The Myron insult competition!
Tombstonetales
of great wisdom, but can he do even better?
With all that spare time, surely you can add to the list?
The top 6 to date
Go fuck yourself you cretinous smudge of shit.
you are a shit talker.
I have no tolerance for shit talk.
Wank til you wilt..."
Go fuck yourself
You are a retard aren't you?
futureritual
Tombstonetales wrote:
>
> Go fuck yourself you cretinous smudge of shit.
>
Well, that's a classic right there.
If we're going to have a competition, we need some ground rules. Is it
open to only Myron? That's hardly competitive. We have some other fine
contenders here...
Some possible rules:
1. Insults can be in any thread on a.p.nlp, without being announced as
a contender for competition.
2. Can be made by anyone, to anyone.
3. Insults must not include the words, "Yo mama".
4. Health, weight, marital status, ancestry (aside from "yo mama"),
bathroom habits, sexual proclivities, are all fair game.
5. Myron gets a two stroke handicap, just to be fair to other
participants.
6. Odds making and gambling is encouraged.
7. I will volunteer as judge, based on professional experience (did I
mention the time I met Sam Kinison?), however, I will take advice from
the studio audience.
8. As judge, any insults I make may not be considered for the
competition.
9. Yo mama.
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Phil
http://hawkridgeproductions.com/
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
-- for me on this NG. I am more articulate, more
well-read, better able to argue and analyze arguments and -- it appears
-- better able to insult than anyone else here. I don't think that I'm
exceptional in absolute terms, only relative. That is to say, with
reference to the human population I'm not exceptional. I am relatively
superior because most of the people on this NG (and most of the people
I meet at NLP seminars) are unintelligent, ignorant, inarticulate and
foolish. In the "real world", amongst my peer group, I am at best a
marginally above average. But on this group I am a giant without
equal. This shouldn't be read as self-aggrandisement but instead as an
indictment of the NLP (and human potential) community.
The conceited (and ego comforting) thing for me to do would be to
assume that the members of this forum (and the majority of human
potential seminar attendees) are representative of the population and
then proceed to rank myself relative to this (skewed) sample. However,
I know better. I also appreciate that the above logic will be
difficult for many of the mouth-breathers on this NG to grasp.
What compounds the seminar junkie's problem is that (s)he is
meta-ignorant, i.e. (s)he doesn't know that (s)he's ignorant.
Higher-order
ignorance is damning. I know what I am ignorant of (and I am ignorant
of many things). This insight is invaluable and no NLP/DHE/PE/NHR
seminar will provide it for you. On the contrary, it will obscure it.
DHE is a technology of self-delusion (as is magick).
If there were no NLP/NHR/DHE rhetoric-reality gap and the "Bandler
technologies" delivered what they promise then this NG should
be bursting with exemplary behaviour. This NG should -- theoretically
-- be populated by the most articulate, most informed, most
intelligent,
funniest, most perceptive individuals on the Internet. Instead we find
the opposite. How can we account for this other than in the
manner I have?
I hope you can appreciate the irony of the absence of exceptional
behaviour on a NG that is dedicated to the discussion of a field
that is based on modelling exceptional behaviour.
To drive the point further, none of the "good" qualities I have --
including my humour and insult generation -- have anything to do with
(Bandler) NLP. (Bandler) NLP/NHR/DHE have been useful only in so far
as they have been interesting subjects to "debunk". Debunking
activates and develops that part of our neurology that makes us more
intelligent, and it compells learning. The also applies to your
special interest: western magick. The best thing a curious person can
do in relation to Crowley is read him with a view to demolishing his
entire life and work. To do so effectively will require a study of
social psychology, cultic studies, psychopathology, psychotropic
pharmacology, neurology, deviance, epistemology, Christian apologetics,
philosophy of science, moral philosophy, informal logic, literary
theory, semiology and theology. This is the sole value of Crowley's
life and work. You will get more from this exercise than you will ever
get from actually enacting his silly rituals and uttering his
incantations. The ultimate thelemic (i.e. self-willing) act is to
reject Thelema.
-Myron
Tombstonetales
Yes excellent, you have my vote, but will he retreat to his psuedo
Greek debating persona? Only time will tell?
UnKaH
list, may as well have been written in greek.
His post was written to inform you stupid fucking ignorant son's of
bitches why your so ignorant, and like this mumbling mass of mule cum
(Tombstonetales) responds with just one more ignorant statement. Did
you get your daily dose of stupidity today? I fully understand what
Myron posted, I have read about the magick, dabbled in it, dabbled in
christianity, dabbed in many of the things he spoke of and that is why
I am so against DHE and PE and all this other crap those supposedly NLP
trainers are spewing. The reality of this became clear with Myron's
post.
Those into magick, or DHE or what ever want to believe in it so bad
they reject anything that contradicts their beliefs in it, and that is
why they can be so easily duped. I really never realized how sad these
people really are and yet they claim to be experts in the field of the
mind, and change technology and are as of yet so stuck in their own
pathetic worlds, they can't see their own ignorance.
One question? Does Bandlers shit really taste like chocolate turtles?
Or is that yet another mass delusion?
Tim
Tombstonetales
Excellent start we have
"stupid fucking ignorant son's of bitches why your so ignorant, and
like this mumbling mass of mule cum"
a good start, but can you try a little harder and more venom please!
also please son't repeat existing insults
Well done, the odds are shortening between you and Myron on who will
win!
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
"Eurotrash"? I thought I called Robert (the master modeller) that
only.
You're are the Californian that has this "Eastern wisdom" facade
erected. You're the one that wrote you would use your Kali and
Aiki-jitsu skills against me over the Internet. You're also the one
that thinks Bhagwan Sri Rajneesh (see
http://www.watchman.org/na/rajneesh.htm)
was great man.
It is evident from your posts that you are a jerk-off extraordinaire.
Do you pine for the bucket you crawled out of at the abortion clinic?
-Myron
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
>Or is that yet another mass delusion?
Thanks for that Tim, it gave me a good belly-laugh.
I heard that Bandler's shit tastes lke caramel filled chocalate koalas.
Is that true?
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
-Myron
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
places
>accessible to other "magicians" out of the fear that they could use it
to
>link to him and send him curses. Draw your own conclusion.
Crowley's sexual perversion is well-documented. He was into pretty
much every paraphilia including
paedophilia, coprophilia, zoophilia and necrophilia. So yes he did eat
shit, literally.
According to Wilson in "The Occult", when Crowley was in his late-40s
and living in Africa, "[h]e had acquired a small Negro boy, with whom
he performed acts of sex magic."
Biographer King in his "The Magical World of Alister Crowley" tells us
that Crowley in performing
his "sex-magick" rituals, "deliberately humiliated himself by
being...the passive partner in act[s] of buggery" .
Crowley reportedly liked to think that he was beautiful whist he was
being sodomised.
This prompts me to ask ask Phil Farber whether he's the "catcher" or
the "thrower" in ritual. A disturbing
image is that of Robert Anton Wilson bent over, _in extremis_, being
sodomised by Phil Farber. Has this
happened Phil? No less disturbing is the image of Phil Farber, ankles
behind ears, being pounded by
Genesis P-Orridge (Neil Andrew Megson, who I understand now has a huge
breast implants). I need
to run the swish pattern.
-Myron
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
-Myron
UnKaH
the runny shit acts as a lubricant? Yikes, this is a visual I didn't
need.
Besides, Myron, I laughed so hard at that post I almost fell out of my
chair.
Tim
Robert
> I re-iterate that ther is no competition -- intellectual or otherwise
> -- for me on this NG. I am more articulate, more
> well-read, better able to argue and analyze arguments and -- it appears
> -- better able to insult than anyone else here. I don't think that I'm
> exceptional in absolute terms, only relative. That is to say, with
> reference to the human population I'm not exceptional. I am relatively
> superior because most of the people on this NG (and most of the people
> I meet at NLP seminars) are unintelligent, ignorant, inarticulate and
> foolish.
