LET BURRY THIS POSTERIOR MAN - [1/2]
DrPostman
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>VERY SMALL SAMPLE OF FEEDBACK
>FROM THE WORLD ABOUT MY WORK …
No they are not, they are made up. You have your own message
board on your web site, yet only a few people have posted to it.
If you were so popular there would be more "testimonials" on
that message board. You are a fake and a fraud and no one
on the net takes you seriously.
I'm glad I task you so. You deserve it.
Want me to bring back the Turdi Style News? I guess not, since
you stopped posting predictions on the net over a year ago. Hard
to claim a hit when I can post news items that you claim you predict
that happen every day.
You are so busted.
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matthew
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> On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:38:08 GMT, Dt...@juno.com (Dr. Turi) in accordance
with
> The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
wisdom
> with:
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> >Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> >Testimonials
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> >VERY SMALL SAMPLE OF FEEDBACK
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> No they are not, they are made up. You have your own message
> board on your web site, yet only a few people have posted to it.
> If you were so popular there would be more "testimonials" on
> that message board. You are a fake and a fraud and no one
> on the net takes you seriously.
>
> I'm glad I task you so. You deserve it.
>
> Want me to bring back the Turdi Style News? I guess not, since
> you stopped posting predictions on the net over a year ago. Hard
> to claim a hit when I can post news items that you claim you predict
> that happen every day.
>
original quatrains, or even the facsimiles?
also, he never answer RE:buttals.
DrPostman
with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
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>did you know that dr. Turi has probably never actually looked at any of the
>original quatrains, or even the facsimiles?
Absolutely. There is some question if he can even read.
>also, he never answer RE:buttals.
He used to. He threatened me with "black magic" once.
He's a funny little fucker.
Peter Lemesurier
are suggesting?
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 00:52:28 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:38:08 GMT, Dt...@juno.com (Dr. Turi) in accordance with
>The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
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>>Testimonials
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>>VERY SMALL SAMPLE OF FEEDBACK
>>FROM THE WORLD ABOUT MY WORK …
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Peter
DrPostman
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>Are you sure Nostradamus used synecdoche in this verse in the way you
>are suggesting?
Turdi has never even studied the Quatrains. He just makes up crap as he goes
along.
Peter Lemesurier
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:23:29 +0000, Peter Lemesurier
><lem...@bengal.demon.co.uk> in accordance with The Prophecy and "For
>Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
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>>Are you sure Nostradamus used synecdoche in this verse in the way you
>>are suggesting?
>
>
>Turdi has never even studied the Quatrains. He just makes up crap as he goes
>along.
He doesn't even use a toilet, you mean? ;)
Did Nostradamus have a toilet? What kind would it have been, do you
think?
--
Peter
Cardinal Chunder
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:23:29 +0000, Peter Lemesurier
> <lem...@bengal.demon.co.uk> in accordance with The Prophecy and "For
> Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>
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>>Are you sure Nostradamus used synecdoche in this verse in the way you
>>are suggesting?
>
>
>
> Turdi has never even studied the Quatrains. He just makes up crap as he goes
> along.
Didn't Nosty do the same though? Turdi might be right when he says he's
following the same "Divine Astrology Methodology" - just make up any old
shit off the top of your head so long as it is cryptic, ultra vague or
catch-all.
Of course just because he follows the same methodology doesn't make him
equal to Nosty any more than me armed with a hammer, nails and planks of
wood makes me a Chippendale (the furniture maker not the dancers).
DrPostman
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>DrPostman wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:23:29 +0000, Peter Lemesurier
>> <lem...@bengal.demon.co.uk> in accordance with The Prophecy and "For
>> Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>>
>>
>>>Are you sure Nostradamus used synecdoche in this verse in the way you
>>>are suggesting?
>>
>>
>>
>> Turdi has never even studied the Quatrains. He just makes up crap as he goes
>> along.
>
>Didn't Nosty do the same though? Turdi might be right when he says he's
>following the same "Divine Astrology Methodology" - just make up any old
>shit off the top of your head so long as it is cryptic, ultra vague or
>catch-all.
>
>Of course just because he follows the same methodology doesn't make him
>equal to Nosty any more than me armed with a hammer, nails and planks of
>wood makes me a Chippendale (the furniture maker not the dancers).
At least Nosty was original. There isn't an original bone in Turdi's body.
matthew
"DrPostman" <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:56:24 -0600, "matthew" <dalt...@nemr.net> in
accordance
> with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their
> wisdom with:
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>
> >did you know that dr. Turi has probably never actually looked at any of
the
> >original quatrains, or even the facsimiles?
>
> Absolutely. There is some question if he can even read.
>
>
> >also, he never answer RE:buttals.
>
> He used to. He threatened me with "black magic" once.
>
> He's a funny little fucker.
>
>
matthew
"DrPostman" <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:23:29 +0000, Peter Lemesurier
> <lem...@bengal.demon.co.uk> in accordance with The Prophecy and "For
> Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>
> >Are you sure Nostradamus used synecdoche in this verse in the way you
> >are suggesting?
>
>
> Turdi has never even studied the Quatrains. He just makes up crap as he
goes
> along.
>
Peter Lemesurier
quoted:
>Didn't Nosty do the same though? Turdi might be right when he says he's
>following the same "Divine Astrology Methodology" - just make up any old
>shit off the top of your head so long as it is cryptic, ultra vague or
>catch-all.
Hence the name Turdi?
--
Peter
Jean Guernon
DrPostman a écrit :
>
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:23:29 +0000, Peter Lemesurier
> <lem...@bengal.demon.co.uk> in accordance with The Prophecy and "For
> Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>
> >Are you sure Nostradamus used synecdoche in this verse in the way you
> >are suggesting?
>
> Turdi has never even studied the Quatrains. He just makes up crap as he goes
> along.
Well so much the better; Turi is an astrologer, hardly compatible with
the quatrains as per 6,100.
Now he is welcomed to use the horoscopes of the Seer, or his almanacs
and study them. The reason Nostradamus couldn't take the 'title' of
prophet is because he was also an astrologer (yes Peter he was! lol) and
the two are incompatible.
Hence why he insisted that astrologers don't get near the Centuries, or
try to figure out that he made his quatrain through astrology. He
didn't. But the rest of his work was very much profane by popular
demand. The Centuries were for future generations only.
One can trip on Nostradamus an astrologer and I'd be interested in what
Turi has to say about Nostradamus astrological work (i.e., all his
horoscopes and almanacs - any interpretation of sky charts. But NOT if
he is going to use the Centuries (or 2 accompanying letters) to show any
astrological stuff; if he did, it would only show he doesn't get
Nostradamus).
He could prove Lemesurier wrong when he says Nostradamus was NOT an
astrologer (see http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Peter.asx i.e.
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Peter.wmv for the file)
Me it is no more my area of expertise fro decades. I work on prophecies,
although I am sure he was one of he greatest of his time in his profane
work despite a couple of minor calculation mistakes here and there, and
the criticism of a few other astrologers, jealous, because he also had
the gift of premonition. Astrology is psychology in a way, that truly
works because so many attribute it its rule, but can be tricky because
you have to deal with its principles... It is an art, but not compatible
with prophecies.
You see the difference with both Nostradamus profane and sacred work,
astrology suggest, but can be wrong (Nostradamus was always saying he
could be wrong in interpreting his chart), prophecies tell and cannot
suffer any error (Nostradamus said he could not be wrong in his
prophecies). Now Peter turns that around to make it a printer's mistake.
Jeez he gets nothing.
He tried comparative horoscopy (astrology) with the prophecies (he
insists prophecies and predictions are the same and adds them all up in
the same bag) and as it didn't work, it couldn't, he now says that the
Seer made no prophecies. He just took stuff from the past and made
things out of the blue.
Of course he had a cultural luggage and took a form of poetry common to
prophecies, and answered some questions about some, that were from
history or from biblical studies...
Astrology is human, prophecy is divine. Both Lemesurier and Turi should
concern themselves with the former about Nostradamus and leave he later
to people who will respect the prophetic aspect.
I know Lemesurier will likely never get the message as he is too
implicated in the exploitation of the prophecies. But Dr. Turi, maybe?
J.
DrPostman
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>One can trip on Nostradamus an astrologer and I'd be interested in what
>Turi has to say about Nostradamus astrological work
He claims to use Nosty's "method" but he has never said
what that is. He WILL teach people how to do it for $3,000.
>I know Lemesurier will likely never get the message as he is too
>implicated in the exploitation of the prophecies. But Dr. Turi, maybe?
Turi isn't a doctor. He paid a diploma mill $250 for a "doctorate"
in Metaphysics.
Jean Guernon
DrPostman a écrit :
>
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:54:57 GMT, Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> in
> accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
> their wisdom with:
>
> >One can trip on Nostradamus as astrologer and I'd be interested in what
> >Turi has to say about Nostradamus astrological work
>
> He claims to use Nosty's "method" but he has never said
> what that is. He WILL teach people how to do it for $3,000.
Bah his method is what astrologer used in the 16th century, plus
intuition... Still it is mostly his work that made it to us, because of
his fame...
Their interpretations of eclipse for instance were quite ominous. Now
astrology remains astrology and the quality of astrological predictions
are nothing compared to the quality of prophecies in term of omen.
Nothing is fixed with astrology, a bad configuration can be used to the
advantage of the native.
Real prophecies are deemed to happen, I mean they really are... doomed
occurrences.
>
> >I know Lemesurier will likely never get the message as he is too
> >implicated in the exploitation of the prophecies. But Dr. Turi, maybe?
>
> Turi isn't a doctor. He paid a diploma mill $250 for a "doctorate"
> in Metaphysics.
Bah, a metaphysics doctorate may cost $250 while a medical one still
costs 1000 times more. Nostradamus was both on top of being the last of
prophet, and YET had to do astrology to make a living, what do you
expect from a simple astrologer? It may seem a lot, but it takes a lot
of time to go over what Nostradamus thought and taught about astrology
and to make a course of it.
Me I work on a school protocol about prophecies, not about astrology,
but for those into astrology in the NGs listed above, I know what it can
be... my last astrological programs were back when computers were 16/32
bits, I made several with Atari and then Atari ST and Amiga although
different versions each times and of astrologers too. One I made is
available at http://www.michelnostradamus.org/WinUAE/astro.adf [if you
have WinUAE emulator it is the only format used on
news:alt.binaries.warez.amiga for instance hence why I used it] which
can still be used to make charts for prophecies, maybe recompiled to
retrocalculate certain potential configurations (but as is the
progressions are not functional). It still has its basic interpretations
I chose for this one, mainly by Rudhyar, Oken, and Crowley (and a couple
of others), and would likely make one just for Nostradamus
interpretations (if I was not into interpretations of prophecies). My
point is that it takes a very sophisticated approach for each.
I must admit, I wonder if Min and Turi get along, as regulars and
astrologers here on apn I don't know any others, nor how these two
compare, to, for instance, the 3 I just named. But these three I am sure
that Nostradamus would be recognized by them, even if the Seer is not
recognized as an astrologer by Lemesurier.
But astrology is not my interest with Nostradamus, medicine and
prophecies are the two aspect I stick to with the Seer. And he did both
(again despite what Lemesurier says!-in->
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Peter.asx which I repost becasue it is
so incredible but shows in few words why). So if Dr Turi or any
astrologer that has studied the horoscope and almanac o Nostradamus can
debunk Lemesurier about Nostradamus astrologer, it would be great. I
will do it about medicine (my formation is in molecular biology) and
prophecies anytime, but can't touch astrology.
Anyway, outside that, astrology is his' (Dr. Turi's), and his clients',
maybe, interest. So it is his bag anyway and it is complex enough to be
taught. It surely is more likely to bring more insight than money spent
on psychic lines, say. I went through that studies before I found
Nostradamus so I cannot denigrate it. Who am I to judge if the Almighty
has not yet made them sees the prophecies for what they are. At least
Nostradamus can show them both aspects eventually. No one else can...
As I say, as long as he doesn't pretend prophecies proper are
astrological finds, and vice versa, I have no problem with his role in
the cosmic dance... The quatrains are to be kept apart from horoscopes,
even for his success, 6,100 is clear... even though the Seer did make
the charts for each of his prophecies, it was after they were revealed
to him, so that he could make the poems freely. Not before. Unlike
astrological predictions. I cannot stress this enough.
As long as the good "doctor" gets that, he can be a great astrologer
IMO. We won't deactivate him ;-). As long as he does that... the 6,100
malediction won't make him a target of vile slandering scandalmongering;
even if this is a dubious science limited in scope to those that believe
in it. It is a matter of abuse of sources.
But back to your question, to get Nostradamus method, he'd have to focus
on the charts Nostradamus did for his numerous clients and his almanacs.
And all his friends (and foes) astrologers. and It is a strenuous work
that Brind'Amour (a total nonbeliever in either) has started... Quite
fascinating.
But again, you are right to say that "knowing Nostradamus astrology
doesn't make him an expert on Nostradamus prophecies", far from it. They
just don't mix.
J.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>Bah, a metaphysics doctorate may cost $250 while a medical one still
>costs 1000 times more. Nostradamus was both on top of being the last of
>prophet, and YET had to do astrology to make a living, what do you
>expect from a simple astrologer?
Huge, steaming piles of shit, and nothing more. I have yet to be
disappointed, or surprised.
--
V.G.
"I have not be me idiot you are still BE idiot! hahhahhahahahah!"
Theo <byj...@ch.inter.net> in alt.fan.art-bell
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
John Griffin
> [ other topics ]
> But again, you are right to say that "knowing Nostradamus astrology
> doesn't make him an expert on Nostradamus prophecies", far from it. They
> just don't mix.
THANK GOD!!!! Lots of people have been worried sick. No mind
should be afflicted with both of those superstitions.
By the way, what the hell was all that other stuff? It
looked like pure prolixity to me.
Peter Lemesurier
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>>I know Lemesurier will likely never get the message as he is too
>>implicated in the exploitation of the prophecies.
So was Nostradamus. He died a very rich man. So I wonder if Jean
thinks *he* ever got the message either?
