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Virus Guy
May 27, 2012, 11:07:51 PM5/27/12
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Revealed: Hundreds of words to avoid using online if you don't want the
government spying on you (and they include 'pork', 'cloud' and 'Mexico')
* Department of Homeland Security forced to release list following
freedom of information request
* Agency insists it only looks for evidence of genuine threats to the
U.S. and not for signs of general dissent
By Daniel Miller
PUBLISHED: 09:32 GMT, 26 May 2012 | UPDATED: 17:46 GMT, 26 May 2012
Revealing: A list of keywords used by government analysts to scour the
internet for evidence of threats to the U.S. has been released under the
Freedom of Information Act
Revealing: A list of keywords used by government analysts to scour the
internet for evidence of threats to the U.S. has been released under the
Freedom of Information Act
The Department of Homeland Security has been forced to release a list of
keywords and phrases it uses to monitor social networking sites and
online media for signs of terrorist or other threats against the U.S.
The intriguing the list includes obvious choices such as 'attack', 'Al
Qaeda', 'terrorism' and 'dirty bomb' alongside dozens of seemingly
innocent words like 'pork', 'cloud', 'team' and 'Mexico'.
Released under a freedom of information request, the information sheds
new light on how government analysts are instructed to patrol the
internet searching for domestic and external threats.
The words are included in the department's 2011 'Analyst's Desktop
Binder' used by workers at their National Operations Center which
instructs workers to identify 'media reports that reflect adversely on
DHS and response activities'.
Department chiefs were forced to release the manual following a House
hearing over documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act
lawsuit which revealed how analysts monitor social networks and media
organisations for comments that 'reflect adversely' on the government.
However they insisted the practice was aimed not at policing the
internet for disparaging remarks about the government and signs of
general dissent, but to provide awareness of any potential threats.
As well as terrorism, analysts are instructed to search for evidence of
unfolding natural disasters, public health threats and serious crimes
such as mall/school shootings, major drug busts, illegal immigrant
busts.
The list has been posted online by the Electronic Privacy Information
Center - a privacy watchdog group who filed a request under the Freedom
of Information Act before suing to obtain the release of the documents.
In a letter to the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on
Counter-terrorism and Intelligence, the centre described the choice of
words as 'broad, vague and ambiguous'.
They point out that it includes 'vast amounts of First Amendment
protected speech that is entirely unrelated to the Department of
Homeland Security mission to protect the public against terrorism and
disasters.'
A senior Homeland Security official told the Huffington Post that the
manual 'is a starting point, not the endgame' in maintaining situational
awareness of natural and man-made threats and denied that the government
was monitoring signs of dissent.
However the agency admitted that the language used was vague and in need
of updating.
Spokesman Matthew Chandler told website: 'To ensure clarity, as part of
... routine compliance review, DHS will review the language contained in
all materials to clearly and accurately convey the parameters and
intention of the program.'
They point out that it includes 'vast amounts of First Amendment
protected speech that is entirely unrelated to the Department of
Homeland Security mission to protect the public against terrorism and
disasters.'
A senior Homeland Security official told the Huffington Post that the
manual 'is a starting point, not the endgame' in maintaining situational
awareness of natural and man-made threats and denied that the government
was monitoring signs of dissent.
However the agency admitted that the language used was vague and in need
of updating.
Spokesman Matthew Chandler told website: 'To ensure clarity, as part of
... routine compliance review, DHS will review the language contained in
all materials to clearly and accurately convey the parameters and
intention of the program.'
-----------------
Here's the list.
Let's see if any black helicopters start circling my house...
------------------
Catagory: Domestic Security
Assassination Attack Domestic security
Drill Exercise Cops
Law enforcement Authorities Disaster assistance
Disaster management DNDO (Domestic Nuclear Detection Office)
National preparedness Mitigation Prevention
Response Recovery Dirty bomb
Domestic nuclear detection Emergency management
Emergency response First responder Homeland security
Maritime domain awareness (MDA) National preparedness
initiative Militia Shooting
Shots fired Evacuation Deaths
Hostage Explosion (explosive) Police
Disaster medical assistance team (DMAT) Organized crime Gangs
National security State of emergency Security
Breach Threat Standoff
SWAT Screening Lockdown
Bomb (squad or threat) Crash Looting
Riot Emergency Landing Pipe bomb
Incident Facility HAZMAT & Nuclear
Hazmat Nuclear Chemical spill
Suspicious package/device Toxic National laboratory
Nuclear facility Nuclear threat Cloud
Plume Radiation Radioactive Leak
Biological infection (or event) Chemical
Chemical burn Biological Epidemic
Hazardous Hazardous material incident
Industrial spill Infection Powder (white) Gas
Spillover Anthrax Blister agent
Chemical agent Exposure Burn
Nerve agent Ricin Sarin
North Korea Health Concern + H1N1 Outbreak
Contamination Exposure Virus
Evacuation Bacteria Recall
Ebola Food Poisoning Foot and Mouth (FMD)
H5N1 Avian Flu
Strain Quarantine H1N1
Vaccine Salmonella Small Pox Plague
Human to human Human to Animal Influenza
Center for Disease Control CDC
Federal Drug Administration FDA
Public Health Toxic Agro Terror
Tuberculosis (TB) Tamiflu Norvo Virus
Epidemic Agriculture Listeria Symptoms