Didnt get it yet Myron?
Still going to NLP seminars?
Might try Bandler and some DHE.
Heard that most teach NLP as taught back in the 1980.
Maybe you didnt notice that and was deluded by the trainer?
In the "real world", amongst my peer group, I am at best a
> marginally above average. But on this group I am a giant without
> equal. This shouldn't be read as self-aggrandisement but instead as an
> indictment of the NLP (and human potential) community.
Whos your peer group?
Indulging into mystery of thinking (magic) where rituals are
performed?
For someone such articulate as you with proper references it seems
strange to not put proper refrences to your self and your peer group
in such a newsgroup as this.
You start to get down to this NG level Myron?
> The conceited (and ego comforting) thing for me to do would be to
> assume that the members of this forum (and the majority of human
> potential seminar attendees) are representative of the population and
> then proceed to rank myself relative to this (skewed) sample. However,
> I know better. I also appreciate that the above logic will be
> difficult for many of the mouth-breathers on this NG to grasp.
>
> What compounds the seminar junkie's problem is that (s)he is
> meta-ignorant, i.e. (s)he doesn't know that (s)he's ignorant.
> Higher-order
> ignorance is damning. I know what I am ignorant of (and I am ignorant
> of many things). This insight is invaluable and no NLP/DHE/PE/NHR
> seminar will provide it for you. On the contrary, it will obscure it.
> DHE is a technology of self-delusion (as is magick).
It is heavly influenced by hypnosis and I guess also has some
references to Bandlers own interests which lies in the magical area.
It isnt clear what those magical areas refer to tho.
John Grinder did write in whispering in the wind about Bandlers DHE
and said it had some interesting auditory installtions. Most he said
it contained the basis of hypnotic patterning he and Bandler got from
Milton Erickson earlier coded down.
> If there were no NLP/NHR/DHE rhetoric-reality gap and the "Bandler
> technologies" delivered what they promise then this NG should
> be bursting with exemplary behaviour. This NG should -- theoretically
> -- be populated by the most articulate, most informed, most
> intelligent,
> funniest, most perceptive individuals on the Internet. Instead we find
> the opposite. How can we account for this other than in the
> manner I have?
You gone to NLP seminars, and still havent got it?
You surprise me since such a intelligent and well read and wide
thinking person should have goten it?
What we have here based on bandlers magics are not for you to get
ever.
Sorry, no begging, no whining or no meta-model or even counterexampels
or even good and even great questions can persuade me to give that
simple secret to you. (nice try tho Myron)
Go pay for a seminar with Bandler to get it.
> I hope you can appreciate the irony of the absence of exceptional
> behaviour on a NG that is dedicated to the discussion of a field
> that is based on modelling exceptional behaviour.
Well, I think the modelling is about excellent results not exceptional
behaviour since exceptional behaviour would be out of the specific
context and could be just anything, like ranting from people who have
been to NLP seminars and still havent got it Myron?
Ah, you so clearly havent got NLP yet to sad.
I dont give up hope on you yet Myron, i still think you can be saved
and get it.
> To drive the point further, none of the "good" qualities I have --
> including my humour and insult generation -- have anything to do with
> (Bandler) NLP.
That is beacuse you havent got it yet Myron, your engaed into delusion
still and even such clear thinking, and highly wide expereince with a
lot of NLP and books about a wide range of subjects dosnt help when
yous till havent got it.
*smiles*
Have a nice day
Your best
/Robert
www.riggiomodel.biz
MaxFisher
You clearly have no real interest in NLP and I suspect have never
trained in NLP, so why do you spend hours and hours posting
essentially the same points attacking previous members of this group
who have long since departed?
JLA
> trained in NLP, so why do you spend hours and hours posting
> essentially the same points attacking previous members of this group
> who have long since departed?
I'm only guessing but I'd say Myron got fed up with NLP/DHE people
making freaking grandiose claims and charging mega prices for what they
can't deliver, and decided to help people save some of their
hard-earned cash. Perhaps he was pissed at feeling ripped off? He's
raised some excellent points and his argumentation style is impressive,
whether you agree with him or not.
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
Really? Then why do I know more about it than most self-professed
experts.
Read my posts.
> and I suspect have never
>trained in NLP,
Well your suspicion is ill-founded.
>so why do you spend hours and hours posting
>essentially the same points attacking previous members of this group
>who have long since departed?
The personal attacks are minor and peripheral. The core of my posting
is a
sustained, consistent and rigorous critique of Bandleresque NLP and the
other
"Bandler technologies".
I think of what I do as an advocacy campaign. There is a lack of
critical opinion in the NLP community. I am helping to fill the void.
-Myron
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
>making freaking grandiose claims and charging mega prices for what
they
>can't deliver, and decided to help people save some of their
>hard-earned cash. Perhaps he was pissed at feeling ripped off?
That pretty much captures my motivation. I've wasted time, money and
effort on
Bandler/LaValle NLP and DHE. I wish there was someone like me
alt.psychology.nlp -- rather than a bunch of mindless sycophants --
when I just discovered NLP.
> He's
>raised some excellent points and his argumentation style is
impressive,
>whether you agree with him or not.
Thank-you.
-Myron
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
>Didnt get it yet Myron?
I think I have a better grasp on NLP than you do.
>Still going to NLP seminars?
Not for some time now.
>Might try Bandler and some DHE.
Already have.
>Heard that most teach NLP as taught back in the 1980.
>Maybe you didnt notice that and was deluded by the trainer?
No, not quite.
>In the "real world", amongst my peer group, I am at best a
>> marginally above average. But on this group I am a giant without
>> equal. This shouldn't be read as self-aggrandisement but instead as
an
>> indictment of the NLP (and human potential) community.
>
>Whos your peer group?
The members of my profession.
>Indulging into mystery of thinking (magic) where rituals are
>performed?
Rituals? I don't perform rituals.
I can't parse that sentence (and don't say I'm ducking your questions).
>For someone such articulate as you with proper references it seems
>strange to not put proper refrences to your self and your peer group
>in such a newsgroup as this.
It seems strange that I don't put references to myself and my peer
group
on alt.psychology.nlp? How so? This isn't a reputable forum.
>You start to get down to this NG level Myron?
No, I'm above it that's why I can shit on people like you from a great
height.
>It is heavly influenced by hypnosis and I guess also has some
>references to Bandlers own interests which lies in the magical area.
That is to say it's a load of nonsense.
>It isnt clear what those magical areas refer to tho.
Crowley.
>John Grinder did write in whispering in the wind about Bandlers DHE
>and said it had some interesting auditory installtions. Most he said
>it contained the basis of hypnotic patterning he and Bandler got from
>Milton Erickson earlier coded down.
So what?
>You gone to NLP seminars, and still havent got it?
Haven't got what?
>You surprise me since such a intelligent and well read and wide
>thinking person should have goten it?
What is 'it'? You clearly regard yourself as more intelligent and
knowledgeable
than me. Just like David Gould, Nick Kemp and Randall Kelton.
>What we have here based on bandlers magics are not for you to get
>ever.
>Sorry, no begging, no whining or no meta-model or even counterexampels
>or even good and even great questions can persuade me to give that
>simple secret to you. (nice try tho Myron)
There is nothing to get. There is no secret. Do you appreciate how
conceited, pretentious and deluded you present by claiming you have
"the secret"?
This confirms my characterisation of Bandler's seminars as cultic. The
claim to possess esoteric/occult knowledge is cultic.
In order for me to covet your knowledge you'd have to present as
someone that has knowledge worth covetting. You're pretentious,
deluded, ignorant Eurotrash. There is nothing that you have that I
won't. In all of your posts you did not once communicate insight,
lucidity, knowledge or efficacy. This may make the front-page of the
"Arbetet" in your head but you present online as a pretentious
simpleton, (with apolgies to Bentham) you are a fool on stilts.