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier
<vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>Nostradamus was both on top of being the last of
>>prophet, and YET had to do astrology to make a living, what do you
>>expect from a simple astrologer?
He wasn't one, and didn't claim to be one.
He always called himself an 'astrophile', or star-lover. But as far as
astrology is concerned, he always used other people's tables, and
couldn't even interpolate from those.
Here is an OCR of Brind'Amour's analysis of the 28 horoscopes
contained in Nostradamus's private correspondence, from his absolutely
seminal work on the subject, 'Nostradamus Astrophile' (Klincksieck /
Presses de l'Université d'Ottawa, 1993):
Horoscopes drawn up by others:
Chart Author Errors Time diff. Lunar diff.
10 mai 1510 B (Leowitz) 0 0 min -0,48
1 juillet 1526 (Leowitz) 0 0 min -0,17
8 aout 1531 (Tubbe) 0 - +0,13
15 aout 1535 (Suauis) 0 - -1,80
30 juin 1561 (Leowitz) 0 0 min -1,18
1 juillet 1562 (Leowitz) 0 +1 min -0,35
1 juillet 1563 (Leowitz) 0 +1 min +0,45
30 juin 1564 (Leowitz) 0 0 min +0,00
30 juin 1565 (Leowitz) 0 +1 min -0,67
10 mars 1566 (Carellus) 0 0 min -0,95
11 juin 1566 (Leowitz) 0 0 min +0,13
13 sept 1566 (Leowitz) 0 0 min - 0,40
11 dec 1566 (Leowitz) 0 0 min 0,02
9 avril 1567 (Leowitz) 0 0 min +0,02
mean 0 +0,3 min -0,38
typical difference 0 0,5 min 0,61
Horoscopes drawn up by Nostradamus
Chart Errors Time diff. Lunar diff. Lunar diff.
(time indicated) (noon)
13 nov 1500 3 + 1,83 +0,03
7 oct 1507 0 + 1 min - 1,35 -0,72
10 mai 1510 A 1 + 7min +2,37 -0,30
19 mars 1512 1 + 7min + 1,88 -0,33
19 aout 1517 6 + 5 min +3,88 -0,48
2 janvier 1528 1 + l2min -4,42 +0,45
23 janvier 1533 - - -3,90 0,100
24 avril 1534 1 + 3min - -
19 dec 1534 1 - 1 min - 1,32 +0,25
2 fev 1544 7 + l2min - 1,43 +0,87
19 aout 1548 5 - 4min +3,37 -0,30
22 dec 1548 4 + 8min +0,23 +0,27
18 juillet 1552 6 + 4min - -
3 fevrier 1562 2 - 155 min - -
mean 3,0 +4,9 min +0,10 -0,01
typical error 2,5 5,0 min 2,81 0,46
The figures in the two right-hand columns refer to degrees and minutes
-- and the French of course use a comma instead of a decimal point.
The Errors refer to the number of occasions on which the planets are
placed in the wrong houses. The figures in the 'Time diff.' column
refer to the fact that, normally speaking, Nostradamus simply took the
figures for noon at Bologna, Venice or wherever the tables he was
using were calculated for (by Regiomontanus, Stöffler, Pitatus,
Carellus or Leowitz -- all of which are easily identifiable from their
figures), and then applied them directly to his horoscopes, without
bothering to interpolate either for his clients' place or time of
birth!
--
Peter Lemesurier
Peter Lemesurier
Griffin) either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>By the way, what the hell was all that other stuff? It
>looked like pure prolixity to me.
Jean prolix? What a suggestion! ;)
--
Peter
Jean Guernon
John Griffin a écrit :
Dissertation. You would need a brain?
J.
Peter Lemesurier
<lem...@bengal.demon.co.uk> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
BTW, isn't *Jean* ... er ... selling Nostradamus books as well?
Just playing his usual psychological projection game, in other words?
Mote and beam... that sort of thing...
--
Peter
Jean Guernon
Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
The difference is that unlike you Nostradamus wasn't a phoney.
The truth, should turn that luck of yours around...
We shall start with your categorical lie about Nostradamus not being an
astrologer as you make no nuance to the world. Hope professional
astrologers raise to the challenge.
But that will still have nothing to do with 6,100. This is something
that should be self fulfiling.
We shall see.
J.
Jean Guernon
Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
"Exploitation" (of the prophecies) is the key word here. You make up
sensationalist publication making the Seer a fraud because
1- you don't have the wits to decipher the prophecies, and
2. you can fool your anglophone public by pretending you possess the
language which you don't.
Me I have been faithful to the word of the seer and my works are in the
continuation of a long lineage (matter o speaking) of HONEST exegetes
who truly researched the quatrains and the history of the world. I (and
my predecessor) have the most advanced research in the world even though
it could be improved. It takes 10 years of total dedication to achieve
that.
Every single book you publish tries to destroy these centuries of honest
research. Because of the oddity, you have success, and you don'T care it
won't last when people see they are fooled, you come up with even more
outrageous claim that you can only prove buy making up what the language
the real facts are actually in (Latin and French) says to corroborate
your lies an thwart the texts to your advantage.
This is what I am talking about. It is incredible that you don't get
what I say and compare me to you!!!! You know better. :-(
J.
WH
"Jean Guernon" <jgue...@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:3E1F146F...@globetrotter.net...
Aren't you being a bit silly guernon when it comes to people who "can"
Nostradamus?
Lets face it, you said that you don't shave because Nostradamus, (and Jesus)
had beards.
They're the words of a weirdo...and if I remember correctly Claude claims
that Nostradamus
actually mentioned him by name...weird too.
PLM is the only one, at least on this NG, who seems to have his wits about
him. My apologies to
Claude if I'm wrong about him, but you posted your beard thingie to me so I
know that's true.
Being a bit critical is not "fraudulent" it's keeping the door open for
other ideas. Other peoples ideas.
Being adamant that "I'm right and you're wrong" is fraudulent. Nobody can
say that they have deciphered
Nostradamus' quatrains be it you, Claud or PLM...or anyone else. The only
one, as far as I can see, that
keeps it open, (his interpretations) to scrutiny is PLM. You can't accept
that you may be wrong. Claude seems
to be of the same opinion when it comes to his interpretations.
All anyone can do is make an educated guess, no-one knows exactly what its
all about or what it all means.
Someone claiming that they are right and everyone else is wrong is not a
true Nostradamus interpreter...not
at all. A true "interpreter" will always say something like "I think this is
what it means...but I could be wrong" because
the true Nostradamus interpreter will always know that the only one who
actually "knows" is Nostradamus himself.
...and we can't ask him now can we?
So grow up...understand that there are a few interpreters, who interpret it
all in their way and that you are not the one and
only. Maybe then with lots of different interpretations which can be
scrutinized, one can look at them all and possibly
come to a decent conclusion as to what it's all about. Look for similarities
within the different interpretations and put them all together!
WH
sUSAn
WH will lick PETER to pay back Paul!!
>Aren't you being a bit silly guernon when
> it comes to people who "can"
> Nostradamus?
>Lets face it, you said that you don't
> shave because Nostradamus, (and
> Jesus) had beards.
>They're the words of a weirdo...and if I
> remember correctly Claude claims that
> Nostradamus
>actually mentioned him by name...weird
> too.
>PLM is the only one, at least on this NG,
> who seems to have his wits about him.
> My apologies to
>Claude if I'm wrong about him, but you
> posted your beard thingie to me so I
> know that's true.
snip--
>PLM...or anyone else. The only one, as
> far as I can see, that
>keeps it open, (his interpretations) to
> scrutiny is PLM. You can't accept that
> you may be wrong. Claude seems
>to be of the same opinion when it comes
> to his interpretations.
snip--
lickety-lickety,
slurp slurp slurp!
WH
WH
"sUSAn, the short fat one" <tugber...@webtv.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:17745-3E...@storefull-2153.public.lawson.webtv.net...
WH
"WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:avn9us$222$1...@green.tninet.se...
> Well c'mon then fatty...let's hear what you have to say about it all!!!!
>
> WH
Think about it if you can.
Guernon is a weirdo...won't shave because Nostradamus had a beard along with
Jesus.
Claude says that Nostradamus mentioned him by name...
Who do you think is serious?
PLM seems less of a weirdo than the others...or what?
Jean Guernon
Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
(No wonder he took out the alt.astrology NG before posting...)
So in other words Nostradamus used ephemeris instead of making them and
his projections had errors that varied from 0 to couple of minutes for
most (except one I see 155 min - a couple of degrees off), and had his
own way of interpreting which was still compatible but was criticized by
other astrologers that justly felt threatened...
In other words he made charts to almost perfect precision with a without
any computer, but using chart and often just taking noon, and has a mean
deviation of a couple of minutes in the moon calculation for 27 of his
28 charts (the last one a couple of degrees - real astrologers know how
hard it is to calculate the moon or even make program to calculate it,
it is complex) and that is why Peter says Nostradamus CERTAINLY WAS NOT
AN astrologer (http://www.michelnostradamus.org/Peter.wmv ) to the
world. This is the (pseudo-)expert on Nostradamus for the Anglophone
world ladies and gentlemen?!!!
On our NG he provided the chart recognized as the worst ever BY FAR
(according to Brind'Amour - the domification is really screwed up) and
make it a typical chart to try to show he wasn't an astrologer.
Geez the other charts he made were good, or at least not bad and his
interpretations were state of the art, but he added according to his
true premonitions, like any good astrologers would if in his place.
There is nothing that says he wasn't an astrologer, nor even that he
wasn't a good astrologer, all his clients were flabbergasted and
delighted, and France wanted horoscopes years after years. Yet it is
trivialities like that that prompts Peter to discredit Nostradamus in
his astrological abilities.
Same level of trivialities that makes him say the Seer was a fraud about
prophecies or medicine. Except he would have to understand prophecies
and medicine and French in these cases to really make the case he makes.
But that is another matter, he goes easy ion these two, while astrology
he categorically denies the Seer any role as an astrologer.
I think I made my case, but before the (Nostradamus astrologers team)
defense rests, would expert Astrologers (of alt.astrology hopefully)
please take the stand and elaborate as to what in the above figures
would disqualify him OR NOT as an astrologer. Thank you your honor. ;-)
J.
Jean Guernon
Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
I waas refering to Nostradamus quatrains, 4,50 in fact, and he had no
idea what I was talking about. Sure signs he has no business on this NG.
Of course, from a fellow Nosttadamian I would expect some solidarity,
but from Peter, I only can expect shit.
Sad.
J.
Jean Guernon
WH a écrit :
LIAR.
As usual, not even worth reading. Stupid terrorist promoter.
Your brain is slow again, you drown yourself in alcohol as usual?
J.
[snip the stupidities]
Jean Guernon
WH a écrit :
>
> "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:avn9us$222$1...@green.tninet.se...
> > Well c'mon then fatty...let's hear what you have to say about it all!!!!
> >
> > WH
>
> Think about it if you can.
> Guernon is a weirdo...won't shave because Nostradamus had a beard along with
> Jesus.
LIAR.
> Claude says that Nostradamus mentioned him by name...
>
> Who do you think is serious?
Rather who between you and me: you, WH, who An anti-Semite bastard like
WH, obsessed with appearances, who only promote hatred as a member of
the IRA who will not say he won't commit acts of terrorism against
innocent civilians, or an exegete who is a published author on a NG that
exactly is the topic of edition of his work?
No wonder all you can find is my look, LOLOL what a fucking low life
loser. Not even the brain to discuss prophecies, has to be how one
looks, you are as stupid as nono. I think more than him even, these
days.
> PLM seems less of a weirdo than the others...or what?
PLM is debunked in every other post and he is now known the world over
for being the pseudo-debunker of Nostradamus himself. One cannot go
lower in our very exclusive society which you are no part of.
You, couldn't debunk your grand mother.
J.
no
...............
Peter Lemesurier wrote in message ...
>On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:32:55 -0900, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
><vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>
>>Nostradamus was both on top of being the last of
>>>prophet, and YET had to do astrology to make a living, what do you
>>>expect from a simple astrologer?
>
>He wasn't one, and didn't claim to be one.
>
>He always called himself an 'astrophile', or star-lover. But as far as
>astrology is concerned, he always used other people's tables, and
>couldn't even interpolate from those.
>
>Here is an OCR of Brind'Amour's analysis of the 28 horoscopes
>contained in Nostradamus's private correspondence, from his absolutely
>seminal work on the subject, 'Nostradamus Astrophile' (Klincksieck /
>Presses de l'Universit d'Ottawa, 1993):
>using were calculated for (by Regiomontanus, St ffler, Pitatus,
no
clear unbiased facts from Peter, Sue, and remember Peter leaves out facts
that are relevant but do not suit his arguments.
...............
WH wrote in message ...
no
John Griffin wrote in message ...
LOL. You should see his theories on anthropology. A hoot and more.
John Griffin
Actually, it was just what I suggested, among other things.
Things such as yapping, logorrhea, verbal wankery, etc.
Grantland
>
>"WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
>news:avn9us$222$1...@green.tninet.se...
>> Well c'mon then fatty...let's hear what you have to say about it all!!!!
>>
>> WH
>
>Think about it if you can.
>Guernon is a weirdo...won't shave because Nostradamus had a beard along with
>Jesus.
>Claude says that Nostradamus mentioned him by name...
>
>Who do you think is serious?
>PLM seems less of a weirdo than the others...or what?
>
>WH
slurp slurp
WH
of them...the two obvious nutcases are first to be withdrawn...get it?
WH
"no" <rann...@earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:4iLT9.3754$Dq.3...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
WH
>
>
> WH a écrit :
> >
> > "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:avn9us$222$1...@green.tninet.se...
> > > Well c'mon then fatty...let's hear what you have to say about it
all!!!!
> > >
> > > WH
> >
> > Think about it if you can.
> > Guernon is a weirdo...won't shave because Nostradamus had a beard along
with
> > Jesus.
>
> LIAR.
>
> > Claude says that Nostradamus mentioned him by name...
> >
> > Who do you think is serious?