Mutation Resistant Antiviral
Wave Pandemic Infection
Water/air borne Sick Swine
Pork World Health Organization
Viral Hemorrhagic Fever E. Coli Anthrax
Tom Daschle Patrick Leahy Patriot Act
Portable Coffins Marshal Law Jesse Ventura
FEMA Police State Internment Camps
Fusion Centers Insurrection Quarantine
Outbreak Pandemic Detention Centers
Kent State G20 Conscription
Civil Rights Suspension Constitution
Consitutional Rights Toilet
Catagory: Infrastructure security
Airport CIKR (Critical Infrastructure& Key
Resources)
AMTRAK Collapse Computer infrastructure
Communications infrastructure Telecommunications
Critical infrastructure National infrastructure
Metro WMATA Airplane (and derivatives)
Chemical fire Subway BART
MARTA Port Authority
NBIC (National Biosurveillance Integration Center)
Transportation security Grid Power
Smart Body scanner Electric Failure or outage
Black out Brown out Port
Dock Bridge Cancelled
Delays Service disruption Power lines
Southwest Border Violence Drug cartel Violence
Gang Drug Narcotics
Cocaine Marijuana Heroin
Border Mexico Cartel
Southwest Juarez Sinaloa
Tijuana Torreon Yuma
Tucson Decapitated U.S. Consulate
Consular El Paso Fort Hancock San Diego
Ciudad Juarez Nogales Sonora
Colombia Mara salvatrucha MS13 or MS-13
Drug war Mexican army Methamphetamine
Cartel de Golfo Gulf Cartel La Familia
Reynosa Nuevo Leon Narcos
Narco banners (Spanish equivalents) Los Zetas
Shootout Execution Gunfight Trafficking
Kidnap Calderon Reyosa
Bust Tamaulipas Meth Lab
Drug trade Illegal immigrants Smuggling (smugglers)
Matamoros Michoacana Guzman
Arellano-Felix Beltran-Leyva Barrio Azteca
Artistic Assassins Mexicles New Federation
Chimichangas Enchilada (red or green)
Tamales Guacamole Mezcal
Tequila Eric Holder ATF
Fast and Furious Oliver North Enron
Catagory: Terrorism
Al Qaeda (all spellings) Terror Attack
Iraq Afghanistan Iran
Pakistan Agro Environmental
terrorist
Eco terrorism Conventional weapon Target
Weapons grade Dirty bomb Enriched
Nuclear Chemical weapon Biological weapon
Ammonium nitrate Improvised explosive device IED
Abu Sayyaf Hamas FARC
Armed Revolutionary Forces Colombia IRA
Irish Republican Army ETA Euskadi ta Askatasuna
Basque Separatists Hezbollah Tamil Tigers
PLF Palestine Liberation Front
PLO Palestine Liberation Organization
Car bomb Jihad Koran
Qur'an Sharia Islam
Islamic Muhammad Shite
Shia Sunni Saudi
Saudi Arabia Lebanon Pakistan
Iran Iranian Taliban
Weapons cache Suicide bomber Suicide attack
Suspicious substance AQAP (AL Qaeda Arabian Peninsula)
AQIM (Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb) TTP
Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan Yemen Pirates
Extremism Somalia Nigeria
Radicals Al-Shabaab Home grown
Plot Nationalist Recruitment
Fundamentalism Islamist Goldman Sachs
Central Banks Bankers Gold
Federal Reserve IRS FBI
Internal Revenue Service CIA NSA
Budget Deficits National Debt War on Terror
Henry Kissinger George Bush Dick Cheney
Donald Rumsfeld War Criminals Neo Conservative
New American Century Saddam Hussein Chemical Weapons
Regime Change Known Unknowns Iraq
Weapons Of Mass Destruction WMD Invasion
Mission Accomplished
Catagory: Weather/Disaster/Emergency
Emergency Hurricane Tornado
Twister Tsunami Earthquake
Tremor Flood Storm
Crest Temblor Extreme weather
Forest fire Brush fire Ice Stranded/Stuck
Help Hail Wildfire
Tsunami Warning Center Magnitude Avalanche
Typhoon Shelter-in-place Disaster
Snow Blizzard Sleet
Mud slide or Mudslide Erosion Power outage
Brown out Warning Watch
Lightening Aid Relief
Closure Interstate Burst
Emergency Broadcast System Katrina New Orleans
Michael Brown FEMA Trailer
Mobile Home Body Bag
Catagory: Cyber Security
Botnet DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
Denial of service Malware Virus
Trojan Keylogger Cyber Command
2600 Spammer Phishing
Rootkit Phreaking Cain and abel (?)
Brute forcing Mysql injection Cyber attack
Cyber terror Hacker China Conficker
Worm Scammers Social media
Facebook Microsoft Windows NT
Windows XP Windows 2000 Windows Vista
Windows 7 Windows 8 Bill Gates
Steve Balmer Developers Developers
Developers Developers
government spying on you (and they include 'pork', 'cloud' and 'Mexico')
* Department of Homeland Security forced to release list following
freedom of information request
* Agency insists it only looks for evidence of genuine threats to the
U.S. and not for signs of general dissent
By Daniel Miller
PUBLISHED: 09:32 GMT, 26 May 2012 | UPDATED: 17:46 GMT, 26 May 2012
Revealing: A list of keywords used by government analysts to scour the
internet for evidence of threats to the U.S. has been released under the
Freedom of Information Act
Revealing: A list of keywords used by government analysts to scour the
internet for evidence of threats to the U.S. has been released under the
Freedom of Information Act
The Department of Homeland Security has been forced to release a list of
keywords and phrases it uses to monitor social networking sites and
online media for signs of terrorist or other threats against the U.S.
The intriguing the list includes obvious choices such as 'attack', 'Al
Qaeda', 'terrorism' and 'dirty bomb' alongside dozens of seemingly
innocent words like 'pork', 'cloud', 'team' and 'Mexico'.
Released under a freedom of information request, the information sheds
new light on how government analysts are instructed to patrol the
internet searching for domestic and external threats.
The words are included in the department's 2011 'Analyst's Desktop
Binder' used by workers at their National Operations Center which
instructs workers to identify 'media reports that reflect adversely on
DHS and response activities'.
Department chiefs were forced to release the manual following a House
hearing over documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act
lawsuit which revealed how analysts monitor social networks and media
organisations for comments that 'reflect adversely' on the government.
However they insisted the practice was aimed not at policing the
internet for disparaging remarks about the government and signs of
general dissent, but to provide awareness of any potential threats.
