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D@nvmvnvmvn.com Jake D

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Feb 11, 2008, 8:04:57 AM2/11/08
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Anyone know anything about this and what it suggests? For months, my
nights have been dominated by dreams that are pervaded with feelings
of doom, gloom and pessimism. This 'black cloud' hangs over me well
into the day after I wake up, too.

Pehaps it's a case of "you reap what you sow"; and perhaps I have
subconsciously planted too many seeds of gloom into my unconscious
mind. Or perhaps I'm just having a late mid-life crisis.

Any thoughts on this? Any leads to any info/books or whatever?

Many thanks,

JD

Day Brown

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Feb 11, 2008, 3:25:16 PM2/11/08
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Maybe you are paying attention subconsciously to global politics and
economics? If you are not worried about the state of the world, you
aint paying attention.

Are you better off since Reagan asked the question?

JakeD

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Feb 12, 2008, 2:11:27 PM2/12/08
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:25:16 -0800 (PST), Day Brown
<dayb...@hughes.net> wrote:

>Maybe you are paying attention subconsciously to global politics and
>economics? If you are not worried about the state of the world, you
>aint paying attention.

It's true; I do pay attention to politics and economics and yes, I am
somewhat worried about the future.

>Are you better off since Reagan asked the question?

Which question?

JD

Day Brown

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Feb 13, 2008, 1:45:55 PM2/13/08
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On Feb 12, 2:11 pm, JakeD <Ja...@n3ddfdfdf2223n.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:25:16 -0800 (PST), Day Brown
>
> <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote:
> >Maybe you are paying attention subconsciously to global politics and
> >economics? If you are not worried about the state of the world, you
> >aint paying attention.
>
> It's true; I do pay attention to politics and economics and yes, I am
> somewhat worried about the future.
>
> >Are you better off since Reagan asked the question?
>
> Which question?
>
> JD

Maybe you are not old enuf to remember. Reagan asked:" Are you better
off than you were 4 years ago?" (Before Carter got elected)
Carter, if you recall, discussed the "American Malaise". He knew there
was something fundamentally wrong with the system. Reagan applied a
palliative, borrowing trillions from global investors trying to build
the economy, but it took the more calculating eye of Clinton to
actually make it work. For a while.

There is lotsa data that has come in since, which include the
deleterious effects on childhood mental development from:
1- dietary deficit and contamination.
2- increasing exposure to pathogens that are evolving to become more
problematic.
3- environmental exposure.

This is born out in lab tests with rats and demographic results. For
instance, the national autism rate in 1:155; in my neck of Ozark
woods, where there are many more organic farmers and gardeners, the
rate is more like 1:4000, and among the Amish, whose communties are
entirely based on what we'd call "organic farming", the rate is
1:15,000.

Raising kids on sugar cereal, junkfood, and soda has not worked out
very well. This is also born out by the bloodwork on the biochemistry
of the mind with abnormal levels of hormones that affect mood and
behavior. Depression can often be cured by simply changing to a
healthy diet and adding physical exercise. Which organic gardeners get
both of. It turns out the ancient sages, of both Oriental and
Occidental, were correct; the best life has to offer is tending a
garden.

JakeD

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Feb 13, 2008, 2:02:00 PM2/13/08
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:45:55 -0800 (PST), Day Brown
<dayb...@hughes.net> wrote:

> It turns out the ancient sages, of both Oriental and
>Occidental, were correct; the best life has to offer is tending a
>garden.

I tend to agree, especially regarding forms of work. Whenever I work
in my garden, it seems therapeutic and somehow nourishing. I just
happen to garden organically too, so this work also leaves me with a
clean conscience.

JD

Day Brown

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Feb 14, 2008, 3:01:09 AM2/14/08
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There's a lotta science behind it Jake. The stomachs of bog bodies and
the bone middens show ancient Europeans ate 100 different wild plants
and animals. That provided a wide variety of trace minerals and
micronutrients from natual soil that are not in what agribusiness
sells.

One of the cures for depression is to do something about it, and the
kind of organic gardening you do goes a long ways twards restoring the
natural mineral balance in your body that you can expect will have a
leveling effect on mood swings and sleep habits. Bear in mind too,
that this low light time of the year inclines Native Europeans to need
more sleep. It wont be long before the rigors of the garden season
will be upon us again, but now its time to rest up a little more.

i dont argue that shrinks have not been effective with severe mental
distress; but as one moves more twards mental functionality, their
tool chest of meds becomes less reliable; the effects are just not
severe enough to assess usefulness.

cybercat

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Feb 26, 2008, 12:22:58 AM2/26/08
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"Jake D" <Jake D...@nvmvnvmvn.com> wrote in message
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What are you worried about? It's natural to worry.


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