Deciding On A VPN
Nathan See
threads. When I asked those question regarding VPN I did not know
anything about the subject.
That forced me to research it myself. People can say service X is
better than service Y, but that's not good enough for me I wanted to
know why. So I researched everything on VPNs and VPN services I could
find and eventually found VPNServer. I began asking questions to the
operator, a lot of questions. And, after that, I just starting
talking to him about a lot of different, including to to improve his
service and things like that.
I've been trialing a few; namely Mullvad, Hide My Ass!, and
Overplay.net. There are things I liked about each of them, so I'm
going to need a little user input here. How are each of these in
terms of encryption? Mullvad uses OpenVPN using 2048-bit RSA and
128-bit Blowfish encryption. I cannot say much about the others.
Any opinions or thoughts on any of these services?
LunchBox
> Thanks to all who helped and a pshaw to those who tried to rape my
> threads. When I asked those question regarding VPN I did not know
> anything about the subject.
>
> That forced me to research it myself. People can say service X is
> better than service Y, but that's not good enough for me I wanted to
> know why. So I researched everything on VPNs and VPN services I could
> find and eventually found VPNServer. I began asking questions to the
> operator, a lot of questions. And, after that, I just starting
> talking to him about a lot of different, including to to improve his
> service and things like that.
In other words he no longer needs help with his original question.
Nate has gone from needing information on a VPN for his family on
Wednesday and by Sunday at 4:00 in the morning he's posting about his
"favorite" VPN service and says he is "working closely with the
owner."
I'm not saying you're not telling the truth Nate, but it stretches
credulity.
It makes me think of H.L. Mencken:
"It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know
that you would lie if you were in his place."
> I've been trialing a few; namely Mullvad, Hide My Ass!, and
> Overplay.net. There are things I liked about each of them, so I'm
> going to need a little user input here. How are each of these in
> terms of encryption? Mullvad uses OpenVPN using 2048-bit RSA and
> 128-bit Blowfish encryption. I cannot say much about the others.
>
> Any opinions or thoughts on any of these services?
What for?
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Nathan See
Thank you very much for your help here LunchBox. I wasn't aware that I
wasn't allowed to have a favorite VPN service, so thank you very much
for telling me. That is a load of my mind. I sure hope the police
don't come and arrest me for having this preferred service.
Seriously, where do you get off insulting my integrity that. That is
extremely rude and uncalled for. I don't care if the timing is
suspect for you, that is your perception and there's nothing I can do
about that. Did you bother to ask me why this was my favorite service
before attacking my integrity? No, you did not. If you had I would
have told you that I prefer it because:
* It offer servers in many countries
* I can still enjoy Hulu,
Pandora, and Netflix using their proxies (a feature not included with
many other providers I've looked at)
* Reasonable price
* Live support
* NO logging
* Dynamic IPs
No, LunchBox, that isn't a sales pitch I am in no way affiliated with
the VPNSecure. I thought you posted as LunchTurds on Usenet.
I know, I know, I said "working closely with the owner..." That's
true. It is possible that I just wanted to make the service better.
After all there's always room for improvement. I did research other
services to see what was feasible to implement here that could
improve the service. Perhaps you perceive that as a mistake, I do
not. I have worked with developers on many different projects in the
past, and I will do so in the future, simply because I like doing it.
LunchTurds, do not call my integrity into question again, especially
not over something as insignificant as this. And if you are
uncomfortable with me having favorites please do not read my
signature.
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DasFox
> LunchTurds, do not call my integrity into question again, especially
> not over something as insignificant as this. And if you are
> uncomfortable with me having favorites please do not read my
> signature.
> --
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NICE work, LUNCHTURDS...attacking a RETARD...
MOM must be so proud...
THANKS
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katio
> Thank you very much for your help here LunchBox. I wasn't aware that I
> wasn't allowed to have a favorite VPN service, so thank you very much
> for telling me. That is a load of my mind. I sure hope the police
> don't come and arrest me for having this preferred service.
>
> Seriously, where do you get off insulting my integrity that. That is
> extremely rude and uncalled for. I don't care if the timing is
> suspect for you, that is your perception and there's nothing I can do
> about that. Did you bother to ask me why this was my favorite service
> before attacking my integrity? No, you did not. If you had I would
> have told you that I prefer it because:
>
> * It offer servers in many countries
> * I can still enjoy Hulu,
> Pandora, and Netflix using their proxies (a feature not included with
> many other providers I've looked at)
> * Reasonable price
> * Live support
> * NO logging
> * Dynamic IPs
>
> No, LunchBox, that isn't a sales pitch I am in no way affiliated with
> the VPNSecure. I thought you posted as LunchTurds on Usenet.
