the
> > physical brain function for creating problems. Then uses that model to
> > generate powerful changes.
>
>
> I take you are a neurosurgeon? Wow! Maybe you should write a paper and
> share with the doctors of the world. They still can't figure out how the
> brain works , and you did it for 70 old dollars. Most Impressive.
Here is the appearent difference between you and I. I never stopped
learning.
***I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7
years
of brain research.**** There are many aspects of the brain that they can
explain. I suggest you do at least as much research as I have and get back
to me.
--
Tom Vizzini
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
New members area
3D Mind www.essential-skills.com/3dmind.htm
_____________________________________________________________
> Oh geeze this is great fun.
>
> Damn that is 3 times today that I have whipped your ass.
>
> That is more fun than I could have hoped for this morning.
>
Are you familiar with overcompensation, Tom?
> I can't wait to see how you twist your way out of this mornings posts
> LOL!!!!
>
> Ok I am done for now. You brought a knife to a gun fight loser.
Yeah but you just keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Tom Vizzini
LOL!!!! This was the best you could do?
Moron...you are twisting in the wind. All you have are sentences cut out of
context to try and make your points.
The only reason I am responding is to see what weak excuse you come up with
next for you moronic claims.
Geeze.. a 3 year old typo is all you have.....pathetic
I can't wait to see your highly intellectual responses to my other posts
today LOL!
Lets face facts. Odor, anyone who looks into you posting history will
obviously find someone with the minimum of brain power and the maximum of
dysfunction. Please point us to one post that you have made that was not a
flame
--
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
Gold Members Area
3D Mind
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
news:73n_h.219119$ZA5....@newsfe15.phx...
Tom Vizzini
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
>
> You claimed you NEVER wrote something... and I proved you were lying. So
> then you made up another story and claimed it was a typo, however even
with
> your "correction", the statement still clearly shows you making the claim
> that you said you never made.
Oh my....my side is hurting from laughing.....
>
> Which is why you're whining about the time frame.
>
> >and cutting that
> > quoted material to attack me? LOL!!! What a hypocrite......
> >
>
> I provided a link to the entire post on google. Then I quoted the whole
> post, and the context again shows you're lying about the typo, as it shows
> you refereing to your list of people and institutions you claim to have
> worked with, as "they." Had you been refering to a single individual and
> his educational background, you'd have written "he."
LOL!!!! You have to be kidding LOL!!!
Look moron...face it...you just had your ass handed to you. Now you are
twisting your claims and adding in more information to try to make some
sense out of your accusations.
You had to go back 3 years to find a typo to try and make a case. You took
it out of context of a long thread to try and make a point. You failed.
Run along little boy....people with brains are working here. I don't want
you to get hurt..LOL!!
Don't you get tired of looking stupid......?
Thanks for the laughs this morning.
Oh my oh my...
You lose again...
--
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
Card XII
"Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA" <.@.> wrote in message
Card XII
"Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA" <.@.> wrote in message
news:1230654...@news.bumsport.net...
> --
>
> Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA
> *I* care
You gotta loosen the straps on your feedbag, moron. Gets your tongue all
wrapped up.
card xii
Card XII
You just proved his argument, PitBrain, and you are too stupid to know it.
You are moving quickly into the realm of spankable kooks.
But you are still avoiding the issue: You made a claim of product efficacy,
on a sci.* list to boot. So POST THE PROOF, MORON.
card xii
Card XII
>
> LOL!!!! This was the best you could do?
<SLAPPPP!>
I told you to answer the questions, fool! <SSLLAAPPPPPPPTT!!>
You apparently think people are stupid. You must, if you believe that
anybody in the world buys your crappy product or your crappier excuses.
Recognize what people are telling you: Visiweenie is a fool!
Burn your modem, loser.
card xii
Card XII
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:goBZh.215246$ZA5....@newsfe15.phx...
>>
>>
>> So to be crystal clear... are you saying there has been NO research done
> on
>> the functionality of the 3d mind?
>
> Nope not one single bit of formal research. Just very good results from
> real
> poeple who are using the skills. You know... The ones you refuse to
> respond
> to LOL!
>
> I never said there was.
Liar. You did so. And you claimed to have been a participant.
"Word of mouth" reports is not evidence. You said you had evidence.
I don't think you even have a customer, loser.
You are one of the most pathetic narcissists I have even seen. Like all
narcissists, you distort your perceptions to match your beliefs regarding
yourself, because you have no reat accomplishments.
Whoot! Keep it up, moron!
card xii
Card XII
...
You have earned this:
PLONK!
card xii
Tom Vizzini
lol!!! Please stop.....You guys are killing me this morning....I haven't
laughed this much in a while.
> You just proved his argument, PitBrain, and you are too stupid to know it.
>
> You are moving quickly into the realm of spankable kooks.
>
> But you are still avoiding the issue: You made a claim of product
efficacy,
> on a sci.* list to boot. So POST THE PROOF, MORON.
LOL!!! geeze....You want proof? Great. You only want one kind of proof....to
bad.
I can't give you peer reviewed research because there isn't any. On the
other hand...anyone who knows anything about peer reviewd research knows
that it is all about grants. Are you shocked LOL!
Yes dear it is all about the money.
What I do have is tons of success stories from real poeple in the real
world. I know that is not good enough for you but it is good enough for me.
Of course we could defer to peer reviewed research. You know the kind of
research that said margarine was better for us than butter BUT was wrong.
Of course then coffe was bad but THEN....not so much. This is the same
science than cannot agree on global warming or if Pluto is a planet.
I think I will stick with direct feedback from poeple using the 3D Mind over
some internut moron who knows nothing of the process.
have fun
Next....
--
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
Gold Members Area
3D Mind
>
> card xii
>
>
Me Myself
from Dec 2006
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/essential-skills/message/32011
And I quote:
"
......
Original posting snipped
......
Any placebo can be as effect or even more effective
than the 3-D Mind when done properly.
...........
rest of original posting snipped
...................."
Speaks for itself I guess
Nice one tim, AKA uncle tim, hellbrat, unka, unka uooka puffa, hooka
puffa, monsterbrat etc etc etc
I
"Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote in
news:lfmdnWEdZ5mZcaTb...@adelphia.com:
Tom Vizzini
LOL!!!! Oh my.....you have to stop.....too...much....fun...!!!!
"Me Myself" <memy...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9925AD0171...@66.150.105.230...
> Even Tim reckons that placebo can be more effective that your wares
>
>
>
> from Dec 2006
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/essential-skills/message/32011
>
>
> And I quote:
>
> "
> ......
> Original posting snipped
> ......
>
> Any placebo can be as effect or even more effective
> than the 3-D Mind when done properly.
Ok moron try this one on......the last part of the sentence.."when done
properly" not 'always'.
Then try this...'can be'..not 'is'.
The placebo effect is very powerful. It should never be discounted.
The difference is that if it was going to work it would work with the FIRST
thing someone tries. It the 3D Mind works and it is the 5th thing someone
tries then the placebo effect cannot really be a factor.
The 3D Mind is rarely the first thing someone has tried. The reason I can
say that is because it is so new that it is not well known AND so many
people get results after things like NLP and psychotherapy have failed.
Next.....
Feel free to try again.....you lose this round :)
Damn I am having an ass kicking morning LOL!
An Old Friend
"Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote:
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:m9n_h.219138$ZA5.1...@newsfe15.phx...
>
>
> >
> > You claimed you NEVER wrote something... and I proved you were
> > lying. So then you made up another story and claimed it was a
> > typo, however even with your "correction", the statement still
> > clearly shows you making the claim that you said you never made.
>
> Oh my....my side is hurting from laughing.....
This "50-foot tall guy laughing at the little kid" imagery isn't working.
Unless you're Goliath and Odious is David.
You clearly lied in your promotion of your product, Tom.
It's one thing to engage in puffery, but it's another thing altogether
to claim that scientific research was done and then deny that the
research was done.
I know of one other person who did that in this newsgroup. Gordon Roy
Parker. Of course, Parker denied the research by saying he destroyed it
all immediately after he wrote his book.