>
> Rather who between you and me: you, WH, who An anti-Semite bastard like
> WH, obsessed with appearances, who only promote hatred as a member of
> the IRA who will not say he won't commit acts of terrorism against
> innocent civilians, or an exegete who is a published author on a NG that
> exactly is the topic of edition of his work?
You still can't read a post can you monkey boy? Try reading it a few more
times and it might hit you what it's about!!!
WH
Jean Guernon
no a écrit :
I see you are still a loser with no brain nono.
J.
Jean Guernon
Yeah. I just realized, cross posting... I guess that you are on a NG
incompatible with the others listed and where it is giving users a
headache to use their brain.
Wonder who started the first post that necesitate you take advil. At
least tell us which is your NG so we know to avoid it.
J.
Jean Guernon
J.
WH a écrit :
>
[snip]
Peter Lemesurier
wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>> "Exploitation" (of the prophecies) is the key word here. You make up
>> sensationalist publication making the Seer a fraud because
Which publications are they, then, exactly?
>>
>> 1- you don't have the wits to decipher the prophecies, and
Whereas you, with your obviously replendent and finely honed
intellect...
>>
>> 2. you can fool your anglophone public by pretending you possess the
>> language which you don't.
Whereas you, knowing no Latin and virtually no 16th century French --
or at least totally ignoring the latter in your interpretations -- do.
Sure, sure...
>>
>> Me I have been faithful to the word of the seer and my works are in the
>> continuation of a long lineage (matter o speaking) of HONEST exegetes
>> who truly researched the quatrains and the history of the world. I (and
>> my predecessor) have the most advanced research in the world even though
>> it could be improved. It takes 10 years of total dedication to achieve
>> that.
And, of course, ignoring all the reputable research since 1867 except
Dufresne, who based himself almost totally on it...
>>
>> Every single book you publish tries to destroy these centuries of honest
>> research. Because of the oddity, you have success, and you don'T care it
>> won't last when people see they are fooled, you come up with even more
>> outrageous claim that you can only prove buy making up what the language
>> the real facts are actually in (Latin and French) says to corroborate
>> your lies an thwart the texts to your advantage.
You've actually seen my two new books, then, and weighed up all the
evidence in them carefully, have you? Gee, the marvels of
precognition!
>>
>> This is what I am talking about. It is incredible that you don't get
>> what I say and compare me to you!!!! You know better. :-(
I get what you say perfectly, Jean. Unfortunately.
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier
wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>You still can't read a post can you monkey boy? Try reading it a few more
>times and it might hit you what it's about!!!
Possibly that's the most extraordinary thing about him -- just can't
read and understand what's in front of his nose. I suppose it's the
'red mist' that comes down over hie eyes or something...
But it doesn't bode well for his reading and understanding of
Nostradamus, of all people, does it?
When in doubt about a conclusion... jump to it!;)
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier
wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
> The only
>one, as far as I can see, that
>keeps it open, (his interpretations) to scrutiny is PLM.
Thank you, WH.
Possibly that is because, generally speaking, he doesn't even offer
interpretations!
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier
Griffin) either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>Actually, it was just what I suggested, among other things.
>Things such as yapping, logorrhea, verbal wankery, etc.
At all of which Nostradamus was, of course, a past master...
--
Peter
John Griffin
Are you kidding?! I don't really believe you're sweeping lots
of others along in your wake as you run away shouting lame little
whimpers over your shoulder, but toying with umbrageous whiners
like you is too much fun to pass up.
Post another tantrum! You're an amusing little twit...using
your brain for superstitions and for taking phony "dr." turi
(zero for life, prophecy-wise) seriously...<snicker>
Claude Latremouille
*
> "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:avn9us$222$1...@green.tninet.se...
> > Well c'mon then fatty...let's hear what you have to say about it all!!!!
> >
> > WH
>
> Think about it if you can.
> Guernon is a weirdo...won't shave because Nostradamus had a beard along with
> Jesus.
> Claude says that Nostradamus mentioned him by name...
>
> Who do you think is serious?
> PLM seems less of a weirdo than the others...or what?
>
> WH
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:23:35 +0100, WH <bol...@hotmail.com> wrote
*
> Claude says that Nostradamus mentioned him by name...
Hmmm, blurted out like this, it sure sounds wacky. A little
context might help. Of course, you don't have to believe any of
this (Peter does not, and I do not call him a weirdo), but still,
hear me:
*
1. Nostradamus was a seer/prophet, i.e., he got visions of the
future.
*
2. One of the visions he got was about the (still future)
unintended destruction of Paris, on Sunday, August 13, 2017, at
3:53 a.m.
*
3. To warn the good people of Paris of his visions, he decided to
write 24 books about anything and everything (cookbook included),
all of which contain a prophecy which he has hidden in the text
he has published (this is called a cryptogram), a prophecy which
can only survive if no one ever guessed that he did hide it. That
prophecy was frozen in time for 440 years.
*
4. There being no point in hiding something which cannot be
discovered in time to achieve the purpose for which he had
written it, Nostradamus made sure that what he did hide would be
discovered well before 2017.
*
5. It just so happens that I am the guy who -- from 1993 to the
present -- discovered progressively that hidden text, and it just
so happens that Nostradamus knew it and wrote about it.
*
As I have said, you don't have to believe any of this. And I
can't blame anyone for thinking that it is weird. But everything
about Nostradamus is weird. So, one thing more, or one thing
less... who cares! :-)
*
Have a nice day, you all!
*
Claude Latrémouille
*
=== cla...@torfree.net ===
=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
===========================
Edmond Wollmann
He doesn't have a newsgroup, he is a harasser, spinic, and abuser, who
moves across groups criticising things he has no knowledge about.
This is because his real life is so miserable he believes he is going
down--or has gone down--the tubes, and wants to drag as many people as
possible down into his misery.
Because remember, misery loves company.
A mind is like a parachute; it doesn't function properly if it isn't
open. If it doesn't STAY open, the collision with reality may be
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in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us
of their wisdom with:
>He doesn't have a newsgroup, he is a harasser, spinic, and abuser, who
>moves across groups criticising things he has no knowledge about.
>This is because his real life is so miserable he believes he is going
>down--or has gone down--the tubes, and wants to drag as many people as
>possible down into his misery.
>Because remember, misery loves company.
Projections noted. He is, like the rest of us, laughing at you. There is
no misery involved, except for what you must feel after all your attempts
to kick people off their ISPs and your empty threats of law suits.
>A mind is like a parachute; it doesn't function properly if it isn't
>open. If it doesn't STAY open, the collision with reality may be
>traumatic indeed.
Your parachute never opened Ed.
--
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Claude Latremouille <cla...@torfree.net> wrote in message
news:20030111100802...@sheppard1.torfree.net...
Peter Lemesurier
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>Projections noted. He is, like the rest of us, laughing at you. There is
>no misery involved, except for what you must feel after all your attempts
>to kick people off their ISPs and your empty threats of law suits.
Did you know that Nostradamus once went to law to prevent his
publisher Brotot from publishing a mangled version of one of his
annual Almanachs?
--
Peter
no
WH wrote in message ...
>of them...the two obvious nutcases are first to be withdrawn...get it?
Oh you mean Peter Claude and Guernie. Okay. Comprends. I'm truly afraid for
Tony Alef and we know what happened to KOT in his house. Alef and KOT
clearly accused Peter. I was conned by Peter, and did his bidding against
the demented Guernon. Little did I know the depth of Peter's purpose. Back
to work.
...............
Cujo
news:3E2034...@earthlink.net:
> Jean Guernon wrote:
>>
>> John Griffin a écrit :
>> >
>> > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
>> > > John Griffin a écrit :
>> > > >
>> > > > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
>> > > >
>> > > > > [ other topics ]
>> > >
>> > > > > But again, you are right to say that "knowing Nostradamus
>> > > > > astrology doesn't make him an expert on Nostradamus
>> > > > > prophecies", far from it. They just don't mix.
>> > > >
>> > > > THANK GOD!!!! Lots of people have been worried sick. No mind
>> > > > should be afflicted with both of those superstitions.
>> > > >
>> > > > By the way, what the hell was all that other stuff? It
>> > > > looked like pure prolixity to me.
>> > >
>> > > Dissertation. You would need a brain?
>> >
>> > Actually, it was just what I suggested, among other things.
>> > Things such as yapping, logorrhea, verbal wankery, etc.
>>
>> Yeah. I just realized, cross posting... I guess that you are on a NG
>> incompatible with the others listed and where it is giving users a
>> headache to use their brain.
>>
>> Wonder who started the first post that necesitate you take advil. At
>> least tell us which is your NG so we know to avoid it.
>>
>> J.
>
> He doesn't have a newsgroup, he is a harasser, spinic, and abuser, who
> moves across groups criticising things he has no knowledge about.
Just like you, fuckwad? Speaking of having no newsgroup, you can't post
to quite a few!
> This is because his real life is so miserable he believes he is going
> down--or has gone down--the tubes, and wants to drag as many people as
> possible down into his misery.
Projection noted.
> Because remember, misery loves company.
You've made friends dumpster diving? About time, it's taken you quite a
few years to do so. I'm sure once they get to know you that they'll
despise you just like everyone else.
AAM added.
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Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
<flush>
no
..........
Jean Guernon wrote in message <3E1FC16B...@globetrotter.net>...
>
>
>no a crit :
Jean Guernon
my eyes.
J.
no
ruler of alt.p.n" who knows all about drugs and molecular tidbits. Now he
says Advil. Must be he really is embarrassed. He loves to crosspost to
politics groups. His superstitions are weird. People couldn't speak until
6000 years ago. That's something he's fought many people with. I've never
seen him run away ashamed like this. His brain cells might be in the wrong
houses.
.................
John Griffin wrote in message ...
>Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
>
>> John Griffin a crit :
>> >
>> > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
>> > > John Griffin a crit :
Jean Guernon
Edmond Wollmann a écrit :
>
> Jean Guernon wrote:
> >
> > John Griffin a écrit :
> > >
> > > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
> > > > John Griffin a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
> > > > >
> > > > > > [ other topics ]
> > > >
> > > > > > But again, you are right to say that "knowing Nostradamus astrology
> > > > > > doesn't make him an expert on Nostradamus prophecies", far from it. They
> > > > > > just don't mix.
> > > > >
> > > > > THANK GOD!!!! Lots of people have been worried sick. No mind
> > > > > should be afflicted with both of those superstitions.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, what the hell was all that other stuff? It
> > > > > looked like pure prolixity to me.
> > > >
> > > > Dissertation. You would need a brain?
> > >
> > > Actually, it was just what I suggested, among other things.
> > > Things such as yapping, logorrhea, verbal wankery, etc.
> >
> > Yeah. I just realized, cross posting... I guess that you are on a NG
> > incompatible with the others listed and where it is giving users a
> > headache to use their brain.
> >
> > Wonder who started the first post that necesitate you take advil. At
> > least tell us which is your NG so we know to avoid it.
> >
> > J.
>
> He doesn't have a newsgroup, he is a harasser, spinic, and abuser, who
> moves across groups criticising things he has no knowledge about.
Ha ok, that figures. Thank you very much.
> This is because his real life is so miserable he believes he is going
> down--or has gone down--the tubes, and wants to drag as many people as
> possible down into his misery.
> Because remember, misery loves company.
LOL the fellowship of the bottle then? ;-)
J.
no
...........
Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <3E2034...@earthlink.net>...
>Jean Guernon wrote:
>>
>> John Griffin a crit :
>> >
>> > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
>> > > John Griffin a crit :
no
know though.
.................
Peter Lemesurier wrote in message ...
Jean Guernon
Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
OPf course Peter, but prove us that you are not a little weasel just
jumping to make more shit.
Tell us, what is it I don't understand in this miserable loser post?
Come on...Waiting...
I didn't think so.
Fucking loser that have no clue.
You should talk BTW, your lack of fundamental understanding of French,
and your despise for the French Seer prophetic work, prevent you from
understanding any of the prophecies you taint by daring to touch.
You are jealous because the Seer outshines your miserable attempt to
debunk him thank to me.
This is just the beginning.
J.
no
groups. LOL. You should see how he reads Nosty's Preface to Cesar.
...................
Cujo wrote in message ...
>Edmond Wollmann <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote in
>news:3E2034...@earthlink.net:
>
>> Jean Guernon wrote:
>>>
>>> John Griffin a crit :
>>> >
>>> > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
>>> > > John Griffin a crit :
Jean Guernon
Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
>
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:19:23 +0100, "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> either
> wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>
> >> "Exploitation" (of the prophecies) is the key word here. You make up
> >> sensationalist publication making the Seer a fraud because
>
> Which publications are they, then, exactly?
>
> >>
> >> 1- you don't have the wits to decipher the prophecies, and
>
> Whereas you, with your obviously replendent and finely honed
>
Thank you for recognizing it.
Case closed.
J.
no
while important matters dominate the news. Why? Hmm.
..................
Peter Lemesurier wrote in message ...
Jean Guernon
Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
>
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:19:23 +0100, "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> either
> wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>
> >> "Exploitation" (of the prophecies) is the key word here. You make up
> >> sensationalist publication making the Seer a fraud because
>
> Which publications are they, then, exactly?
I post your lies to the world, that the seer is no prophet no astrologer
no doctor, and I debunk them to the bone.
>
> >>
> >> 1- you don't have the wits to decipher the prophecies, and
>
> Whereas you, with your obviously replendent and finely honed
> intellect...
No comment, it is exact.
>
> >>
> >> 2. you can fool your anglophone public by pretending you possess the
> >> language which you don't.
>
> Whereas you, knowing no Latin and virtually no 16th century French --
Lie, I know old french I have it in my blood, you ignore old french
connotation even when I put your bog nose in it. You are a disgrace to
Nostradamian everywhere and keep lying about reputable exegetes because
you have a superiority complex. And you are such a pussy you don't read
the replies, so that you can ignore the rebuttals.
> or at least totally ignoring the latter in your interpretations -- do.
> Sure, sure...