As well as terrorism, analysts are instructed to search for evidence of
unfolding natural disasters, public health threats and serious crimes
such as mall/school shootings, major drug busts, illegal immigrant
busts.
The list has been posted online by the Electronic Privacy Information
Center - a privacy watchdog group who filed a request under the Freedom
of Information Act before suing to obtain the release of the documents.
In a letter to the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on
Counter-terrorism and Intelligence, the centre described the choice of
words as 'broad, vague and ambiguous'.
They point out that it includes 'vast amounts of First Amendment
protected speech that is entirely unrelated to the Department of
Homeland Security mission to protect the public against terrorism and
disasters.'
A senior Homeland Security official told the Huffington Post that the
manual 'is a starting point, not the endgame' in maintaining situational
awareness of natural and man-made threats and denied that the government
was monitoring signs of dissent.
However the agency admitted that the language used was vague and in need
of updating.
Spokesman Matthew Chandler told website: 'To ensure clarity, as part of
... routine compliance review, DHS will review the language contained in
all materials to clearly and accurately convey the parameters and
intention of the program.'
They point out that it includes 'vast amounts of First Amendment
protected speech that is entirely unrelated to the Department of
Homeland Security mission to protect the public against terrorism and
disasters.'
A senior Homeland Security official told the Huffington Post that the
manual 'is a starting point, not the endgame' in maintaining situational
awareness of natural and man-made threats and denied that the government
was monitoring signs of dissent.
However the agency admitted that the language used was vague and in need
of updating.
Spokesman Matthew Chandler told website: 'To ensure clarity, as part of
... routine compliance review, DHS will review the language contained in
all materials to clearly and accurately convey the parameters and
intention of the program.'
-----------------
Here's the list.
Let's see if any black helicopters start circling my house...
------------------
Catagory: Domestic Security
Assassination Attack Domestic security
Drill Exercise Cops
Law enforcement Authorities Disaster assistance
Disaster management DNDO (Domestic Nuclear Detection Office)
National preparedness Mitigation Prevention
Response Recovery Dirty bomb
Domestic nuclear detection Emergency management
Emergency response First responder Homeland security
Maritime domain awareness (MDA) National preparedness
initiative Militia Shooting
Shots fired Evacuation Deaths
Hostage Explosion (explosive) Police
Disaster medical assistance team (DMAT) Organized crime Gangs
National security State of emergency Security
Breach Threat Standoff
SWAT Screening Lockdown
Bomb (squad or threat) Crash Looting
Riot Emergency Landing Pipe bomb
Incident Facility HAZMAT & Nuclear
Hazmat Nuclear Chemical spill
Suspicious package/device Toxic National laboratory
Nuclear facility Nuclear threat Cloud
Plume Radiation Radioactive Leak
Biological infection (or event) Chemical
Chemical burn Biological Epidemic
Hazardous Hazardous material incident
Industrial spill Infection Powder (white) Gas
Spillover Anthrax Blister agent
Chemical agent Exposure Burn
Nerve agent Ricin Sarin
North Korea Health Concern + H1N1 Outbreak
Contamination Exposure Virus
Evacuation Bacteria Recall
Ebola Food Poisoning Foot and Mouth (FMD)
H5N1 Avian Flu
Strain Quarantine H1N1
Vaccine Salmonella Small Pox Plague
Human to human Human to Animal Influenza
Center for Disease Control CDC
Federal Drug Administration FDA
Public Health Toxic Agro Terror
Tuberculosis (TB) Tamiflu Norvo Virus
Epidemic Agriculture Listeria Symptoms
Mutation Resistant Antiviral
Wave Pandemic Infection
Water/air borne Sick Swine
Pork World Health Organization
Viral Hemorrhagic Fever E. Coli Anthrax
Tom Daschle Patrick Leahy Patriot Act
Portable Coffins Marshal Law Jesse Ventura
FEMA Police State Internment Camps
Fusion Centers Insurrection Quarantine
Outbreak Pandemic Detention Centers
Kent State G20 Conscription
Civil Rights Suspension Constitution
Consitutional Rights Toilet
Catagory: Infrastructure security
Airport CIKR (Critical Infrastructure& Key
Resources)
AMTRAK Collapse Computer infrastructure
Communications infrastructure Telecommunications
Critical infrastructure National infrastructure
Metro WMATA Airplane (and derivatives)
Chemical fire Subway BART
MARTA Port Authority
NBIC (National Biosurveillance Integration Center)
Transportation security Grid Power
Smart Body scanner Electric Failure or outage
Black out Brown out Port
Dock Bridge Cancelled
Delays Service disruption Power lines
Southwest Border Violence Drug cartel Violence
Gang Drug Narcotics
Cocaine Marijuana Heroin
Border Mexico Cartel
Southwest Juarez Sinaloa
Tijuana Torreon Yuma
Tucson Decapitated U.S. Consulate
Consular El Paso Fort Hancock San Diego
Ciudad Juarez Nogales Sonora
Colombia Mara salvatrucha MS13 or MS-13
Drug war Mexican army Methamphetamine
Cartel de Golfo Gulf Cartel La Familia
Reynosa Nuevo Leon Narcos
Narco banners (Spanish equivalents) Los Zetas
Shootout Execution Gunfight Trafficking
Kidnap Calderon Reyosa
Bust Tamaulipas Meth Lab
Drug trade Illegal immigrants Smuggling (smugglers)
Matamoros Michoacana Guzman
Arellano-Felix Beltran-Leyva Barrio Azteca
Artistic Assassins Mexicles New Federation
Chimichangas Enchilada (red or green)
Tamales Guacamole Mezcal
Tequila Eric Holder ATF
Fast and Furious Oliver North Enron
Catagory: Terrorism
Al Qaeda (all spellings) Terror Attack
Iraq Afghanistan Iran
Pakistan Agro Environmental
terrorist
Eco terrorism Conventional weapon Target
Weapons grade Dirty bomb Enriched
Nuclear Chemical weapon Biological weapon
Ammonium nitrate Improvised explosive device IED
Abu Sayyaf Hamas FARC
Armed Revolutionary Forces Colombia IRA
Irish Republican Army ETA Euskadi ta Askatasuna
Basque Separatists Hezbollah Tamil Tigers
