Calm urged after N Korea missiles
Page last updated at 15:31 GMT, Saturday, 4 July 2009 16:31 UK
Russia, China and the US have all called for calm after North Korea
test-fired a series of missiles.
Seven Scud-type ballistic missiles with a range of about 500km (312
miles) were fired in an apparent act of defiance against the US, on 4
July.
Russia and China called on Pyongyang to return to talks, while a US
official urged it not to aggravate tensions.
North Korea is banned from all ballistic missile-related activities
under UN sanctions.
The sanctions were strengthened after the communist nation carried out
a second underground nuclear test in May.
North Korea has launched a number of missiles since the test. On
Thursday it fired four short-range missiles.
'Not helpful'
Saturday's launches came from a base on its east coast. Three were
fired in the morning, a fourth around noon local time and three more
in the afternoon, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said.
The missiles fell into the Sea of Japan, known in South Korea as the
East Sea.
South Korean officials said some of the missiles could have been
medium-range Nodongs - which have the range to strike Japan - but that
their flight distances had been deliberately shortened, Yonhap news
agency said.
Both South Korea and Japan called the launches an "act of
provocation".
A spokesman for the US state department called them "not helpful" and
said North Korea should " refrain from actions that aggravate tensions
and focus on denuclearization talks".
Russia and China called on all parties to show restraint and avoid
actions which could further destabilize the situation, the Russian
Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
British Foreign Secretary David Miliband condemned the launches and
said it was vital that "tension on the Korean peninsula [was] kept at
manageable levels".
Ties between North Korea and the outside world have grown extremely
tense since it walked away from six-nation talks aimed at ending its
nuclear program.
It subsequently said it would "weaponize" its plutonium stocks and
start enriching uranium, prompting fears that it is working to produce
nuclear warheads small enough to put on missiles - though analysts say
it could take a long time to do so.
On 12 June the UN Security Council approved a resolution allowing
inspection of air, sea and land shipments in and out of North Korea
suspected of carrying banned arms and weapons-related material.
The North has said it will treat any interception of its ships as a
declaration of war.
Some analysts suggest Pyongyang's bellicosity could be linked to
internal issues, amid questions over the health of leader Kim Jong-il
after his apparent stroke last year.
Reports suggest he has named his youngest son as his successor - and
some believe the nuclear and missiles tests could be a show of
strength aimed at securing internal support for his plans.
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HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
Why does everyone seem so scared to do anything about N Korea. They
blatantly break the rules and all I can see that the world is doing (and the
same with Iran) is talking instead of taking action. If you have a naughty
kid and you keep shouting at him to no effect when he's done wrong and then
he ignores you and keeps being naughty eventually you have to smakck him to
get your message accross don't you? While they keep talking they keep on
developing.
Because the naughty kid has enough artillery to level Seoul in a
relatively short period of time.
Tho I'm sure N. Korea could be broken fairly quickly, with neutron
bombs and more conventional countermeasures (S Korean soldiers
historically being some of the best fighters in the world0 mass damage
to S. Korean population centers wiould likely be unavoidable.
> Why does everyone seem so scared to do anything about N Korea. �They
> blatantly break the rules and all I can see that the world is doing (and the
> same with Iran) is talking instead of taking action. �If you have a naughty
> kid and you keep shouting at him to no effect when he's done wrong and then
> he ignores you and keeps being naughty eventually you have to smakck him to
> get your message accross don't you? �While they keep talking they keep on
> developing
Who exactly is it that has voted you, or any other person or Nation,
'guardian of the World?'
You must be American to be so naive and dictatorial. If N Korea wants
to make big bangy bombs, then that is their decision; so too Iran, or
any other Nation.
When you no longer have such weapons, perhaps then you might be in a
position to petition against their production.
Werewolfy
> Kicking your ass in two wars, and saving your ass in two others gave us the �
> right to call you a bitch
HO HO HO
American delusions of grandeur and yet again, the standard mis-use of
warfare history to claim supremacy.