Bullshit lie. As usual. The proof is on google for all to see for your
futile attempt to make a repeat of all your total incompetence mostly
debunked and got to weasel out as soon as you got a hit amongst our
mountain of incompetence. You had no balls to prove anything. Keep
holding company with the little anti-semite weasels that kiss your ass.
You fool only them.
>
> >>
> >> Me I have been faithful to the word of the seer and my works are in the
> >> continuation of a long lineage (matter o speaking) of HONEST exegetes
> >> who truly researched the quatrains and the history of the world. I (and
> >> my predecessor) have the most advanced research in the world even though
> >> it could be improved. It takes 10 years of total dedication to achieve
> >> that.
>
> And, of course, ignoring all the reputable research since 1867 except
> Dufresne, who based himself almost totally on it...
Lie and total lie and more lies.
I extensively use everything that is available and you know it even if
you pretend to ignore it, but NOT to debunk the seer,.
All you can do is lie and lie even more to try to discredit those who
show you for what you are, a fraud. No wonder in retrospect, that you
lie like a "chiffonier".
>
> >>
> >> Every single book you publish tries to destroy these centuries of honest
> >> research. Because of the oddity, you have success, and you don'T care it
> >> won't last when people see they are fooled, you come up with even more
> >> outrageous claim that you can only prove buy making up what the language
> >> the real facts are actually in (Latin and French) says to corroborate
> >> your lies an thwart the texts to your advantage.
>
> You've actually seen my two new books, then, and weighed up all the
> evidence in them carefully, have you? Gee, the marvels of
> precognition!
I shit on your books because they are from you.
You rip off reputable researchersd and make up conclusions of your own
that have ABSOLUTELY no scientific value. You take good work from honest
researchers, and you make shit out of it good for toilet paper, and then
stamp your own copyright on it.
Let you show the evidence on this NG.
Or keep lying...
As you wish.
I will keep debunking your sorry ass.
>
> >>
> >> This is what I am talking about. It is incredible that you don't get
> >> what I say and compare me to you!!!! You know better. :-(
>
> I get what you say perfectly, Jean. Unfortunately.
Well then thanks for admitting your guilt, you still lie about
everything still, don't you!
J.
>
> --
> Peter
John Griffin
> no a écrit :
> >
> > John Griffin wrote in message ...
> > >Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
> > >
> > >> [ other topics ]
>
> > >> But again, you are right to say that "knowing Nostradamus astrology
> > >> doesn't make him an expert on Nostradamus prophecies", far from it. They
> > >> just don't mix.
> > >
> > >THANK GOD!!!! Lots of people have been worried sick. No mind
> > >should be afflicted with both of those superstitions.
> > >
> > >By the way, what the hell was all that other stuff? It
> > >looked like pure prolixity to me.
> >
> > LOL. You should see his theories on anthropology. A hoot and more.
>
>
> I see you are still a loser with no brain nono.
This gets funnier every day. When you talk about a brain,
you're like a little kid on a bicycle challenging a guy
in a Mack truck to see who can haul the most cargo.
Until you face the fact that you're stupid, you're never
going to be able to do anything about it. Even then, it's
increasingly clear that you have little hope, but at least
you could give it a try. Listen to the things these people
tell you - they're all clearly more "brainy" than you.
Your brain is a fertile festering ground for superstitions,
and little else.
Michael
>
>
>
>> Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
>>
>> Whereas you, with your obviously replendent and finely honed
>> intellect...
>
>
Me Too? :D
Michael
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John Griffin
> Jean Guernon wrote:
> >
> > John Griffin a écrit :
> > >
> > > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
> > > > John Griffin a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote
> > > > >
> > > > > > [ other topics ]
>
> > > > > > But again, you are right to say that "knowing Nostradamus astrology
> > > > > > doesn't make him an expert on Nostradamus prophecies", far from it.
> > > > > > They just don't mix.
> > > > >
> > > > > THANK GOD!!!! Lots of people have been worried sick. No mind
> > > > > should be afflicted with both of those superstitions.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, what the hell was all that other stuff? It
> > > > > looked like pure prolixity to me.
> > > >
> > > > Dissertation. You would need a brain?
> > >
> > > Actually, it was just what I suggested, among other things.
> > > Things such as yapping, logorrhea, verbal wankery, etc.
> >
> > Yeah. I just realized, cross posting... I guess that you are on a NG
> > incompatible with the others listed and where it is giving users a
> > headache to use their brain.
> >
> > Wonder who started the first post that necesitate you take advil. At
> > least tell us which is your NG so we know to avoid it.
> >
> > J.
>
> He doesn't have a newsgroup, he is a harasser, spinic, and abuser, who
> moves across groups criticising things he has no knowledge about.
Specifics! I want specifics! If you should happen to have balls
enough to try to back up that whimpering, keep in mind that what
you're actually saying is that I disagree with you and occasionally
take the time to point out some of the idiocy and dishonesty in
the fetid clouds of verbal gas you release.
> This is because his real life is so miserable he believes he is going
> down--or has gone down--the tubes, and wants to drag as many people as
> possible down into his misery.
> Because remember, misery loves company.
Hilarious. Your continual and continuous state of having your
fucking dumb ass kicked has imbued you with a colossal case of
bitterness and resentment. You hate the butt-kicking you get,
but you're too stupid to stop asking for it.
> A mind is like a parachute; it doesn't function properly if it isn't
> open. If it doesn't STAY open, the collision with reality may be
> traumatic indeed.
Your mind is exactly like the medium that supports a
parachute, airhead.
"Wollman on reality"....HAHAHAHAHAHA HAR DE HAR HAR
Mark
news:3E20AC73...@globetrotter.net...
>
> Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
> >
> > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:19:23 +0100, "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> either
> > wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
> >
> > >> "Exploitation" (of the prophecies) is the key word here. You make up
> > >> sensationalist publication making the Seer a fraud because
> >
> > Which publications are they, then, exactly?
>
> I post your lies to the world, that the seer is no prophet no astrologer
> no doctor, and I debunk them to the bone.
But which publications...? If you know, then we have the right to know.
no
...............
Peter Lemesurier wrote in message ...
>On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:19:23 +0100, "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> either
>wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>
>>> "Exploitation" (of the prophecies) is the key word here. You make up
>>> sensationalist publication making the Seer a fraud because
>
>Which publications are they, then, exactly?
>
>>>
>>> 1- you don't have the wits to decipher the prophecies, and
>
>Whereas you, with your obviously replendent and finely honed
>intellect...
>
>>>
>>> 2. you can fool your anglophone public by pretending you possess the
>>> language which you don't.
>
>Whereas you, knowing no Latin and virtually no 16th century French --
>or at least totally ignoring the latter in your interpretations -- do.
>Sure, sure...
>
>>>
>>> Me I have been faithful to the word of the seer and my works are in the
>>> continuation of a long lineage (matter o speaking) of HONEST exegetes
>>> who truly researched the quatrains and the history of the world. I (and
>>> my predecessor) have the most advanced research in the world even though
>>> it could be improved. It takes 10 years of total dedication to achieve
>>> that.
>
>And, of course, ignoring all the reputable research since 1867 except
>Dufresne, who based himself almost totally on it...
>
>>>
>>> Every single book you publish tries to destroy these centuries of honest
>>> research. Because of the oddity, you have success, and you don'T care it
>>> won't last when people see they are fooled, you come up with even more
>>> outrageous claim that you can only prove buy making up what the language
>>> the real facts are actually in (Latin and French) says to corroborate
>>> your lies an thwart the texts to your advantage.
>
>You've actually seen my two new books, then, and weighed up all the
>evidence in them carefully, have you? Gee, the marvels of
>precognition!
>
>>>
>>> This is what I am talking about. It is incredible that you don't get
>>> what I say and compare me to you!!!! You know better. :-(
>
>I get what you say perfectly, Jean. Unfortunately.
>
>--
>Peter
>
>
no
Mark wrote in message ...
>Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
>news:3E20AC73...@globetrotter.net...
>>
>> Peter Lemesurier a crit :
>> >
>> > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:19:23 +0100, "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> either
>> > wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>> >
>> > >> "Exploitation" (of the prophecies) is the key word here. You make up
>> > >> sensationalist publication making the Seer a fraud because
>> >
>> > Which publications are they, then, exactly?
>>
>> I post your lies to the world, that the seer is no prophet no astrologer
>> no doctor, and I debunk them to the bone.
>
>But which publications...? If you know, then we have the right to know.
They're on bookshelves right now (and more popular than ever), and the
Muslims love them. Especially the maps. ;) Actually like strawman
arguments, which later make everything seem fraudulent though at the time
Peter was sincerely...wrong.
..............
no
books.
................
Peter Lemesurier wrote in message ...
>On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:19:23 +0100, "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> either
>wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>
>> The only
>>one, as far as I can see, that
>>keeps it open, (his interpretations) to scrutiny is PLM.
>
>Thank you, WH.
>
>Possibly that is because, generally speaking, he doesn't even offer
>interpretations!
>
>--
>Peter
>
>
Mark
news:17745-3E...@storefull-2153.public.lawson.webtv.net...
>
> lickety-lickety,
> slurp slurp slurp!
Ummm... I think you meant to email Dani with this... sorry to eavesdrop.
:(
John Griffin
You insignificant pukes are going to hurt my feelings. <snicker>
John Griffin
> It is my pleasure to tell you to go fuck yourself then, with delight in
> my eyes.
I'm glad there's one thing you're capable of telling someone.
No one could be as hopeless as you'd be without that.
yuk yuk yuk.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>It is my pleasure to tell you to go fuck yourself then, with delight in
>my eyes.
>
>J.
10 cc's of thick, hot, creamy delight!
--
V.G.
"I have not be me idiot you are still BE idiot! hahhahhahahahah!"
Theo <byj...@ch.inter.net> in alt.fan.art-bell
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
Velvet Brown #35
>>sUSAn <tugber...@webtv.net> >>wrote in message
>>news:17745-3E1F260C-22@storefull-2
>>153.public.lawson.webtv.net...
>>lickety-lickety,
>>slurp slurp slurp!
>Ummm... I think you meant to email
> Dani with this... sorry to eavesdrop.
Put your boxers back on and come down off the monitor, Mark.
>:)_.
oh, no thanks! I don't smoke.
Velvet
Peter Lemesurier
wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>You've made friends dumpster diving? About time, it's taken you quite a
>few years to do so. I'm sure once they get to know you that they'll
>despise you just like everyone else.
Are you referring to the 1555 edition of Nostradamus, or the 1557
edition? If the latter, which -- the September one or the November
one?
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>Jean Guernon <jgue...@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
>news:3E20AC73...@globetrotter.net...
>>
>> Peter Lemesurier a écrit :
>> >
>> > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:19:23 +0100, "WH" <bol...@hotmail.com> either
>> > wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>> >
>> > >> "Exploitation" (of the prophecies) is the key word here. You make up
>> > >> sensationalist publication making the Seer a fraud because
>> >
>> > Which publications are they, then, exactly?
>>
>> I post your lies to the world, that the seer is no prophet no astrologer
>> no doctor, and I debunk them to the bone.
Ah -- THOSE publications! ;)
Well, you're not making a very good job of debunking them, then, are
you?
If you wish to establish that they are lies, then you need to adduce
the evidence -- so here is the first one for you again:
"Nostradamus was not a prophet. He himself says so repeatedly in the
prefatory letters to his 'Propheties'. The latest archival evidence
(backed up by his own generalised statements) makes it quite clear
that he was merely re-interpreting, and newly re-presenting in French,
the ancient, Bible-based prophecies collected mainly in the
extraordinary 'Mirabilis liber' of 1522/3, with the aid of detailed
examples taken from history and the help of a little astrology."
Now let's see your reasoned rebuttal of that. Reasoned, mind!
>
>But which publications...? If you know, then we have the right to know.
>
>
>
>> > >>
>> > >> 1- you don't have the wits to decipher the prophecies, and
>> >
>> > Whereas you, with your obviously replendent and finely honed
>> > intellect...
>>
>> No comment, it is exact.
>>
>> >
>> > >>
>> > >> 2. you can fool your anglophone public by pretending you possess the
>> > >> language which you don't.
>> >
>> > Whereas you, knowing no Latin and virtually no 16th century French --
>>
>> Lie, I know old french I have it in my blood, you ignore old french
>> connotation even when I put your bog nose in it. You are a disgrace to
>> Nostradamian everywhere and keep lying about reputable exegetes because
>> you have a superiority complex. And you are such a pussy you don't read
>> the replies, so that you can ignore the rebuttals.
Well, I saw *this*!
And yes, I'm afraid French speakers such as yourself ARE rather prone
to assume that, because they speak modern French (or even modern
Canadian French, which is admittedly rather closer to the 16th century
version) they can read it without actually having to study it. English
speakers tend to do that with Shakespeare, too, of course. It,
similarly, is 'in their bones'. Unfortunately, though, it is not
within their knowledge.
So, perhaps you would care to demonstrate a little of that allegedly
inherited knowledge, and specifically in its Nostradamian incarnation.
What, for example, would you say is the modern meaning of the
following words as used by Nostradamus?...
1. ains
2. siecle
3. aventure
4. plusieurs
5. regner (all possible meanings)
6. sentence
7. combien que
8. & (all possible meanings)
9. republique
10. iceluy
>>
>> > or at least totally ignoring the latter in your interpretations -- do.
>> > Sure, sure...
>>
>> Bullshit lie. As usual. The proof is on google for all to see for your
>> futile attempt to make a repeat of all your total incompetence mostly
>> debunked and got to weasel out as soon as you got a hit amongst our
>> mountain of incompetence. You had no balls to prove anything. Keep
>> holding company with the little anti-semite weasels that kiss your ass.
>> You fool only them.
I'm afraid I find your argument here so abstrusely scholarly and
dispassionately academic that it is beyond my feeble brain to
comprehend. Please explain, O master.
>>
>> >
>> > >>
>> > >> Me I have been faithful to the word of the seer and my works are in
>the
>> > >> continuation of a long lineage (matter o speaking) of HONEST exegetes
>> > >> who truly researched the quatrains and the history of the world. I
>(and
>> > >> my predecessor) have the most advanced research in the world even
>though
>> > >> it could be improved. It takes 10 years of total dedication to
>achieve
>> > >> that.