PLF Palestine Liberation Front
PLO Palestine Liberation Organization
Car bomb Jihad Koran
Qur'an Sharia Islam
Islamic Muhammad Shite
Shia Sunni Saudi
Saudi Arabia Lebanon Pakistan
Iran Iranian Taliban
Weapons cache Suicide bomber Suicide attack
Suspicious substance AQAP (AL Qaeda Arabian Peninsula)
AQIM (Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb) TTP
Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan Yemen Pirates
Extremism Somalia Nigeria
Radicals Al-Shabaab Home grown
Plot Nationalist Recruitment
Fundamentalism Islamist Goldman Sachs
Central Banks Bankers Gold
Federal Reserve IRS FBI
Internal Revenue Service CIA NSA
Budget Deficits National Debt War on Terror
Henry Kissinger George Bush Dick Cheney
Donald Rumsfeld War Criminals Neo Conservative
New American Century Saddam Hussein Chemical Weapons
Regime Change Known Unknowns Iraq
Weapons Of Mass Destruction WMD Invasion
Mission Accomplished
Catagory: Weather/Disaster/Emergency
Emergency Hurricane Tornado
Twister Tsunami Earthquake
Tremor Flood Storm
Crest Temblor Extreme weather
Forest fire Brush fire Ice Stranded/Stuck
Help Hail Wildfire
Tsunami Warning Center Magnitude Avalanche
Typhoon Shelter-in-place Disaster
Snow Blizzard Sleet
Mud slide or Mudslide Erosion Power outage
Brown out Warning Watch
Lightening Aid Relief
Closure Interstate Burst
Emergency Broadcast System Katrina New Orleans
Michael Brown FEMA Trailer
Mobile Home Body Bag
Catagory: Cyber Security
Botnet DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
Denial of service Malware Virus
Trojan Keylogger Cyber Command
2600 Spammer Phishing
Rootkit Phreaking Cain and abel (?)
Brute forcing Mysql injection Cyber attack
Cyber terror Hacker China Conficker
Worm Scammers Social media
Facebook Microsoft Windows NT
Windows XP Windows 2000 Windows Vista
Windows 7 Windows 8 Bill Gates
Steve Balmer Developers Developers
Developers Developers
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FromTheRafters
May 28, 2012, 6:00:04 AM5/28/12
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ASCII wrote:
It is.
> Virus Guy wrote:
>> DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
>
> I thought DDOS was (distributed denial of service)?
>> DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
>
It is.
FromTheRafters
May 28, 2012, 6:05:19 AM5/28/12
to
ASCII wrote:
> Virus Guy wrote:
> Virus Guy wrote:
>> DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
>
>
> I thought DDOS was (distributed denial of service)?
Why is it that they think that they can get all spellings of Al Queda
right and yet can't seem to spell category?
Stephen Wolstenholme
May 28, 2012, 6:16:49 AM5/28/12
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Steve
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s|b
May 28, 2012, 8:38:17 AM5/28/12
to
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s|b
Dustin
May 28, 2012, 9:48:36 AM5/28/12
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ASCII <f...@l.se> wrote in news:4fc4288b.712812@PEACE:
> Virus Guy wrote:
>>DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
>
eventually wind down.
--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts
> Virus Guy wrote:
>>DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
>
> I thought DDOS was (distributed denial of service)?
>
It is. no such thing as "dedicated". Even the distributed attacks
>
eventually wind down.
--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts
Charlie
May 28, 2012, 1:31:25 PM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 23:07:51 -0400, Virus Guy wrote:
> Revealed: Hundreds of words to avoid using online if you don't want the
> government spying on you (and they include 'pork', 'cloud' and 'Mexico')
>
Lightening? Did they mean lightning?
> government spying on you (and they include 'pork', 'cloud' and 'Mexico')
>
Portable Coffins? But not permanent built-in coffins I suppose.
The USA is in safe hands with geniuses like that in charge! :>)
FromTheRafters
May 28, 2012, 4:54:39 PM5/28/12
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 06:05:19 -0400, FromTheRafters
> <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> ASCII wrote:
>>> Virus Guy wrote:
>>>> DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
>>>
>>> I thought DDOS was (distributed denial of service)?
>>
>> Why is it that they think that they can get all spellings of Al Queda
>> right and yet can't seem to spell category?
>
> Who are "they"?
>
> Steve
>
Supposedly, the Department of Homeland Security.
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 06:05:19 -0400, FromTheRafters
> <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> ASCII wrote:
>>> Virus Guy wrote:
>>>> DDOS (dedicated denial of service)
>>>
>>> I thought DDOS was (distributed denial of service)?
>>
>> Why is it that they think that they can get all spellings of Al Queda
>> right and yet can't seem to spell category?
>
> Who are "they"?
>
> Steve
>
From a post by Virus Guy:
Message-ID: <4FC2EC07...@Guy.com>
Dustin
May 28, 2012, 5:46:49 PM5/28/12
to
FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:jq0omg$fdg$1
@dont-email.me:
> Supposedly, the Department of Homeland Security.
Does that sound alot like mother russia to anyone else?
DHS used to mean dept of human services. We had no "homeland security".
@dont-email.me:
> Supposedly, the Department of Homeland Security.
DHS used to mean dept of human services. We had no "homeland security".
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David_B
May 28, 2012, 6:40:37 PM5/28/12
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G. Morgan wrote:
> Constitution. I read an article about the director of the NSA
> resigning shortly after 9-11 (very shortly, like in November)
> because he was appalled all the 'stops' were pulled out that were
> specifically in place to NOT have US internal communications in
> the data stream. They were specifically installed to protect US
> citizens from illegal eavesdropping, and removed by executive
> order. Since then all of your phone calls, email, chats, and even
> Skype calls have been archived. A direct violation of the 4th.
