Daft. Daft as a Brush. Praise be the Lord
Werewolfy
By Nick Pisa in Perugia
Published: 6:00AM GMT 23 Nov 2009
The Pope, who died five years ago, is being considered for sainthood
by the Catholic Church.
As part of the Vatican's investigation thousands of documents have
been collected and examined by officials from the Congregation for the
Causes of Saints.
Among them is the testimony of Tobiana Sobodka, a Polish nun of the
Sacred Heart of Jesus order, who worked for Pope John Paul in his
private Vatican apartments and at his summer residence in Castel
Gandolfo near Rome.
Sister Sobodka said: "Several times he (Pope John Paul) would put
himself through bodily penance.
"We would hear it – we were in the next room at Castel Gandolfo. You
could hear the sound of the blows when he flagellate himself. He did
it when he was still capable of moving on his own."
The flagellation is also confirmed by another bishop who has given
testimony. Emery Kabongo was a secretary for Pope John Paul.
"He would punish himself and in particular just before he ordained
bishops and priests," he said.
"I never actually saw it myself but several people told me about it."
Self flagellation is sometimes used by devoted Catholics as it reminds
them of the whipping endured by Christ at the hands of the Romans
before he was crucified.
It is still common in the Philippines and Latin America, some members
of strict monastic orders and some members of the lay organisation
Opus Dei – who feature in the Dan Brown blockbuster The Da Vinci Code.
In the film – which was condemned by the Vatican – murderous Albino
monk Silas, who is a member of Opus Dei is seen in a brutal scene
whipping his back and drawing blood as he prays on his knees.
A Vatican spokesman said: "The investigation and documentation is
still secret and as such we can make no comment on it until the final
report is published.
"I know that the nun in question has returned to Poland and she would
have spoken with the Congregation as she was with an order that worked
in the apartments of Pope John Paul."
The Congregation for the Causes of Saints has been investigating the
case for Pope John Paul since he died and has approved the late pope's
"heroic virtues" and the paperwork has been sent to his German
successor.
The late Polish pope's beatification is expected to take place
sometime next year, perhaps in April, to coincide with the fifth
anniversary of his death or in October to coincide with his election
in 1978.
Woodswun
Agreed. He was nuts, and so are those who think it's admirable to
cause harm to anyone. (Oddly, suicide is a cardinal sin!!)
Woods
Doc
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Pope John Paul II 'whipped himself in remorse for sins'
By Nick Pisa in Perugia
Published: 6:00AM GMT 23 Nov 2009
The Pope, who died five years ago, is being considered for sainthood
by the Catholic Church.
As part of the Vatican's investigation thousands of documents have
been collected and examined by officials from the Congregation for the
Causes of Saints.
Among them is the testimony of Tobiana Sobodka, a Polish nun of the
Sacred Heart of Jesus order, who worked for Pope John Paul in his
private Vatican apartments and at his summer residence in Castel
Gandolfo near Rome.
Sister Sobodka said: "Several times he (Pope John Paul) would put
himself through bodily penance.
"We would hear it � we were in the next room at Castel Gandolfo. You
could hear the sound of the blows when he flagellate himself. He did
it when he was still capable of moving on his own."
The flagellation is also confirmed by another bishop who has given
testimony. Emery Kabongo was a secretary for Pope John Paul.
"He would punish himself and in particular just before he ordained
bishops and priests," he said.
"I never actually saw it myself but several people told me about it."
Self flagellation is sometimes used by devoted Catholics as it reminds
them of the whipping endured by Christ at the hands of the Romans
before he was crucified.
It is still common in the Philippines and Latin America, some members
of strict monastic orders and some members of the lay organisation
Opus Dei � who feature in the Dan Brown blockbuster The Da Vinci Code.
In the film � which was condemned by the Vatican � murderous Albino
monk Silas, who is a member of Opus Dei is seen in a brutal scene
whipping his back and drawing blood as he prays on his knees.
A Vatican spokesman said: "The investigation and documentation is
still secret and as such we can make no comment on it until the final
report is published.
"I know that the nun in question has returned to Poland and she would
have spoken with the Congregation as she was with an order that worked
in the apartments of Pope John Paul."
The Congregation for the Causes of Saints has been investigating the
case for Pope John Paul since he died and has approved the late pope's
"heroic virtues" and the paperwork has been sent to his German
successor.
The late Polish pope's beatification is expected to take place
sometime next year, perhaps in April, to coincide with the fifth
anniversary of his death or in October to coincide with his election
in 1978.
As soon as I get through laughing my ass off, I'll comment...
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