The very idea that you could entice or tease me (or anyone with average
intelligence) is ridiculous. Implicit in the idea is that I envy you.
Do you imagine that I envy you? Do you imagine yourself as an object
of envy?
>Go pay for a seminar with Bandler to get it.
I'm not one of the herd. Bandler seminars aren't intended for
independent
and clear thinkers. They are for people like you.
>> I hope you can appreciate the irony of the absence of exceptional
>> behaviour on a NG that is dedicated to the discussion of a field
>> that is based on modelling exceptional behaviour.
>
>Well, I think the modelling is about excellent results not exceptional
>behaviour since exceptional behaviour would be out of the specific
>context and could be just anything, like ranting from people who have
>been to NLP seminars and still havent got it Myron?
Exceptional behaviour _is_ excellent behaviour.
>Ah, you so clearly havent got NLP yet to sad.
What is sad is your pretence to be in possession of hidden truth.
>I dont give up hope on you yet Myron, i still think you can be saved
>and get it.
Save your hope for yourself. You're the kind of person that is liable
to a have a psychotic break in the future. Your grasp of reality is
weak and you overemphasize the importance of subjective exprience.
>That is beacuse you havent got it yet Myron, your engaed into delusion
>still and even such clear thinking, and highly wide expereince with a
>lot of NLP and books about a wide range of subjects dosnt help when
>yous till havent got it.
If anyone is deluded it is you. I don't profess to have
mystical/esoteric/occult knowledge. I don't claim to have knowledge of
a
great secret.
Again, this is another fluff post from you. You are overestimating
your
intelligence in relation to my own.
You are fine example of the problems with Bandler seminars. You've
most likely spent
a small fortune on NLP/NHR/DHE seminars yet you remain a naive,
ignorant,
pretentious fool.
-Myron
UnKaH
at spending 700.00 on the DHE and PE Cd's and got nothing in return.
Some of the stories told on PE cd's are the same as the ones on the DHE
cd's, and I always thought crap like that had no end because it is in
such abundance.
Very, Very valid points have been raised and yet not one single
advocate of this crap, they call DHE, has come forth to debated these
valid points. Most in fact have run away off this NG or are hiding
under assumed identities. What does that tell you? People who speak the
truth have nothing to hide from.
They couldn't stand the heat so they got the fuck outta the kitchen.
Tim
futureritual
Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
> I re-iterate that ther is no competition -- intellectual or otherwise
> -- for me on this NG. I am more articulate, more
> well-read, better able to argue and analyze arguments and -- it
appears
> -- better able to insult than anyone else here.
Hahaha... No. Really. It's just the insults.
And this post was pretty tepid and low-scoring. I know you can do
better.
Notice... puffing yourself up does not score at all. You need to be a
little more direct with your attacks... and give them some sting.
For instance... If I were to say, "Myron is a dilettante who mistakes a
google search for the actual practice of thing." That would score, but
not highly.
On the other hand, if someone were to say, "Myron's thinking is
horribly affected by the large carrot up his ass." That would score
more highly for being direct.
Now if you, Myron, were to say, "I used to love shoving carrots up my
ass, but haven't been able to since the hemorrhoids." That would also
score more highly. Since the rules state that insults can be aimed at
anyone, self-deprecation is fair game.
Got it? Okay... now do better.
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Phil
futureritual
J. Bloggs wrote:
> Pseudo Greek Debating Persona? What the fuck is this actually? Some
attempt
> at creating an archetype that only exists in your own mind? Mind you,
much
> of whatever it was that you ever have uttered on this group was
completely
> void of intelligence and represented great depths of dellusion that
you've
> been hypnotized into, or could have always been in. I think Myron is
right,
> you must breath through your mouth.
No points here. You repeated one of Myron's insults. Work on it.
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Phil
futureritual
UnKaH wrote:
> His post was written to inform you stupid fucking ignorant son's of
> bitches why your so ignorant, and like this mumbling mass of mule cum
> (Tombstonetales) responds with just one more ignorant statement. Did
> you get your daily dose of stupidity today? I fully understand what
> Myron posted, I have read about the magick, dabbled in it, dabbled in
> christianity, dabbed in many of the things he spoke of and that is
why
> I am so against DHE and PE and all this other crap those supposedly
NLP
> trainers are spewing. The reality of this became clear with Myron's
> post.
Not bad, Tim. So far you are in the lead, well ahead of Myron. Work on
the presentation, though. Bad spelling and grammar really takes some of
the steam out of it.
Score:
Myron 0
Tim 3
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Phil
futureritual
J. Bloggs wrote:
> In your case he knew he was talking to a retard given your
proclamation that
> all the major religions in the world state the truth is
personal...you
> moron.
>
One point for that:
Myron 0
Tim 3
Joe 1
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Phil
futureritual
Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
> >The man, it was said, would rather eat his own shit than leave it in
> places
> >accessible to other "magicians" out of the fear that they could use
it
> to
> >link to him and send him curses. Draw your own conclusion.
>
> Crowley's sexual perversion is well-documented. He was into pretty
> much every paraphilia including
> paedophilia, coprophilia, zoophilia and necrophilia. So yes he did
eat
> shit, literally.
>
> According to Wilson in "The Occult", when Crowley was in his late-40s
> and living in Africa, "[h]e had acquired a small Negro boy, with whom
> he performed acts of sex magic."
>
> Biographer King in his "The Magical World of Alister Crowley" tells
us
> that Crowley in performing
> his "sex-magick" rituals, "deliberately humiliated himself by
> being...the passive partner in act[s] of buggery" .
> Crowley reportedly liked to think that he was beautiful whist he was
> being sodomised.
Insulting dead people scores very low... especially when you are
quoting spurious sources (and spelling names wrong, too). No points
here.
> This prompts me to ask ask Phil Farber whether he's the "catcher" or
> the "thrower" in ritual. A disturbing
> image is that of Robert Anton Wilson bent over, _in extremis_, being
> sodomised by Phil Farber. Has this
> happened Phil? No less disturbing is the image of Phil Farber,
ankles
> behind ears, being pounded by
> Genesis P-Orridge (Neil Andrew Megson, who I understand now has a
huge
> breast implants). I need
> to run the swish pattern.
Okay... getting better... you get a couple points for this. Work on
directness and venom. The images are good, but too many words to get to
the point. I should note, tho, that insulting the judge scores no more
or less points than insulting anyone else.
Myron and Tim are now tied for the lead. Let's get to it, guys! So far
you are falling way short of expectations.
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Phil
futureritual
>You are fine example of the problems with Bandler seminars. >You've
>most likely spent
>a small fortune on NLP/NHR/DHE seminars yet you remain a >naive,
>ignorant,
>pretentious fool.
Direct but unimaginative. Half a point.
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Phil
Tombstonetales
Come on Myron I have $70 on you to win!!
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
I beg to differ.
>And this post was pretty tepid and low-scoring. I know you can do
>better.
>
>Notice... puffing yourself up does not score at all.
Again, I beg to differ.
>You need to be a
>little more direct with your attacks... and give them some sting.
Given that you explicitly stated that you think my capacity to generate
insults is better than yours amd everyone elses on this NG why are you
offering advice?
>For instance... If I were to say, "Myron is a dilettante who mistakes
a
>google search for the actual practice of thing." That would score, but
>not highly.
Okay, that's the "you have to eat a shit sandwich before you can judge
it idea".
>On the other hand, if someone were to say, "Myron's thinking is
>horribly affected by the large carrot up his ass." That would score
>more highly for being direct.
Is your thinking affected by Robert Anton Wilson's cock up your arse?
>Now if you, Myron, were to say, "I used to love shoving carrots up my
>ass, but haven't been able to since the hemorrhoids."
Is that a coded way of saying, "I used to love shoving my cock up
Robert Anton Wilson's arse, but haven't been able to since his
haemorrhoids".