Read some History about both wars, Sunshine.
Call me what you like..makes no difference. You are NOT the World's
Dictator..and never will be. Play in your little Disneyland world,
fatty.
Werewolfy
Sunshine? LMAO. You wouldn not have survived Hitler if not for the allies
coming to your aid.
>Call me what you like..makes no difference. You are NOT the World's
>Dictator..and never will be. Play in your little Disneyland world,
>fatty.
>
>Werewolfy
LMFAO , rotten tooth guy.
"LMFAO , � rotten tooth guy."
Does that acronym stand for, 'Laughs my fat ass off?" How appropriate.
Stuff another few MacDonalds tasteless rubbish into your 'G MAN'
mouth, 'Winnie the Pooh'...HO HO HO
Winnie the Pooh...G MAN
HO HO HO
Werewolfy
> Sunshine? LMAO. �You wouldn not have survived Hitler if not for the allies
> coming to your aid.
Yes, it was helpful of the Canadian and Australian Forces. We seem to
have missed you whilst repelling Hitler during the battle of Britain
though.
You were too busy watching Cartoons I suppose.
In fact, didn't see anything of you until 1942 when Germany declared
war on the US. Hiding away were you?
Have those N Korea missiles arrived yet? I live in such great
hope.....fatty.
Werewolfy
Why is it that the West harshly criticizes military testing when the US, for
example, fires off missiles every year over oceanic regions? One can see
that the North Koreans have shortened the range of their test fires, and no
credible threat has occurred to either S. Korea or Japan, as territorial
integrity has been respected.
As with Iran, any violation of sovereign air space with a LOADED missile
would likely bring on a defensive or retaliatory response, but, to date,
there is no evidence any missile N. Korea has launched had a warhead in the
one or two territorial breaches reported.
I dont' for a moment believe that these are solely test fires, but are
politically motivated, to help get negotiations that favor them, despite the
illogic and potential risk. Obviously, timing a launch on July 4th was
deliberately smarty of them, but they've done it before.
I've been hearing these scare stories since I was a kid, decades ago, and,
so far, minor confrontations and alerts have distilled down to nothing of
significance militarily, but, perhaps, politically strategic in some
instances.
I worry much more about dopes like Bush getting into office, thinking the
apocalypse is a future event, and having such fantastical concepts influence
their use of military force -- the most powerful and destructive on the
planet. I think it is significant and hopeful that Obama has used restraint
and not moved additional US naval forces to the Peninsula, but has beefed up
defensive forces around Hawaii, I understand. Bush would've sent a small
flotilla to the area by now, agitating the situation, with Cheney bellowing
out warnings of a nuke holocaust. The Vandenberg test fire a week ago went
almost unnoticed in the US press, although the USS John McCain's tracking of
a N. Korean cargo ship bound for Indonesia made some news, with McCain, Jr.,
advocating the US board the ship and search it. That was turned down by
Obama who has argued that it would provoke N. Korea, and that no firm
evidence exists of alleged illegal arms contents. Similar concerns about N.
Korean arms shipments resulted in trackings (but no boardings) by the US in
1992 under Bush, Sr., along India's and SE Asias' coastlines, believed bound
for Iran, which was not embargoed under UN law. This time, it could be
simply a ruse to get the US to react for propaganda purposes that'd well
serve N. Korea, not us. We'd look pretty stupid if no arms were found, and
since our intel isn't exactly perfect (LOL!)...well, I think Obama's doing
the right thing.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/1992/920310-218992.htm
Doc
U.S. Air Force Test Fires Missile From California Base
Monday, June 29, 2009
VANDENBERG AIR FORCE BASE, California - The Air Force successfully launched
an unarmed Minuteman 3 intercontinental ballistic missile Monday from the
California coast to an area in the Pacific Ocean some 4,200 miles away.
