Joe Madureira drew Fallen's picture origninally - One more time to make it clear
Brandon Hex
Fallen did upload an image to Bill Beckers sight.
However if he is trying to say he drew it himself and it is original, it
is in fact not his own pencil work but was originally drawn by Joe
Madureira from marvel comicbooks which he admits in a post previous to
posting it.
I own the comicbook he traced the image from and I can go and get it
scanned, if not find it online like he probably did. As Eraser already
said. Marvel.com must have it in their archives. I unlike Fallen do not
onw a scanner and was proud enough to display things I drew anywhere from
6 to 10 years ago and he still had to be nasty when he himself was only
tracing over images originaly drawn by Joe Madureira.
I do not want anybody to think that he drew that picture by himself. It
was in fact drawn by Joe Madureira and is from Age of Apocalypse comic
series by Marvel comicbooks.
The reason I am upset is because as a person who creates his own art work,
not matter the quality. I hate people who STEAL other people stuff and try
to pass it off as their own. After saying this 50 times already, Fallen is
still trying to say he drew that picture fresh and he is lying. Makes me
sick that he keeps doing it after it's clear he did not create it nor even
draw it. He says he cannot scan anything he drew himself while he can scan
something out of a comic book drawn by Joe Madureira .
Sorry, but he needs to be shot down and he is not taking it well and
neither am I.
Joe Madureira is the real artist name to the guy Fallen is trying to
steal the credit from. Tracing his art work does not make Fallen an
artist.
And this all started because I said comicbook artists kick ass.
Fallen wanted me to think he kicked ass so he said he was one. So I called
his bluff and I won the game. He ran without paying up and then kept
talking smack like he still has a card to play.
I also want to point out clearly that I know I am not a great comicbook
artist. I am fair to good. As far as alternate art, like the type Fallen
does where he lifts images and ideas and calls them his own, I also do
that in the form of photomanipulations. Still I cannot figure out which is
sadder, tracing over somebody elses comicbook work and thinking you
yourself are an artist or putting clothes on naked women. But I think I
still beat Fallen in the half assed art catagory as well as the original
work. His Black & White no offence while nice, cause it was traced, the
part that he may have done himself was the background and that simply did
not blend well with the 2 characters in the foreground nor was the image
big enough to have a reason to do the background, it was so small at the
top and sides it was pointless to make an alternate background. So the
whole work is traced otherwise. But still, it sucked. And this is the
first time I have actually said Fallen's artwork or whatever he calls
tracing, sucked. An inker and a color job really make a pencil work into a
great work and if you Fallen can mess up a master like Joe Madureira's
art, then you must really, really suck.
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Fallen
Brandon Hex wrote:
> In case it is not quite clear.
You mean after I pointed out who originally drew it you're making 3 posts to
say it again? Oddly I would have thought it was clear before but each to his
own I guess.
> Fallen did upload an image to Bill Beckers sight.
Well I suppose he was looking at it.
> However if he is trying to say he drew it himself and it is original, it
> is in fact not his own pencil work but was originally drawn by Joe
> Madureira from marvel comicbooks which he admits in a post previous to
> posting it.
Uhm?
> I do not want anybody to think that he drew that picture by himself. It
> was in fact drawn by Joe Madureira and is from Age of Apocalypse comic
> series by Marvel comicbooks.
So is it in fact from X Men Alpha then? You know I was going to guess that's
where it was from. My first clue was before I put the drawing up I think I
read some guy called Fallen saying that's where it was from. can't be sure
though.
> The reason I am upset is because as a person who creates his own art work,
> not matter the quality. I hate people who STEAL other people stuff and try
> to pass it off as their own. After saying this 50 times already, Fallen is
> still trying to say he drew that picture fresh and he is lying. Makes me
> sick that he keeps doing it after it's clear he did not create it nor even
> draw it. He says he cannot scan anything he drew himself while he can scan
> something out of a comic book drawn by Joe Madureira .
One day, that 'say something long enough and it becomes true' theory will pan
out for you. I think you're on to a winner personally.
> Sorry, but he needs to be shot down and he is not taking it well and
> neither am I.
I'm not? Oh. Well that sucks :(
> Joe Madureira is the real artist name to the guy Fallen is trying to
> steal the credit from. Tracing his art work does not make Fallen an
> artist.
It's lucky Joe Madureira isn't British or I could have been him.
> And this all started because I said comicbook artists kick ass.
>
> Fallen wanted me to think he kicked ass so he said he was one. So I called
> his bluff and I won the game. He ran without paying up and then kept
> talking smack like he still has a card to play.
Have you been watching Maverick again you little tyke?