>That would also
>score more highly. Since the rules state that insults can be aimed at
>anyone, self-deprecation is fair game.
I haven't conceded to your rules.
Phil, can you actually offer any counter-arguments to mine. I
thoroughly
refuted your social-constructionst nonsense regarding obesity. Do you
have a rebuttal?
futureritual
Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
> Given that you explicitly stated that you think my capacity to
generate
> insults is better than yours amd everyone elses on this NG why are
you
> offering advice?
I didn't compare you to anyone. I just said that it is something you do
well.
>
> Is your thinking affected by Robert Anton Wilson's cock up your arse?
Ah! A point!
> >Now if you, Myron, were to say, "I used to love shoving carrots up
my
> >ass, but haven't been able to since the hemorrhoids."
>
> Is that a coded way of saying, "I used to love shoving my cock up
> Robert Anton Wilson's arse, but haven't been able to since his
> haemorrhoids".
Half a point.
> >That would also
> >score more highly. Since the rules state that insults can be aimed
at
> >anyone, self-deprecation is fair game.
>
> I haven't conceded to your rules.
So what?
> Phil, can you actually offer any counter-arguments to mine. I
> thoroughly
> refuted your social-constructionst nonsense regarding obesity. Do
you
> have a rebuttal?
Nothing to rebut. You missed my point entirely... and actually
illustrated it quite well in the process. Readers can draw their own
conclusions. I have no desire to convert anyone to my point of view...
Take it or leave it.
Now lets get back to it. I've given you more straight lines here than a
piece of graph paper. Come on, be creative, tell me how pathetic I am.
93 93/93
Phil
http://hawkridgeproductions.com/
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
>illustrated it quite well in the process. Readers can draw their own
>conclusions.
Really?
>I have no desire to convert anyone to my point of view...
>Take it or leave it.
Believe me, I left it as soon as I encountered it.
>Now lets get back to it. I've given you more straight lines here than
a
>piece of graph paper. Come on, be creative, tell me how pathetic I am.
Telling you how pathetic you are is quite superfluous isn't it. It's
2005 and you claim you can cast spells and summon deities. Does this
sort of nonsense:
"When you open up your 7-tape Magick for the 21st Century video set and
pop it into your VCR, you'll learn and witness some incredible things:
* Banishing Rituals - How to make your working space safe and
secure - and prepare your own energy for powerful work.
* How your own focus of attention can change reality - right now!
* How to contact and communicate with the highest aspects of your
own mind.
* How to call forth and communicate with entities.
* How to create and manage group-mind entities - egregores and
deities!
* How to create and manage states of possession. (That's right -
you'll see one of my students become safely possessed - and then
cleared of the entity - right on your video screen!)"
(http://www.hawkridgeproductions.com/products/magick1.htm)
need any commentary? To quote you, "[r]eaders can draw their own
conclusions. "
-Myron
futureritual
Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
> "When you open up your 7-tape Magick for the 21st Century video set
and
> pop it into your VCR, you'll learn and witness some incredible
things:
> * Banishing Rituals - How to make your working space safe and
> secure - and prepare your own energy for powerful work.
> * How your own focus of attention can change reality - right
now!
> * How to contact and communicate with the highest aspects of
your
> own mind.
> * How to call forth and communicate with entities.
> * How to create and manage group-mind entities - egregores and
> deities!
> * How to create and manage states of possession. (That's right
-
> you'll see one of my students become safely possessed - and then
> cleared of the entity - right on your video screen!)"
> (http://www.hawkridgeproductions.com/products/magick1.htm)
>
> need any commentary? To quote you, "[r]eaders can draw their own
> conclusions. "
Damn right they can. Especially if they go and read the whole thing.
That address again:
http://www.hawkridgeproductions.com/products/magick1.htm
Please, post more advertising copy from my website. There's plenty more
good stuff there. I will note, tho, that attempting to curry favour
with the judge will not improve your score.
No insults, no points.
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
> That address again:
> http://www.hawkridgeproductions.com/products/magick1.htm
>
> Please, post more advertising copy from my website. There's plenty
more
> good stuff there. I will note, tho, that attempting to curry favour
> with the judge will not improve your score.
>
> No insults, no points.
It is clear to me that
(a) you have nothing interesting to say;
(b) you are not willing and/or able to defend your (idiotic) beliefs
and products; and
(c) you regard yourself as my superior (this woule be because you can
cast spells?).
Incidentally, do you ever feel silly inserting the '93's into your
posts? Do you care that you are contributing to the stupification of
the American public?
-Myron
Tombstonetales
This is very disappointing, no insults whatsoever! Come on Myron I have
money on you to win this!
MaxFisher
This poster doesn't hide behind a fictional name and doesn't hide away
behind an alias like yourself! BTW why do you feel the need to do
that? What are you really afraid of?
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
your benefit I'll repeat these reasons
here. I post anonymously because:
(a) I don't want to be asscociated with this NG, it's a virtual den of
thieves, kooks and arseholes;
(b) I'm presenting a dissenting view and has gained me much enemies. I
choose to protect
myself (and my family) from any harassment or harm;
(c) I'd like my arguments and evidence to stand (or fall) on their own
merits without reference
to my profession, education and exprience.
I add that I'm not the only member of this NG that posts anonymously.
-Myron
Tombstonetales
cluck, cluck, cluck
futureritual
Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
> It is clear to me that
> (a) you have nothing interesting to say;
> (b) you are not willing and/or able to defend your (idiotic) beliefs
> and products; and
> (c) you regard yourself as my superior (this woule be because you can
> cast spells?).
>
> Incidentally, do you ever feel silly inserting the '93's into your
> posts? Do you care that you are contributing to the stupification of
> the American public?
Very poor showing. Unless you get to some more creative insults in
other threads, I'm going to award this to Tim, who seems to know better
than you when an insult is just an insult and not something posing as
rational debate (or vice versa).
So... again, the rules are that insults can be in any thread, addressed
to anyone. Since I don't have the time or inclination to read every
thread here, I'll ask some of the more observant readers here to repost
the better lines to this thread, if you can.
futureritual
Again, for those who might have missed it... Since my time is more
limited than I had hoped, I can't get to read every thread here, so
I'll ask anyone who wants to play to repost any good lines that you
find on the newsgroup to this thread.
Please, just repost the insult, without the rest of the post... but do
include who made the insult, who it was directed at, and what thread it
came from. Note that I tend to score lower for insults aimed at dead
people or those who are not present to respond... tho if one of those
lines is particularly creative, I may still consider it.
Thanks!
Tombstonetales
Come on Bloggs, Myron surely you can do better than this?
futureritual
Myron to Southern GuitarFitnessWare in Orlando PE/DHE Feedback thread:
"Certainly, you are not a leader in a campaign of ignorance, you
are mere ballast: a seminar crawling, toadying sycophant that
is ever-ready to spread the "gospel". "
This is not bad. Two points. More like this and Myron could maintain
the lead.
futureritual
This beauty from Tim to TombStone in the "Best Insult..." thread:
>Well you forgot to mention what the prize is. That being the case, why
>would any one want to participate in your lame and bogus >competition?
I
>am betting, really betting with odds that at some point your going to
>say you made us post, just like that lame fuck said he hypnotized me.
>How about you and those other flatulent breathed Monkeys join in, or
>is
>being clever and witty not a strategy you can grasp?
>What do you offer as a prize? Free DHE cd's?
>1 hour of free counselling by you or lumpy?
>Or maybe a date with your crack ho sister.
>Surely there has to be a prize of some kind in order to inspire
>competition, add a little class to this.
>Then again, how could you be trusted to deliver the prize, when you
>and
>the other NLP ho's are very short on ethics? So, dickhead, who are
>you
>or must Joe once again track your bitch ass down and expose you?
>So if you want a competition, inspire us with a prize? No, food stamps
>don't count as real money, and no we don't want your 1972 Lemon >Green
>rust bucket Pinto as
>a prize either.