Perhaps Harvard destroyed all its research after you released your
product. <snicker>
Tom Vizzini
LOL!!!! another sucka!
"An Old Friend" <an....@friend.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:an.old-DD7993....@news.isp.giganews.com...
>
>
> This "50-foot tall guy laughing at the little kid" imagery isn't working.
>
> Unless you're Goliath and Odious is David.
>
> You clearly lied in your promotion of your product, Tom.
It not that you an idiot....it is just that you aren't that bright. A 3 year
old typo is not a lie.
Thanks for playing. Feel free to try again. next time bring a brain
Tom
Laughing at you.. now...
What are you going to blame your next lie on?
"..my 'hellbrat' made reality all go poo-poo.." ?
You've been caught in a mistake, now turned into a lie.
Try to be a man and own up to yer mistake..if you can..
Does 3D Mind help rubes lose their $$ to pimps like U
and 'hellbrat'..? What level of LOSERS do you pimp to..?
ANYBODY who buys this 3D Mind crap sold by losers like
you deserves to be taken for all the double $$ they have.
I'll pay for such a sucker list. I got swamp land on Mars for sale.
So far, nobody has found the LAST scam these idiots did where
they were not only found out, but laughed at on OTHER Usenet
groups, and chatrooms. Guess they have no idea how to SEARCH
the truth on Usenet...so easy..so nasty when the truth is found out.
Come on, Tom..tell them about ya last scam...
...have ya, <chuckle> 'hellbrat' explain it..
..or, are you still running away from THOSE rubes..?
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>
> elsewhere
Wow, JJT doesn't like yet another person that Ross doesn't like.
Just like Odiot.
--
Ray Gordon, Author
Price And Probability (The Value Handicapper's Bible)
http://www.cybersheet.com/horsepix.html
Would someone PLEASE become Ashlee Schull's new #1 fan? She deserves
better.
"When people are engaged in something they are not proud of, they do not
welcome witnesses. In fact, they come to believe the witness causes the
trouble."
-- John Steinbeck
Laughing at you.. now...
>Wow, JJT doesn't like yet another person that Ross doesn't like.
At least THEY are not child molesting hate mongers, who pretend
to be women as they want to kill themselves over their "..inexcusable failures.."
Parker, it has nothing to do with 'Ross' (whom I think is a joke), so don't
try to butt into ANOTHER's reality as you jerk off to ya faggot dollies..
Are you waiting for Aug....when I come by and go "..boo.."
As lame as TV and 'hellbrat' are, they are in NO WAY as low as
the asswipe you are..the coward you are..the "..I/Failure.." you are.
They are just pimps...you are a child molester..a coward...
JJTj
** You admitted (see below) you ".wished."
** a child would die, JUST to get revenge on
** her mother for her crime of ".loving you."
SO, the question is, Mr. Gordon Roy Parker:
".how old was Michelle's daughter Cierra
when you "wished" she would die, and if
your "wish" could come true, what would
you "wish" to happen to her.. ?????? ."
...Usenet records seem to note her age at 6 or 7...
..again..PLEASE..for the record... Tell us all..
Does this refresh your memory, Mr. Parker..?
>>Path: news.alt.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news
>>Cc: cave...@nni.com
>>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:58:08 -0400
>>Subject: Ray Takes FULL RESPONSIBLITY For The Michelle Mistake
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>>WARNING: If Oedipus, Krusty or Tusky respond to this message in any way,
>>I will return to ASF immediately. If they want me off that newsgroup
>>they can stay the hell out of my threads.
>>Read up. I post this not for myself, because I don't care what people
>>think of me. I post this for my METHOD, because it's being destroyed by
>>attacks on its creator.
>>I am going to clear the record on a few things here:
>>1. I DID wish death on Michelle's daughter Cierra. I did so in an
>>attempt to snap her back to reality after she had used others' defamation
>>of me as leverage to get me to want her. Why did I "hurt" her? I DID
>>NOT TALK TO HER. That's correct: my crime with Michelle was not falling
>>back in love with her after she had fallen in love with me for four
>>months, IMing me constantly, E-mailing me constantly, BEGGING me to love
>>her the way I "loved" "Dominique" (these two are in quotes because I
>>neither loved her nor necessarily knew her).
>>2. Wishing death on someone is not a crime. The words were spoken in
>>anger, after MONTHS of provocation
Main Entry: mo·lest
Pronunciation: m&-'lest
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French molester, from
Latin molestare, from molestus burdensome, annoying; akin to
Latin moles mass
1 : to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile
intent or injurious effect
2 : to make annoying sexual advances to; especially : to
force physical and usually sexual contact on
- mo·les·ta·tion /"mO-"les-'tA-sh&n, "mä-, -l&s-/ noun
- mo·lest·er /m&-'les-t&r/ noun
An Old Friend
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> >>Now anybody that cares has the clarification
> >
> > Then take your bullshit snake oil scam and pimp it elsewhere
>
> Wow, JJT doesn't like yet another person that Ross doesn't like.
>
> Just like Odiot.
And your logical point?
Are you trying to use the logic that would indicate that because you
also don't like Ross, that you must also not like Tom, just like JJT
and Odious?
Or do you agree, approve and endorse Tom's product, methods and
marketing?
Either you don't approve of Tom's product, methods and marketing, just
like Odious, or you approve of Tom's product, methods, and marketing.
So which is it?
Laughing at you.. now...
>To think that your life has come to this point, Tom. At this point in
>time, I think more highly of Ray than I do of you.
wow..someone thinks you are lower then a hate mooning child molesting
"..inexcusable failure.." like Gordon Roy "..i was jesus.." Parker...
What does that make you..or 'hellbrat'...???
Still have nothing to say, TV, about your LAST scam...?
...guess you are afraid of the 3D mold involved...
..Maybe the rubes you screwed over want to have a few words...
JJTj
I've been a drag racer on LSD,
and I rode bare-assed on top of the shpinx,
I even had a gorilla on the slopes of kismet,
and man, that was fun for a while you bet but...
Bikini girls with machine guns,
Bikini girls with machine guns,
that stuff will kill ya, it's loaded with fun,
Bikini girls with machine guns
well I savored many foriegn kinds of delicacies,
intoxicated til I can't tell what the hell I could see,
had all the violence and liquor within close reach,
but all bars, pills and threeways lead me back to the beach...
...yeah...
Bikini girls with machine guns,
Bikini girls with machine guns,
that stuff will kill ya, it's loaded with fun,
Bikini girls with machine guns
now they say that virtue is it's own reward,
but when that surf comes in I'm gunna get my board,
I got my own ideas about the righteous kick,
n you can keep the reward, I'd just as soon stay sick...
Bikini girls with machine guns,
Bikini girls with machine guns,
that stuff will kill ya, it's loaded with fun,
Bikini girls with machine guns
Krus T. Olfard
>
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:Y2g_h.216724$ZA5....@newsfe15.phx...
>
>> Really.... took about 7 seconds to find it on google.
>>
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/2f52df41febc7470?
> dmode =source&hl=en
And another 'the dog ate my homework' excuse.
At one time I thought you were better than this, tom.
--
I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do
not like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send
me money.
Krus T. Olfard
> On the
> other hand...anyone who knows anything about peer reviewd research
knows
> that it is all about grants.
Actually, tom, peer reviewed research is all about credibility.
Why do you continue to make these lame excuses while not actually even
answering the main questions you are asked?
Your credibility here is quickly sinking to the level of the gordy
loser's credibility.
That is what comes from making claims without providing verifiable
evidence of the truth of those claims and whining whenever anyone asks
you for that verifiable evidence.
Speeding
eoz206fbnZ2d...@pghconnect.com:
>>>Now anybody that cares has the clarification
>>
>> Then take your bullshit snake oil scam and pimp it
>> elsewhere
>
> Wow, JJT doesn't like yet another person that Ross doesn't like.
Now now, Ray-ray... surely you aren't suggesting that he has some sort of
agenda to support one and only ane advertiser. That his motives are more
business/work/profit related than they are for other reasons.
> Just like Odiot.