Based on these requirements a VPN only makes sense if your mother does
online banking over unsecured wifi or a network she doesn't own and
control (i.e. not her home network).
On a "secure" network (by that I mean one without local eavesdroppers)
there are three ways to "get hold of financial information" or
conduct identity theft. That would be client and server side
compromises and classical MITM and phishing attacks from outside the
LAN. A VPN solution doesn't solve a single one of these risks.
You should be looking at the security of the OS, browser
configuration, security software and educate the users about how a
basic TLS MITM can be detected.
Against server side compromises you can't do much other than using
different random and "strong" passwords and usernames and change them
whenever the next gawker or rootkit.com happens.
Steve Topletz, Wizard
Nate, be careful, Adem of Privacy.Li or his sock puppets "Rooster",
katio et al will be emailing you soon. It's what they do, lurk on
Usenet and market. ;)
If you are concerned about ID theft of financial info, a VPN does not
address that problem. Instead, have her go open a free account at Bank
of America. Then register her online with their MBNA online banking.
She can then login, generate balance-limited one-time-use virtual
credit cards for online purchases.
Problem solved, thread over, The Wizard has appeared ;)
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Nathan See <nath...@wildersecurity.com> wrote:
> See My Blog: http://n8chavez.com/
Non existent.
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LunchBox
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:11:57 -0500, Nathan See wrote:
>
>> LunchTurds, do not call my integrity into question again, especially
>> not over something as insignificant as this. And if you are
>> uncomfortable with me having favorites please do not read my
>> signature.
>> --
>> See My Blog: http://n8chavez.com/
>
> NICE work, LUNCHTURDS...attacking a RETARD...
>
> MOM must be so proud...
>
> THANKS
DasFox, I wish you knew how to just let things go. It's no big deal,
just sit back and see how it goes, that's all. Move on -- life is too
short.
Why do I waste my time on alt.privacy, it's either the retards, the
'Fox or Adem and his Privacy.Li puppet show.
DasFox
> Nate, be careful, Adem of Privacy.Li or his sock puppets "Rooster",
> katio et al will be emailing you soon. It's what they do, lurk on
> Usenet and market. ;)
>
> If you are concerned about ID theft of financial info, a VPN does not
> address that problem. Instead, have her go open a free account at Bank
> of America. Then register her online with their MBNA online banking.
> She can then login, generate balance-limited one-time-use virtual
> credit cards for online purchases.
>
> Problem solved, thread over, The Wizard has appeared ;)
Whizzerd...BAD NERWS...GUESS who didn't make the CUT...
YOU...
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Nathan See
> In article <4d5afa2e$0$1073$afc3...@read01.usenet4all.se>,
> Nathan See <nath...@wildersecurity.com> wrote:
>
>> See My Blog: http://n8chavez.com/
>
> Non existent.
Sorry Prinzip had to take the link down due to severe spamming.
Steve Topletz, Wizard
Nate, send those IP addresses to me via a message. Bet I come up with
a few <cough> Privacy <cough> lies for you. Or should we save everyone
time and ask Prinzip the Ademite sock puppet ;)
Prinzip Gavrilo
"Steve Topletz, Wizard" <thew...@xerobank.com> wrote:
> Nate, send those IP addresses to me via a message. Bet I come up with
> a few <cough> Privacy <cough> lies for you. Or should we save everyone
> time and ask Prinzip the Ademite sock puppet ;)
Wow. Do you think that everyone who posts pseudo-anonymously (or even
realio-trulio-anonymously) is the same personne? I bet you think there's
a guy out there named Nomen Nescio who spends his whole life online,
just trying to get your goat.
Idiot. Who let you gang of fucking morons into apas anyway? I'm thinking
of resigning, and dammit, it's my turn to be Moderator in Chief in this
year of the Bunny.
Steve Topletz, Wizard
> In article <4d5a...@news.x-privat.org>,
> "Steve Topletz, Wizard" <thew...@xerobank.com> wrote:
>
>> Nate, send those IP addresses to me via a message. Bet I come up with
>> a few <cough> Privacy <cough> lies for you. Or should we save everyone
>> time and ask Prinzip the Ademite sock puppet ;)
>
> Wow. Do you think that everyone who posts pseudo-anonymously (or even
> realio-trulio-anonymously) is the same personne?