>I got it, how about a magic spell for what ever we want?
>Or maybe you might be inclined to give up some of Richard's shit, oh
>man my mouth is watering.
>What can you offer, you broke ass slope headed douche bag. That >one
was
>free.
Awesome. 10 points.
And I'll just note that no prizes are needed to induce competition. If
you post an insult anywhere on apnlp, you automatically enter the game.
It's that simple.
UnKaH
you said, cluck, cluck, cluck. Hey how about you and the rest of you
NLP butt pirates join in the insult contest, Oh I forget, no control
panel from the DHE control panel was designed for that. Well tell
Richard you want one, what the fuck you waiting for? We all know he
thinks for the lot of you, but your just to fucken ignorant to see
that. Or maybe, Just maybe Richard hasen't given his approval yet, but
you may only be a few lines away, so keep your hopes up. so while your
chomping at the bit and you wish you could lick yourself like your dog
does, Hey if you pet him enough he might let you lick him too, Richard
just might release you to this insulting contest and even give you a
large helping of Peanut Turtles, steaming hot and fresh, as brain food,
to stimulate those little brain cells into being used for the first
time.
Let me see, they can't debate Myron, they can't compete in insults,
they can't explain DHE and believe in magick, that was preformed and
written by a known pedophile. What am I stupid or something, I want to
be on your side. That way I don't have to think ever again. I hope that
is the prize to be able to become one of you, time for my medication,
see ya.
Tim
Tombstonetales
Better, but still not really on top form yet. Please really dog deep
and produce some really quality insults, these are not up to your usual
form
futureritual
Tim,
Very nice. That's six more points! You are leaving Myron in the dust.
Keep going!
futureritual
Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
> (http://www.hawkridgeproductions.com/products/magick1.htm)
>
Myron,
Here's some more positive feedback to your posts. Thanks very much for
posting my ad copy with this link... I sold $1,050 worth of merchandise
from that post, three tape sets. Nice! Keep it up! (And I wonder how
much you've sold for Bandler, too...)
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
>posting my ad copy with this link... I sold $1,050 worth of
merchandise
>from that post, three tape sets. Nice! Keep it up! (And I wonder how
>much you've sold for Bandler, too...)
Will you pay me a commission?
I'm not sure how you established a causal connection between my post
and your
sales. Your Website URL appears in the signature area of all your
posts. This
sounds like schtick to me.
Also, I have no delusions about the mentality of the herd. I fully
appreciate that
there are many gullible, confused and disempowered people that can be
exploited
for a profit. I am not at all suprised that people buy your tape sets.
This, however, in no
way constitues evidence that I have not deterred others from _not_
buying your
product. Furthermore, it in no way demonstrates the value of your tape
sets.
I think I understand why you don't attempt to defend magick and your
tape sets. It is
because you sell to the reptlilian brain. Magick and other forms of
superstitions
practice speak to the reptile not the cortex. The reptile wants to be
powerful and in
control. The notion of spells (and the other rubbish) powefully
appeals to the reptilian
brain. In less intellgent people (the cortex is the locus of
intellect) the reptile has
too much influence over behaviour. Any explanation (which is
necessailiy cortical)
would be pointless. No one that practices magick does so for
intellectual reasons,
it is 100% reptilian and primitive. Also, the brain stem (reptilian
brain) is that part of
our neurology that is ritualistic. Magick excites and engages the
reptile. Unfortunately,
the brain stem is quite stupid.
To the brain-stem dominated individual it would make no difference if
even a geometric
proof that magick is bullshit were presented to them. The reptilian
brain doesn't understand
causation or truth. The reptilian has desiderata and simple heuristics
for satisfying these.
Offer the reptile the possibility of control over environment and it
will seize it. In more
intelligent people, the reptile becomes excited in a similar manner by
the prospect of
power. However, in more intelligent people, the cortex (which plays an
executive role)
modulates the impulses of the reptile and hence of behaviour. The
impulses of the
reptlilian brain are scrutinized by the cortex with its understanding
of causation and
tools of logic and reasoning. In unintelligent people this (cortical)
executive
function is undeveloped giving the reptile too much control over
bevahiour.
With regard to your clients, the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
In corporate terms, the executive
has gone AWOL leaving the cleaners to make all the decisions.
-Myron
Elvis Keith Lester
I attended and assisted with the PE/DHE/Trainers training in Orlando just
held.
Just thought I'd let you know I am available should you have a reasonable
desire to find out more about what DHE's directed toward doing.
Elvis
<lronhubb...@fastmail.to> wrote in message
news:1111201223....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Tombstonetales
Elvis Keith Lester wrote:
> Myron & Group,
>
> I attended and assisted with the PE/DHE/Trainers training in Orlando
just
> held.
>
> Just thought I'd let you know I am available should you have a
reasonable
> desire to find out more about what DHE's directed toward doing.
>
> Elvis
>
>
"a reasonable desire" what are the odds on that?
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
serious -- near fatal --
head trauma as a child. Have I understood correctly?
I'm interested to know whether you sustained trauma to the limbic
system or more specifically the
temporal lobes. Were you left with temporal lobe liability? Do you
have low intensity epilepsy?
I ask because temporal lobe liability has been implicated in "spiritual
experiences" i.e. feeling
the presence of deities or "higher powers", hearing the voices of
deities or "higher powers", delusion
with a spiritual/religious theme.
It is well-founded that a disproportinate amount of shamans --
irrespective of culture -- are epileptic
or schizophrenic. Both of these disorders are associated with temporal
lobe liability. Also,
transvestisism and homosexuality are implicated in many primitive
religions (Holland 2004). Further,
many shamans are transvestite/transexual/homosexual (Holland 2004).
Thus we can arrive at parsimonious explanation of "sex-magick",
"magick" in general and the aberrant
behaviour of people like Neil Megson ("Genesis P-Orridge"), a
transvestite, transexual practioner of
magick who came to the British police's attention for child sexual
abuse (Megson is one of Phil's
associates).
To pre-empt your response Phil my information regarding Neil Megson
comes from his home page.
My information regarding temporal lobe liability and its connections
with magical/superstitious thinking,
and the connection between magical/superstitious practices and sexual
aberration is from peer reviewed
literature and secondary sources based on the same.
No, I'm not a practictioner of "magick" and I don't need to be to
inquire. Furthermore, I don't have
defective temporal lobes so I'm unlikely to hallucinate deities without
the use of hallucinogens.
I can provide citations on request to you or anyone else that is
interested in exploring these
connections further.
Hence, evidence, reasoning, proof and argument (cortical concepts and
activities) have no impact
on your clintele. These people (and most likely you also) cannot be
reached. A dominant brain-stem,
damaged limbic system and neutered cortex are a dangerous combination.
Given this neurological
configuration it would seem very real that you are summoning deities.
The upshot of this is that
I'm not interested in you or you clientele, you and your clientele are
not the intended audience for my
debunking.
-Myron
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
to DHE" tape. I have more
than a vague idea about DHE.
However, I'll suspend my cynicism and hear (read) you out. Can you
provide the NG a concise description of
DHE that includes it's foundational presuppositions, intellectual
antecedents, central principles, core
techniques, scope, and objectives.
I'd appreciate it -- and it will spare you a pasting -- if you omitted
the usual bullshit that appears in DHE marketing
material. Make your piece lucid and specific.
-Myron
futureritual
Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
>
> Will you pay me a commission?
>
No, but feel free to discuss and promote my work as often as you'd
like. I could use a new car.
futureritual
Tim to TombStone:
>I am sure you have recieved many private e-mails also, from >fond
fans
>threatening to kill you or other inbred asking for their food exit >to
>be visited by your magic wand. Boy what a stud muffin you >are. What
is
>very clear on the part of Myron and Joe is this, even if they >had no
>NLP training what so ever, they could still yet, kick you in the
>place
>you like to put your dick into others.