You mean the guy that used to be Ross' spokesman until a better deal came
along? Hey, give him credit... at least he's honoring whatever agreement he
had... and doesn't seem to be directly competing against Ross now. It's
hard to buy that kind of loyalty. Or is it?
--
You could be a Cylon and not even know it...
Laughing at you.. now...
>eoz206fbnZ2d...@pghconnect.com:
>> Wow, JJT doesn't like yet another person that Ross doesn't like.
>Now now, Ray-ray... surely you aren't suggesting that he has some sort of
>agenda to support one and only ane advertiser. That his motives are more
>business/work/profit related than they are for other reasons.
Anyone with half a brain and the ability to do a NetSearch will find
that I have *NEVER* supported anything from anyone, have no 'agenda'
other then to cripple grp-ie's child molesting, herpes infested arse in
a court or in an alley, due to his threats to me, my loved ones, family, etc.
'Ross' can go hang for all I care. Tom V can too. I call them as I see them.
Parker just fears me, as I tell the truth..and can back it up..
Tom is just a joke who has no cred at all in any way shape +/or form.
>You mean the guy that used to be Ross' spokesman until a better deal came
>along? Hey, give him credit... at least he's honoring whatever agreement he
>had... and doesn't seem to be directly competing against Ross now. It's
>hard to buy that kind of loyalty. Or is it?
That means nothing to me, but at least the guy has proven over many years to
back up what he says, doesn't resort to BS, and has more backbone then grp-ie,
TV, and 'hellbrat' combined. I don't agree with everything he says, but he's real.
JJTj
-----------------------------------------------------
Seems I forgot the next verse..
oh well, I guess it pays to rehearse..
the lyric sheet's so hard to find..
what are the words, oh nevermind...
Weird Al
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Alan Keyes
:
: LOL!!!! another sucka!
:
: "An Old Friend" <an....@friend.com.invalid> wrote in message
: news:an.old-DD7993....@news.isp.giganews.com...
:
: >
: >
: > This "50-foot tall guy laughing at the little kid" imagery isn't
working.
: >
: > Unless you're Goliath and Odious is David.
: >
: > You clearly lied in your promotion of your product, Tom.
:
: It not that you an idiot....it is just that you aren't that bright. A
3 year
: old typo is not a lie.
:
: Thanks for playing. Feel free to try again. next time bring a brain
:
: Tom
:
:
: --
Yer a joke, Tom.
Odious
>
> LOL!!!! This was the best you could do?
>
> Moron...you are twisting in the wind. All you have are sentences cut out
> of
> context to try and make your points.
>
How is quoting the entire post and including a google link, quoting you out
of context?
> The only reason I am responding is to see what weak excuse you come up
> with
> next for you moronic claims.
>
> Geeze.. a 3 year old typo is all you have.....pathetic
Was this one a typo too?
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
>
> I can't wait to see your highly intellectual responses to my other posts
> today LOL!
>
> Lets face facts. Odor, anyone who looks into you posting history will
> obviously find someone with the minimum of brain power and the maximum of
> dysfunction. Please point us to one post that you have made that was not a
> flame
> --
Once again you respond with a personal attack, and no refutations of ANY of
the points I raised about your so called typo making it look as if you were
claiming to be working with Johns Hopkins or your claims that you never said
any research was done on the 3d mind.
And here's yet another quote showing you making these claims again.
So was this a typo too?
LOL!!!!
_________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
_________________________________________________
.
Odious
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:m9n_h.219138$ZA5.1...@newsfe15.phx...
>
>
>>
>> You claimed you NEVER wrote something... and I proved you were lying. So
>> then you made up another story and claimed it was a typo, however even
> with
>> your "correction", the statement still clearly shows you making the claim
>> that you said you never made.
>
> Oh my....my side is hurting from laughing.....
>
>>
>> Which is why you're whining about the time frame.
>>
>> >and cutting that
>> > quoted material to attack me? LOL!!! What a hypocrite......
>> >
>>
>> I provided a link to the entire post on google. Then I quoted the whole
>> post, and the context again shows you're lying about the typo, as it
>> shows
>> you refereing to your list of people and institutions you claim to have
>> worked with, as "they." Had you been refering to a single individual
>> and
>> his educational background, you'd have written "he."
>
> LOL!!!! You have to be kidding LOL!!!
>
> Look moron...face it...you just had your ass handed to you. Now you are
> twisting your claims and adding in more information to try to make some
> sense out of your accusations.
>
> You had to go back 3 years to find a typo to try and make a case.
I did a google search for the words... and oh look. Here's yet another
example of you making these claims.
Seems 3 years ago is when you were making these claims.... the ones you said
you never made. Or that you only made because of a typo.
So was this one a typo too?
LOL!
_________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
_________________________________________________
> You took
> it out of context of a long thread to try and make a point.
Newsflash Tom, google archives the other posts in the thread too. All the
context is there at the google link.
>You failed.
>
Obviously not, or you'd be addressing those points and negating them...
rather than trying to evade them.
> Run along little boy....people with brains are working here. I don't want
> you to get hurt..LOL!!
>
> Don't you get tired of looking stupid......?
>
> Thanks for the laughs this morning.
>
> Oh my oh my...
>
> You lose again...
>
>
Tom, you can't explain your statements, nor can you supplement insults or
claims of victory, for an argument.
Odious
>
> LOL!!!! another sucka!
>
> "An Old Friend" <an....@friend.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:an.old-DD7993....@news.isp.giganews.com...
>
>>
>>
>> This "50-foot tall guy laughing at the little kid" imagery isn't working.
>>
>> Unless you're Goliath and Odious is David.
>>
>> You clearly lied in your promotion of your product, Tom.
>
> It not that you an idiot....it is just that you aren't that bright. A 3
> year
> old typo is not a lie.
>
> Thanks for playing. Feel free to try again. next time bring a brain
>
Or another quote of you making the same claims.
Odious
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
>>
>>
>> So to be crystal clear... are you saying there has been NO research done
> on
>> the functionality of the 3d mind?
>
> Nope not one single bit of formal research. Just very good results from
> real
> poeple who are using the skills. You know... The ones you refuse to
> respond
> to LOL!
>
> I never said there was.
_________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
_________________________________________________
>
> Your an idiot.....plenty of research in that last point.
>
LOL!
> Now let me make this clear....are you saying
I am saying that you made claims about your product, then denied making
those claims.
I'm not speaking to the usefulness or lack thereof in your product.
Although, your attempt to change the subject is noted.
> that ONLY things that are
> researched for functionality work? A yes or no answer is all I need.
>
> Checkmate.
>
> You are screwed no matter which answer you give.
>
> If you answer YES then you have to stop supporting things like SS which
> has
> never been researched.
>
> If you answer NO then you agree that the 3D Mind can be used and is useful
> without research.
>
When have I said that the 3D mind can't be useful... hell even ray's garbage
is useful to a degree. Everything can be useful in one way or another.
Even pure bullshit is very useful as fertilizer.
The issue at hand is not the usefulness of the product, but rather the
claims you made about the product.
Now the real question is does your product live up to the claims you've made
about it?
Hard to say, since yet you deny making those claims... despite numerous
examples of you making the same claims over and over again.
_________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
_________________________________________________
> Again you lose.....Do you ever get tired of being spanked?
>
> This is just too easy
>
> Tom Vizzini
Tom, you're like the guy who laughs at his own joke, then when he noticed
nobody else laughing, laughs louder and more uncomfortably, then starts to
explain the punchline, and ask "ya get it?"
Odious
"Card XII" <blots...@sciencefrontiers.com> wrote in message
news:qvn_h.7902$ya1....@news02.roc.ny...
Each time he denies it... someone finds another quote of him making the same
claims.
John C. Randolph
> Hi Odor,
How very juvenile.
Well, that tells me all I need to know to dismiss this Vizzini character.
-jcr
John C. Randolph
> First off, Tom... watching you come up with these 6th grade level
> excuses is amusing as hell.
Well, he's not quite as amusing as grp can be...
-jcr
John C. Randolph
> I can't give you peer reviewed research because there isn't any.
Hey, thanks for admitting that.
