On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 18:42:33 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
> I have returned to usenet after suffering frustration with web-based
> forums. In principle, usenet is generally superior to web forums.
> But on the contrary, it has become a ghost town.
> I'm thinking one approach to promoting usenet is to reply to web-based
> posts, and reference a related thread in usenet.
> Other ideas?
That's a good start. Also we can advertise/promote the free text-group
services, like Eternal-September and Web gateways like Google Groups.
Or if someone on a message board thread talks about Usenet in terms of
downloading stuff off the binaries, mention the text groups, and how
discussion is no-holds-barred on Usenet, whether it be political or just
random open whining.
Recommend text-group-friendly clients, like 40tude Dialog and Xnews.
When they start asking about spam, don't bother explaining/recommending
scorefiles. If they enjoy the anarchy of Usenet, they won't care about spam
- everyone else is a lost cause.
"Usenet Is Alive!"
(We can use a marketing slogan like that, make Web buttons and the like. By
"Alive" we mean all the no-holds-barred activity, which will itself bring
more people in.)
-- Red Blade 7
President of alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, & talk.politics.misc
Fanfiction Committee Chairman of alt.tv.beavis-n-butthead
> On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 18:42:33 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> I have returned to usenet after suffering frustration with web-based
>> forums. In principle, usenet is generally superior to web forums.
>> But on the contrary, it has become a ghost town.
>> I'm thinking one approach to promoting usenet is to reply to web-based
>> posts, and reference a related thread in usenet.
>> Other ideas?
> That's a good start. Also we can advertise/promote the free text-group
> services, like Eternal-September and Web gateways like Google Groups.
> Or if someone on a message board thread talks about Usenet in terms of
> downloading stuff off the binaries, mention the text groups, and how
> discussion is no-holds-barred on Usenet, whether it be political or just
> random open whining.
> Recommend text-group-friendly clients, like 40tude Dialog and Xnews.
> When they start asking about spam, don't bother explaining/recommending
> scorefiles. If they enjoy the anarchy of Usenet, they won't care about > spam
> - everyone else is a lost cause.
> "Usenet Is Alive!"
> (We can use a marketing slogan like that, make Web buttons and the like. > By
> "Alive" we mean all the no-holds-barred activity, which will itself bring
> more people in.)
> -- > Red Blade 7
> President of alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, & talk.politics.misc
> Fanfiction Committee Chairman of alt.tv.beavis-n-butthead
Get across that usenet is the only forum that is truly
anonymous: you can post messages to usenet through remailers and
be certain you are anonymous; but if you post to a web-based forum
you have little or no anonymity.
For example, using a proxy with a web-based forum isn't so good because the operator of the proxy knows your IP, and while Tor goes through three 'nodes' and is semi-anonymous, there is no latency, so it is possible, if you have pissed off a TLA, that they can backtrack your post.
> Get across that usenet is the only forum that is truly
> anonymous: you can post messages to usenet through remailers and
> be certain you are anonymous; but if you post to a web-based forum
> you have little or no anonymity.
> For example, using a proxy with a web-based forum isn't so good
> because the operator of the proxy knows your IP, and while Tor
> goes through three 'nodes' and is semi-anonymous, there is no
> latency, so it is possible, if you have pissed off a TLA, that
> they can backtrack your post.
Great point anon, maybe you can advertize this to everyone on /b/.
Because Usenet makes forums like 4chan look like a concentration camp with dictators (mods).
Personally I love the availability its like the entire internet is here on Usenet while on forums you have what 5 max 30 people seeing your post? Here you only need to cross post to talk to everyone.
> Get across that usenet is the only forum that is truly
> anonymous: you can post messages to usenet through remailers and
> be certain you are anonymous; but if you post to a web-based forum
> you have little or no anonymity.
> For example, using a proxy with a web-based forum isn't so good > because the operator of the proxy knows your IP, and while Tor > goes through three 'nodes' and is semi-anonymous, there is no > latency, so it is possible, if you have pissed off a TLA, that > they can backtrack your post.
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:30:03 +0300, Oleksandr Gavenko wrote:
> On 2012-09-20, . wrote:
>> We need to advertize out side of usenet.
> If less people know about USENET we have less spam here and less dump users.
From my original message:
"When they start asking about spam, don't bother explaining/recommending
scorefiles. If they enjoy the anarchy of Usenet, they won't care about spam
- everyone else is a lost cause."
-- Red Blade
President of alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, & talk.politics.misc
Fanfiction Committee Chairman of alt.tv.beavis-n-butthead
>> If less people know about USENET we have less spam here and less dump users.
> From my original message:
> "When they start asking about spam, don't bother explaining/recommending
> scorefiles. If they enjoy the anarchy of Usenet, they won't care about spam
> - everyone else is a lost cause."
Currently technically you can't defend from spam with BotNets in 10k-100k
hosts.
Some groups still spamed by pr0n and trolls.
I use Gnus mail/NNTP client and it have scoring functionality.