The ICBM was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base near Santa Barbara at
3:01 a.m. and carried three unarmed re-entry vehicles to their targets near
the Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands, said Lt. Raymond Geoffroy.
The missile, configured with a National Nuclear Security Administration Test
Assembly, was launched under the direction of the 576th Flight Test
Squadron, whose members installed tracking and command destruct systems on
it to collect data and meet safety requirements.
"It's really something when you see a truly outstanding team come together,"
Col. David Buck, 30th Space Wing commander, said in a written statement. "I
couldn't think of a better team to demonstrate the awesome capability of our
ICBM fleet."
On clear mornings the missiles in such tests can be seen as far away as Los
Angeles 140 miles away, but a foggy coast Monday made the missile difficult
to see even in the immediate area, Geoffroy said.
The Air Force says the launch was an operational test to check the weapon
system's reliability and accuracy, and the data will be used by United
States Strategic Command planners and Department of Energy laboratories.
"These are dangerous times we're living in right now," Lt. Col. Lesa K.
Toler, commander of the 576th, said in a statement. "It's extremely
important our combatant commander has the capabilities he needs to perform
the mission of fighting and winning our nation's wars."
a.. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529393,00.html?test=latestnews
>
> "John Lemke" <jfl...@locallink.net> wrote in message
> news:e1b37f7b-9266-45a3...@g7g2000prg.googlegroups.com..
Heh.. I suppose this might frighten the NKoreans. Little do they
know we have airborne and space-based energy (laser and other em
based) weapons that can destroy their missiles as they're leaving
the launch pad. Hitting them back with a missile, even hitting a
missile with another missile, is so last decade. We've got phasers
now.. we can obliterate them from orbit !
> Heh.. I suppose this might frighten the NKoreans. Little do they
> know we have airborne and space-based energy (laser and other em
> based) weapons that can destroy their missiles as they're leaving
> the launch pad. Hitting them back with a missile, even hitting a
> missile with another missile, is so last decade. We've got phasers
> now.. we can obliterate them from orbit !
Doc should have added your name to the fears of 'silly responses' like
Bush might have made.
You are exactly like the ex preident in your warmongering outlook.
Go and buy yourself some more fucking guns.
Werewolfy
> the right thing.http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/1992/920310-21899...
>
> Doc
Well put, Doc.
Werewolfy
"At least we can"
You could also put the barrel into your mouth and pull the trigger.
Werewolfy
woofy is still angry about the American Revolution.. hey woofy,
you lost, get over it, you old fart stain.. hahahahaha!
> woofy is still angry about the American Revolution.. hey woofy,
> you lost, get over it, you old fart stain.. hahahahaha!-
And how are all your other little friends in the kindergarten today,
Andy Pandy?
Werewolfy
Everybody says they think you're a pig woofy. Tell us all what it's
like being widely despised. So far stephen is the only one I know
who can speak from experience on this. You seem to be making up
for lost time though.
How pleasing. At least I am me; although I don't suppose you know how
to use Christian John's remote server in Poland at alt.pl.zbluzgaj
Now off you go and have a nice chat with 'Marcia Law'.
Like little children.
Werewolfy
What? Because three or four usenet posters despise me, I'm "widely"
despised? Sheesh, is this group your entire world, or what? There's a
whole big world out there, Randy. Get a life.
>> Everybody says they think you're a pig woofy. Tell us all what it's
>> like being widely despised. So far stephen is the only one I know
>> who can speak from experience on this. You seem to be making up
>> for lost time though.
>
> How pleasing. At least I am me;
..and what an impressive conversationist you are..
So woofy, are you a pig, or a man ? Inquiring minds want to know,
because people can't tell the difference.
> So woofy, are you a pig, or a man ? Inquiring minds want to know,
> because people can't tell the difference.
Only the most uneducated of people are unable to distinguish between a
Man and a Pig...or a Giraffe, or perhaps a Mountain Goat.