>> >
>> > And, of course, ignoring all the reputable research since 1867 except
>> > Dufresne, who based himself almost totally on it...
>>
>> Lie and total lie and more lies.
>>
>> I extensively use everything that is available and you know it even if
>> you pretend to ignore it, but NOT to debunk the seer,.
>>
>> All you can do is lie and lie even more to try to discredit those who
>> show you for what you are, a fraud. No wonder in retrospect, that you
>> lie like a "chiffonier".
In that case please give us a complete run-down (and I don't mean just
a running-down, or even a dismissal of one or two bits you don't like)
-- i.e. a detailed summary -- of
Brind'Amour 1993
Brind'Amour 1996
Prevost 1999
Chevignard 1999
Chomarat & Laroche1989
Chomarat, Dupebe and Polizzi 1997
Benazra 1990
Britnell and Stubbs 1986
Leroy 1993
Le Vert 1979
Rollet 1993
I'm sure everybody here would be fascinated to hear your take on all
these absolutely fundamental pieces of research into the subject.
>>
>> >
>> > >>
>> > >> Every single book you publish tries to destroy these centuries of
>honest
>> > >> research. Because of the oddity, you have success, and you don'T care
>it
>> > >> won't last when people see they are fooled, you come up with even
>more
>> > >> outrageous claim that you can only prove buy making up what the
>language
>> > >> the real facts are actually in (Latin and French) says to corroborate
>> > >> your lies an thwart the texts to your advantage.
>> >
>> > You've actually seen my two new books, then, and weighed up all the
>> > evidence in them carefully, have you? Gee, the marvels of
>> > precognition!
>>
>> I shit on your books because they are from you.
Ah, well, in the face of such carefully considered literary criticism,
what can I possibly say?
>>
>> You rip off reputable researchersd and make up conclusions of your own
>> that have ABSOLUTELY no scientific value.
That's certainly some claim. Up to you now to demonstrate it with
rational argument and dispassionate demonstration, then, isn't it?...
>> You take good work from honest
>> researchers, and you make shit out of it good for toilet paper, and then
>> stamp your own copyright on it.
Are you referring to the work of Pierre Brind'Amour, on whom everybody
including you, would do well to base their work, and because of whom
(as Jacqueline Allemend, Director of the Maison de Nostradamus at
Salon-de-Provence enthusiastically points out) even some French
universities are at last starting to take Nostradamus seriously as a
16th century writer?
And are you ignoring what he himself wrote at the front of his 1996
work, shortly before he died fo cancer?...
"Cette édition représente un premier effort. La qualité des résultats
obtenus devrait encourager d’autres chercheurs à la reprendre et à
étendre l’entreprise au restant des centuries."
Pierre Brind'Amour (d. January 1995):
Introduction to Nostradamus: Les premières centuries ou
prophéties
And are YOU duly doing what he suggested?
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier
wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>Oh well. Some women need strange things to be satisfied.
Yes, Nostradamus wrote a whole book on the subject.
Nowadays it is best known as the 'Traité des fardemens et confitures'.
Basically, it's what I usually refer to here as his 'cookbook'.
--
Peter
John Griffin
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:26:18 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>
> >Projections noted. He is, like the rest of us, laughing at you. There is
> >no misery involved, except for what you must feel after all your attempts
> >to kick people off their ISPs and your empty threats of law suits.
>
> Did you know that Nostradamus once went to law to prevent his
> publisher Brotot from publishing a mangled version of one of his
> annual Almanachs?
Holy shit! You mean the nonsense the believers are poring over
is the good stuff?!?!?!
Peter Lemesurier
Griffin) either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>> Did you know that Nostradamus once went to law to prevent his
>> publisher Brotot from publishing a mangled version of one of his
>> annual Almanachs?
>
>Holy shit! You mean the nonsense the believers are poring over
>is the good stuff?!?!?!
Hee hee!
--
Peter
Cardinal Chunder
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 13:09:46 +0000, Cardinal Chunder
> <c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> either wrote or (if so marked)
> quoted:
>
>
>>Didn't Nosty do the same though? Turdi might be right when he says he's
>>following the same "Divine Astrology Methodology" - just make up any old
>>shit off the top of your head so long as it is cryptic, ultra vague or
>>catch-all.
>
>
> Hence the name Turdi?
Exactly!
Seriously, the guy is so laughably bad it is a wonder he has any
clients. Imagine trying to scam people with a 'doctorate' bought from a
diploma mill.
Dr. Turi
Subject: predictions
Man DT is right on the money with the supernova window and mars. Planes
are going down all over and oil prices are going up. Check the USAtoday
front page on the www. Visit his site www.drturi.com and see it for
yourself!I got the Moon Power 2003 book it was all printed last year. AMAZING
guy! Bye, ///m
DrPostman
The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
with:
This fake crap doesn't help you dumbass. And you never mentioned aircraft
crashes when you make your vague nonsense "predictions". All you can
do is postdict, and badly at that.
--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: jamie_eckles(at)hotmail.com
"Your name is "Bruce," and my first name is also "Bruce.""
-Idiot The Bruce
Woodswun
>Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:51 PM
>Subject: predictions
You've misspelled "postdictions". Again.
Woods
Jeffrey Jupiter
>Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:51 PM
>Subject: predictions
>
>
>
>
>Man DT is right on the money with the supernova window and mars. Planes
>are going down all over and oil prices are going up. Check the USAtoday
>front page on the www. Visit his site www.drturd.com and see it for
>yourself!I got the Moon Power 2003 book it was all printed last year. AMAZING
>guy! Bye, ///m
What a complete load of bullshit. Turi, you must be completely
delusional to post this nonsense to a public forum. You are totally
incapable of realizing what an utter fool your stupid posts make you
appear to be.
It is also obvoius that your ficticious toadies are as illiterate and
stupid as you are. It's highly likely, when looking at the history of
such posts, that all the accolades you post are generated by the same
person, probably one of the illiterate small-brained weirdos who are
participaring in your scam.
Remember when you advertised glowing blessings from one of your sock
puppets on usenet last year?
>from http://pub59.ezboard.com/bdrturisstarforum
>
>Queen of England
>
>
>Dr. Turi...
>
>You write for March 30, 31: Famous Personalities: Some famous people
>will be called back to God.
>
>As always you are accurate. Sadly, the Queen of England died.
>
>Janet
>
>
>You nailed it Dr.Turi AGAIN
"Janet" is one of your illiterate and weak-minded sock puppets.
You deserve to be locked up and deported, Turdi.
Dr. Turi
VERY SMALL SAMPLE OF FEEDBACK
FROM THE WORLD ABOUT MY WORK …
I wish to share another story coming from this desperate mother and her child.
Here is her letter, my response and her feedback for you to appreciate true
guidance.
From: Mrs.//////
Subject: RE: Question regarding lifetime reading on a child 17 yrs old.
Hi Dr. Turi
I was just wondering if you give lifetime readings on teenagers. My son is 17
yrs old
now and has been having a very rough time. He was hospitalized 2 yrs ago for
Major Depression, Obsessive Disorder and hearing voices. He's a lot better now
but still very angry at the world. He was born on 07/04/1984. I was reading
your book on "The Power of the Dragon." I'm convinced about what you say. I do
notice more aggressive behavior between my son and I during a full moon. It
seems that when he was in the hospital he tried very hard to control his
behavior but at times he would just look at me and say that it was beyond his
control. He just needed to be defiant. He needed to voice his anger out. What
would be the price? So far what you've said about his sign is just on the
button. If he does have this pull to be violent I would like to have as much
help and so would he --- to know what to do to avoid any events that would set
him off. By the way, he keeps telling his Social Worker and Doctors that he's
felt out of sync with Society since the 1st grade. He's very intelligent! Just
doesn't understand why everyone cannot see what he see about life and would
just rather die then live in this stupid and morbid world... Please let me
know how much this would cost.
Mrs. //////
My reply…
From June ////////.
Dear Dr.Turi:
The work you did for my son Robert was right on the money. Your words spoke
his life. He was involved in witnessing an act of another student that brought
the police into our lives. Thank God and his stars that Robert had nothing to
do with it, but this kid was a FRIEND of his and Rob saw him do an act that
brought in the police. In this small town, the police knew that Rob knew him
and brought him in for questioning. These kinds of friends, he does not need.
It has been seen that Rob in truth had nothing to do with this and did indeed
leave the situation, however, his just being there invited trouble and your
work has pointed that out to him. Your work certainly helped him to see and
better understand his strengths and weaknesses. I have also had a strong sense
about Robert since he was born and it was an incredible experience to hear his
chart. He is quite remarkable, intelligent, sensitive, good-hearted and older
and wiser than his years, intuitive and his goal for a few years now was to
get into the medical profession, either with surgery or psychology. You were
absolutely right. He is an avid reader and student...but YES... he seems to
always have a desire to check out what the rest of the world is doing on the
other end and he is beginning to realize that it may just not be worth
sticking your head around those corners. So... thank you Dr. Turi for being
wonderful and right ON as usual!!!
God bless you. Love you
June/////
==================
From: ///" <///@hotmail.com>
Hello, Dr. Turi...
Your reading was totally excellent. I like your astrology much better than the
traditional Western kind... but if I hadn't been a student of some kind of
astrology in the first place I probably wouldn't have known what the hell you
were talking about. But I did, and I am much the better for it. This is a
tremendous resource and I thank you for all the good energy you put into it.
Sincerely,
William
===================
Dear Dr. Turi:
I really hope that consciousness is raised, and people take your work
seriously. I sent you a previous message regarding your information on Neptune
and now I have read it all the way through and I am blown away. A while ago, I
was thinking about the course and I had questions about it and whether or not
I should do it and your information addressed precisely what I needed to
know....I am not really surprised...and of course, you have mentioned to me on
two occasions that my chart indicates natural tendencies to learn and teach
Astropsychology. Wow! I am taking it in! Thanks, you are soooo great! And it
is great to have you on the planet at this time! Love, Sabrina
==============
Subject: Re: Show
I gave you full credit on the show just after the massive Taiwan earthquake
and the Turkey aftershock on Sept 20.... Got a lot of email from people who
were watching the date prediction as well. Marvelous. The nice thing about it
is how you understate these things and never gloat about them when you hit.
Had another fine program with John Hogue last night. Be well, my friend.
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///////pl.nasa.gov> To: "<drt...@goodnet.com
Kudos to you Dr. Turi!
I surf the Internet periodically for predictions on forthcoming events,
specifically relating to earthquake activities. You hit the 11/22/95
Egypt/Israel/Saudi Arabia 7.2 quake smack dab on the head, per your earlier
prediction. Congratulations again! If possible, I would really appreciate your
sending me a copy of your "free" 1996 Top Universal Predictions. My email
address is: ////cmail.jpl.nasa.com
Keep up the good work. Appreciatively,////
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It appears that Dr.Turi has "hit" one...later computations on the Fiji quakes
of 1/27/98 place at least one of those quakes above M6...as the cases catalog
is updated, percentages etc. will appear in the regularly appearing Dr.Turi
report.. Good job Dr. Turi!!!!!
Jr. John
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Dr. Turi,
The compatibility comparison you e-mailed me last Thurs (02-28) is very
insightful, to say the least. The lady I referred to (you referred to her as
"HERM") is named Deborah and is also interested in your works. In fact, she
informed me that she e-mailed you the next day (after reading what you sent
me).She is impressed with your response to her! We are both Virgos
(09-19, her--09-08,me) and have much in common and your info has reinforced
our opinions of each other. Wish I'd known the positives of such a pairing
years ago!
I'm sending you this feedback because I believe you may be interested to
know how you've been able to help someone.
Again, many thanks !
Sincerely, Phillip
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Subject: Question?? Help regarding recent full life reading
Dr. Turi: I'm impressed. You were right on with the recent earthquake. On page
147-149 in your moon power book for August 17th thru the 21 you write "Pluto
does not care much about the new Moon and could disturb the earth's belly,
producing a bad earthquake."
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Hello Dr. Turi, Another hit a 7.8 earthquake. Thank you for everything. I feel
like I have the key to the world after taking your class. I really would like
to learn how you know what plants are in charge, like Pluto and Jupiter right
now. Is it possible for a Sightings listener to get the Celestial Dating Game
for half price? And do you sale tapes of your lecture Thought Power, and your
work shop The Power Within? Barbara in Fairbanks Ark,
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You are a true jewel with a gift in which you are able to give direction to
ones life...you will help me follow the road signs of life!!!! THANKS
AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
Lisa
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Dear Dr. Turi,
In 1998 I received a full life reading from you. I still listen to it off and
on and it is truly amazing how your predictions have come to pass. Do. Thank
you and continued success in all your endeavors! Sincerely,
Ch///////sen
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Dear Louis:
Hello! I cannot tell you how much you have helped me in my soul searching.
I am finally sure that my recipe for success is sure to come in the next two
years. I know we will have many more encounters in the future. I cannot put
a price tag on the valuable information you have given me. I believe you are
one of my guardian angels!
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Dr. Turi
I wanted to extend my thanks for being that wind under my wings and clearing
the fog a whole lot to the road that I've been on in this life since birth.
Before ordering a full-life reading from you, I kept a dream journal by my bed
and write in it every morning after digesting the information that was being
sent to me through my dreams. Since receiving my full-life reading, the
interpretation of the symbolism the Universe wishes me to know has become less
cloudy and sharply more clear and understandable.
After waking up this morning from a night of praying and honoring the cycle of
life, I began writing in my journal of my previous night's dreams. My dreams
speak to me and show me the way when I'm indecisive. I also dreamt of you
before I ever even heard of you or seen you on the internet. I am not stating
all of this to boast my ego about my abilities; rather, after jotting in my
journal this morning, I began reading previous journal
entries.