> His Black & White no offence while nice, cause it was traced, the
> part that he may have done himself was the background and that simply did
> not blend well with the 2 characters in the foreground nor was the image
> big enough to have a reason to do the background, it was so small at the
> top and sides it was pointless to make an alternate background.
I'm guessing the whole 'It's an A4 scan from the middle of an A3 poster'
conversation passed you by then? You can look at the whole thing to your
hearts content once it's up.
> So the whole work is traced otherwise. But still, it sucked. And this is the
>
> first time I have actually said Fallen's artwork or whatever he calls
> tracing, sucked. An inker and a color job really make a pencil work into a
> great work and if you Fallen can mess up a master like Joe Madureira's
> art, then you must really, really suck.
>
Uhm Madureiras cover is already inked and coloured, and even metallicised.
There is no pencil work. If indeed as you say there is a black and white
version of the cover out there somewhere then I'll take a wild shot in the
dark at it being a black and white exact copy of the coloured one.
Fallen.
Jonathan Sizemore
"Brandon Hex" <blo...@home.com> wrote in message
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Good post Brandon. It's obvious that Fallen is committing some sort of
fraud by trying to pass of this work as his own. I think the original
artist should be notified.
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Fallen
Jonathan Sizemore wrote:
> Good post Brandon. It's obvious that Fallen is committing some sort of
> fraud by trying to pass of this work as his own. I think the original
> artist should be notified.
I agree! I think we should immediately order some kind of leaflet
campaign, maybe a t-shirt rally?
I also suggest that we start up an email petition to remove this
pernicious filth from the God given ground that is the internet
immediately!
Fallen.
Jonathan Sizemore
>campaign, maybe a t-shirt rally?
>
>I also suggest that we start up an email petition to remove this
>pernicious filth from the God given ground that is the internet
>immediately!
>
Fraud is fraud, Fallen. Making jokes about it doesn't diminish the gravity of
the offence.
Jonathan Sizemore
jonathan...@aol.com
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yours and mine, to share,
If you come back
We'll be here again"
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Fallen
Jonathan Sizemore wrote:
> >I agree! I think we should immediately order some kind of leaflet
> >campaign, maybe a t-shirt rally?
> >
> >I also suggest that we start up an email petition to remove this
> >pernicious filth from the God given ground that is the internet
> >immediately!
> >
>
> Fraud is fraud, Fallen. Making jokes about it doesn't diminish the gravity of
> the offence.
>
So you were thinking more along the lines of a sit-down protest?
Fallen.
The Manz
news:20020412120617...@mb-ch.aol.com...
> >I agree! I think we should immediately order some kind of leaflet
> >campaign, maybe a t-shirt rally?
> >
> >I also suggest that we start up an email petition to remove this
> >pernicious filth from the God given ground that is the internet
> >immediately!
> >
>
> Fraud is fraud, Fallen. Making jokes about it doesn't diminish the gravity
of
> the offence.
LOL, what's with the AOL account loser? Just when I thought I'd killfiled
your sorry ass you resurface like a big brown turd. Not to worry, I won't
bother killfiling you this time, watching you get your ass kicked in here is
just too much fun!
Bill Becker
Best regards,
Bill
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Jonathan Sizemore
"Bill Becker" <bb...@rmisp.com> wrote in message
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> What happened to your Yahoo account?
>
I still have it, why?
Brandon Hex
More like you finally admitting your nothing but a 2 bit hack.
You have no repsect from your peers in APWW other than SawDust and Bugpass.
Why would you stick around? because you love to be hated and you need them
more than they need you.
Oh it's true, it's damn true.
Just like how you had to trace somebody elses artwork to meet my challenge
and you still lost cause you got busted for cheating.
Typical of Fallen is you ask anybody who knows him.
Right.
Lets Ask Midnight Express about the stand up bloke called Fallen
The same stand up bloke who cause he so called friend to leave the NG he
made so good.
Nice guy that Fallen is.
>
> Fallen.
Brandon Hex
Again, this only makes you look bad in the long run in APWW.
Accept to Sawdust. Who you seem to be kewl with which means you plotting
to stab everybody in APWW in the back just like he does and you do
usually.
To all APWW who buy Fallen's crap.
When he gets you, do not expect Hex to help you against him since you did
not stand up to him now for my sakes.
Assholes
Brandon Hex
>
> Fallen.
Figures lazy Fallen comes up with the sit-down protest.
LOL
He cannot draw his own art and he cannot stand for a protest.
Brandon Hex
>
> > In case it is not quite clear.
>
> You mean after I pointed out who originally drew it you're making 3 posts to
> say it again? Oddly I would have thought it was clear before but each to his
> own I guess.