Those 'enquiring minds' have much to enquire about, if that is their
concern.
Werewolfy
Come on woofy, it's a simple question. Are you a man or a pig ?
"Come on woofy, it's a simple question. Are you a man or a pig ?"
Exactly what part of, " Only the most uneducated of people are unable
to distinguish between a
Man and a Pig...or a Giraffe, or perhaps a Mountain Goat." did you
fail to understand?
Werewolfy
Your failure to answer such a simple question can mean only one thing..
peoples' opinion that you are a pig is correct.. woofy the pig.. the
woof-pig..
woofy le cochon
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/sounds/stuck_pi[1]-1.wav
> Your failure to answer such a simple question can mean only one thing..
> peoples' opinion that you are a pig is correct.. woofy the pig.. the
> woof-pig..
Your failure to understand my response places you in the uneducated
and most foolish of people. Even moronic individuals are capable of
animal identification.
But we all knew that about you, anyway. Your 'weapons' are limited to
the sticks and stones of calling names...exactly as a small child in a
tantrum might. Call away, who care? I certainly don't.
You really are so childish. Still, if that makes you happy, who am I
to interfere in your play-time fun.
Isn't it time to build some sandcastles, or paddle in the Sea...or
something?
Werewolfy
Give us a little oink woofy.. woofy le cochon..
Where's your little giggling punk friend John to join in on this,
Randy? Why are you standing alone with this newest bout of
childishness? Because NO ONE thinks this is funny, Randy. Well, the
punk John probably does, but he won't admit it. It will be interesting
to see which of the posters on our group take you seriously after
this. Whoever they are, it will say a lot about them if they continue
to take you seriously now.
"Give us a little oink woofy.. woofy le cochon"
It's obvious to everyone now. You are retarded. That isn't intended
as any form of insult, just stating a fact.
Werewolfy
Stop sniveling woofy.. grow up and be a man..
Stop sniveling woofy.. grow up and be a man..
Let's dicuss 'being a man'.
E Mail me your home telephone number.
Let's see how much of a 'man' you are.
Werewolfy
I'm in the phone book woofy.. dig for it.. Can we assume you've
fallen off the wagon ? How manly of you.. such self-control..
> I'm in the phone book woofy.. dig for it.. Can we assume you've
> fallen off the wagon ? How manly of you.. such self-control..
I'll tell you when we 'talk'.
In the meantime, you will have to say which part of America you are
from. So many Randolph Foreman entries.
Give me the town, and yes, I'll 'dig for it'. Or you could simply e
mail it to me and how how much of a 'man' you really are.
Time to back up your words Sunshine.
Werewolfy
Oh...ooooh... Have Sledgehammer Will Travel!
Move over, Richard Boone.
If I were you, Perseid, I'd quit now and, instead, discuss with Wolfy how
Slinky's godly righteous America is sinking into a sleazy slime pool, while
its dizzy, dumb denizens get increasingly irrational, childish...and
violent.
I propose to help break this stalemate of mutually poisonous sarcasm and
personal affronts, and suggest Wolfy re-emphasize his previously frequent
entertaining anti-American satire, even at the risk of alienating his
new-found pal, Slinky.
Perhaps, then, you two tongue-snapping bloodletting warriors can find a
common ground. The sledgehammer can be laid to rest. And peace can be
restored to APN, for a short time.
Doc ;))~
>
So, Randy, since you're inviting Ricky to look you up, will you give
me permission to tell Ricky where you live?
Let me explain something to you, dimwit. There are many topics on
which Ricky and I will never agree. What you can't seem to understand
is that people can disagree with out *hating* each other. You don't
seem to be able to do that. You must *hate* someone with whom you
disagree. You're a very limited personality, Docko. A very limited
intellect. Just a very limited human being. And yet I offered to make
peace with you some time ago, and you threw it in my face. Typical of
radical leftists.