After some browsing I was set back, I had a dream of the collision of the two
jets that collided into the World Trade Center in New York. The dream I had
put me on a street celebration of the up-coming Mexican Independence Day
celebration (Sept. 15, 2001) and two fully-loaded fuel tankers were
approaching each other head-on. They were all-chrome and highly polished like
that of jet planes fuselages; they were approaching each other in slow-motion
and began to buckle after touching / contacting each other. I was in the
middle of the two buckling tank carriers and didn't understand why I was there
and why those tankers were in an Independence Day parade. I didn't understand
my dream then, but after reading it this morning I had a deep-indescribable
realization. You have been an affirming catalyst for my abilities and my
closer connection with all the universe's creations, beauty, understanding,
and purpose and we still have never met each other. I thank you again, you
are; Mon frere de' mon esprit! I was also interested in taking your
Astro-psychology class this fall and wanted to read your books to get an
advanced and richer feel of your work before taking the course in person.
I Thank You,---Sal ///
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Dear Dr. Turi;
I got your e-mail messages. I will send it along to as many friends as I can.
This past weekend I was reading through my 2001 Moon Guide for this month and
I was wondering what could happen, what sort of news would come from the
Middle East. Unfortunately, look what happened. Your predictions are
incredible and once again I will tell you how much I am looking forward to
your class in October. I actually had a dream on Sunday evening of a plane
crash. From you schedule on your website, I noticed that you are going to San
Francisco soon. PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF!!
Love – M///
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Dear Dr. Turi Louis
You're right, I am into astrology now. I even planned my trip next week in
accordance to the New Moon coming up on 1/13/02. And my traditional outlook on
religion and spirituality has shifted into a whole new paradigm. Astrology
(and the re-incarnation theory) has brought to the table – many legitimate
questions that need to be asked concerning God and the nature of who he really
is and how we relate to him and the universe....I've developed my 'own' theory
thus far which I never would have been able to do if not for your reading. I
feel my journey from this point forward will only get more exciting and
rewarding. And I have to say that for the first time in my life, I feel a
feeling of liberation. I feel like I just took off an old pair of trousers
(traditional religion) which I have worn for 34 years and now slipped into a
nice satin robe (freedom to ask questions and seek the truth).
I appreciate the gift. P
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Dr. Turi
says...
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>Dear Dr. Turi,
Although you most probably did not construct my reading, as I assume you are
busy and have staff to help with such basic tasks, I would nonetheless like
you to know that the description (of me) constructed from your system was
quite accurate. I am not easily swayed by others' proclamations or inflated
beliefs in their abilities. still, although customarily skeptical about
people's claims about themselves, I am intensely curious in genuine phenomena
and that is why I spent some of my hard-earned money to read an astrological
description about myself and to judge the accuracy of the comments. I can tell
you about your analysis, assuming that might interest you. It is about as
accurate as you can get in these circumstances. For instance, I am a
psychologist, am involved in research and teaching, have done oil painting in
my youth and feel a need to return to that activity at this time in my life. I
have also written one novel and will refashion my dissertation for publication
soon, then write another novel and will also paint large abstract canvases.
(By the way, my dissertation explored the experiences of families of
incarcerated nonviolent drug offenders, i.e., the "prison" connection in your
analysis.) The personality attributes are congruent also. I am very
determined, will work until I drop, but prefer to have my own agenda and
prefer privacy to public show. Detail-oriented and a perfectionist, I, however
do not want to be a manager of others. It is an accurate observation that I
always prefer to be in the background and not in the limelight, despite the
fact that I take tremendous pride in my work of psychotherapy, art, writing
and intimations about people. Attraction to abstract ideas is very strong. I
am currently absorbing chaos theory, aka nonlinear dynamical theory, and its
relationship to psychology. I have always been fascinated by astrology but
upon initial inquiry found it thoroughly confusing. I would like to design my
future rather than have it designed for me: teaching psychology to
undergraduates, writing and painting, and applying chaos theory and astrology
to psychotherapy...something physical, too, like alpine skiing or
calisthenics. Very interesting, quite accurate and certainly fascinating!
Merci beaucoup.
Judith
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Dr. Turi,
I enjoyed meeting you at Oasis and am enjoying your book (Linda loaned me a
copy). I need to buy one to get an autographed copy. I like posting friends
and good things on our web site. Your book is up on our site at this time and
during the next couple of weeks I will be re-organizing and upgrading our web
site so it will be easier to find.
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Dear Dr. Turi: I really hope that consciousness is raised, and people take
your work seriously.
Again, another prediction of yours came true. You wrote (Moon Power 2001 for
Sept 1-6) under Family and Friends: Spend some time with the children, teach
them love and harmony as Mars may make them play rough. Be aware around water.
You even gave us an example of a prediction of yours that came true a couple
of years ago to reminded us which was: Remember my prediction about children
playing rough with Mars. (Moon Power 1997 page 116) Memo: Water slide
collapses kills one, injures 32--An amusement park water slide collapsed
Monday June 2nd, 1997 after a group of high school seniors on a graduation
outing ignored a lifeguard's warning and went down together. One student was
killed and 32 were injured, six critically. Be aware; watch the kids around
water. Well today, September 2, 2001 the news reported a 10 year old boy dies
in a shark attack in Virginia. It makes sense to me, Dr. Turi, that you could
not have been any clearer in your predictive words "BE AWARE; WATCH THE KIDS
AROUND WATER." Additionally, under "Environment" in Moon Power 2001, you
stated "Disturbing news from the sea." I think a shark attack would fit that
category as well!!!!! Divine astrology is so right on! Thank you, again Dr.
Turi.
M ///
VIRGINIA BEACH, Virginia (CNN) -- Beaches were open Sunday just hours after a
10-year-old boy died from injuries suffered when a shark attacked him in water
4 feet deep Saturday evening.
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Dear Dr Turi,
I listened attentively to your radio broadcast last night with Jeff Rense on
1080 AM KOTK in Portland, Oregon, and thoroughly enjoyed every second of it.
Thank you for that. In fact, I am ordering the tape/s of the program last
night, and have just ordered a "Full Personal Report" and a "Career Path
Interpretation." from your web site . Thank you for being on the show. I did
not realize you were a monthly feature on his show. I am a new AM radio
listener, and eagerly look forward to your next month's appearance. I would
like to send you my personal best wishes for your individual and professional
success as you dedicate your life's pursuits to helping others realize theirs.
Much appreciation and thankfulness!
-David ////
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Dr Turi,
A quick thank you. - Yesterday was my birthday. We closed my celebration by
listening to the taped life reading that you did for me that was a gift from
my wife, Diane. I have to say that your every word resonated with what I know
about myself, and I heard nothing that was not relevant to my life situation
at this point in time. What you were able to do for me is to offer a glimpse
of a comprehensive context for my life that I was not aware of before. I am a
seeker, and the many elements of my inner life are familiar friends -- how
these elements relate to each other is something that has been often difficult
to integrate and reconcile. I look forward to repeat listening of my tape as I
clarify the aspects of my life that need more attention and reinforcement.
Thank you, Dr. ///ey
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Dr. Turi,
First I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for having the
opportunity to learn from you. I have studied the metaphysical for most of my
life, but I turned away from astrology early because it simply didn't make any
sense. It was a lot of work for very little substance and it seemed to me that
the people who used it became too dependent on astrology and not on their own
decision making process. (I always tell people that you're the gift, not the
book. God made you!) . Things I thought were going to happen never
materialize. I tried really hard to launch my new career, but my soul has felt
like it has been lost for a very long time. I had decided to die, and to make
a long story short was in the process of rebuilding when I heard you on Jeff
Rense. You have brought me to a place spiritually where my algebra teacher
brought me to mathematically, and once again I feel new blood running through
my veins.
Go with light! Barbara
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Dear Dr. Turi:
Thank-you for the reading. I appreciate your work. It helped alot. I guess I
have to stay with it. I feel like I know who I am more and more all the time.
By the way, I am a chiropractor. I written two books and now I am writing my
third book. I have deep metaphysical connection although, I would like much
more. I am married 22 years and have two adult children even tho I am only 44.
I feel this change coming soon and you confirmed that for me, thanks. I also
had an experience about three weeks before I decided to get a reading from you
of two past lives. I was out for a walk and I have a physical experience and
vision of being hanged and guillotined. You said that also in the reading.
That was a profound confirmation. I just wanted to thank you.
Sincerely,
Dr. ///s
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Dr. Turi:
Thank you so much for your information had mentioned to Di the fact that our
resort is conducting several lectures over the period Christmas New years
leading to year 2000. One of them will be in astrology and having read two of
your books, I thought it would be ideal if you could conduct this lecture,
which we hope to be entertaining and intriguing to the audience. Our Resort is
presently amongst the top four in the world and our company based in Dallas,
Texas operates a collection of five star properties around the world. If you
fell that this would be possible (in principle), please let me know and I
could provide you with additional details. The lecture would not be more than
an hour and a half, and it is planned for December 21st 1999.Of course all
travel expenses, lodging and food and the resort would cover beverage and the
engagement fee would need to be arranged.
Best Regards,
////////////
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Subject: radio show
Hi Dr. Turi,
Thanks for your nice letter about being on my show. You did a wonderful job
and I would like to have you back on again sometime. I'll give you a call.
Thanks, P////
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Good Morning Dr. Turi..I just wanted to say thank you so very much for doing
such an excellent show with me last on 9-25-99. Skylord, in particular, felt
vindicated in the work she now does as a lightworker. I
am looking forward to another broadcast with you soon.
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Hi Dr. Turi, I read your forecast with interest. Seems right on, it's a
strange week. Also, I'd like to book you again for the show. I had lots of
nice comments on your last appearance. You're very popular! My next openings
are Christmas night, and New Years night. The first show of the millennium if
we don't get Y2Ked! Let me know if either of these works for you. If not, we
can go into January 2000. Wow, sounds like a long time away but it's not!
Again, thanks for your participation on the show. I really enjoyed hearing
about your UFO experiences, too. Patte Purcell, the Next Dimension
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Dr. Turi,
Thank you I got the reading and it is awesome. I have listened to
you on Sightings and was always impressed by what you had to say. Your
accuracy is 100% and it has given me much insight. The information will help
me to go far. I have the 2000 starguide and use it everyday. I read last night
for 1-20 to 1-23 and many of the predictions came true. I have always paid
heed to the new and full moon. My sister is wanting to get a reading done and
can't wait as she has a deep interest in "true astrology" as I do.
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Dear Dr. Turi:
Last February when you was going to be on Jeff Rense's radio show, I sent in
an E-Mail Paul 12-27-1952). On of the things you said, was that it involved
electricity. Well, believe it or not, when I was doing some electrical work on
my house, I said to myself, there's got to be a better way of doing this. So,
for three years, sat in front of my computer and designed some products I hope
will make an electrician's job easier. In fact, it is a line of products I
hope I will be able to produce. I'm going to see a lawyer soon to get the
patent process going. It was kind of a blow to my ego when you didn't see
anything regarding the two areas I enjoy the most, music and writing. Merci
Monsieur Turi
Paul///
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Dear Dr. Turi, thank you for your reading last night on UFO Roundtable with
Larry Jamison. I was the one called Skylord. The Leo who has to become like
the Queen of Light--i have been working on that for 3 years now--family and
friends did not understand until they heard your reading. I don't feel crazy
now, I knew I had to be this way but to hear that I'm supposed too, made all
the difference in the world---you validated my path for me and others, thank
you--and of course I will be ordering your book. Please come back and do the
show again--sometimes I help Larry do it or co-host---your new found friend/
Skylord 8/15/51
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I just got done reading you monthly and daily forecast. It w as incredible
because everything you said pertained to me in some way. I feel better to know
that having fait in the decisions I am going to make will result in the long
run. God puts special people on this earth to help others and you are
definitely one of those people. I am beginning to understand the stars better
and better. THANK YOU
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY
Melissa
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Special 2001 Issue - Printed in my yearly book Moon Power in June 2000 – The
date and printing process makes the prediction unarguable.
AMERICA UNDER ATTACK—PREDICTED!
At 8:45 a.m. 9/11/2001 EDT, the first of two airliners crashed into the World
Trade Center, opening a horrifying and apparently coordinated terrorist attack
on the United States, which saw the collapse of the two 110-story towers into
surrounding Manhattan streets and a later attack on the Pentagon.
Full Moon - September 2, 2001 in the sign of Pisces: Because of
Uranus/Neptune and Saturn impact these days, expect some surprising
developments to take place in the near future. Pisces rules the Middle East,
religion, drugs, alcohol, deception, the difficult abortion dilemma, the Pope,
the church, oil, etc. This energy can affect sophisticated electronic
equipment and produce a bad aeronautic accident. Just be ready to provide as
much help as needed and do not lose faith in the future. More devastating
forces producing destructive weather and flooding in the very near future.
Expect a general feeling of hopelessness plaguing the media and the church
authorities. Deceiving news will take place and affect many of us; some
desperate souls will fall for Neptune’s suicidal tendency and some will end up
in jail or a mental institution. This trend will be very difficult for some,
but do not lose faith in yourself and trust the Universe; get all the help you
can to fight Neptune’s depressive tendencies; keep busy and let go of the
past. Life must go on. Expect shocking news with volcanoes, earthquakes,
tornadoes etc. Expect anything surprising, even incredible to take place soon
and see the real power of both Uranus, the planet of sudden release of energy
in action and Saturn forcing the government to take drastic actions.
June 7, 2001 - Printed in the United States of America
Special 2002 Issue - Unlimited Edition e-Book only
NOSTRADAMUS 2002 DRAGON FORECAST
Pluto in Sagittarius: Pluto moved from Scorpio to Sagittarius on November
11th, 1995 and will stay in this sign until January 26, 2008. Constrained to
face the horrible consequences of his own destructive power, and pay the heavy
consequences of mass destruction, man turns to religion for comfort. In
Sagittarius (religion) Pluto (regeneration) will promote a disturbing wave of
religious fanaticism that will plague the world. In the US, the impact of
Pluto in Sagittarius has already spoken with some religious fanatics,
committing serious crimes, and many will have to pay the ultimate price for
their destructive behavior. Some Middle Eastern residents have also shocked
the world, and will keep spawning suicidal bomb attacks, on major European and
US cities. The "contract" they sign with their manipulators, before blowing
themselves up, surrounded by the highest possible number of innocent victims,
promises "the martyrs" twenty or more virgins after an immediate entrance to
paradise!