Now, why should anyone buy what you're selling?
-jcr
John C. Randolph
> Look moron...face it...you just had your ass handed to you.
Funny, from where I sit, you're the one being shredded.
-jcr
HellBrat
From where you sit? and where is that? On the throne of stupidity. I
find it amusing that those monkey brained morons will scream spammer
at Tom, Yet post 10 times the number of e-mails, which all smack of
ignorance and stupidity, screaming over one small typo which is easily
explained and trying to make a felony case out of it, SPAM. Then they
continue to amount attackes no matter what Tom says, twisting his
words and stooping to the usual lies, half truths and pretty much
moronic garbage that they can only spew, YET, then wonder why I call
them names and make fun of them. I swear, I have been all over America
and have met some really retarded people, but have yet to find any,
group as stupid as this one.
I mean I can go back in time to the many many posts they have written
and point out lie after lie after lie, not to mention stupid
statements and retarded posts.
You see they don't want discussions, when Tom and I disappeared for
almost a month this group posted nothing.
Which is typically the case because they have nothing to post, except
trivial garbage.
So because they have no balls and post their garbage, writing
insulting posts disguised but most apparent, then yell at me because I
call them rat bastard mother fuckers, there is no mistaking that is
there?
I mean damn, if they suddenly quit doing all this bullshit, I'd have
to go start mowing the grass or something.
With my canon fodder gone, I'd have to quit downloading porn from the
internet and actually go do something.
They are my entertainment, not that good entertainment but at least
some, I actually wish they had someone to give me a run for my money
other than these monkey brained morons.
Discussions would be nice, debates better, but from the monkey brain
morons who frequent this NG, that simply isn't going to happen.
UnKaH
John C. Randolph
> Dear Johnny:
>
> From where you sit? and where is that? On the throne of stupidity.
Tom,
You're not fooling anyone with the sock-puppets.
-jcr
Tom Vizzini
Hi folks this is all great fun to watch.
The simple truth is this. Not a single person flaming away here can find
one negative thing to say about the 3-D Mind process. There are several
reasons for this. The biggest one is that those are screaming the loudest
not absolutely nothing about the 3-D Mind.
They would rather focus on a typo from three years ago.
I understand the reasoning. Frankly it is all they have. They are grasping
at straws to try to make some point about me personally. The hilarious way
they are doing so is by taking one sentence of posts over a period of
several years and trying to build some type of contradiction.
The truth is what we have here are little men inside of a little Internet
world trying to be big men. They have no clue what they're talking about
because they have no experience with it. It's probably not the only thing
that they have little or no experience with.
So here we have had several hundred posts making a feeble attempt to make a
mountain of mole hill. If anybody is still interested in this idiotic
thread I had a few videos that you might want to watch. They are on
YouTube. Two of them are from people who got very fast and very powerful
results from the 3-D Mind. The third one is actually a video of Dr. Ken
Guiffre.
If you guys want something to argue about why not trying to argue about
those.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVFj-nNbnXs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PrgOjEm_oA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWV_s8H_prY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfQXYWOo-hM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67ykNNelt8
See you guys and a couple days. I'm sure you can post at least 200 posts on
this topic by then :)
By the way, I already know what's coming. Somebody will say that it doesn't
matter if the 3-D Mind works are not what is really important is that,
Vizzini is asshole. The problem is I know I'm asshole I just don't care :)
By the way his post was generated by voice recognition software. Have fun
with the typos!
Have fun
Tom
Speeding
>
>
> Hi folks this is all great fun to watch.
>
> The simple truth is this. Not a single person flaming away here can
> find one negative thing to say about the 3-D Mind process. There are
> several reasons for this. The biggest one is that those are screaming
> the loudest not absolutely nothing about the 3-D Mind.
They also can't find anything positive to say either, Tom. And there are
likely reasons for that, as well. Such as typos like "The biggest one is
that those are screaming the loudest not absolutely nothing about the 3-D
Mind." That's an obvious typo. But, let's not get caught up on typos.
Tom... when will you realize... you aren't permitted to advertise on ASF.
Not until you become an affiliate. Just sell your shit through the one-
and-only-permitted advertiser. Give them their cut. Then you'll have
their attack drones fighting for you instead of against you. While it
might not be tasteful to become a drone... a robot... a cylon... it is
the smart business move.
> They would rather focus on a typo from three years ago.
But Tom... it wouldn't matter. Even if you had no typos at all... even if
you could show reams... no... 45 pounds.. of data about how your product
works. Even if Dr. Phil, Oprah, and even the Pope endorsed it as the
greatest single invention of mankind... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER. You have
to give them their cut. They'll attack anything they can.. because until
they get their cut, they have no motivation to assist you or defend you.
Even if you had flawless posts with evidence even Ray couldn't refute..
they'd just refine words like "free" or make asinine claims about how
breathing is a regulated activity.
But, once you are their affiliate... their robot... their money maker..
then they will defend and support and kind of shit you want to sell. They
will redefine words to defend you. They would fabricate testimonials for
you. They will assist you in making them money. Tom, there can be only
one advertiser allowed on ASF. Either you join the marketeers or you are
against them. Surely you know this already.
> I understand the reasoning. Frankly it is all they have. They are
> grasping at straws to try to make some point about me personally. The
> hilarious way they are doing so is by taking one sentence of posts
> over a period of several years and trying to build some type of
> contradiction.
It's not about you personally. It's not about your "product" and the lack
of any sort of credibility it lacks. It's not about typos. It's not about
credentials. It's not about results. It's not about reason, or facts, or
logic. It's about money. You are not a marketeer. Do you really expect
any support from them until you give them what they desire?
> The truth is what we have here are little men inside of a little
> Internet world trying to be big men. They have no clue what they're
> talking about because they have no experience with it. It's probably
> not the only thing that they have little or no experience with.
Tom, you could not be more wrong. They have loads of experience with what
they do. It's not about your psychobabble. Your product. It's not about
your claims. It's not about what your product can or can't do. It's about
money. You trying to make it and them trying to protect their market. How
can you expect to make any money here when you are fighting such a group
as the marketeers?
> So here we have had several hundred posts making a feeble attempt to
> make a mountain of mole hill. If anybody is still interested in this
> idiotic thread I had a few videos that you might want to watch. They
> are on YouTube. Two of them are from people who got very fast and
> very powerful results from the 3-D Mind. The third one is actually a
> video of Dr. Ken Guiffre.
Tom, volume. The marketeers understand the power of volume. Look at how,
since before 2001, they clogged up ASF and drove mass amounts of traffic
off it. They killed ASF. They even brag of it, but blame someone else.
They have to change the names to fit the times, of course, but there is
one constant. The marketeers.
They aren't making a mountain out of a molehill. It is a mountain. You
are a threat to them. They wouldn't bother attacking you otherwise. Get
your 3D mind wrapped on this concept, Tom. You are a thread to their
market. It might be minor now... but they have no intention of letting it
grow. They have business interests to protect. And you are not helping to
advance their interests, so you are against them. And that they will not
tolerate.
> If you guys want something to argue about why not trying to argue
> about those.
Tom... it's not about your claims. It's about the money. Just pay up.
Give them their cut. they don't care about videos, evidence, or anything
other than protecting their revenue stream.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVFj-nNbnXs
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PrgOjEm_oA
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWV_s8H_prY
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfQXYWOo-hM
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67ykNNelt8
>
> See you guys and a couple days. I'm sure you can post at least 200
> posts on this topic by then :)
Volume. You could learn a thing or two about marketing from them.
> By the way, I already know what's coming. Somebody will say that it
> doesn't matter if the 3-D Mind works are not what is really important
> is that, Vizzini is asshole. The problem is I know I'm asshole I just
> don't care :)
Well... you're catching on. It doesn't matter. Works or not. Bogus or
real. Fact or fraud. What matters is that you have not given them their
cut. Would you try to hazzle in on the Costra Nostra? On the Russian
Mafia? Of course not. They'd cut you to ribbons. Feed you to the fish.
You'd give them their cut. You'd be their lackie. You'd become one of
them.