>
> "Werewolfy" <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:9694996b-0a80-40e8...@h11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com.
> ..
>> On 10 July, 03:20, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Stop sniveling woofy.. grow up and be a man..
>>
>> Let's dicuss 'being a man'.
>>
>> E Mail me your home telephone number.
>>
>> Let's see how much of a 'man' you are.
>>
>> Werewolfy
>
> Oh...ooooh... Have Sledgehammer Will Travel!
>
> Move over, Richard Boone.
>
> If I were you, Perseid, I'd quit now
Quit what ? Woofy has invented a new enemy and I'm sure he'll follow
me around for awhile thinking that this makes him appear more manly
(and he does seem to have quite a lot of time on his hands). He's
the only one angry. What he's angry about is still an open mystery.
I suspect it's an alcoholic personality that puts him into a rage
over the slightest things, but who knows.
> I'm in the phone book woofy.. dig for it.. Can we assume you've
> fallen off the wagon ? How manly of you.. such self-control..
Ah, so you wish to mock my daily fight against alcoholism too. After
21 years of abstinence the craving remains, the will and the
temperence also remain.
But you have not answered Steven. I'll remind you. He asked you, "So,
Randy, since you're inviting Ricky to look you up, will you give me
permission to tell Ricky where you live?"
Note that. Despite all of your taunts against Steven, he has the class
to mention he know your address, and to ask you if it is allowed to
reveal it to me.
Class which is absent in you.
So; you can provide the information in order that I can identify your
telephone number..or you could simply give permission to Steven to
pass those details to me.
You want to dicuss 'things' about me. I want to help you in that.
ANSWER THE QUESTION SUNSHINE. WHICH FUCKING CITY?
Werewolfy
Ho, ho, ho, ho...what your limited mind can't accept is that two
ideologically different notables, Obama and Ayers, or Wright and Obama, can
disagree, and still be friends. And, further, that they SHOULD always be
friends. Friendship isn't limited to seeking out those who totally agree
with your worldview, or rejecting them because you can't agree on
everything.
Yet, Obama "pals" with terrorists, in your book. No, don't try to bullshit
me that the only reason you brought up that election-driven story is that
they were simply in close proximity several times.
No, your sleazy chickenshit inference that a former Weatherman or a pastor
who is overly critical of America and a President are somehow sharing those
same viewpoints is another example of your hypocrisy. And that was fueled by
power-seekers in a nasty dirt campaign that collapsed, and now, one of those
candidates is acting very oddly, indeed. LOL!
Oh, I can well understand that people can *disagree* without hating each
other, but I also understand what other underhanded motivations can also be
present in such associations, especially with an insecure conservative
transparently-closeted extremist as yourself, who seeks opportunities to
ingratiate himself into others' lives in a desperate attempt to amass
confederates...which, he then uses to hammer down his opponents by
suggesting they act more like his new-found confederates, or be banished
from his contact list here, as you told me a short while ago. That, like
Wolfy, I should be more congenial towards you, no longer personally
attacking you, or else you'd consider not communicating with me. LOL!
Either we conform to your comrades' mode of behavior, which you approve, and
to your expectations, or we're not *worth* (LOL!!) your attention.
Fuck you, smug toad.
And that fuck you is meant only for you. I realize what a conformist and
manipulator you are, junior, but for others recently joining your camp, so
to speak, I fully respect their, or anyones' right to have friends of any
kind...no matter how assinine I may think their new friends are. That
assininity, however, doesn't leak over to those I enjoy here who've laid the
hammer down with you.
I will continue to use my hammer on you whenever I know you're wrong, and I
will use whatever language I feel is justified in expressing my displeasure.
And if you wish to continue to "lie" about my *lack of intelligence*, I'll
be more than happy to email a copy of my college transcript of a
near-perfect grade point average and honor roll awards.
You military hillbilly.
Doc ;))~~~
Quit grinding, both of you! I went through a similar grind with Wolfy and he
and I finally admitted it was to no credit for either.