There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
He thought he was bright! Dopey, more like! ;-)
> Dustin wrote:
>
>> FromTheRafters<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:jq0omg$fdg$1
>> @dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Supposedly, the Department of Homeland Security.
>>
>> Does that sound alot like mother russia to anyone else?
>> DHS used to mean dept of human services. We had no "homeland security".
>
> 9-11-01 was the perfect excuse to trample all over the
>
>> FromTheRafters<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:jq0omg$fdg$1
>> @dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Supposedly, the Department of Homeland Security.
>>
>> Does that sound alot like mother russia to anyone else?
>> DHS used to mean dept of human services. We had no "homeland security".
>
> Constitution. I read an article about the director of the NSA
> resigning shortly after 9-11 (very shortly, like in November)
> because he was appalled all the 'stops' were pulled out that were
> specifically in place to NOT have US internal communications in
> the data stream. They were specifically installed to protect US
> citizens from illegal eavesdropping, and removed by executive
> order. Since then all of your phone calls, email, chats, and even
> Skype calls have been archived. A direct violation of the 4th.
There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
He thought he was bright! Dopey, more like! ;-)
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Aardvark
May 28, 2012, 7:10:03 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 23:40:37 +0100, David_B wrote:
> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
Evidence of what exactly, you sto0pid cunt?
> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
--
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your personal use and listening pleasure?"
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Aardvark
May 28, 2012, 7:11:25 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:04:06 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
> They don't use that database to satisfy hinky feelings of foreigners.
> ;-)
LOL.
Isn't 'hinky' probable cause? That sto0pid fucker seems to think it is.
> ;-)
LOL.
Isn't 'hinky' probable cause? That sto0pid fucker seems to think it is.
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Aardvark
May 28, 2012, 8:09:27 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:32:18 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
> Only for citizens!
What I find uber-hilarious is that he fancies himself the super-sleuth
and yet obviously has no understanding of evidence, evidence gathering or
the burden of proof. Or even a basic understanding of the law.
Anything he's ever offered as 'supporting evidence' (I've never actually
seen any) would be laughed out of court. That is if the authorities were
so distracted by tears of laughter they accidentally stamped the form
'SEND FOR TRIAL' instead of placing it in its correct file drawer- the
round one.
What I find uber-hilarious is that he fancies himself the super-sleuth
and yet obviously has no understanding of evidence, evidence gathering or
the burden of proof. Or even a basic understanding of the law.
Anything he's ever offered as 'supporting evidence' (I've never actually
seen any) would be laughed out of court. That is if the authorities were
so distracted by tears of laughter they accidentally stamped the form
'SEND FOR TRIAL' instead of placing it in its correct file drawer- the
round one.
Message has been deleted
Dustin
May 28, 2012, 10:15:44 PM5/28/12
to
G. Morgan <seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote in
news:gvs7s75pvd1mhn7ei...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
> Dustin wrote:
>
>>FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:jq0omg$fdg$1
>>@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Supposedly, the Department of Homeland Security.
>>
>>Does that sound alot like mother russia to anyone else?
>>DHS used to mean dept of human services. We had no "homeland security".
>
rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual rights in the
courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our government is good at breaking
it's own rules.
news:gvs7s75pvd1mhn7ei...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
> Dustin wrote:
>
>>FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:jq0omg$fdg$1
>>@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Supposedly, the Department of Homeland Security.
>>
>>Does that sound alot like mother russia to anyone else?
>>DHS used to mean dept of human services. We had no "homeland security".
>
> 9-11-01 was the perfect excuse to trample all over the
> Constitution. I read an article about the director of the NSA
> resigning shortly after 9-11 (very shortly, like in November)
> because he was appalled all the 'stops' were pulled out that were
> specifically in place to NOT have US internal communications in
> the data stream. They were specifically installed to protect US
> citizens from illegal eavesdropping, and removed by executive
> order. Since then all of your phone calls, email, chats, and even
> Skype calls have been archived. A direct violation of the 4th.
I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I have
> Constitution. I read an article about the director of the NSA
> resigning shortly after 9-11 (very shortly, like in November)
> because he was appalled all the 'stops' were pulled out that were
> specifically in place to NOT have US internal communications in
> the data stream. They were specifically installed to protect US
> citizens from illegal eavesdropping, and removed by executive
> order. Since then all of your phone calls, email, chats, and even
> Skype calls have been archived. A direct violation of the 4th.
rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual rights in the
courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our government is good at breaking
it's own rules.
Dustin
May 28, 2012, 10:17:49 PM5/28/12
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David_B <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:jq0ut7$l0s$1...@dont-email.me:
> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
Luckily, the US actually understands the concept of evidence. We split
from your joke of a legal system for a reason.
> He thought he was bright! Dopey, more like! ;-)
Is this your typical response for starting fights where you get your ass
handed to you for the trouble?
news:jq0ut7$l0s$1...@dont-email.me:
> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
from your joke of a legal system for a reason.
> He thought he was bright! Dopey, more like! ;-)
handed to you for the trouble?
Dustin
May 28, 2012, 10:19:42 PM5/28/12
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Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in news:jq10kb$s6c$2@dont-
email.me:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 23:40:37 +0100, David_B wrote:
>
>> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
>
> Evidence of what exactly, you sto0pid cunt?
I ask and ask, and yet.. nothing. :)
Your signature is a good clue as to his evidence collecting abilities as
well as his understanding of technology.
"Tell me, truthfully, do *you* download music from The Pirate Bay for
your personal use and listening pleasure?"
Clever guy BD in post <gLidnTjP2tgGPy7S...@bt.com>
Tis not and never has been illegal to upload or download torrents. Poor
SOB can't google what a torrent even is before he opens his mouth and shit
spews forth.
email.me:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 23:40:37 +0100, David_B wrote:
>
>> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
>
> Evidence of what exactly, you sto0pid cunt?
Your signature is a good clue as to his evidence collecting abilities as
well as his understanding of technology.