Wow, Tim! You are just blowing Myron right out of the competition here.
Six more points for you!
futureritual
Myron to Southern GuitarFitnessWare:
> You're an idiotic tool and you were looking for other idiotic tools
> with which to validate your decision to spend thousands of dollars to
> listen to two fat fuckers tell you that you can control your
> involuntary
> physiology by tweaking the imaginary dials on an imginary console.
> You're
> a tool.
>
> You're a useless jerk-off.
5 Points!
futureritual
>The upshot of this is that
>I'm not interested in you or you clientele, you and your >clientele
are
>not the intended audience for my
>debunking.
Aw, gee... That's really too bad... I was hoping you'd send more
traffic to my website. That's fine, tho... go back to promoting DHE.
You're doing a damn fine job.
No points here.
Tombstonetales
Come on Tim and Joe, show us what ya got!!
Joe Bloggs
<lronhubb...@fastmail.to> wrote in message
news:1110694631.0...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >The man, it was said, would rather eat his own shit than leave it in
> places
> >accessible to other "magicians" out of the fear that they could use it
> to
> >link to him and send him curses. Draw your own conclusion.
>
> Crowley's sexual perversion is well-documented. He was into pretty
> much every paraphilia including
> paedophilia, coprophilia, zoophilia and necrophilia. So yes he did eat
> shit, literally.
>
> According to Wilson in "The Occult", when Crowley was in his late-40s
> and living in Africa, "[h]e had acquired a small Negro boy, with whom
> he performed acts of sex magic."
>
> Biographer King in his "The Magical World of Alister Crowley" tells us
> that Crowley in performing
> his "sex-magick" rituals, "deliberately humiliated himself by
> being...the passive partner in act[s] of buggery" .
> Crowley reportedly liked to think that he was beautiful whist he was
> being sodomised.
>
> This prompts me to ask ask Phil Farber whether he's the "catcher" or
> the "thrower" in ritual. A disturbing
> image is that of Robert Anton Wilson bent over, _in extremis_, being
> sodomised by Phil Farber. Has this
> happened Phil? No less disturbing is the image of Phil Farber, ankles
> behind ears, being pounded by
> Genesis P-Orridge (Neil Andrew Megson, who I understand now has a huge
> breast implants). I need
> to run the swish pattern.
Dear God....
Joe Bloggs
"futureritual" <primord...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110985805.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> 93
>
>
> Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
> > >The man, it was said, would rather eat his own shit than leave it in
> > places
> > >accessible to other "magicians" out of the fear that they could use
> it
> > to
> > >link to him and send him curses. Draw your own conclusion.
> >
> > Crowley's sexual perversion is well-documented. He was into pretty
> > much every paraphilia including
> > paedophilia, coprophilia, zoophilia and necrophilia. So yes he did
> eat
> > shit, literally.
> >
> > According to Wilson in "The Occult", when Crowley was in his late-40s
> > and living in Africa, "[h]e had acquired a small Negro boy, with whom
> > he performed acts of sex magic."
> >
> > Biographer King in his "The Magical World of Alister Crowley" tells
> us
> > that Crowley in performing
> > his "sex-magick" rituals, "deliberately humiliated himself by
> > being...the passive partner in act[s] of buggery" .
> > Crowley reportedly liked to think that he was beautiful whist he was
> > being sodomised.
>
Crowley insulted Christ on a regular basis and you seem to place him high on
your list. That's incongruent behavior "Fill".
Joe Bloggs
"Robert" <rob...@svensknlp.nu> wrote in message
news:627ff765.05031...@posting.google.com...
> "Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to" <lronhubb...@fastmail.to>
wrote in message
news:<1110601804.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
> > I re-iterate that ther is no competition -- intellectual or otherwise
> > -- for me on this NG. I am more articulate, more
> > well-read, better able to argue and analyze arguments and -- it appears
> > -- better able to insult than anyone else here. I don't think that I'm
> > exceptional in absolute terms, only relative. That is to say, with
> > reference to the human population I'm not exceptional. I am relatively
> > superior because most of the people on this NG (and most of the people
> > I meet at NLP seminars) are unintelligent, ignorant, inarticulate and
> > foolish.
>
> Didnt get it yet Myron?
As a master modeller, how is it that you can't yet model the basics of
English grammar and spelling, Robert?
> Still going to NLP seminars?
>
> Might try Bandler and some DHE.
>
> Heard that most teach NLP as taught back in the 1980.
Huh?
> For someone such articulate as you with proper references it seems
> strange to not put proper refrences
He's the only one using references, and properly, to support his arguments
you dolt!
> You surprise me since such a intelligent and well read and wide
> thinking person should have goten it?
Can you say this again in proper English so we can understand what you are
trying to communicate?
> Go pay for a seminar with Bandler to get it.
See, you are a prime example as to why people would want to stay away from
Bandler seminars. They seem to attract all kinds of incompetent retards like
you and James ADD Harris types.
> > I hope you can appreciate the irony of the absence of exceptional
> > behaviour on a NG that is dedicated to the discussion of a field
> > that is based on modelling exceptional behaviour.
>
> Well, I think the modelling is about excellent results
Why then do you not think excellent results in English and proper
communication in the text medium is not worth modelling, oh mighty Riggio
modeller?
> Ah, you so clearly havent got NLP yet to sad.
Again, care to have someone translate this?
> I dont give up hope on you yet Myron, i still think you can be saved
Haha, the savior complex as installed by NLP huh? Is this another skill you
magically pass on in your seminars, in which no one can understand what the
fuck you are saying but are convinced that it is unconsciously installed.
You should consider yourself lucky that there are people even more stupid
than you, who are willing to part with their money.
Joe Bloggs
> For instance... If I were to say, "Myron is a dilettante who mistakes a
> google search for the actual practice of thing." That would score, but
> not highly.
If you think this is going to entice or magically influence anyone to begin
the practice of coprophilia, such as you do, then I believe you've eaten
far too much shit. It is now the product of your thinking.
Joe Bloggs
> 93
>
> J. Bloggs wrote:
>
> > Pseudo Greek Debating Persona? What the fuck is this actually? Some
> attempt
> > at creating an archetype that only exists in your own mind? Mind you,
> much
> > of whatever it was that you ever have uttered on this group was
> completely
> > void of intelligence and represented great depths of dellusion that
> you've
> > been hypnotized into, or could have always been in. I think Myron is
> right,
> > you must breath through your mouth.
>
> No points here. You repeated one of Myron's insults. Work on it.
Do you have a bad habit of playing cards with yourself too? Finding it hard
to engage others in your idea of fun Fill?
Joe Bloggs
"UnKaH" <monst...@essential-skills.com> wrote in message
news:1110962270.9...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Very, Very valid points have been raised and yet not one single
> advocate of this crap, they call DHE, has come forth to debated these
> valid points. Most in fact have run away off this NG or are hiding
> under assumed identities.
Such as tombstonetales, a vocal advocate that it is useful to eat the shit
of Bandler.
Joe Bloggs
> 93
>
>
> Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
>
> > Given that you explicitly stated that you think my capacity to
> generate
> > insults is better than yours amd everyone elses on this NG why are
> you
> > offering advice?
>
>
> I didn't compare you to anyone. I just said that it is something you do
> well.
>
> >
> > Is your thinking affected by Robert Anton Wilson's cock up your arse?
>
> Ah! A point!
>
> > >Now if you, Myron, were to say, "I used to love shoving carrots up
> my
> > >ass, but haven't been able to since the hemorrhoids."
> >
> > Is that a coded way of saying, "I used to love shoving my cock up
> > Robert Anton Wilson's arse, but haven't been able to since his
> > haemorrhoids".
>
>
> Half a point.
>
>
> > >That would also
> > >score more highly. Since the rules state that insults can be aimed
> at
> > >anyone, self-deprecation is fair game.