I admit I have been grinding against Slinky for a long while, but that is
because I NEVER got along with his very narrow worldview, or disingenuous
behavior, from the gitgo.
Wolfy has a wider intellect and a sharper wit and more tolerance.
You, on the other hand, had a cordial agreeable relationship with Wolfy for
a long while. I simply propose you two find a common interest, again, and
patch up your differences, as Wolfy and I did.
I'm not blaming you or him.
I'm merely pointing out the obvious futility of it, and I understand how
sickly enjoyable it can become sometimes, to play "Counter Barbs", but it
seems that it's now become unenjoyable for both of you, considering that you
both now keep going over the same barbs.
Doc
>
> "Pers3id" <per...@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C45CCE1...@85.214.113.135...
>> "Doc" <cmdr...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h3b0ui$ame$1...@aioe.org:
>>
>>>
>>> "Werewolfy" <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:9694996b-0a80-40e8...@h11g2000yqb.googlegroups.co
>>> m. ..
>>>> On 10 July, 03:20, Pers3id <pers...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Stop sniveling woofy.. grow up and be a man..
>>>>
>>>> Let's dicuss 'being a man'.
>>>>
>>>> E Mail me your home telephone number.
>>>>
>>>> Let's see how much of a 'man' you are.
>>>>
>>>> Werewolfy
>>>
>>> Oh...ooooh... Have Sledgehammer Will Travel!
>>>
>>> Move over, Richard Boone.
>>>
>>> If I were you, Perseid, I'd quit now
>>
>> Quit what ? Woofy has invented a new enemy and I'm sure he'll follow
>> me around for awhile thinking that this makes him appear more manly
>> (and he does seem to have quite a lot of time on his hands). He's
>> the only one angry. What he's angry about is still an open mystery.
>> I suspect it's an alcoholic personality that puts him into a rage
>> over the slightest things, but who knows.
>
> Quit grinding, both of you!
:-)
Who me, grind ?
> I went through a similar grind with Wolfy
> and he and I finally admitted it was to no credit for either.
> I admit I have been grinding against Slinky for a long while, but that
> is because I NEVER got along with his very narrow worldview, or
> disingenuous behavior, from the gitgo.
The same can be said for a number of us.
> Wolfy has a wider intellect and a sharper wit and more tolerance.
> You, on the other hand, had a cordial agreeable relationship with
> Wolfy for a long while. I simply propose you two find a common
> interest, again, and patch up your differences, as Wolfy and I did.
> I'm not blaming you or him.
Yeah, I'm thinking of taking some time out from APN. I am just very
busy with work and personal projects, and some of the melodrama
around here is not to my taste.
Don't be too rough on slinky, or should I say, be as rough as
possible. What I mean to say is, you know he is begging for it,
but he doesn't really want it, and, oh hell, you know what I mean!
He's a liberal, but he's a conservative ! He's a Jack Kennedy
democrat who fully supports dead Iraqis. Hey, take care doc.
And that means they were palling around. End of discussion.
Your narrow worldview and disingenuous behavior?
>
> > Wolfy has a wider intellect and a sharper wit and more tolerance.
> > You, on the other hand, had a cordial agreeable relationship with
> > Wolfy for a long while. I simply propose you two find a common
> > interest, again, and patch up your differences, as Wolfy and I did.
> > I'm not blaming you or him.
>
> Yeah, I'm thinking of taking some time out from APN. I am just very
> busy with work and personal projects, and some of the melodrama
> around here is not to my taste.
As if you weren't the underlying cause of what just happened on this
group.
>
> Don't be too rough on slinky, or should I say, be as rough as
> possible. What I mean to say is, you know he is begging for it,
> but he doesn't really want it, and, oh hell, you know what I mean!