Why do you expect anything different here? Give them their cut. Join the
marketeers and all your problems would be solved.
> By the way his post was generated by voice recognition software. Have
> fun with the typos!
>
> Have fun
>
> Tom
>
>
> --
> Real Skills for the Real World
> www.essential-skills.com
> Gold Members Area
> 3D Mind
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
John C. Randolph
> Hi folks this is all great fun to watch.
Yes, it is. Thanks for bringing some fresh entertainment. We all
enjoy ridiculing the ridiculous.
Tell me, did you pick up some of your schtick from L. Ron Hubbard?
-jcr
Krus T. Olfard
> Somebody will say that it doesn't
> matter if the 3-D Mind works are not what is really important is that,
> Vizzini is asshole. The problem is I know I'm asshole I just don't
> care :)
>
And apparently you, like the gordy loser, also do not care that you are a
liar.
That's sad, especially if that is what the 3d bullshit does for you.
HellBrat
wrote:
> On 05/07/07, HellBrat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> > Dear Johnny:
>
> > From where you sit? and where is that? On the throne of stupidity.
>
> Tom,
>
> You're not fooling anyone with the sock-puppets.
>
> -jcr
ahh, so now your claiming I am Tom? and this name is nothing more than
a sock puppet, which an nlp trainer was caught doing? Sorry Dude once
again your reaching for straws and once again you fall flat on your
but I guess any lies you can make up tries to prove your case, and in
your case your a fucking moron.
UnKaH HellBwat
Odious
"HellBrat" <monste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178550030....@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Dear Johnny:
>
> From where you sit? and where is that? On the throne of stupidity. I
> find it amusing that those monkey brained morons will scream spammer
> at Tom, Yet post 10 times the number of e-mails, which all smack of
> ignorance and stupidity, screaming over one small typo
Funny is this one also a typo....
_________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
_________________________________________________
>which is easily
> explained and trying to make a felony case out of it, SPAM.
So Tom crossposting and trying to sell his product, isn't spam to you... but
people responding to those post and pointing out Tom's lies is spam?
> Then they
> continue to amount attackes no matter what Tom says, twisting his
> words
How exactly is this "twisted?"
Odious
"Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote in message
news:KLudnYNtbP7Iw6Lb...@adelphia.com...
>
>
> Hi folks this is all great fun to watch.
>
> The simple truth is this. Not a single person flaming away here can find
> one negative thing to say about the 3-D Mind process.
So when you can't defend your statements, change the subject.
Nobody that I've seen is saying 3d mind is 100% ineffective... however it
would be hard to make any such determination, since you continue to lie
about the level do research into the functionality of the 3d mind.
> There are several
> reasons for this. The biggest one is that those are screaming the loudest
> not absolutely nothing about the 3-D Mind.
>
> They would rather focus on a typo from three years ago.
>
Was this also a typo?
_________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
_________________________________________________
Oops, yeah you made the claims more than once, so you can't blame it on a
one-time accidental typo.
> I understand the reasoning. Frankly it is all they have. They are
> grasping
> at straws to try to make some point about me personally.
Exactly, people have no clinical studies or peer reviewed research to look
at to make determinations about how well 3d mind works on an objective
level. So they have only your insistance that it works, and you are a
proven liar.
> The hilarious way
> they are doing so is by taking one sentence of posts over a period of
> several years and trying to build some type of contradiction.
>
Not trying to show you lied and contradicted yourself... succeeded in
showing it. And not only that, but showing that when confronted with your
own inconsistencies, you can't deal with it, you lie more, and evade...
whine that it was a typo, despite there being this quote as well.
Care to explain how this one was also a typo... or this was somehow twisted
or distorted?
_________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
_________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Subject: Re: The Answer...Re: Is Tom Vizzini too cowardly to respond to
being caught lying about 3d mind...
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 10:05:29 -0400
> So to be crystal clear... are you saying there has been NO research done
> on the functionality of the 3d mind?
Nope not one single bit of formal research. Just very good results from real
poeple who are using the skills. You know... The ones you refuse to respond
to LOL!
I never said there was.
_________________________________________________
_________________________________________________
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/2f52df41febc7470?dmode=source&hl=en
From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.nlp
Subject: Re: Question about 3D Mind Rex Sikes Please answer if you can.
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:14:57 -0500
I have been working with Dr. Ken Guiffre. Harvard, Jons Hopkins and 7
years of brain research. There are many aspects of the brain that they can
explain. I suggest you do at least as much research as I have and get back
to me.
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.psychology.nlp/msg/6f5b1a105dfa7765?dmode=source&output=gplain
Later this year we're going to be doing research on the 3-D Mind at
Johns Hopkins University research Center. We want to see how the different
processes change the map of the brain and brain accessing.
There is a lot more in-depth information in this area. Ken has just
been hired by Johns Hopkins University to do research. He will be coming
out with a book within the next year fully explaining all the
technicalities.
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From: "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.psychology,alt.psychology.nlp,alt.seduction.fast,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Research?...wasRe: Was the Original 3D Mind CRAP??? Yes, it was!!!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:30:05 -0400
"I never stated that I worked with Johns Hokpins or Harvard. I am not sure
how you could have read that."
_________________________________________________
How many times can you make the same claims, and still insist they were also
typos?
> The truth is what we have here are little men inside of a little Internet
> world trying to be big men. They have no clue what they're talking about
> because they have no experience with it. It's probably not the only thing
> that they have little or no experience with.
Having experience with 3d mind, has nothing to do with the consistency and
honesty of your statements.
And note hat when Tom can't address his own web of lies, he has to attack
the people who question him.
>
> So here we have had several hundred posts making a feeble attempt to make
> a
> mountain of mole hill. If anybody is still interested in this idiotic
> thread I had a few videos that you might want to watch. They are on
> YouTube. Two of them are from people who got very fast and very powerful
> results from the 3-D Mind. The third one is actually a video of Dr. Ken
> Guiffre.
>
Again, what's that got to do with you lying about the research done on 3d
mind?
> If you guys want something to argue about why not trying to argue about
> those.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVFj-nNbnXs
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PrgOjEm_oA
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWV_s8H_prY
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfQXYWOo-hM
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67ykNNelt8
>
> See you guys and a couple days. I'm sure you can post at least 200 posts
> on
> this topic by then :)
>
> By the way, I already know what's coming. Somebody will say that it
> doesn't
> matter if the 3-D Mind works are not what is really important is that,
> Vizzini is asshole. The problem is I know I'm asshole I just don't care
> :)
>
Nobody cares if you're an asshole Tom.... what they care about are the pile
of bullshit lies you tell to hype and sell your product.
And you are right.... the product's functionality is moot when addressing
the honesty and accuracy of your claims in your advertisements.
If I say my car gets 200mpg... and someone finds a quote where i previously
said it gets only 25mpg.... when asked about that claim I can hardly expect
to be taken seriously by arguing that that the car runs and that's all that
matters.
Tom Vizzini
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
>
> "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote in message
> news:KLudnYNtbP7Iw6Lb...@adelphia.com...
> >
> >
> > Hi folks this is all great fun to watch.
> >
> > The simple truth is this. Not a single person flaming away here can
find
> > one negative thing to say about the 3-D Mind process.
>
> So when you can't defend your statements, change the subject.
>
> Nobody that I've seen is saying 3d mind is 100% ineffective... however it
> would be hard to make any such determination, since you continue to lie
> about the level do research into the functionality of the 3d mind.
Learn...to...read....Not ONE negative thing to say about the 3D Mind....
Get it?
Funny how you can get fixated on a 3 year old typo but can't seem to
comprehend a simple sentence.
Maybe it is a penis size thing.....are you coming up short?
Then this gem:
> Nobody cares if you're an asshole Tom.... what they care about are the
pile
> of bullshit lies you tell to hype and sell your product.
A 'pile'.....One typo is now a pile? You mean like pulling up an obvious
typo and lying about it? Gee Ordorous...seems a bit desperate to me....
Get lost coward.
Laughing at you.. now...