No Adem, just you. ;)
Prinzip Gavrilo
"Steve Topletz, Wizard" <thew...@xerobank.com> wrote:
> No Adem, just you. ;)
I think you're crazy.
Steve Topletz, Wizard
> In article <4d5b0136$1...@news.x-privat.org>,
> "Steve Topletz, Wizard" <thew...@xerobank.com> wrote:
>
>> No Adem, just you. ;)
>
> I think you're crazy.
No Adem, just you. ;)
Noone
> * NO logging
>
No logging equals no security. Assume that third parties have
compromised the servers and are recording everything you do without
the admin's knowledge. If you are comfortable knowing the very
people you want to hide from have probably compromised the service
and are logging everything you do, have at it.
Noone
> Wow. Do you think that everyone who posts pseudo-anonymously (or
> even realio-trulio-anonymously) is the same personne? I bet you
> think there's a guy out there named Nomen Nescio who spends his
> whole life online, just trying to get your goat.
>
That's not the real Steve Topletz, it's a troll that must have been
kicked off Wilders and is now trying to make the entire crew look
bad. His current goal appears to be to try to start up another
privacy.li flamefest in here by claiming everyone is Adem. Adem
isn't as smart as this troll claims and I don't think Topletz is as
stupid as this troll is making him out to sound.
Steve Topletz, Wizard
We offer more than just anonymous internet access, Adem. ;)
For example, the mail server(s) publicly exposed are not the actual
mail servers. The real location of our mail servers are hidden!
katio
> On 15 Feb 2011 23:00:16 GMT, Noone wrote:
>
>> Nathan See <nath...@wildersecurity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> * NO logging
>>>
>>
>> No logging equals no security. Assume that third parties have
>> compromised the servers and are recording everything you do without
>> the admin's knowledge. If you are comfortable knowing the very
>> people you want to hide from have probably compromised the service
>> and are logging everything you do, have at it.
>
> We offer more than just anonymous internet access, Adem. ;)
>
> For example, the mail server(s) publicly exposed are not the actual
> mail servers. The real location of our mail servers are hidden!
Hidden? Tophat, you have made the claim consistently they are in
Panama. Lie? If they aren't, then you lied about the inability of LEO
cracking Panamanian Law to get tot them.
Which lie is it?
Steve Topletz, Wizard
Excellent obfuscation, Adem ;) Now to your proof of this claim? ;)
Steve Topletz, Wizard
My lips are sealed. ;)
katio
> Prinzip Gavrilo <gavrilo...@ebrubrlegargle.rlg> wrote:
>
>> Wow. Do you think that everyone who posts pseudo-anonymously (or
>> even realio-trulio-anonymously) is the same personne? I bet you
>> think there's a guy out there named Nomen Nescio who spends his
>> whole life online, just trying to get your goat.
>>
>
> That's not the real Steve Topletz, it's a troll that must have been
> kicked off Wilders and is now trying to make the entire crew look
> bad.
So Prinzip and his butt-buddy Hito are complete morons. Works for me.
Noone
>> That's not the real Steve Topletz, it's a troll that must have
>> been kicked off Wilders and is now trying to make the entire
>> crew look bad. His current goal appears to be to try to start
>> up another privacy.li flamefest in here by claiming everyone is
>> Adem. Adem isn't as smart as this troll claims and I don't
>> think Topletz is as stupid as this troll is making him out to
>> sound.
>
> Excellent obfuscation, Adem ;) Now to your proof of this claim?
> ;)
>
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=281212&page=25
Steve Topletz, Wizard
Thanks for the advertisement, Adem. Sorry I can't return the favor. ;)
katio
It occurred to me that /you/ are the one who is constantly claiming
that Privacy.Liers are a) not you and b) not posting to Usenet.
If that's the case, then who the hell is this flamefest going to be
with and why are you sending out smoke signals with this post to your
sock puppets, Adem?
DasFox
I have used Tech to read archives...Adem and PRIVACY.LIE...
He was STUPiD then but this tops the CHARTS...
BUSTED...LOL...!!
Searching_____
> On 15 Feb 2011 23:00:16 GMT, Noone wrote:
>
>> Nathan See <nath...@wildersecurity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> * NO logging
>>>
>>
>> No logging equals no security. Assume that third parties have
>> compromised the servers and are recording everything you do without
>> the admin's knowledge. If you are comfortable knowing the very
>> people you want to hide from have probably compromised the service
>> and are logging everything you do, have at it.