"Tell me, truthfully, do *you* download music from The Pirate Bay for
your personal use and listening pleasure?"
Clever guy BD in post <gLidnTjP2tgGPy7S...@bt.com>
SOB can't google what a torrent even is before he opens his mouth and shit
spews forth.
Dustin
May 28, 2012, 10:24:10 PM5/28/12
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> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
Many empty promises. It's all you have left I suppose. :)
> He thought he was bright! Dopey, more like! ;-)
force my hand or otherwise intimidate me into doing your bidding. You
posted what you thought was a google streetmap view of my house. You
were wrong. HHI posted what is the actual address to your recently moved
into home as well as your real telephone number. You can't even seek
legal options for that as you provided the world your information when
you registered the website yourself. [g]
You have no legal recourse, David. You may look over your shoulder
wondering when someone you've pissed off online has decided to come pay
you a visit. Isn't it fun? That's what you had in mind for me, David.
Don't you find it sweet poetic justice that's exactly what happened to
*you*? I do.
I promised it would get worse, right? Have I shown you yet that I make
good on those? Don't worry, I will. :)
David_B
May 29, 2012, 3:34:19 AM5/29/12
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Dustin wrote:
> David_B<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jq0ut7$l0s$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
>
> Many empty promises. It's all you have left I suppose. :)
>
>> He thought he was bright! Dopey, more like! ;-)
>
> Wrong. You *know* I'm bright. You made the mistake of thinking you could
> force my hand or otherwise intimidate me into doing your bidding. You
> posted what you thought was a google streetmap view of my house. You
> were wrong. HHI posted what is the actual address to your recently moved
> into home as well as your real telephone number. You can't even seek
> legal options for that as you provided the world your information when
> you registered the website yourself. [g]
You don't seem to comprehend that honest citizens have no need to hide,
> David_B<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jq0ut7$l0s$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> There's more than enough evidence to send Dustin Cook to prison.
>
> Many empty promises. It's all you have left I suppose. :)
>
>> He thought he was bright! Dopey, more like! ;-)
>
> Wrong. You *know* I'm bright. You made the mistake of thinking you could
> force my hand or otherwise intimidate me into doing your bidding. You
> posted what you thought was a google streetmap view of my house. You
> were wrong. HHI posted what is the actual address to your recently moved
> into home as well as your real telephone number. You can't even seek
> legal options for that as you provided the world your information when
> you registered the website yourself. [g]
Dustin.
> You have no legal recourse, David. You may look over your shoulder
> wondering when someone you've pissed off online has decided to come pay
> you a visit. Isn't it fun? That's what you had in mind for me, David.
> Don't you find it sweet poetic justice that's exactly what happened to
> *you*? I do.
>
> I promised it would get worse, right? Have I shown you yet that I make
> good on those? Don't worry, I will. :)
are, dear boy!
http://www.usa-people-search.com/Results.aspx?view=PE
You have made it plain in the alt.2600 newsgroup that you *are* involved
in illegal activity. The group is monitored by the 'security services'
and you are a marked man. Are you *sure* you aren't going to that prison
cell?
Timmy
May 29, 2012, 11:59:29 AM5/29/12
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Dustin wrote ...
>
> I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I have
> rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual rights in the
> courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our government is good at breaking
> it's own rules.
"...Luckily, the US actually understands the concept of evidence.
We split from your joke of a legal system for a reason..."
Make your fucking mind up.
>
> I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I have
> rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual rights in the
> courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our government is good at breaking
> it's own rules.
We split from your joke of a legal system for a reason..."
Make your fucking mind up.
Dustin
May 29, 2012, 12:22:53 PM5/29/12
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David_B <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:jq1u5p$mu$1...@dont-email.me:
> You don't seem to comprehend that honest citizens have no need to
> hide, Dustin.
If you really believe that, I have a water bridge in Arizona and some
ocean front property I'll throw in free.
> Dustin J Cook typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where
> *you* are, dear boy!
It tells people where anybody it thinks Dustin J cooks might be, you meant
to say.
> You have made it plain in the alt.2600 newsgroup that you *are*
> involved in illegal activity. The group is monitored by the 'security
> services' and you are a marked man. Are you *sure* you aren't going
> to that prison cell?
Please cite MID's to backup these absurd claims.
news:jq1u5p$mu$1...@dont-email.me:
> You don't seem to comprehend that honest citizens have no need to
> hide, Dustin.
ocean front property I'll throw in free.
> Dustin J Cook typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where
> *you* are, dear boy!
to say.
> You have made it plain in the alt.2600 newsgroup that you *are*
> involved in illegal activity. The group is monitored by the 'security
> services' and you are a marked man. Are you *sure* you aren't going
> to that prison cell?
Dustin
May 29, 2012, 12:23:46 PM5/29/12
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Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
news:MPG.2a2f02b99...@news.aioe.org:
What part of US and TN confused you so easily? TN is a state inside the
US. You do realize (No, you didn't, but this is still fun) that TN is only
a fucking state? It doesn't represent the country as a whole.
news:MPG.2a2f02b99...@news.aioe.org:
US. You do realize (No, you didn't, but this is still fun) that TN is only
a fucking state? It doesn't represent the country as a whole.
Aardvark
May 29, 2012, 1:51:53 PM5/29/12
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:-)
David_B
May 29, 2012, 5:05:56 PM5/29/12
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Dustin wrote:
> David_B<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jq1u5p$mu$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> You don't seem to comprehend that honest citizens have no need to
>> hide, Dustin.
>
> If you really believe that, I have a water bridge in Arizona and some
> ocean front property I'll throw in free.
>
>> Dustin J Cook typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where
>> *you* are, dear boy!
>
> It tells people where anybody it thinks Dustin J cooks might be, you meant
> to say.
There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
> David_B<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jq1u5p$mu$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> You don't seem to comprehend that honest citizens have no need to
>> hide, Dustin.