>> Nobody that I've seen is saying 3d mind is 100% ineffective... however it
>> would be hard to make any such determination, since you continue to lie
>> about the level do research into the functionality of the 3d mind.
...nor do you..the pimp... And a lame one at that...
>Learn...to...read....Not ONE negative thing to say about the 3D Mind....
*I* say, judging from what YOU and yer sox have said, 3D Mind is a joke..
>Get it?
do you? Or do you still refuse to deal with your own lies..?
>Funny how you can get fixated on a 3 year old typo but can't seem to
>comprehend a simple sentence.
YOU are pimping it and YOU are typo'ing it..or did yer voice\reg
software eat yer reality again..? Lame excuses backed by lame pimps..
>Maybe it is a penis size thing.....are you coming up short?
..so instead of dealing with you own mistakes, you go 'hellbrat'..
...but no, said "..superhero.." is not a sock puppet.. Lame, very lame..
>Then this gem:
..unless it's a truth based on yer own posts...
>> Nobody cares if you're an asshole Tom.... what they care about are the
>pile
>> of bullshit lies you tell to hype and sell your product.
yup...
>A 'pile'.....One typo is now a pile? You mean like pulling up an obvious
>typo and lying about it? Gee Ordorous...seems a bit desperate to me....
Your pile has started from you, and yer "..superhero.." "hellbrat.."
acting like complete asswipe losers pimping YOUR product as gold...
>Get lost coward.
wow..did you say that as you wet yer pants..?..or did yer "..superhero.."
named "..hellbrat.." wet 'em while faced with the reality of your errors?
Face it, ANYONE buying said 3D Mold after reading you or yer sox posts
has much more problem(s) then yer snake oil can pimp off them, loser.
...because YOU (Tom) can't realize that you fucked up, and/or face
YOUR FEAR (judging from gnr) of fucking up yer marketing/pimp posts.
Now..please come back n post some other insulting comment that does
NOT deal with your failure to market said snake oil correctly...
..or, have ya "..superhero.." do it for ya...(hahahahahahahahahaha)
JJTj
"ooh Gooddy !! Send me
to the Twilight Zone again..."
SEND ME ! !!!!!!!
(Cheryl 'Devil Girl' Borck)
Krus T. Olfard
news:Du00i.74418$Fk2....@newsfe08.phx:
What tom has failed to realize is that he would have been better off just
posting his spam and not trying to justify it to anyone who commented.
That would have been much better than piling lies and exagerations on top
of claiming that his dog ate his homework.
Or for that matter just admitting that he fucked up and let it go.
Kinda pathetic that he can't do that.
Doesn't say much for the efficacy of his 3d bullshit.
HellBrat
supposed lie? Now what does that say for nlp?
Richard Bandler, co-founder of nlp is one of the biggest liars on the
planet.
He owned a bar when he was 16
He was a millionaire when he was 18
He was involved in a murder
He was a coke addict
he was a wife beater
he drank wife beating juice everyday ( alcoholic )
Want me to go on? I can write a huge list of the lies he's told.
So then based on that premise that if one lies then the product is no
good, then nlp must really suck, yet thousands swear by it. Hmm, how
can that be?
So then cowardly mother fucker, why haven't you screamed at bandler
for all his lies and said that nlp is bullshit because of them, well I
will tell you why, because you suck bandlers dick and you hate Tom so
your focus is on Tom, your an utterly predictable moronic monkey
brained shit head.
So tell me Odor-us, why haven't you been screaming about bandler?
UnkaH
HellBrat
actually selling comic books and skate boards via the internet from
his mom's basement, are we really supposed to take you seriously?
Come on dude, you stated you were getting a bonus check, yet you own
the company? Why would you be getting a bonus check, if you owned the
company and all the profits were yours.
Ouch, liar liar pants on fire.
Your not much more than a lying teenage geek punk with pus draining
from your huge pimples.
>
> *I* say, judging from what YOU and yer sox have said, 3D Mind is a joke..
Opps, judgement call from the geek, opinion without facts, as usual to
back anything up.
Yet one more lie from this steaming pile of shit.
>
> do you? Or do you still refuse to deal with your own lies..?
Hmm, the moronic monkey brained geek loser calling the pot black
>
>
> YOU are pimping it and YOU are typo'ing it..or did yer voice\reg
> software eat yer reality again..? Lame excuses backed by lame pimps..
Hmm, calling the pot black once again dude? I mean come on, pimping
your mother and sister to pay the rent doesn't look good on your
resume, once they get tired of your ass and kicks you to the curb.,
then your going to have to get a real job in the real world and the
safety of your basement won't protect you any more.
>
> >Maybe it is a penis size thing.....are you coming up short?
>
> ..so instead of dealing with you own mistakes, you go 'hellbrat'..
Are you suggesting we are one in the same person? Well stupid ass
mother fucker, it has been proven once before we are not, but yet this
is so typical of you and the other shitheaded morons who frequent this
place, just make shit up as you go, now how about you make a bet on
that statement, say 50,000 dollars.
Now come back with your excuses why you can't, the real reason is you
don't have it, nor 5,000 nor 500. How about a bet, put your money were
your dick breath is.
>
>
> ..unless it's a truth based on yer own posts...
Put your money where your mouth is
>
> Your pile has started from you, and yer "..superhero.." "hellbrat.."
> acting like complete asswipe losers pimping YOUR product as gold...
Can you ever get a little more creative when you write? hell I can
write your next post just about word for word, yur a boring twit.
>
>
> wow..did you say that as you wet yer pants..?..or did yer "..superhero.."
> named "..hellbrat.." wet 'em while faced with the reality of your errors?
Boring, next.
>
> Face it, ANYONE buying said 3D Mold after reading you or yer sox posts
> has much more problem(s) then yer snake oil can pimp off them, loser.
Can you once again prove that point pin head? Or you just pulling your
opinions outta your ass again?
>
> ...because YOU (Tom) can't realize that you fucked up, and/or face
> YOUR FEAR (judging from gnr) of fucking up yer marketing/pimp posts.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but the fact remains that if you
fuckers are so desperate to call him names that you have to spend a
lot of your waking hours examining his posts to spot a mistake, what
that actually says is your losers with nothing more to do than nit
pick and cum on each others face.
>
> Now..please come back n post some other insulting comment that does
> NOT deal with your failure to market said snake oil correctly...
Ok, thanks for the invite, maybe one day when you grow some hair on
your balls and turn 21, I'll buy ya a beer and introduce you to women,
with the help of the 3d Mind you can stop instantly creaming your
pants just because a woman says hi.
>
> ..or, have ya "..superhero.." do it for ya...(hahahahahahahahahaha)
Hmmm, once again the moron laughs like a dumbass at nothing, wow what
a really shitty life he must have.
UnKaH HellBwat
>
> JJTj
>
> "ooh Gooddy !! Send me
> to the Twilight Zone again..."
>
> SEND ME ! !!!!!!!
Why?, you like the prison rape gang bang movie you get shoved into?
Bring the vaseline.
>
Socky the Puppet
proclaimed to the world:
>Come on dude, you stated you were getting a bonus check, yet you own
>the company? Why would you be getting a bonus check, if you owned the
>company and all the profits were yours.
Actually you are showing your ignorance. I own a company and draw a
salary. If I want more money then I give myself a bonus. It is a
matter of running the money through the right accounts to keep your
books straight and legal. Now if you own a little business set up as a
sole proprietor or partnership, then you might run it so that all the
money the business makes runs right into your bank account, but most
don't because of books and taxes again.
This does not mean I support this guy or anything.
Alan Keyes
: On May 7, 12:10 pm, John C. Randolph <jcr.nos...@nospam.mac.com>
:
Hey, you already admitted it to me in several archived posts, so why
deny it now? You stupid ass WOP
Alan Keyes
: Hmm, so you state now that the 3D Mind is bullshit because of a
: supposed lie? Now what does that say for nlp?
: Richard Bandler, co-founder of nlp is one of the biggest liars on the
: planet.
:
: He owned a bar when he was 16
: He was a millionaire when he was 18
: He was involved in a murder
: He was a coke addict
: he was a wife beater
: he drank wife beating juice everyday ( alcoholic )
: Want me to go on? I can write a huge list of the lies he's told.