> He's a liberal, but he's a conservative ! He's a Jack Kennedy
> democrat
I'm a JFK liberal, Randy. I've shown plenty of his quotes with which I
agree, and Doc doesn't. And you don't either, though you once did.
>
> who fully supports dead Iraqis.
I never wrote anything like this, Randy, but you did:
[quoting Randy] "If there's a possibility you're going to attack us,
we're going to kill you first. Fuck the weapons inspectors, they don't
have a clue. This is WAR now. We'll find the weapons after we've taken
your country." [end quote]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/56b048e12da7f8bb?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/56b048e12da7f8bb?hl=en
Is saying such hardline things in the HEAT of a fired-up paranoid
terrorist-victimized nation churning with false terror alerts, as we were
not long ago, the same as making hardline assumptions and accusations,
without any factual evidence, about "guilt by association" relationships and
sloppily mounted jokes, in the HEAT of a media and rightwing frenzy of
protest and controversy?
Some might think so.
It's called getting suckered in, junior. Anyone can fall victim to it, and
most do sometime in their lives.
The issue is not that such perceptual mistakes are made, but that the
suckers admit they've been had, made a mistake of judgement, and move on.
When you learn to do that, you can lecture others on it.
Doc
They palled around. Discussion over. Again.
When you learn how to answer directly a question of the essence of a
slanderous accusation, rather than dance around it foolishly for weeks,
restating the same bland ambiguity, it'll finally be over. Suggestion of
radicalism is what made that a headline story and campaign rhetoric -- not
simply that they talked about mundane business, the weather and sports, you
moron. But that is what you what me to believe was the sole reason you
brought the story forward as an answer to my question, "Do you believe, as
Palin did, that Obama palled around with terrorists?" Oh, no, he just
pallled around with a guy that was once a terrorist, but who, as you said,
was still playing with radicalism much later than I thought. Oh, that sure
sounds like you want Obama to be considered as a terrorist-lover, you
goddamn slimy asshole. And are we to expect that America would be better off
with more personalities like your's? LOLOLOL!!! We had 'em for 8 fucking
years, and we're in a fucking moral, economic, and social mess today.
At some miraculous point, maybe you'll grow up a few years and get a lot
smarter when you finally learn how to say what you mean, plainly.
The next time you're sucking on Sarah's tits, junior, remind yourself that
she and her husband "palled" around with radical state-succesionists for two
years.
For a guy who thinks the integrity of the entire 50-state union is so damned
important, enough to kill tens of thousands of innocents for, you sure make
your ideological alliances with oddball unpatriotic fuckers, don't ya? NO
successionist cares about the integrity of the Union, dope.
For a guy who condemns Wally for his outright doomdayism, yet supports
McCain or some other Christian asshole elitist who has, at the core of their
belief, an expectation that the world could end at anytime, you really make
quite a spectacle of yourself here.
LOL!
What a laugh you are, junior!
Doc ;))~~~
Doesn't mean they shared any ideology that was militant or anti-American,
right? And we all just 'know' that is why Palin and McCain and most
rightwing extremists were soooo concerned: they were "just" friends,
discussing sports and the weather. Hell, that's why the media made it a huge
issue, too. Inference of wrong-thinking, shared by both, was THE reason it
was election fodder and media scuttlebutt, junior. When will you finally
come clean and start saying what you really mean? HUH??
What will it take for you to stand up like a real man and state your
position?
No end of discussion with you constantly sidestepping the obvious intention
you had in mind recycling that crapola. And you reminded me that Ayers
appears to have had his radical ideology still simmering much later than I
was aware...oh, why would you make that point? LOL!
See, you fucking underhanded fascistic asshole, this is why I truly hope
America keeps a wide diversity of personalities, of ideologies, of opinions,
of lifestyles, etc., forever, because that is the best, safest way to ensure
we don't have an imbalance created by an overabundance of deceptive,
hypocritical, wormy, authority-worshipping, conforming citizens like you.
Doc
LOL!!! LOL!!!