> >
> > I haven't conceded to your rules.
>
>
> So what?
>
>
> > Phil, can you actually offer any counter-arguments to mine. I
> > thoroughly
> > refuted your social-constructionst nonsense regarding obesity. Do
> you
> > have a rebuttal?
>
> Nothing to rebut.
You think that concocting a lame game to divert from the fact that you are
getting an ass whiping in the debate you engaged is going to
make you seem intelligent? You just come across as an unintelligent wanker
like Stone Head. If you want to be in his company
then you're doing a good job. Please call me Myron's Monkey again?
> Readers can draw their own conclusions.
We have. You're a coward, and your tools of diversion are weak. You might
stop the Crowley influenced practice of coprophilia.
Joe Bloggs
<lronhubb...@fastmail.to> wrote in message
news:1111019739.5...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >Nothing to rebut. You missed my point entirely... and actually
> >illustrated it quite well in the process. Readers can draw their own
> >conclusions.
>
> Really?
>
> >I have no desire to convert anyone to my point of view...
> >Take it or leave it.
>
> Believe me, I left it as soon as I encountered it.
>
> >Now lets get back to it. I've given you more straight lines here than
> a
> >piece of graph paper. Come on, be creative, tell me how pathetic I am.
>
>
> Telling you how pathetic you are is quite superfluous isn't it. It's
> 2005 and you claim you can cast spells and summon deities. Does this
> sort of nonsense:
>
> "When you open up your 7-tape Magick for the 21st Century video set and
> pop it into your VCR, you'll learn and witness some incredible things:
> * Banishing Rituals - How to make your working space safe and
> secure - and prepare your own energy for powerful work.
> * How your own focus of attention can change reality - right now!
> * How to contact and communicate with the highest aspects of your
> own mind.
> * How to call forth and communicate with entities.
> * How to create and manage group-mind entities - egregores and
> deities!
> * How to create and manage states of possession. (That's right -
> you'll see one of my students become safely possessed - and then
> cleared of the entity - right on your video screen!)"
> (http://www.hawkridgeproductions.com/products/magick1.htm)
>
> need any commentary? To quote you, "[r]eaders can draw their own
> conclusions. "
ROTFLMAO. But Myron you know full well that there are all kinds of idiots
out there that have given Fill their hard earned cash for his
drivel.
Joe Bloggs
content, in a thread that you initiated in which you said you have no time
in debating the on topic postings that Myron has initiated.
Readers can draw their own conclusions.
"futureritual" <primord...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Joe Bloggs
"futureritual" <primord...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
> > (http://www.hawkridgeproductions.com/products/magick1.htm)
> >
>
> Myron,
>
> Here's some more positive feedback to your posts. Thanks very much for
> posting my ad copy with this link... I sold $1,050 worth of merchandise
> from that post, three tape sets. Nice! Keep it up! (And I wonder how
> much you've sold for Bandler, too...)
You're trying the same lame-ass technique that idiot Nick Kemp and Jon
Altfat tried. Your bluff won't work, you lame clueless dipshit.
Joe Bloggs
> 93
>
> >The upshot of this is that
> >I'm not interested in you or you clientele, you and your >clientele
> are
> >not the intended audience for my
> >debunking.
>
> Aw, gee... That's really too bad... I was hoping you'd send more
> traffic to my website. That's fine, tho... go back to promoting DHE.
> You're doing a damn fine job.
So we can take that as a no, you've never sought out the competency of a
medical professional for your deficiency then?
Tombstonetales
Come on Joe you seem to have lost your bite in the insult dept, these
are really 2nd rate posts. Pleased to see that you still can't get
Altfeld, Bandler, Kemp and Gould out of your head though! Ha ha
futureritual
Joe... you get a point for effort, but the content is pretty poor...
just one more point out of all these posts combined. A tip... you'll
score higher if you create your own insults, rather than repeating
Myron's... and, really, not any of Myron's better efforts either.
Tim still has a wide lead here, with Myron in second and Joe in a
distant third.
Tombstonetales
Yes Joe is really disappointing in this and many other respects. Myron
has become quite amusing, especially as he dismisses many the creators
of NLP who are world famous, while he himself clearly craves such
attention and recognition...
Joe Bloggs
"Tombstonetales" <tombston...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Do you get one point for insulting us with your poor English skills swishy?
Tombstonetales
However it looks like Joe is really putting in some effort in the last
24 hours and attacking all his usual targets, but as you say he tends
to repeat his guru Myron. I'll check back in next week to get an
update, but so far Tim seems to be the most insulting individual.
futureritual
>Do you get one point for insulting us with your poor English >skills
swishy?
Oh very good! Thanks for the suggestion! Yes, TombStone gets one point.
futureritual
From Domden W Nallmon:
"I hate Altfeld. He's a right tosser. Just don't know what bollocks
he's
going to come out with next. "
Weak, but direct. Half a point.
futureritual
>From Tom Vizinni:
"These ego driven wannabe's should be insulted. Some,
and you know who you are, just try to ride other people's coat tails to
gain
credibility. Only to be shunned by these childlike egomaniacs when they
are"
One point.
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
http://www.cwpn.org/hhg/Assets/phil2.jpg
You look like a bowling ball with a (bad) wig and beard. You have a
distinctly cretinous look. Were you fed pudding with a child-safe
spoon and a giant bib just before the picture was taken? Your hair
looks like a hag's wig. Where are your eyebrows?
-Myron
Laurenson
<lronhubb...@fastmail.to> wrote in message
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10 pts ! That one had me laughing so hard I nearly fell off the chair.
futureritual
Very good. And I thought you had decided not to play. Glad you're still
with us. That's 6 points for you.
futureritual
Laurenson wrote:
> <lronhubb...@fastmail.to> wrote in message
>
> 10 pts ! That one had me laughing so hard I nearly fell off the
chair.
It was a good one, but only the judge awards points. Sorry, but please
try your own insults to play.
futureritual
Myron:
>What specifically is Bandler's _original_ and _worthwhile_
>contribution
>to the world? Consider:
>(a) there is nothing original in old-code NLP. As I've argued at
>great
>length,
>the foundations and central ideas of NLP are entirely >derivative;
>(b) Bandler is the co-creator, not _the_ creator of NLP;
>(c) much of NLP is over-hyped and ineffective and only some >of it
>works. Research
>has established the value of very few NLP techniques;
>(d) Bandler has not produced anything of value separate from >Grinder
>and
>the Santa Cruz group. PE, NHR, NS and DHE are each piles >of shit.
>So what then is Bandler's contribution? Sure there's a cult
>surrounding
>him -- and morons like you are the ballast -- but that is all >there
is
>--
>a cult, a flock of mindless sheep.
Weak. This is where you fall short, Myron. Rationalizing your personal
likes and dislikes only turns out tepid insults. If you don't like
Bandler, then just go ahead and call him a name. Not to mention that
you have been repeating yourself.
Half a point.
When you're ready to improve your score... There are more pictures of
me on the web, you know. That one took a little research to find, so I
know you've got the time and energy to find more and write pithy
observations. There are pictures of Bandler, too. Go for it... you're
still lagging far behind Tim's awe-inspiring posts.
Joe Bloggs
> 93
>
>
> Laurenson wrote:
> > <lronhubb...@fastmail.to> wrote in message
> >
> > 10 pts ! That one had me laughing so hard I nearly fell off the
> chair.
>
>
> It was a good one, but only the judge awards points.
Well I think your game is rigged, and under that suspicion I have opted to
overthrow the judges chair. For example, you have yet to assess the multiple
one-liners that your friend Stonehead has spewed. It was only under my
suggestion that you gave him points for poor grammar.
Furthermore, you have missed the plethora of insults that I landed on
Stonehead, and despite that he offered himself up by putting his head to the
curb for me, those points still need to be assigned.
Therefore due to your vacant judging, I am now appointing myself as the sole
judge of this competition, and thus the 10pts Laurenson assessed is valid
and will stand.
