subliminal messages...

[Peter Lobley (aka - Tony Soprano)]

after being prompted by something I heard on TV (a review of a computer game
which is not very good but uses subliminal music to make you think you are
enjoying it) I did a search on the Internet for "subliminal messages"

it found lots of interesting sites including downloads of sublmiminal
programs.

I have started writing this only a minute after doing the search because
there are a few things I am wondering that people in a psychology group may
be able to answer...

how safe is it?

(if I made s ubliminal message that said "go and drink some paint" would I
do that?!)

how legal is it?

how likely are there to be evil people out there that will include dangerous
messages inside programs which claim to be self-help subliminal programs?

I would also just like to hear ANY opinions and/or expertise on the subject
of subliminal messages. (and maybe hypnosis too)

[Dr Bryan Knight]

Since I sell hypnotic videos which contain subliminal messages,
let me inform you that they are safe, except for people who have
a brain pattern disorder.

You would not go and drink paint unless for some bizarre reason
you yearned to do so.

Visual subliminals (the only kind I deal with) are only received
by someone receptive to the message. Just like conscious
messages. For example, doesn't matter how many times I see a
Coke commercial I am not going to drink the stuff. Ditto re
hamburger chains' ads. Putting their ads in a subliminal form
would make no difference because I have a horror of their
products.

Evil people do all kinds of rotten things (didn't I hear of one
of your presidents who was involved in selling drugs, for
example?) but one activity which would be totally pointless
would be to make videos with evil subliminal messages. The only
people who would be influenced would be hate-mongering types who
are already into evildoing and thus eager to absorb more
rubbish.

A word re audio so-called subliminals: although some of my
colleagues vehemently disagree, the only research I've read on
the subject says such tapes are completely worthless, that
either there are no subliminals or even if there were humans
couldn't hear them. (However, audio subliminal tapes do have a
powerful placebo effect for some people.)

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[bank...@my-deja.com]

In article <9%bz5.1201$qi7.1...@nnrp4.clara.net>,
"Peter Lobley \(aka - Tony Soprano\)" <spam_this...@fuckoff.com>
wrote:

> I think people around dont know that we see and hear subliminal messages all the time. I believe subliminal messages such as the ones on T.V and radio are the types that only intise you, but what about free will. If you hate coke and there is a subliminal message up there, you might get thristy but your hate for coke wont go away. In psychology of learning class we learn a lot about this theroy. Most advertising companies commericals are based on paring two things you know well and puting there product name in there somehow, This technically would be a type of subliminal message. You should really restate your question on what you want to know about subliminal messages. You should also look to learning theorist theories because there big on this stuff.

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[alan jones]

Besides all that the worst offenders of subliminal messages aren't the products
with 'quiet voices' but those that force covert relationships or even hi-jack
normal relationships and meanings for their own ends. They use the phenomena
of conditioning which we are all subjects to, and redefine 'common' relationships
to co-hearse the unweary into adopting by default what ever is being sold.

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> In article <9%bz5.1201$qi7.1...@nnrp4.clara.net>,
> "Peter Lobley \(aka - Tony Soprano\)" <spam_this...@fuckoff.com>
> wrote: