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Jan 7, 2010, 10:56:41 AM1/7/10
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UFO shock for former Radnorshire RAF man
Published date: 07 January 2010 | Published by: Chris Corfield

A RADNORSHIRE man has spoken of his shock at seeing a series of unidentified
flying objects (UFOs) in the night sky.


Ken Saunders, 75, from St Harmon, described three pairs of large orange orbs
travelling at high speed 300 feet above his house.


"It was eerie, that's the only way of describing it," he said; "People
obviously think you're mad when you say things like this but I know what I
saw and I'm not likely to be telling fibs at my age!"


It was New Year's Eve when the sighting occurred. Mr Saunders recalls how he
and his wife had gone to bed early, only for his wife to be woken up close
to midnight by the sound of the couple's three cats wailing loudly.

He went to investigate, and noticed the strange lights in the sky. She
called to her husband, who didn't come at first. However, as her calls
became more urgent, Mr Saunders thought he should go an investigate.


What he saw in the sky that night shocked him: "There were two orange 'balls'
in the sky, one immediately after the other.


"They were around 25 yards apart from each other, approximately 300 foot
above us. It was a clear, starry night so they were there plain as day. We
had a great view of them.


"The lights passed silently above us, and we were just about to move away
when another identical pair went overhead. There were three pairs of these
lights in total, one pair that alerted my wife and two more pairs that I saw
myself.


"What was even more bizarre was how all the lights were a bright orange
colour, apart from the final one which was a strong red colour.


"The size of the lights was unbelievable. Each one looked to be around 30-50
feet in diameter, they were going at quite some velocity with no visible
means of propulsion - yet in complete silence.


"I have never seen anything like it in my life. It shook me to the core - I
don't like things that can't be explained."


Unsure of what to do next, Mr Saunders called the police, but was
unimpressed with their response: "I think they have a stock response for
things like this, which is to say it was probably Chinese lanterns.


"I can tell you with certainty that what I saw that night was not lanterns,"
he said.
Mr Saunders contacted his son, who works as a police officer at New Scotland
Yard. Clearly worried, he explained what he had seen and was told by his son
that these occurances aren't uncommon, and that hundreds of similar cases
had been reported. A lot of these cases also coincide with reports of
mutilated cattle in fields close to confirmed sightings.


The shaken pensioner, a former police officer, said how he was told while
serving with the RAF in 1953 that UFOs not only existed, but there was a
special division within the force to research them.


He has kept an open mind ever since: "I believe it is arrogant of humans to
think that we are the only living, breathing, thinking organisms in the
universe.

"What I saw on New Year's Eve only makes for a stronger belief in the
unknown. I won't say I wasn't at least a little bit scared, I was wary about
going outside again immediately afterwards, but the whole thing was also
very exciting."

http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/83537/ufo-shock-for-former-radnorshire-raf-man.aspx

It seems almost every time UFOs are seen, officials resort to explaining
them as Chinese lanterns. My God, there must be a huge lucrative market
there for those things...LOL!

Doc

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Jan 7, 2010, 12:51:02 PM1/7/10
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> http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/83537/ufo-shock-for-former-radnorsh...

>
> It seems almost every time UFOs are seen, officials resort to explaining
> them as Chinese lanterns. My God, there must be a huge lucrative market
> there for those things...LOL!
>
> Doc

"It was New Year's Eve when the sighting occurred."

That say's it all really. Anyway, Powys is full of inbred cretins
called 'Welshmen', who watch sheep all day and drink all night.
'Taffy's' are...unreliable.

Werewolfy

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Jan 8, 2010, 10:31:14 AM1/8/10
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"Werewolfy" <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Werewolfy

Well, whatever you see the local yokels as, my point is that the actual
description, if accurate, doesn't even remotely match the behavior of a
meteor.
Perhaps, it was a burning sky lantern or a hoax.
My irritation is that supposedly knowledgeable folks will simply ignore the
essential sighting data and give pat answers. Anyone into astronomy should
know that a meteor cannot stay in sight more than a few seconds.
Doc

Werewolfy

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:09:55 PM1/8/10
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On 8 Jan, 15:31, "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, whatever you see the local yokels as, my point is that the actual
> description, if accurate, doesn't even remotely match the behavior of a
> meteor.
> Perhaps, it was a burning sky lantern or a hoax.
> My irritation is that supposedly knowledgeable folks will simply ignore the
> essential sighting data and give pat answers. Anyone into astronomy should
> know that a meteor cannot stay in sight more than a few seconds.

Couldn't agree more. Can't be a meteorite from the given description.

But I'm puzzled. Who has said it 'might have been one?' Having re-read
the post twice, the only mention of it being a meteorite, is from you,
Doc!

Werewolfy


Doc

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Jan 8, 2010, 3:39:09 PM1/8/10
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"Werewolfy" <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Woops, I was referring to the other UFO under "This ain't a meteor, damnit!"
LOL!
As for THIS sighting, either the man's veracity can be challenged, or if we
take his observation to be accurate and truthful, then it doesn't appear
these objects are sky lanterns. Many times, I've read UFO reports that occur
on th 4th of July or New Year's, and it is natural, of course, to assume
that the things were fireworks or part of the celebration.
Yet, there is also the possibility that truly unusual phenomena don't take a
rest on our major holidays. LOL!!
We've all experienced some kind of paranormal phenomena, and I've yet to
encounter a person who said they never did have an 'unexplained incident'
involving appartitions, foreknowledge through dreams, disembodied voices,
etc.
I was watching a documentary a few days ago on ghosts that noted that many
encounters occur when people are waking up, having trouble sleeping, under
extreme stress, etc.
That could explain some of the paranormal -- that is, that our brains just
overload, short circuit so to speak, and produce hallucinatory images and
sounds. I know I had three waking dream hallucinations back in the 80s that
paralyzed my body while some unseen shuffling, heavily breathing monster
lumbered about my house. I was under much stress during those experiences.
I guess I could've just filled in the blanks and assumed it was a creature
from another dimension, a poltergeist, or a demon. But, I know definitely it
was not, yet it was so very, very real in every aspect, and had I taken a
polygraph test then, I'd passed it easily when asked "Did an invisible
entity visit you and paralyze your body?" LOLOL! I'd said YES!
Now, I'd say NO.
Doc ;))~
>
>

Werewolfy

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:02:44 PM1/8/10
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On 8 Jan, 20:39, "Doc" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:

"...that paralyzed my body while some unseen shuffling, heavily
breathing monster lumbered about my house..."

That could well have been Steven.

Yes, I've had a couple or so odd experiences too. One also involved an
orange ball of light. This one, however, was wandering in the house;
having entered via the chimney. About the size of a football, and
emitting a quite eerie orange light. I was young, but I know exactly
what I saw...and felt.

It was ascribed as being Ball Lightning, and I expect it was. But Ball
Lightning is itself a very odd phenomena with little really known
about it.

It left the room when I opened a window. Just swooped out and a few
seconds later, exploded, leaving a strong smell of sulpher. Whilst it
hovered, wandering the room, I was positive the damned thing was
sentient...still am.

Yes, it was bizarre and without rational explanation. It was also a
ball, and also orange in colour.

Nothing will ever convince me to dismiss the belief that it was
sentient though. Did I make it appear and vanish in a puff of
sulpherous smoke? I don't know. But it was real, present and
'watching'. I am positive of that. it hovered and it watched.

Werewolfy

Doc

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Jan 8, 2010, 10:25:11 PM1/8/10
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"Werewolfy" <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The smell of sulphur is sometimes reported in manifestations of so-called
demons. Yes, if the light, whether interpreted as a spirit or a space ship,
has its own intelligence, then we share the planet with at least one other
intelligence, other than animal. Or...is it more like an animal? Curious
like so many animals?
It seems the religions of all history must've been partly influenced by such
experiences as we have today. I believe these phenomena have been here as
long as we have, perhaps before if it is external.
Balls of light are reported, for example, in our state around my birthplace,
Yakima, mainly on the Native American reservation just south of the city. In
the summer of 1967, my dad, his wife, myself, and two neighbors watched an
orange ball of light south (likely over the reservation), hovering, moving
back and forth, circling, and then fading as it rose upward. It was in sight
for at least 15 minutes or so, and was then reported in the news the next
morning. Many had seen not only that one, but reported other UFO phenomena
of various descriptions.
The Yakima lights have been seen since the 1800s, and if they are space
ships, then they must love cavorting about in the same areas for decades. I
believe they are not, and these things are some kind of natural
phenomena...but does it have consciousness, or is it being directed by our
mental energy? The Yakima lights have done what your orange ball did --
hover near a witness or follow them for awhile. One man waved his arms at a
ball of light, and it reacted as perhaps an animal would, by moving away and
then circling him. It seemed curious and playful.
If the being I experienced was Steven, I think it must've been grossly
overweight, because I could hear the wood floors creaking under its weight.
I imagined it to be massive, and warned it not to come into my bedroom or
I'd shoot it dead. It was a bluff, of course. I had no guns back then. When
I began to move my body, I immediately checked the door and found it locked.
My first thought was that I'd been visited by a poltergeist or a demon. But,
there was no sulphurous odor. Just the smell of cold sweat. It was
terrifying, and I checked the library and found material on waking dreams,
and then began to accept that it had all originated from my mind.
Doc ;))~

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