Hello Dr. Turi!
You're are amazing Sir! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me. What's
it going to take for people to listen? When will they stop believing all the
deceiving BULLSHIT they've deluded themselves with, and begin to seek TRUE
WISDOM in the STARS, WISDOM uncorrupted by mankind's hands, WISDOM uncorrupted
by the RELIGIOUS AGENDA, WISDOM in the STARS? What's interesting is the date
of this attack on the UNITED STATES. That date is "9-11," or "911," the
telephone number dialed when there is an emergency. I really hope that
consciousness is raised, and people take your work seriously. /////
Stay In Touch Please. Sometimes I fear the worst.
Jo@//////.com,
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Dr. Turi
jef...@pete-stapleton-is-a-kook.hugh-jeffcoat-is-a-psychotic-fag.org says...
>"Janet" is one of your illiterate and weak-minded sock puppets.
>
>You deserve to be locked up and deported, Turdi.
sure...
To: drturi
Subject: Your news group reply to me.
Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:03:50 -0400
Hi Dr. Turi,
I certainly appreciate the reply you made to me on the news group. I wanted
you to know how I became aware of you. I just recently discovered news groups
and subscribed to yours simply because it dealt with prophecy. In spite of all
the negative postings, I read enough to spark an interest in your predictions.
I have now listened to some archives of your readings on the Rense show and
have read quite a bit of information on your web site (as well as info. that
was sent to me by a disgruntled news group poster, who seems to have it out
for you). So, even though I know I will be ridiculed for saying this, I am
still interested in learning more about Moon Power. The negative postings have
had no impact at all on my opinion of you. This person is hot under the collar
and does not deserve your replies. Just wanted to let you know...I am still
reading the news group and hope that the negative activity going on does not
stop you from posting the info that you provide. Thanks for all you do. Be
well,
M////
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Hello Rhonda, Thank you for the email and the gift--I look forward to reading
it. It's a thrill to be able to get a reading from Dr. Turi--I have admired
him and his work for a long time! Could you kindly add 1 copy of 2001 Moon
Power to my pre-existing order??? If so, please go ahead, if that is possible!
I would love to read/refer to it--I have found Dr. Turi's daily guidance on
his website of invaluable assistance.
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Dr. Turi: I don't know if you remember me or not but you did a reading for me
recently. Now I am telling everyone how humbled I am by your predictions and
still thinking I need to take your class. SO I am telling every one when to be
careful and watch the moon. The person who fixes my computer asked me "what is
a supernova window. Are we all going to become crispy bacon?" I told him that
I would ask you for your personal definition of supernova window. There would
you mind taking a moment and telling me what a supernova window is? Again
thanks for your time. Take good care... Brendalee W///th
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I recently received as did my girlfriend a life reading from you and it was
very, very moving. Thanks!! I think you were right on when describing my past
and present. I have many questions but must first listen several times to your
tape. Thanks Again, L//// & P/// in NYC - P.S. - Your "Moon Power Starguide
1999" is great, in fact you predicted a weird happening to a personality -
last night JFK Jr. & his wife + his wife's sister may have lost their lives in
a plane crash.
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Hey Dr. Turi!
This is Joe the Scorpio in LA. Since the moon is in Aquarius right now, I felt
compelled to say hello to you today. Did you see the NEWS today? A bomb blast
in Tokyo, JAPAN killed 40+ people. If that's not proof of the stars in
action!!! JAPAN == URANUS == Explosive- Energy AMAZING!
SEE: http://www.msnbc.com/news/622404.asp?pne=msn Bye, Joe the Scorpio
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Hi Dr. Turi,
My name is S/// and I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I purchased your Moon
Power Guide 1999 from an acquaintance of yours, V/////ey. I think you're
extremely accurate in your predictions and very enthusiastically share with
others. I look forward to meeting you your next visit to Albuquerque, New
Mexico. I heard there would be a planetary alignment-taking place on August
11th along with the eclipse mentioned in your book, called a cross. This
alignment is going to influence Taurus, Scorpio, Leo and Aquarius more than
other astrological signs. Do you have any other information regarding this
alignment and its effects on people? Thank you for your time. Look forward to
hearing from you. Please reply to my e-mail address at //@swcp.com or
///@hotmail.com
S///i
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Dr. Turi,
Your right about the 25th of Feb. Here in Dallas we had tennis ball sized hail
that wrecked some hotels roofs and houses and lots of cars. This was the
biggest hailstorm seen in this area. That was the same day I was trying to
send you my test too and the lightning was bad as well. I'm not to familiar
with the term of Supernova Windows: I'm assuming you mean bad weather? The
environmental issue is really taking effect right now with OPEC raising the
price of oil it will effect this economy pretty bad. Airfares going up in
price etc.etc. Will this only escalate May 3rd 2000 on your prediction of
environmental Problems? Your predictions as I see are accurate./////de
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Dear Dr.Turi; I just received my third Moon Power book but only paid for two.
I will however, send you the $ for the third one as I can give this book to
someone who will just love it as much as I do.Thankfully and respectfully
yours Jo-Anne >(from London, Canada)
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Subject: Dr. Turi Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:45:17 -0700
Hello. My name is Denise Stevens, and I’ve been listening to your show for
about 1 year now, on KOTK in Portland, OR. I actually live across the river in
Vancouver, WA. On Thursday, I was able to get through and ask a question of
Dr. Turi. What a great experience. He nailed a couple of things for me. I was
interested in the outlook for my starting a business, and he gave me positive
feedback. I want to work out of my garage, and he said, without my stating
that, that it looked like I'd be doing it from home for a while! He also said
I had struggled with the fact that I need to "do something else" career-wise.
Boy was that the truth! For about 2+ years now I've been agonizing over what I
want to do, and for a while, I was nearly overwhelmed with it! I am not sure
how much of all the astrology stuff I believe, but Dr. Turi has a gift of some
sort, whatever it is! Thank you so much for giving people the opportunity to
speak with people like Dr. Turi. Under what other circumstances would most of
us ever get that chance? You are a real gift to us out here! Thanks again,
Denise ///ens
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Dear Dr. Turi,
In the last 3 years, I have felt a need to boost your soul. I think this is as
good a time as any. There are a lot of people that appreciate what you can see
and there are a few who can't deal with having an open mind and get extremely
scared. This shouldn’t make you try to retaliate or have to justify with these
people. You can always say how you think and if someone would like to listen
then maybe they should listen. As for the ones that don't think that it is for
them: maybe a close friend or family member will make the difference for them!
God Bless Us All!
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Louis,
Just to let you know before you go on the air, that your forecast for the past
few days is right on! We have learned from different doctors in New Mexico,
that the fires up in Los Alamos have released radioactive materials into the
environment. The doctors specifically mentioned seeing problems with
Plutonium! The media has said nothing but people are getting sick daily. We
need to get the ///// out of here!!!!!
-Chris
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Thanks Dr. Turi you are the greatest. Learning to do astrology the way you do
it has made such a difference in my life. I use it all day long every day. My
birthday is ///, I have the stars to teach astrology and that is what I want
to do, I do it all day long for everyone around me I can't help myself, I see
it in the news, the weather, everything everywhere, my cats and dogs, it's
wonderful. It is nice to know who you are dealing with, where is Nept? What
will you lie about. Where is Pl. what part of your life do you rearrange all
of the time. Where is Jupt. What do you want to learn and teach, where will
you expand and be lucky. I have Jept in the 1st house I want to teach. It is
all so wonderful. One of these days I am going to call Jeff Rense when you are
on the air and ask some general questions, so people can see how powerfull it
is. Wind, heat and fires for the next two years. With the DT in Sag. and Pl.
in Sag the list is long for what this will bring. Thank you so much Dr. Turi.
Barbara
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Hi Dr. Turi;
I just wanted to take a moment and thank you for your excellent work in the
Portland Astropsychology class. What memories you gave me! I will be smiling
for many years to come. I have been working on the "teaching aid" in my mind
and I'm about to draw it in the plane of physical reality. I am very excited.
John
===========================
Dr. Turi
I was looking at your monthly horoscope for the "full moon" in the world of
Scorpio. I read for the month of "January" and it said that "I will hear sad
and secret news from a friend".... well my friend, you were right on the
money. My best friend at the age of 37 had a massive heart attack at 3.30 in
the morning on the 18th of May. He had to have an angioplasty because an
artery was blocked. Now if that isn’t sad news from a friend I do not know
what is... Love and Light
Rhonda
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Dr. Turi, I realize I am only one of thousands of people writing to you with
their messages of appreciation and that perhaps I am only just another e-mail.
I do not mean to suggest that you are not concerned-only that you are too busy
to respond to them all. But when my "perfect" life took a drastic turn for the
worst on April (I lost my new marriage, my beloved work, friends) I thought
someone had "hexed" me or some sort of evil had infiltrated my life-I didn't
know, I just didn't know why this was happening. Luckily, your tape came and
now I know that the head and tail of the dragon are in my sign of Capricorn
and you said never in your 25 years of work have you seen such negative signs.
Now I know for the next year or so this is how the situation is and that I
must not allow myself to fall prey to depression or hopelessness and that as I
die to what is now a new fresh life will arise and this gives me hope. Please
accept my gratitude for the time you took to guide me through these times
ahead. Sincerely, Victoria 1/8/49
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Dear Dr. Turi!!!!
YOU ARE INCREDIBLE AMAZING, MAN!!! - Hidden Dragon's Tail in Virgo -- That
means I could become fanatical about my health. When I was a kid, I'd
sometimes brush my teeth for more than half-an-hour. My friends thought I was
CRAZY. If I had ONE pimple on my face, I'd put rubbing alcohol all over my
WHOLE face. The other kids would ask, "Where is that horrible smell coming
from?" I can also be SUPER CRITICAL. I can have a very harsh tongue. I've got
to learn to relax a little. I sent my VERY Cancer friend some e-mail from your
Power of the Dragon book about people with a Pisces Dragon Head / Virgo Tail,
which is what he has. Dr. Turi -- you don't know this guy personally, but
what's in your book is SO ACCURATE it's scary. You say a Pisces Dragon's
Head's color is AQUA -- His ENTIRE web site is AQUA, full of images of clean,
clear, deep aqua water. You say they go DEEP into their imagination -- His web
site is named "IMAGINARIA."
http://members.brandx.net/free/websites/imaginaria/ Please Dr. Louis, if check
out this web site, it's unbelievable how accurate you are. You say they are
tremendous artists. He is so talented artistically, but he's afraid he's NOT.
He has NO formal training. He taught himself. His natural talent is
TREMENDOUS. He read what you wrote, and was AMAZED. I think he felt overjoyed,
too, because he's very intuitive and mystical. He probably thinks your message
is coming straight from the Universe to him. Love You, Man,
Joe the Scorpio
==========================
Dear Dr. Turi,
Just a brief comment on your remarks concerning my 'chart' (28 July 47) during
Sightings, last evening. First of all, you sparked something when you
mentioned 'killed by enemies' in the past...I do not like anything close (or
restrictive) around my throat or neck...my face or mouth in water (while
swimming) produces panic...the fear of not being able to breath.
(hanging/drowning) But, the real reason for my comments today have to do with
your site comments about the tail and head of the Dragon. Several years ago, I
moved to a small place in the country. And, for a lack of a better way of
putting it, I am a hermit (by choice). A dear friend of mine - who studies
astrology- has been saying for several years...'leave the house, get out, etc
etc etc" I 'brushed off' these comment - didn't act on them. Just the same as
I ignored her remarks that this place (Greensboro, GA) is almost THE worst
place in the world for me to live....of course, she suggested Tokyo. WHAT?
Easy to ignore the suggestion to move a few thousand miles and into a
different culture. (Smile) Today, I took a moment to visit your web site and,
in turn read the comments about 'the Dragon'. The words absolutely jumped off
the page.... words to the effect...leave home, get out. Self imposed isolation
are not working for me. DUH! The proverbial light came on over my head. I have
been 'bargaining' with the Universe....yeah, I'll use my psychic skills/gift
(whatever word....)so long as I don't have to leave home. Suddenly, so many
things fell into place...that is, if I were punished/murdered previously for
such activity - of course, I'm not going to be all that willing to do it THIS
time. Caught on the wheel. My thought process to moving too fast to put into
words...it is enough to say, thank you, for your insights. And, while I have
heard it before....I ignored it. (I don't have to tell you the results of that
choice....) When I read your remarks...listened to the archive of the
show....it was a moment of realization. WOW! THANK YOU. In the weeks to come -
I want to arrange for the taped reading. Again, thank you.
Gracen
=======================
Dr. Turi
jef...@pete-stapleton-is-a-kook.hugh-jeffcoat-is-a-psychotic-fag.org says...
>
>
>
Sure...
Subject: Re: 1999 StarGuide-Moon Power
Thanks Dr. Turi for the update, since I still haven't purchased my copies of
the 1999 Starguide. I'm such a silly girl sometimes. How was your trip? Didn't
you go to Hawaii or Mexico or some foreign place to work some? You are so
right about the police being in danger these days. In San Antonio, Tues. Oct.
12, 1999 Well, just south of SA, TX in the next county down from me, three (3)
police officers were gunned down in cold blood who went to answer a 911 call
at a home where earlier in the day they had arrested a husband for battering
his wife. Officers had taken her to a battered women's shelter and him to
jail. Of course the judge let him bond-out and get a court date to appear
later to answer for his charges. He went home, called police saying there was
an emergency...they arrived, got out of their separate cars and he gunned them
down from the bushes nearby with high powered rifles. Then he apparently
killed h himself. One of those officers I knew because he had worked on a
Intoxication Manslaughter (DWI) case of mine (as a victim advocate for MADD).