Oddly even after the three post and you hack image posted side by side the
original you still seem to think you created something good. And you did
not.
>
> > Fallen did upload an image to Bill Beckers sight.
>
> Well I suppose he was looking at it.
>
> > However if he is trying to say he drew it himself and it is original, it
> > is in fact not his own pencil work but was originally drawn by Joe
> > Madureira from marvel comicbooks which he admits in a post previous to
> > posting it.
>
> Uhm?
gotcha.
>
> > I do not want anybody to think that he drew that picture by himself. It
> > was in fact drawn by Joe Madureira and is from Age of Apocalypse comic
> > series by Marvel comicbooks.
>
> So is it in fact from X Men Alpha then? You know I was going to guess that's
> where it was from. My first clue was before I put the drawing up I think I
> read some guy called Fallen saying that's where it was from. can't be sure
> though.
Yes, you did admit when we started, you had no talent and needed to copy
an image from a professional. I do remember that. I also remember you
saying you created it and that is not creating, it's plagiarizing. That
was not the challenge, to see which of us could plagiarize the best. You
said nothing about that.
>
> > The reason I am upset is because as a person who creates his own art work,
> > not matter the quality. I hate people who STEAL other people stuff and try
> > to pass it off as their own. After saying this 50 times already, Fallen is
> > still trying to say he drew that picture fresh and he is lying. Makes me
> > sick that he keeps doing it after it's clear he did not create it nor even
> > draw it. He says he cannot scan anything he drew himself while he can scan
> > something out of a comic book drawn by Joe Madureira .
>
> One day, that 'say something long enough and it becomes true' theory will pan
> out for you. I think you're on to a winner personally.
Kinda like how you can say you created it and everybody can now see at
http://hex42.0catch.com/main.html
that you ripped it off and maybe in like 20 years after you keep saying
your created it, maybe then it will come true.
Just like your penis is not small. Maybe somebody that won't be true either.
NOT
>
> > Sorry, but he needs to be shot down and he is not taking it well and
> > neither am I.
>
> I'm not? Oh. Well that sucks :(
No, you take it like you do all your loses, poorly. Thus making me a
spoiled winner.
>
> > Joe Madureira is the real artist name to the guy Fallen is trying to
> > steal the credit from. Tracing his art work does not make Fallen an
> > artist.
>
> It's lucky Joe Madureira isn't British or I could have been him.
No, he has talent.
>
> > And this all started because I said comicbook artists kick ass.
> >
> > Fallen wanted me to think he kicked ass so he said he was one. So I called
> > his bluff and I won the game. He ran without paying up and then kept
> > talking smack like he still has a card to play.
>
> Have you been watching Maverick again you little tyke?
Little tyke? You're the guy who has to rip off other poeples work just to
so you can have half a talent.
Sides, isn't little tyke your GF's nickname for your little tyke?
>
> > His Black & White no offence while nice, cause it was traced, the
> > part that he may have done himself was the background and that simply did
> > not blend well with the 2 characters in the foreground nor was the image
> > big enough to have a reason to do the background, it was so small at the
> > top and sides it was pointless to make an alternate background.
>
> I'm guessing the whole 'It's an A4 scan from the middle of an A3 poster'
> conversation passed you by then? You can look at the whole thing to your
> hearts content once it's up.
Not at all, the whole "you created something original" is what passed by
me and about 600 other poeple.
>
> > So the whole work is traced otherwise. But still, it sucked. And this is the
> >
> > first time I have actually said Fallen's artwork or whatever he calls
> > tracing, sucked. An inker and a color job really make a pencil work into a
> > great work and if you Fallen can mess up a master like Joe Madureira's
> > art, then you must really, really suck.
> >
>
> Uhm Madureiras cover is already inked and coloured, and even metallicised.
> There is no pencil work. If indeed as you say there is a black and white
> version of the cover out there somewhere then I'll take a wild shot in the
> dark at it being a black and white exact copy of the coloured one.
So in other words, in case the original black & white pops up, you want to
try and already have your ass covered ?
>
> Fallen has no talent other than trolling and he sucks at that.
Brandon Hex
If we could get all that done, then getting Fallen executed for being a
joke to his family and country would be no problem.
Damn, only in a perfect world.
Brandon Hex
--
When I do finally go to hell, I am kicking Satan's ass and taking over.
Fallen has a talent for always having an excuse.
> You mean you? Hex? Mikey? Trolls or delusional liars one and all.
http://hex42.0catch.com/main.html
Enjoy
Brandon Hex
>
--
When I do finally go to hell, I am kicking Satan's ass and taking over.
Fallen has a talent for always having an excuse.