>
> If you really believe that, I have a water bridge in Arizona and some
> ocean front property I'll throw in free.
>
>> Dustin J Cook typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where
>> *you* are, dear boy!
>
> It tells people where anybody it thinks Dustin J cooks might be, you meant
> to say.
>> You have made it plain in the alt.2600 newsgroup that you *are*
>> involved in illegal activity. The group is monitored by the 'security
>> services' and you are a marked man. Are you *sure* you aren't going
>> to that prison cell?
>
> Please cite MID's to backup these absurd claims.
Timmy
May 29, 2012, 6:02:58 PM5/29/12
to
Dustin wrote ...
>
> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
> news:MPG.2a2f02b99...@news.aioe.org:
>
> > Dustin wrote ...
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I
> >> have rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual
> >> rights in the courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our government
> >> is good at breaking it's own rules.
> >
> >
> > "...Luckily, the US actually understands the concept of evidence.
> > We split from your joke of a legal system for a reason..."
> >
> >
> > Make your fucking mind up.
> >
>
> What part of US and TN confused you so easily? TN is a state inside the
> US. You do realize (No, you didn't, but this is still fun) that TN is only
> a fucking state? It doesn't represent the country as a whole.
So... the US understands evidence - except some parts don't.
Yup - complete and utter bollocks.
I can't be arsed with caging people without trial, or forcing people to
accept short prison sentences because the evidence isn't strong - etc
etc
>
> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
> news:MPG.2a2f02b99...@news.aioe.org:
>
> > Dustin wrote ...
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I
> >> have rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual
> >> rights in the courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our government
> >> is good at breaking it's own rules.
> >
> >
> > "...Luckily, the US actually understands the concept of evidence.
> > We split from your joke of a legal system for a reason..."
> >
> >
> > Make your fucking mind up.
> >
>
> What part of US and TN confused you so easily? TN is a state inside the
> US. You do realize (No, you didn't, but this is still fun) that TN is only
> a fucking state? It doesn't represent the country as a whole.
Yup - complete and utter bollocks.
I can't be arsed with caging people without trial, or forcing people to
accept short prison sentences because the evidence isn't strong - etc
etc
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Aardvark
May 29, 2012, 8:16:11 PM5/29/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:34 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
> David_B wrote:
>
> David_B wrote:
>
>>There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>
> Here you can get his drivers license with picture and all!
>
>
> http://www.license.shorturl.com/
That's a pretty handy resource for self-righteous fuckers like BD, mate.
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Dustin
May 29, 2012, 10:29:04 PM5/29/12
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David_B <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:jq3dnj$459$1...@dont-email.me:
> Dustin wrote:
>> David_B<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:jq1u5p$mu$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> You don't seem to comprehend that honest citizens have no need to
>>> hide, Dustin.
>>
>> If you really believe that, I have a water bridge in Arizona and
>> some ocean front property I'll throw in free.
>>
>>> Dustin J Cook typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where
>>> *you* are, dear boy!
>>
>> It tells people where anybody it thinks Dustin J cooks might be, you
>> meant to say.
>
> There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
Look at this photograph.. every time I do it makes me laugh. How did our
eyes get so red? And what the hell is on Joeys head...
> No, Dustin. You *were* warned.
hehehehe. I told you I wasn't bluffing a long long time ago, David. LoL.
You just had to find out, didn't ya? Just had to see ... well.. by the
attitude you have with me now, it seems you are beginning to see. lol
Stand down, or I'll reign hell down upon you, David.
news:jq3dnj$459$1...@dont-email.me:
> Dustin wrote:
>> David_B<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:jq1u5p$mu$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> You don't seem to comprehend that honest citizens have no need to
>>> hide, Dustin.
>>
>> If you really believe that, I have a water bridge in Arizona and
>> some ocean front property I'll throw in free.
>>
>>> Dustin J Cook typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where
>>> *you* are, dear boy!
>>
>> It tells people where anybody it thinks Dustin J cooks might be, you
>> meant to say.
>
> There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
eyes get so red? And what the hell is on Joeys head...
> No, Dustin. You *were* warned.
You just had to find out, didn't ya? Just had to see ... well.. by the
attitude you have with me now, it seems you are beginning to see. lol
Stand down, or I'll reign hell down upon you, David.
Dustin
May 29, 2012, 10:31:09 PM5/29/12
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G. Morgan <seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote in
news:t3las7t7fckckbatt...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
> David_B wrote:
>
>>There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>
Looks like the coppers will get me now! Muahaha
Dustin
May 29, 2012, 10:33:29 PM5/29/12
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Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
news:MPG.2a2f57dc5...@news.aioe.org:
> Dustin wrote ...
>
>>
>> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
>> news:MPG.2a2f02b99...@news.aioe.org:
>>
>> > Dustin wrote ...
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I
>> >> have rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual
>> >> rights in the courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our
>> >> government is good at breaking it's own rules.
>> >
>> >
>> > "...Luckily, the US actually understands the concept of evidence.
>> > We split from your joke of a legal system for a reason..."
>> >
>> >
>> > Make your fucking mind up.
>> >
>>
>> What part of US and TN confused you so easily? TN is a state inside
>> the US. You do realize (No, you didn't, but this is still fun) that
>> TN is only a fucking state? It doesn't represent the country as a
>> whole.
>
>
> So... the US understands evidence - except some parts don't.
Did I write that? Nope. I didn't.
> I can't be arsed with caging people without trial, or forcing people
> to accept short prison sentences because the evidence isn't strong -
> etc etc
An interesting fairytale way of looking at things. Innocence always
prevails in your area?
news:MPG.2a2f57dc5...@news.aioe.org:
> Dustin wrote ...
>
>>
>> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
>> news:MPG.2a2f02b99...@news.aioe.org:
>>
>> > Dustin wrote ...
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I
>> >> have rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual
>> >> rights in the courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our
>> >> government is good at breaking it's own rules.
>> >
>> >
>> > "...Luckily, the US actually understands the concept of evidence.