>
> We offer more than just anonymous internet access, Adem. ;)
>
> For example, the mail server(s) publicly exposed are not the actual
> mail servers. The real location of our mail servers are hidden!
So Steve, Does Xerobank have any plans of setting up servers in
Antartica, N. Korea, Guam, or the Gulag Archpelegos? I believe they
would be good locations for exit Nodes.
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Steve Topletz, Wizard
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:44:47 -0500, Steve Topletz, Wizard wrote:
>
>> On 15 Feb 2011 23:00:16 GMT, Noone wrote:
>>
>>> Nathan See <nath...@wildersecurity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> * NO logging
>>>>
>>>
>>> No logging equals no security. Assume that third parties have
>>> compromised the servers and are recording everything you do without
>>> the admin's knowledge. If you are comfortable knowing the very
>>> people you want to hide from have probably compromised the service
>>> and are logging everything you do, have at it.
>>
>> We offer more than just anonymous internet access, Adem. ;)
>>
>> For example, the mail server(s) publicly exposed are not the actual
>> mail servers. The real location of our mail servers are hidden!
>
> So Steve, Does Xerobank have any plans of setting up servers in
> Antartica, N. Korea, Guam, or the Gulag Archpelegos? I believe they
> would be good locations for exit Nodes.
My lips are sealed. ;)
katio
No one cares, LunchTurds since you no longer post either to Usenet or
to Wilders. Chickenshit.
hierophant
> In article <4d5afa2e$0$1073$afc3...@read01.usenet4all.se>
> Nathan See <nath...@wildersecurity.com> wrote:
>>
>
>> Thank you very much for your help here LunchBox. I wasn't aware that I
>> wasn't allowed to have a favorite VPN service, so thank you very much
>> for telling me. That is a load of my mind. I sure hope the police
>> don't come and arrest me for having this preferred service.
>>
>> Seriously, where do you get off insulting my integrity that. That is
>> extremely rude and uncalled for. I don't care if the timing is
>> suspect for you, that is your perception and there's nothing I can do
>> about that. Did you bother to ask me why this was my favorite service
>> before attacking my integrity? No, you did not. If you had I would
>> have told you that I prefer it because:
>>
>> * It offer servers in many countries
>> * I can still enjoy Hulu,
>> Pandora, and Netflix using their proxies (a feature not included with
>> many other providers I've looked at)
>> * Reasonable price
>> * Live support
>> * NO logging
>> * Dynamic IPs
>>
>> No, LunchBox, that isn't a sales pitch I am in no way affiliated with
>> the VPNSecure. I thought you posted as LunchTurds on Usenet.
>>
>> I know, I know, I said "working closely with the owner..." That's
>> true. It is possible that I just wanted to make the service better.
>> After all there's always room for improvement. I did research other
>> services to see what was feasible to implement here that could
>> improve the service. Perhaps you perceive that as a mistake, I do
>> not. I have worked with developers on many different projects in the
>> past, and I will do so in the future, simply because I like doing it.
>>
>> LunchTurds, do not call my integrity into question again, especially
>> not over something as insignificant as this. And if you are
>> uncomfortable with me having favorites please do not read my
>> signature.
>
> Sounds like you told him well how you feel, and justifiably so, I
> might add. I feel your pain.
>
> I have a Dutch uncle (slash) mentor who posts here too.
What's his handle? Nomen? Anne? Kulin Sr.? ;)
> He gave me some advice once when I was plenty pissed at someone here
> who wrote rudely in the same manner as LunchTurd did to you. I
> also had a habit of responding as you did. I try to keep in mind
> his admonishment, and I have found it helps, most of the time (hey,
> I am not perfect). He told me that usenet was not a good place to
> carry your feelings on your sleeve.
Noone? Dave U. Ransom? Am I getting close? ;)
> It is full of rude, mousey types, who love to prod and fuck with
> others for kicks and out of ignorance too. When you show your self
> in that way, you can expect they will come at you. I have found it
> easier to ignore them and just blend in anonymously.
Seeker? Hito Shirezu? C'mon, A hint?
> Incidentally, LunchTurd was a good name for that twit, I have to
> say. :)
I miss lunchbox. But not as much as breakfast. ;0)
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The characters DasFox, chronomatic, heirophant, I no more, nix, caspsian, katio, etc. are caricatures of real individuals on Wilders Security.
This hoax is being perpetrated by one "entity" with an axe to grind. This entity uses these characters as straw men for purposes of amusement.
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