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Non scrivetemi

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:32:50 AM11/20/09
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http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/nsa-helped-windows-7-
development-035

The NSA has admitted in being involved in the development of Windows 7,
but I wouldn't be surprised that they were involved with in the
development of ALL Windows versions. Their job is to gather information
so it would seem obvious they helped Microsoft with building in
undetectable backdoors, which will only accept cettain command, for
example, on a TCP/IP port even if this port is blocked by the Firewall.
From the outside this port looks 'dead' or not connected to any server
software, but in reality a small part of code is listening for
encrypted commands.

Don't trust Microsoft software! Use Linux!!!

Anonymous

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:52:15 PM11/20/09
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Windows 7 is truly compromised. There would be no other reason for
the NSA to be in on the development except for the purpose of being
able
to easily spy on computer users. I upgraded to W7 recently and am
going ot try to setup Linux for all online uses.


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Anonymous

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:49:19 PM11/21/09
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> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:52:15 -0600, Anonymous wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Don't trust Microsoft software! Use Linux!!!
>>
>> I upgraded to W7 recently and am
>> going ot try to setup Linux for all online uses.
>
> From my other message:
>
> "The NSA has even gotten into the Linux kernel, as has Trusted Computing
> support, which Linus Torvalds and other non-FSF people support as a means
> of hardware DRM.
> With the FSF having sold out by removing anti-TCPA and anti-DRM provisions
> from the final GPLv3, it's only going to get worse, with the government
> having more important things to worry about than fixing niche problems (see
> also: Ron Paul, anti-arbitration bills)
>
> NSA SELinux seems to be accepted by the public because it's open-source,
> but so is the telephone industry. Remember that scandal and how both
> parties, including one supposedly against warrantless wiretapping, gave the
> industry immunity for their actions?"

BSD anyone?

http://www.freebsd.org/


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nemo_outis

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:33:58 PM11/22/09
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AzzMazta <pena...@yomomma.hot.invalid> wrote in
news:heckl2$cl3$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:49:19 -0600, Anonymous wrote:
>
>>
>> BSD anyone?
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/
>
> I've thought about BSD and if it wasn't for hardware support I'd
> probably learn//try it. I hate how the management of Linux, including
> its copyright policy, is linked to special interests due to corrupt
> organizations like the FSF. The BSD license is not "managed by" or
> "linked" to UC Berkeley anymore while the GPL is to the FSF.
>
> Question though, BSD has been around since the late 70s, and was under
> UC Berkeley control back then. I'd imagine that the DoD or some other
> spook group would have been involved with development at some point?
> I'd imagine that 3 decades of existence would beat 2 with 1 of proven
> NSA involvement. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>

You may wish to consider OpenBSD. It's based in Canada (to minimize
direct US influence) and is guided by pricipal designer/developer Theo de
Raadt, who, although a prickly, abrasive, and difficult (but very
skilled) person, is the epitome of someone who is not an NSA stooge.
OpenBSD is fanatical about security and stability, to the point where it
is thin on bells and whistles.


♥Ari♥

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:19:48 PM11/23/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:52:15 -0600, Anonymous wrote:

It's too fucking late now, Doofus, they have compromised your computer
case.

Everyone knows it's the pizza guy you have to look out for. Some of
those pepperoni are really devices that once swallowed, mutate part of
your intestinal tract into a sophisticated sonar array with Bluetooth
technology that can image anything within twenty feet of your anus.

duh
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nemo_outis

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:54:31 AM11/24/09
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AzzMazta <pena...@yomomma.hot.invalid> wrote in
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:33:58 GMT, nemo_outis wrote:
>
>>
>> You may wish to consider OpenBSD. It's based in Canada (to minimize
>> direct US influence) and is guided by pricipal designer/developer
>> Theo de Raadt, who, although a prickly, abrasive, and difficult (but
>> very
>

> I'm not familiar, but where do the BSDs' major components (the
> equivalent of GNU stuff on Linux) come from? I was always a Slackware
> person due to it being managed by one person and giving the user total
> control, but if OpenBSD is both open-source and subject to an
> individual or small organization, rather than shady
> industry-/government-funded nonprofits, I'd definitely want to look
> into it.
>

OpenBSD is indeed run by small group with one dominant developer (Theo).

As for "user software" there is a good selection available as "ports"
(but not as good as Linux - OpenBSD is primarily used for servers, not
workstations). A description of already ported applications and sources
and the process is available here:

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html

Regards,

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Anonymous

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:41:44 AM11/26/09
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I wonder if an offer of $1,000,000 from the NSA might influence his
judgement? After all, all the U.S. government has to and will do today
is simply create/print the money out of thin air.


Justin Thyme

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Nov 26, 2009, 10:19:16 PM11/26/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:33:58 GMT, "nemo_outis" <a...@xyz.com> wrote:

>You may wish to consider OpenBSD. It's based in Canada (to minimize
>direct US influence) and is guided by pricipal designer/developer Theo de
>Raadt, who, although a prickly, abrasive, and difficult (but very
>skilled) person, is the epitome of someone who is not an NSA stooge.