:
: So then based on that premise that if one lies then the product is no
: good, then nlp must really suck, yet thousands swear by it. Hmm, how
: can that be?
Stupidity asshole. Same people you're looking for to buy an out of date,
and 7 version old CD.
: So then cowardly mother fucker, why haven't you screamed at bandler
: for all his lies and said that nlp is bullshit because of them, well I
: will tell you why, because you suck bandlers dick and you hate Tom so
: your focus is on Tom, your an utterly predictable moronic monkey
: brained shit head.
:
: So tell me Odor-us, why haven't you been screaming about bandler?
:
:
: UnkaH
:
ROTFLOL!
So it is getting to you after all! LOL
Odious
"Speeding" <no...@biz.org> wrote in message
news:RZJ%h.279927$JN6.2...@newsfe17.phx...
> Tom Vizzini wrote in news:KLudnYNtbP7Iw6Lb...@adelphia.com:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks this is all great fun to watch.
>>
>> The simple truth is this. Not a single person flaming away here can
>> find one negative thing to say about the 3-D Mind process. There are
>> several reasons for this. The biggest one is that those are screaming
>> the loudest not absolutely nothing about the 3-D Mind.
>
> They also can't find anything positive to say either, Tom. And there are
> likely reasons for that, as well. Such as typos like "The biggest one is
> that those are screaming the loudest not absolutely nothing about the 3-D
> Mind." That's an obvious typo. But, let's not get caught up on typos.
>
> Tom... when will you realize... you aren't permitted to advertise on ASF.
> Not until you become an affiliate. Just sell your shit through the one-
> and-only-permitted advertiser.
Just as there is one and only one history and reality in ASF, that as
dictated by speeding.
Questioning claims made by someone on usenet means there is a vast marketing
conspiracy against them.... despite there being no vast market to compete
over on usenet.
But hey... don;t let reality get in the way of a good super dork fantasy.
Odious
>
> "John" <67vnue6o@knwfv> wrote in message
>> >Lets put a face to each of us and you can show everyone how much smarter
> you
>> >are than me.
>> >
>> Gosh, is it that time again already. Amazing how quickly life comes
>> round again.
>
> Yes it is familiar.....it always has the same familiar result....
You declaring victory in a transparent attempt to continue evading the
questions you do not want being asked?
>cowards can
> run their mouths but never have the balls to back up their bullshit.
Says the guy who wants to move this discussion from a public venue to his
backyard.
Somehow standing here and continuing to address these issues publicly in a
public forum, is running away from you challenge to have a webcam chat on
your website?
Is that it? This is what you do when you're standard personal attacks and
evasions don't work?
Odious
>
> "John" <67vnue6o@knwfv> wrote in message
>
>>
>> How specifically does not wanting to engage with you in an online
>> debate mean they are cowards?
>
> How specifically does it mean that they are not?
>
Notice that whenever Tom makes a claim, and somebody questions it, he never
really has an answer. He just attacks the questioner or questions their
standing to ask the question in the first place.
Unlike Tom, I have an answer... it is not cowardly to refuse to be drawn
away and directed around by the opposition, especially when doing so will
give advantages to the opposition. Tom is trying to attack my ego to get
me to come do some webcam chat he wants to present as a debate. Anybody who
has ever watched FOX news knows how that works... no matter what is said it
can be spun to suit the agenda of the guy who controls the mic.
There's no subject that can be addressed in some web chat that can't be
addressed here in this venue. So the only reason for the change of venue is
to suit Tom, which is again wholly transparent posturing maneuver on Tom's
part. Tom is just looking for something he can wave around and use as a
distraction from the points he can't refute and the questions he's evading.
Apparently this worked for him before and he was able to berate someone into
silence.
Odious
> How specifically stupid do you have to be in order make statements
> like that?
>
> Point they only want flame wars, they do not want to engage in
> discussions or debates because they will time and time again get their
> pathetic nlp ass's kicked.
Why is it that whenever 3d mind is questioned, you can only answer by
attacking nlp?
A live debate or a debate on usenet, both reach the same conclusion, that
you can not defend your position... you can onnly attack what you think is
the other side position.
> Many studies have been done on nlp and they were not favorable, yet
> the douche bags ignor the evidence, why because it fucks up their
> pathetic reality and bitch slaps their chosen gurus.
>
You keep operating under this simplistic cult mind assumption that everybody
who questions or disagrees with you, must all be the same... they must all
be NLP people and by attacking NLP or the practitioners of it, you'll
somehow hit a nerve.
It is a wasted effort on your part for two reasons. First, many of those
who are calling bullshit on Tom's claims are not NLP folks and secondly, NLP
has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Attacking NLP, even if all you
attacks were 100 percent true and accurate, wouldn't change the facts about
3d mind or Tom's claims one bit.
You claim to want to debate, but all I see is you wanting to change the
subject and change the venue.
>
> Ouch, I know you don't want to hear that, because then you'd have to
> find another guru and the dick sucking for enlightenment will have to
> begin anew.
>
Keep on flamin away.... lol!
Odious
>
> "Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
> news:PH00i.74419$Fk2....@newsfe08.phx...
>>
>> "Tom Vizzini" <T...@essential-skills.com> wrote in message
>> news:KLudnYNtbP7Iw6Lb...@adelphia.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi folks this is all great fun to watch.
>> >
>> > The simple truth is this. Not a single person flaming away here can
> find
>> > one negative thing to say about the 3-D Mind process.
>>
>> So when you can't defend your statements, change the subject.
>>
>> Nobody that I've seen is saying 3d mind is 100% ineffective... however it
>> would be hard to make any such determination, since you continue to lie
>> about the level do research into the functionality of the 3d mind.
>
> Learn...to...read....Not ONE negative thing to say about the 3D Mind....
>
> Get it?
>
What I get, and you can't seem to grasp, is that the subject at hand is NOT
positive or negitive attibutes of the 3d mind... but rather the fact you
repeatedly claim that the 3d mind is backed up by years of research, and
when pressed admit NONE of that research was actualy done on the 3d mind.
That's a pretty big negitive Tom.
Crying that the 3d mind works or that you have some testomonials, doesn;t
change the facts about your misrepresentation and outright lies in your
advertising.
> Funny how you can get fixated on a 3 year old typo but can't seem to
> comprehend a simple sentence.
>
> Maybe it is a penis size thing.....are you coming up short?
>
And you want me you come to your site for a web cam debate.... LOL!
So you can talk about my genitals?
> Then this gem:
>
>> Nobody cares if you're an asshole Tom.... what they care about are the
> pile
>> of bullshit lies you tell to hype and sell your product.
>
> A 'pile'.....One typo is now a pile?
No, Tom, the multiple quotes you deleted because you can't even deal with
having them quoted in your reply, that's a pile of bullshit lies you've
told. Which is why you have to cut them and why you want a change of venue
to a format where I can't present the quotes from you that show you lying
over and over again.
> You mean like pulling up an obvious
> typo and lying about it? Gee Ordorous...seems a bit desperate to me....
>
> Get lost coward.
>
You claim I lied about your statement... care to cite that alleged lie?
Odious
> OMG, here is the man who claimed to be the big business man but is
> actually selling comic books and skate boards via the internet from
> his mom's basement, are we really supposed to take you seriously?
>
> Come on dude, you stated you were getting a bonus check, yet you own
> the company? Why would you be getting a bonus check, if you owned the
> company and all the profits were yours.
>
Did the 3d mind school of business teach you that?
Even a business novice like myself knows that company owners give themselves
bonuses all the time as a means of additional compensation accounted for
outside of standard salary. There are tax reasons for this and bookkeeping
reasons.
You realy do know how to make yourself look the fool.
Odious
"Krus T. Olfard" <bra...@odor.com> wrote in message
news:Xns992AA4B82...@68.142.88.120...
Exactly... he just kept digging and now he's in so deep he trying to change
the venue.
> Or for that matter just admitting that he fucked up and let it go.
>
> Kinda pathetic that he can't do that.