That case was still pending, awaiting trial, so I don't know how his death
will affect the work like that that he left behind. All the men had wives and
children at their homes. It was most sad and tragic. I remember that the
Dragon's Tail is in Aquarius now and each time I hear shocking and surprising
news and the fantastic weather events of the last yr., I think of that energy
and how it surely manifests in our physical world. Love and Light to you Dr.
Turi...Diane of Light, your student of
Divine Astrology and recent graduate.
======================
Thank you for sending your link to me! Awesome page dude!! And your forecast
for this week was "right on" we have a nuclear power plant up here, called El
Diablo--it was the leading story on Coast to Coast last night (the Art Bell
show, before he retired) It didn't exactly explode, but due to a power
failure, it went into shutdown and leaked steam into the air. And yes, it was
nasty steam! That plant is about an hour from me. ------El Diablo, means
devil--and its built in Devil's Canyon, on an earthquake fault. How stupid is
that?!!!
You're the best
////
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Hello; several months ago I heard you on a radio program and you talked about
an astrology chart you do for a hundred dollars. I am interested in finding
out more about this. Could you send or e-mail me some information on this. I
really enjoyed the program. Thank you,
Sandra//
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Hi Dr. Turi;
I plan to obtain your services for a past-life reading...I feel haunted with
such an overwhelming desire to find my soul mate. Is this in the stars for me,
to find my one love that I feel is out there looking for me too. I feel the
need to know and understand this...the powerful feelings I have for the one
whom I believe is my other half. I do realize that you charge a fee for your
readings, and you can send me an invoice for the above question... My family
and friends are awestruck over your remarkable gift as we listen to you
regularly on Sightings with Jeff. Anxiously, I await your response.
Respectfully yours, J/////
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Dr Turi, I've received your "Power of The Dragon" book and I've read it. It is
the best book ever published about the North Node and South Node. Thank you
for your info on Star Guide 2000. I believe your predictions are accurate. If
you publish some more new books in the future, please let me know. Sincerely,
Hai
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As a client I think he is fantastic. He is even better than Nostradamus. I
would like to call him NOSTRATURI!
Shurlie M/////.
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Subject: thank you Dr. Turi
Dear Dr Turi; D////er of S…. here...have used your Moon Book in past when
consulting couples to be married, your work is inspired and simply
"excellent". I do not recall sending $ with my request for current book, yet
no bill was enclosed, so please i will "snail mail " you a check; accept the
$15, for the distributor wholesale price of Moon Power and S/H... Also i will
send an additional $ 23.75 for Power of Dragon (1) and Moon Power Starguide
(1) PLUS $20 to encourage you to send autographed copy direct to us when "THE
POWER WITHIN" is released We believe in you and will be proud to display your
works and prepare to place a larger order in the near future. Sincerely, Rev
D/////urer
======================
Hello Dr Turi; I heard you're on the Jeff Rense show and would like to get a
reading for my wife and myself. If you could do the reading for us please let
me know. I left a message on your phone today, the name being /// and the
number 7/////5, in case you'd prefer to answer by e-mail instead of a return
call. Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you. ///
========================
Thanks Dr. Turi you are the greatest. Learning to do astrology the way you do
it has made such a difference in my life. I use it all day long every day. My
birthday is ///, I have the stars to teach astrology and that is what I want
to do, I do it all day long for everyone around me I can't help myself, I see
it in the news, the weather, everything everywhere, my cats and dogs, it's
wonderful. It is nice to know who you are dealing with, where is Nept? What
will you lie about. Where is Pl. what part of your life do you rearrange all
of the time. Where is Jupt. What do you want to learn and teach, where will
you expand and be lucky. I have Jept in the 1st house I want to teach. It is
all so wonderful. One of these days I am going to call Jeff Rense when you are
on the air and ask some general questions, so people can see how powerfull it
is. Wind, heat and fires for the next two years. With the DT in Sag. and Pl.
in Sag the list is long for what this will bring. Thank you so much Dr. Turi.
Barbara
========================
Hi Dr. Turi;
I just wanted to take a moment and thank you for your excellent work in the
Portland Astropsychology class. What memories you gave me! I will be smiling
for many years to come. I have been working on the "teaching aid" in my mind
and I'm about to draw it in the plane of physical reality. I am very excited.
John
======================
Hello Dr. Turi; I have just returned from the July Astropsychology class.
What a unique and enlightening experience! Besides the valuable knowledge
given, Dr. Turi himself makes the class challenging and entertaining. By the
end of the week, I could see the reflex action of intuition beginning to form
in everyone who was there. I did not think such a thing could be possible. It
is a life changing experience, and one can never view the world in quite the
same way. When Dr. Turi says, "you will be given the keys to the Universal
Mind", he really means it! I encourage anyone who is thinking of attending,
to go, as I guarantee they will be raised in spirit. My blessings to all who
attend this course in the future.
Madeline
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Dear Dr.Turi; We are thankful for the profound blessing of enlightenment
shared with our July Astropsychology class. With your guidance, we - reunited
old souls in the Arizona desert - rededicated ourselves to the vision of
sharing Astropsychology with the children of the world, who will carry it
forward as the only practical spiritual philosophy of the emerging Aquarian
cycle. The highest of spiritual world is now in our hands. Together we are
changing the human world into a world of light and awareness. With much love
Chief Sonne and Claudine
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Dear Dr. Turi; Definitely Divine Astrology for me, I have never been exposed
to any Astrology before hearing Dr. Turi on Jeff Rense's national program, but
if modern Astrology is littered with mathematical jargon then it is more of a
hand down Win for Divine Astrology. The favorite part for me was Dr. Turi’s
great humor through out the tapes, I of course need to practice the reflex and
know it will get more interesting when I receive my computer program and plug
in people I know birth dates to practice with the housing system.
Thank you, Joyce
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To Dr. Turi; I have just return from the July Astropsychology class, and it
was the greatest class I ever attended. Dr. Turi is the one of the best
teacher I have ever known. I have learnt so much from this man. This class is
a must for every one. If you want to soar with the eagles and be number one in
your field as an astrologer and to help every one that will be in your life
take the class. For it is truly enlightenment. Thank you once again Dr. Turi
for all that you have taught me.
Love&light
Alice Brooks
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To all prospective Astropsychology students; it has now been one week since I
have completed Dr. Turi's advanced astrology course in Phoenix AZ. It has been
about five months since I passed his basic astrology class by mail. I am here
to state that I absorbed so much more information and reflex in five days of
hands on schooling, than I could ever imagine getting in months of home study.
Don't get me wrong, the home course I hold very dearly, and It was an
excellent prerequisite, and I highly recommend it, but it only put me on the
runway, where as traveling to AZ. to get hands on schooling, placed me in the
air. I guess it depends on what you want to do with the knowledge, and how
fast you want to do it. Myself I planned to make a career out of it, and I
knew that the home course would eventually produce those results. Now having
completed the advanced course, I now face that reality. My new career has now
sprouted, and I owe it all to one incredible man, Dr. Louis Turi. There are
not enough kind words to describe this incredibly gifted, spiritual pioneer.
To be taught by him is a great honor, and pure enlightenment. There is no
doubt that you will notice that he has a little something different to offer,
something you won't find anywhere else. With that I leave it up to you, the
prospective student to find that answer. Thank You,
Charles
===========
Hi Dr. Turi; There is a driving force of energy that moves and propels us in
our quest for the truth, and the truth does not lie in any one area. This
truth that the seeker seeks, lays scattered through out our planet. So we as
we seek must be patient and discerning when we come across the path of others
speaking the truth. And from my discernment and the trust of my heart, I feel
very fortunate and blessed to have crossed paths with Dr. Turi in this time of
life. Dr. Turi’s wisdom and understanding is a vast as the stars he speaks of.
I am thankful that we taped the seminar! Thank You again for sharing your
wisdom of the stars!
Many Blessings,
James
==========
Thanks Dr. Turi you are the greatest. Learning to do astrology the way you do
it has made such a difference in my life. I use it all day long every day. My
birthday is ///, I have the stars to teach astrology and that is what I want
to do, I do it all day long for everyone around me I can't help myself, I see
it in the news, the weather, everything everywhere, my cats and dogs, it's
wonderful. It is nice to know who you are dealing with, where is Nept? What
will you lie about. Where is Pl. what part of your life do you rearrange all
of the time. Where is Jupt. What do you want to learn and teach, where will
you expand and be lucky. I have Jupt in the 1st house I want to teach. It is
all so wonderful. One of these days I am going to call Jeff Rense when you are
on the air and ask some general questions, so people can see how powerful it
is. Wind heat and fires for the next two years. With the DT in Sag. and Pl. in
Sag the list is long for what this will bring. Thank you so much Dr. Turi.
Barbara
========================
I am interested in a prediction heard over national radio that a large event
would take place in So Cal tomorrow morning - What's Up? >Well, they did set
off a box of firecrackers in NYC for the Chinese New Year, but no volcano
erupted in Central Park. How about out there in California? Any new volcanoes?
Dr.Turi says- on the 28th of this month expect a SURPRISING EXPLOSION that
will make the new on national radio and TV! This window will produce a
startling release of energy. Volcanoes ------ no to Mention man made of sudden
release of energy!!! Wait and see \
Result: 1)-- January 28th, 1998 --Clinic explosion kills 1; police search for
2nd bomb
NOTE, THIS TYPE OF EXPLOSION DO NOT HAPPEN EVERYDAY!!!
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Result:2) --Don't know if it relates, but we've got an undersea volcano going
off at the moment near the Oregon/Washington border. This morning's report is
that they're back up to 50 quakes an hour. This activity started around the
25th and we've had one high 4 quake a couple of days ago, relating to the
volcanic activity. You can check out the volcano sites for the information,
graphs, etc.
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>Dr.Turi says- On the 28th of this month expect a SURPRISING EXPLOSION that
will make the new on national radio and TV! This window will produce a
startling >release of energy. ------ No to mention man made of sudden release
of energy!!! Well, it is a day late, but an explosion at a Woman's Health
Clinic in Birmingham, Alabama this morning certainly is making national news,
and probably world-wide. One Police Officer was killed. The explosion was not
what most would call large, but the effects definitely are.
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GREETINGS BELOVED MASTER ~ Thought you might be interested in this. I AM
enjoying the grand adventure, thanks to your useful information within Moon
Power Guide.... Love and Light, T///rs, Fountain Hills, Arizona.
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Hi Dr. Turi,
I am the /// that you did the reading for on Mr. Rense's "Sightings on the
Radio" show on December 18th (the first email reading - from Australia). Since
you were 100% accurate about my life so far and you said I'd be a good
candidate for your course (I don't know what you teach). I'd appreciate it, if
you could give me some details on the course and if it's a course I can take
either via correspondence or via the web. Could you also please tell me how
much it costs? Thanking you in advance for all your time and trouble and for
the EXCELLENT READING! - Due to the accuracy in your reading on my life so
far, I figure that I should follow your advice for the future, if I am to
excel and be happy. Thanks again for the excellent reading. .Frances----Dear
Frances- thank you for your support- yes I have a Divine Astrology course
available by mail(16 90mn tapes, video/book/exams etc)- there is special price
going on now //// > www.timelink.net/drturi. - Thanks again - Dr. Turi
=====================
DrPostman
The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
with:
>Testimonials
>
>VERY SMALL SAMPLE OF FEEDBACK
>FROM THE WORLD ABOUT MY WORK …
Yet only a couple of people post praise to your web board and NO
ONE supports you on Usenet, ever.
You really suck at this Turdi.
DrPostman
The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
with:
>In article <h7n32v4t6dujpkcf3...@4ax.com>, Loo...@mysig.formail
>says...
>>
>>Dear Dr. Turi,
>
>Although you most probably did not construct my reading,
Got that right sparky, Turi simply pulls everything out of his ass.
DrPostman
The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
with:
>In article <ln842vg99l405ejen...@4ax.com>,
>jef...@pete-stapleton-is-a-kook.hugh-jeffcoat-is-a-psychotic-fag.org says...
>>
>>
>>
>>You deserve to be locked up and deported, Turdi.
>
>Sure...
If you agree then why are you still in the U.S. ripping people off?
DrPostman
The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
with:
>In article <ln842vg99l405ejen...@4ax.com>,
>jef...@pete-stapleton-is-a-kook.hugh-jeffcoat-is-a-psychotic-fag.org says...
>
>>"Janet" is one of your illiterate and weak-minded sock puppets.
>>
>>You deserve to be locked up and deported, Turdi.
>
>sure...
>
>To: drturi
>
>Subject: Your news group reply to me.
>
>Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:03:50 -0400
>
>
>Hi Dr. Turi,
>
>I certainly appreciate the reply you made to me on the news group.
More obvious fakes.
You really suck hard at this Turdi.
Peter Lemesurier
wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>Man DT is right on the money with the supernova window and mars. Planes
>are going down all over and oil prices are going up. Check the USAtoday
>front page on the www. Visit his site www.drturi.com and see it for
>yourself!I got the Moon Power 2003 book it was all printed last year. AMAZING
>guy!
Nostradamus? Yes, certainly.
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier
wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
> Very interesting, quite accurate and certainly fascinating!
... and totally irrelevant in this newsgroup. Try an astrology one?
You do realise that Nostradamus wasn't an astrologer, don't you?
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier
wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
>So... thank you Dr. Turi for being
>wonderful and right ON as usual!!!
Yes, but WHAT is he on?
--
Peter
Jeffrey Jupiter
>In article <ln842vg99l405ejen...@4ax.com>,
>jef...@pete-stapleton-is-a-kook.hugh-jeffcoat-is-a-psychotic-fag.org says...
>>
>>
>>
>>You deserve to be locked up and deported, Turdi.
>
>Sure...
>
>Subject: Re: 1999 StarGuide-Moon Power
>
>Thanks Dr. Turi for the update, since I still haven't purchased my copies of
>the 1999 Starguide. I'm such a silly girl sometimes.
You look even sillier since you wasted your money on Dr. Turd's
"toliet paper disguised as a book".
SpÅmster
"Dr. Turi" wrote:
> Testimonials
>
> VERY SMALL SAMPLE OF FEEDBACK
> FROM THE WORLD ABOUT MY WORK …
>
Flush!