So Linus Torvalds is an NSA stooge?
Justine Thyme

"It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatever for supposing it true."
--Bertrand Russell

nemo_outis

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:27:02 PM11/26/09
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Justin Thyme <ab...@localhost.com> wrote in
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:33:58 GMT, "nemo_outis" <a...@xyz.com> wrote:
>
>>You may wish to consider OpenBSD. It's based in Canada (to minimize
>>direct US influence) and is guided by pricipal designer/developer Theo
>>de Raadt, who, although a prickly, abrasive, and difficult (but very
>>skilled) person, is the epitome of someone who is not an NSA stooge.
>
> So Linus Torvalds is an NSA stooge?
> Justine Thyme

One wonders what sort of mental defect causes you to draw such bizarre
inferences.

Regards,

Justin Thyme

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Nov 28, 2009, 11:02:06 AM11/28/09
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I'll take that as a "No."
You still haven't explained why BSD should be more free of NSA
influence than Linux.

nemo_outis

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Nov 28, 2009, 11:58:09 AM11/28/09
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Justin Thyme <ab...@localhost.com> wrote in
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> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:27:02 GMT, "nemo_outis" <a...@xyz.com> wrote:
>
>>Justin Thyme <ab...@localhost.com> wrote in
>>news:e8hug51hlquejuhmg...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:33:58 GMT, "nemo_outis" <a...@xyz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You may wish to consider OpenBSD. It's based in Canada (to minimize
>>>>direct US influence) and is guided by pricipal designer/developer
>>>>Theo de Raadt, who, although a prickly, abrasive, and difficult (but
>>>>very skilled) person, is the epitome of someone who is not an NSA
>>>>stooge.
>>>
>>> So Linus Torvalds is an NSA stooge?
>>> Justine Thyme
>>
>>One wonders what sort of mental defect causes you to draw such bizarre
>>inferences.
>>
>>Regards,
>
> I'll take that as a "No."
> You still haven't explained why BSD should be more free of NSA
> influence than Linux.
> Justine Thyme

I have not explained why BSD is more free of NSA influence than Linux,
because I didn't say it was!

I made NO comparisons but only suggested a particular OS for evaluation
by the OP. If I recommend cake that does not mean I detest pie.

I suggest you take a course in reading for comprehension. While you're
at it, sign up for one in elemmentary logic too.

Regards,

Non scrivetemi

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:40:59 PM11/28/09
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Justin Thyme wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:27:02 GMT, "nemo_outis" <a...@xyz.com> wrote:
>
> >Justin Thyme <ab...@localhost.com> wrote in
> >news:e8hug51hlquejuhmg...@4ax.com:
> >
> >> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:33:58 GMT, "nemo_outis" <a...@xyz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>You may wish to consider OpenBSD. It's based in Canada (to minimize
> >>>direct US influence) and is guided by pricipal designer/developer Theo
> >>>de Raadt, who, although a prickly, abrasive, and difficult (but very
> >>>skilled) person, is the epitome of someone who is not an NSA stooge.
> >>
> >> So Linus Torvalds is an NSA stooge?
> >> Justine Thyme
> >
> >One wonders what sort of mental defect causes you to draw such bizarre
> >inferences.
> >
> >Regards,
>
> I'll take that as a "No."
> You still haven't explained why BSD should be more free of NSA
> influence than Linux.

Expect some bizarre tirade that has absolutely no relationship to
a legitimate answer at all, heavily seasoned with self serving "I'm
more clever than anyone" brand security advice. It's Nimrod's firm
belief that if he merely THINKS something is better than a
comparable choice it magically becomes reality.

Of course the poor dumb cunt STILL doesn't know the difference
between whole disk and container/partition encryption... even after
the very people who created the software tools dummy consistently
mislabels have tried to explain it to the dullard themselves.

"They won't find my secret files. I'll just yell HEYLOOKOVERTHERE
real loud!"
-- nemo_outis

nemo_outis

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:46:14 PM11/28/09
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"Non scrivetemi" <nonscr...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in
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What's that whining sound? Oh, right - although it's pretty late in the
season for gnats. SWAT!

noauth

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Nov 28, 2009, 1:23:43 PM11/28/09
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nemo_outis wrote:


I suggest you grow some fucking balls and stand behind your own
blitherings for a change.

You *clearly* stated that NSA influence with respect to BSD is
minimized by... whatever foil beanie geographic barriers you seem
to be hallucinating about today, and your self delusions about
being some sort of "talent" when it comes to judging the character
of people you've only read some things about.

They're your blitherings partner, which means the onus is on you to
explain what it is about Canada that makes open source operating
systems grown there more resistant to infection, and produce your
ACME School of Psychology And Needlepoint degree to prop up your
piss poor judgment calls.

[This space reserved for typical Outhouse snip/screech/run routine]

Dave U. Random

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Nov 28, 2009, 2:06:35 PM11/28/09
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nemo_outis wrote:

As predicted...... snip... screech... run.

Talk about being owned.

*snicker*

nemo_outis

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Nov 28, 2009, 5:47:12 PM11/28/09
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nemo_outis

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♥Ari♥

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Dec 4, 2009, 11:09:10 AM12/4/09
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wow good comeback there nemo. lol
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