>
> Doesn't say much for the efficacy of his 3d bullshit.
>
No, it doesn't.
Odious
> Ok I am have having a real good time with this.
>
> So here is what I will do. A LIVE ONLINE DEBATE between me an Odorpus.
>
> I have video software on my site and we have have 100 people in there. I
> will record it and put it on my site for everyone to watch.
>
> So Odorpus...time for a ball check.....got any? Willing to go face to face
> with me?
>
> Lets put a face to each of us and you can show everyone how much smarter
> you
> are than me.
>
Oh, escalation, I must really be hitting a nerve.
So what will be the topic... the level of research you claim has been done
on the 3d mind, then later deny having claimed, then claim as a typo, then
claim were plans that fell through?
You are attempting to pull this conversation into a venue that you can
control, and to change the current subject because your misrepresentation of
your product is growing more and more apparent, while your excuses grow less
and less sufficient to explain away your previous statements.
Not to mention that a live debate would pretty much rule out the biggest
thorn in your side, which is google searching your previous statements to
see how badly you're contradicting yourself in your current ones. Did you
think you were all sly and clever in attempting to play to my ego and goad
me into a change a venue that would favor you with advantages over the
current venue? Ball check... what are you 12? Has that worked on other
people who have called you on your claims?
Hell given how badly each new claim you make is making you look, and how
foolish, dishonest, and inept you become with each new excuse... I can
understand why you would want to get this exchange off usenet. This is
afterall where you do your spamming, and the carnie doesn't want some smart
ass asking questions that might chase off the rubes, right?
But no such luck for you Tom. Instead of coming to your site for your
little webcam chat... I'll simply continue doing exactly what I'm doing
now... responding to each piece of spam you post, with the questions you
don't want asked.
Laughing at you.. now...
>OMG, here is the man who claimed to be the big business man but is
>actually selling comic books and skate boards via the internet from
>his mom's basement, are we really supposed to take you seriously?
I don't know where you made that up, guess you are a pretty lame
'..superhero.." that you have to make things up. I guess they don't
make 'hellbrats' that real anymore. But keep your fantasy..
>Come on dude, you stated you were getting a bonus check, yet you own
>the company? Why would you be getting a bonus check, if you owned the
>company and all the profits were yours.
Maybe in 'hell' but I pay myself a 'bonus' like any other employee.
...and MINE is the biggest amount..
>Ouch, liar liar pants on fire.
wow..that hurt...
>Your not much more than a lying teenage geek punk with pus draining
>from your huge pimples.
..seems your 'superpower' is acting like a 3 year old...
>> *I* say, judging from what YOU and yer sox have said, 3D Mind is a joke..
>Opps, judgement call from the geek, opinion without facts, as usual to
>back anything up.
>Yet one more lie from this steaming pile of shit.
No, you as the defender of 3D Mind prove my point with your every post.
>> do you? Or do you still refuse to deal with your own lies..?
>Hmm, the moronic monkey brained geek loser calling the pot black
...again....and again...and again....
>> YOU are pimping it and YOU are typo'ing it..or did yer voice\reg
>> software eat yer reality again..? Lame excuses backed by lame pimps..
>Hmm, calling the pot black once again dude? I mean come on, pimping
>your mother and sister to pay the rent doesn't look good on your
>resume, once they get tired of your ass and kicks you to the curb.,
>then your going to have to get a real job in the real world and the
>safety of your basement won't protect you any more.
...and again...and again..and again...
>> >Maybe it is a penis size thing.....are you coming up short?
..and again. Now with weird homo-erotic fantasy requests...
>> ..so instead of dealing with you own mistakes, you go 'hellbrat'..
>Are you suggesting we are one in the same person? Well stupid ass
>mother fucker, it has been proven once before we are not, but yet this
>is so typical of you and the other shitheaded morons who frequent this
>place, just make shit up as you go, now how about you make a bet on
>that statement, say 50,000 dollars.
...and again. You are a sock for Tom, you have this 'superhero'
desire to be the court jester, while the world laughs at you..again.
>Now come back with your excuses why you can't, the real reason is you
>don't have it, nor 5,000 nor 500. How about a bet, put your money were
>your dick breath is.
AGAIN, with the homo-erotic fantasy(s). *IF* you are not Tom, then you
are his bitch, who (iv Tom had any marketing sense) would be ashamed of.
>> ..unless it's a truth based on yer own posts...
>Put your money where your mouth is
owwww... tuff 'superhero' making demands.
>> Your pile has started from you, and yer "..superhero.." "hellbrat.."
>> acting like complete asswipe losers pimping YOUR product as gold...
>Can you ever get a little more creative when you write? hell I can
>write your next post just about word for word, yur a boring twit.
Thank you, it proves I do not think you two are the same person, even Tom
isn't as lame as you are, 'hellbrat'..'superhero'. Guess I won the $$..
>> wow..did you say that as you wet yer pants..?..or did yer "..superhero.."
>> named "..hellbrat.." wet 'em while faced with the reality of your errors?
>Boring, next.
I agree, your wet pants would bore anybody, but thank you for proving I think
you and Tom are 2 separate people. Where's my money? Donate it to charity.
>> Face it, ANYONE buying said 3D Mold after reading you or yer sox posts
>> has much more problem(s) then yer snake oil can pimp off them, loser.
>Can you once again prove that point pin head? Or you just pulling your
>opinions outta your ass again?
I would think you have enough problems to explain it, oh 'superhero' 'hellbrat'.
>> ...because YOU (Tom) can't realize that you fucked up, and/or face
>> YOUR FEAR (judging from gnr) of fucking up yer marketing/pimp posts.
Notice, 'superhero', I was talking to Tom, not you..
>Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but the fact remains that if you
>fuckers are so desperate to call him names that you have to spend a
>lot of your waking hours examining his posts to spot a mistake, what
>that actually says is your losers with nothing more to do than nit
>pick and cum on each others face.
AGAIN, the fantasy(s). And you even say he made a mistake. No one
needs long to prove mistakes were made, and IF Tom had a sense of
reality, he would of stated he made said mistake, instead of excuses.
"..V/Rec software didn't work.." Laughable lame excuse.
>> Now..please come back n post some other insulting comment that does
>> NOT deal with your failure to market said snake oil correctly...
>Ok, thanks for the invite, maybe one day when you grow some hair on
>your balls and turn 21, I'll buy ya a beer and introduce you to women,
>with the help of the 3d Mind you can stop instantly creaming your
>pants just because a woman says hi.
Thank you, oh mighty 'superhero hellbrat' for again proving my point.
>> ..or, have ya "..superhero.." do it for ya...(hahahahahahahahahaha)
>Hmmm, once again the moron laughs like a dumbass at nothing, wow what
>a really shitty life he must have.
I agree, you being a 'superhero' (as YOU claimed) is nothing..
> UnKaH HellBwat
...Like I said, oh mighty 'hellbrat'....
>> "ooh Gooddy !! Send me
>> to the Twilight Zone again..."
>>
>> SEND ME ! !!!!!!!
>
>Why?, you like the prison rape gang bang movie you get shoved into?
>Bring the vaseline.
Again, you know not where said quote came from, yet resort to homo-erotic
fantasy. Just what IS your 'superpower', oh 'hellbrat'..?
...being a super loser? Must be, you are so good at it...
JJTj
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Nature's way is to take away from
those who have too much and give
it to those that have too little.
Man's way, on the contrary, is to
take away from those who have too
little to give more to those who
already have too much..
Lao Tsu, circa 490BC
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Tom Vizzini
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
>
> But no such luck for you Tom. Instead of coming to your site for your
> little webcam chat... I'll simply continue doing exactly what I'm doing
> now... responding to each piece of spam you post, with the questions you
> don't want asked.
Just as I thought....when it comes time to really back up your claims you
run like a coward.
No matter. You just showed who you really are. You failed the ball check.
So here it is folks. Odorous has been blustering on these groups for years
pretending to be somthing he is clearly not. When it comes time for him to
stand up and show the world how brilliant he is.....he runs!
LOL!!!!!!
Enough said. You lose by knock out :)