You'll need to come up with a new game, because now you are simply losing
points. Repetitive posturing is indicative of an uncreative and duly empty
mind. Your neural network must be affected, and degenerative from all the
coprophilia you "witches" engage in.
Joe Bloggs
"Joe Bloggs" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > http://www.cwpn.org/hhg/Assets/phil2.jpg
> >
> > You look like a bowling ball with a (bad) wig and beard. You have a
> > distinctly cretinous look.
>
> complete story. Cretinous is bang-on!
>
> Cretionous: from French dialectal, deformed and mentally retarded person
> found in certain Alpine valleys.
> Slang: An Idiot, stupid; non-functional; very poorly designed.
>
> Approximate synonyms: bletcherous, bagbiting losing, brain-damaged.
>
> Is there a connection between coprophilia and brain-damage? Phil Farber
> seems to tell the tale.
>
> > Were you fed pudding with a child-safe
> > spoon and a giant bib just before the picture was taken?
>
>
> > Your hair looks like a hag's wig. Where are your eyebrows?
20pts!
Joe Bloggs
>
> http://www.cwpn.org/hhg/Assets/phil2.jpg
>
> You look like a bowling ball with a (bad) wig and beard. You have a
> distinctly cretinous look.
BWAHAHAH, he certainly sounded stupid, but the look on his face tells the
complete story. Cretinous is bang-on!
Cretionous: from French dialectal, deformed and mentally retarded person
found in certain Alpine valleys.
Slang: An Idiot, stupid; non-functional; very poorly designed.
Approximate synonyms: bletcherous, bagbiting losing, brain-damaged.
Is there a connection between coprophilia and brain-damage? Phil Farber
seems to tell the tale.
> Were you fed pudding with a child-safe
> spoon and a giant bib just before the picture was taken?
ROTFLMAO...
futureritual
Joe Bloggs wrote:
> Well I think your game is rigged, and under that suspicion I have
opted to
> overthrow the judges chair. For example, you have yet to assess the
multiple
> one-liners that your friend Stonehead has spewed. It was only under
my
> suggestion that you gave him points for poor grammar.
>
> Furthermore, you have missed the plethora of insults that I landed on
> Stonehead, and despite that he offered himself up by putting his head
to the
> curb for me, those points still need to be assigned.
Please... post them here. As I said early on in the competition, I am
counting on suggestions here. I can't read everything that's posted in
the newsgroup.
Seriously, tho, I don't think Stonehead really has much talent in
insults. But place your votes. And point out some of yours... I guess I
missed the good ones.
futureritual
>20pts!
0 points. I've already explained that simply paraphrasing Myron is poor
form. Come on, step up, be a man, show some originality if you want to
be a contender.
Joe Bloggs
> 93
>
>
> Joe Bloggs wrote:
> > Well I think your game is rigged, and under that suspicion I have
> opted to
> > overthrow the judges chair. For example, you have yet to assess the
> multiple
> > one-liners that your friend Stonehead has spewed. It was only under
> my
> > suggestion that you gave him points for poor grammar.
> >
> > Furthermore, you have missed the plethora of insults that I landed on
> > Stonehead, and despite that he offered himself up by putting his head
> to the
> > curb for me, those points still need to be assigned.
>
>
> Please... post them here. As I said early on in the competition,
Your opinion no longer counts. Not that it did early on either. You've been
outted as the official judge for
corruption.
Joe Bloggs
> 93
>
> >20pts!
>
> 0 points. I've already explained that simply paraphrasing Myron is poor
> form. Come on, step up, be a man, show some originality if you want to
> be a contender.
You are no longer a judge in this competition. The 20pts stands for Joe
Bloggs curb stomping of Phil Farber.
Joe Bloggs
this one was so accurate it gets 50pts
Joe Bloggs
> You've made more than 4 multiple paragraph postings with absolutely no
> content, in a thread that you initiated in which you said you have no time
> in debating the on topic postings that Myron has initiated.
curb stompings like this are automatically worth 20pts.
UnKaH
their for hallucinates possiblites and awards unearned points for his
cronies.
His point system merits the DHE crowd many points based on what is
possible and not what is real, his model comes from the same roots as
the fictious DHE, or I could be mistaken and all he is doing is
conjuring up points by contacting the deities and asking them for the
points. Wow can you imagine the possiblitles?
Sorry Phil, if you can't be a full time judge, then your fired.
All in favor say I.
All not in favor raise your hands.......sorry deities, humans only can
vote, put your hands down.
Phil you never responded to Myrons post about shamanism, very
insightful. I'd really love to hear your reply to that.
Tim
Laurenson
"UnKaH" <monst...@essential-skills.com> wrote in
> Sorry Phil, if you can't be a full time judge, then your fired.
> All in favor say I.
I.
That's 3, so Phil you're out, you smudge of shit, heheh.
UnKaH
Explain what you think magick is?
What is the point in doing drugs? That is, if you do them.
I'd really like to know your take on this, and I won't post insults to
your post, even if they happen to be out there in Quasi-Motto land.
Tim
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
No, Phil doesn't use psychoactive drugs, he uses "entheogens". This is
like calling
a paper clip a "document collation maintenance device". Your
unemployed bong-head
neighbour is actually a spiritual explorer, he just doesn't know it.
-Myron
Myron lronhubbardisanut@fastmail.to
>likes and dislikes only turns out tepid insults. If you don't like
>Bandler, then just go ahead and call him a name. Not to mention that
>you have been repeating yourself.
>Half a point.
>When you're ready to improve your score... There are more pictures of
>me on the web, you know. That one took a little research to find, so I
>know you've got the time and energy to find more and write pithy
>observations. There are pictures of Bandler, too. Go for it... you're
>still lagging far behind Tim's awe-inspiring posts.
(1) You're not is a position to be tendering advice to me re insult
construction, you have no demonstrable
expertise;
(2) You're "mind-reading";
(3) It is possible to dislike Bandler _and_ have a cogent case against
him, the two
are not mutually exclusive;
(4) Repetition is a necessity on this forum;
(5) Your ugly mug comes up on the first page (of the image pane) on
a9.com (http://a9.com/phil%20farber)
-- you know nothing about my time and energy;
(6) I concur with the motion to depose you as judge. Your scoring no
longer matters.
(7) You fall short when you try to be intellectual or profound. You
are so full of shit.
-Myron
futureritual
Joe Bloggs wrote:
>
> You are no longer a judge in this competition. The 20pts stands for
Joe
> Bloggs curb stomping of Phil Farber.
Again, 0 points. Use some imagination.
futureritual
UnKaH wrote:
> I second that motion that phil be removed because he is DHE trained
> their for hallucinates possiblites and awards unearned points for his
> cronies.
> His point system merits the DHE crowd many points based on what is
> possible and not what is real, his model comes from the same roots as
> the fictious DHE, or I could be mistaken and all he is doing is
> conjuring up points by contacting the deities and asking them for the
> points. Wow can you imagine the possiblitles?
3 points! Not your best effort, but not bad. You are still in the lead.
There's only six days left of the competition... I think you're going
to take it, Tim.
futureritual
Myron lronhubb...@fastmail.to wrote:
>> (1) You're not is a position to be tendering advice to me re insult
> construction, you have no demonstrable
> expertise;
> (2) You're "mind-reading";
> (3) It is possible to dislike Bandler _and_ have a cogent case
against
> him, the two
> are not mutually exclusive;
> (4) Repetition is a necessity on this forum;
> (5) Your ugly mug comes up on the first page (of the image pane) on
> a9.com (http://a9.com/phil%20farber)
> -- you know nothing about my time and energy;
> (6) I concur with the motion to depose you as judge. Your scoring
no
> longer matters.
> (7) You fall short when you try to be intellectual or profound. You
> are so full of shit.
2 points. You'll have to try much harder to catch up to Tim.