>> > We split from your joke of a legal system for a reason..."
>> >
>> >
>> > Make your fucking mind up.
>> >
>>
>> What part of US and TN confused you so easily? TN is a state inside
>> the US. You do realize (No, you didn't, but this is still fun) that
>> TN is only a fucking state? It doesn't represent the country as a
>> whole.
>
>
> So... the US understands evidence - except some parts don't.
> I can't be arsed with caging people without trial, or forcing people
> to accept short prison sentences because the evidence isn't strong -
> etc etc
prevails in your area?
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David_B
May 30, 2012, 2:02:20 AM5/30/12
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G. Morgan wrote:
> David_B wrote:
>
> David_B wrote:
>
>> There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>
Great fun! :-D
>
Timmy
May 30, 2012, 12:20:17 PM5/30/12
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Dustin wrote ...
>
> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
> news:MPG.2a2f57dc5...@news.aioe.org:
>
> > Dustin wrote ...
> >
> >>
> >> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
> >> news:MPG.2a2f02b99...@news.aioe.org:
> >>
> >> > Dustin wrote ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I
> >> >> have rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual
> >> >> rights in the courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our
> >> >> government is good at breaking it's own rules.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "...Luckily, the US actually understands the concept of evidence.
> >> > We split from your joke of a legal system for a reason..."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Make your fucking mind up.
> >> >
> >>
> >> What part of US and TN confused you so easily? TN is a state inside
> >> the US. You do realize (No, you didn't, but this is still fun) that
> >> TN is only a fucking state? It doesn't represent the country as a
> >> whole.
> >
> >
> > So... the US understands evidence - except some parts don't.
>
> Did I write that? Nope. I didn't.
You saying that isn't so ?
>
> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
> news:MPG.2a2f57dc5...@news.aioe.org:
>
> > Dustin wrote ...
> >
> >>
> >> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
> >> news:MPG.2a2f02b99...@news.aioe.org:
> >>
> >> > Dustin wrote ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I've had a taste of the kanagroo court system in TN. I realize I
> >> >> have rights on paper, but that doesn't always equate to actual
> >> >> rights in the courtroom. So this, surprises me none. Our
> >> >> government is good at breaking it's own rules.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "...Luckily, the US actually understands the concept of evidence.
> >> > We split from your joke of a legal system for a reason..."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Make your fucking mind up.
> >> >
> >>
> >> What part of US and TN confused you so easily? TN is a state inside
> >> the US. You do realize (No, you didn't, but this is still fun) that
> >> TN is only a fucking state? It doesn't represent the country as a
> >> whole.
> >
> >
> > So... the US understands evidence - except some parts don't.
>
> Did I write that? Nope. I didn't.
According to the evidence you provided - it is.
>
> > I can't be arsed with caging people without trial, or forcing people
> > to accept short prison sentences because the evidence isn't strong -
> > etc etc
>
> An interesting fairytale way of looking at things. Innocence always
> prevails in your area?
>
>
prison, the rich get away with it. You should try it sometime.
Dustin
May 30, 2012, 2:27:28 PM5/30/12
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Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
news:MPG.2a305917d...@news.aioe.org:
> You saying that isn't so ?
> According to the evidence you provided - it is.
I didn't even use the word evidence in my original post. I simply said
that whats on the books isn't always how it plays out in the courtroom.
Sometimes the cops/judge are friends (drinking buddies) and one owes the
other a small favor. That illegal stop just became legal. As does the ill
gotten goods gained from it.
Think it doesn't work this way? If you do, you have very limited/no
experience with encountering law enforcement in the south.
Not that all police are bad, I'm sure some are decent people. OTH, The
badge and gun gives some a very large head and they use the awesome power.
news:MPG.2a305917d...@news.aioe.org:
> You saying that isn't so ?
> According to the evidence you provided - it is.
that whats on the books isn't always how it plays out in the courtroom.
Sometimes the cops/judge are friends (drinking buddies) and one owes the
other a small favor. That illegal stop just became legal. As does the ill
gotten goods gained from it.
Think it doesn't work this way? If you do, you have very limited/no
experience with encountering law enforcement in the south.
Not that all police are bad, I'm sure some are decent people. OTH, The
badge and gun gives some a very large head and they use the awesome power.
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Aardvark
May 30, 2012, 8:06:01 PM5/30/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 13:57:30 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
> Dustin wrote:
>
> Dustin wrote:
>
>>Not that all police are bad, I'm sure some are decent people. OTH, The
>>badge and gun gives some a very large head and they use the awesome
>>power.
>
> Just in case you missed it before, everyone needs to watch this in the
>>badge and gun gives some a very large head and they use the awesome
>>power.
>
> US....
>
> "Don't talk to police" (49 minutes that may save your ass one day)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
>
> "An law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you
> why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police."
Watched the whole thing a couple of years ago, mate. Very educational.
Timmy
May 31, 2012, 5:52:07 AM5/31/12
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Dustin wrote ...
>
> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
> news:MPG.2a305917d...@news.aioe.org:
>
> > You saying that isn't so ?
> > According to the evidence you provided - it is.
>
> I didn't even use the word evidence in my original post. I simply said
> that whats on the books isn't always how it plays out in the courtroom.
>
> Sometimes the cops/judge are friends (drinking buddies) and one owes the
> other a small favor. That illegal stop just became legal. As does the ill
> gotten goods gained from it.
>
> Think it doesn't work this way? If you do, you have very limited/no
> experience with encountering law enforcement in the south.
I have no wish to encounter any yankie cops. As you and I know, most
are bent. So much for evidence eh?
> Not that all police are bad, I'm sure some are decent people. OTH, The
> badge and gun gives some a very large head and they use the awesome power.
Yup - fat cunts who shoot rather than get off their huge arses. Thank
fuck we don't allow ordinary police to have guns over here.
>
> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
> news:MPG.2a305917d...@news.aioe.org:
>
> > You saying that isn't so ?
> > According to the evidence you provided - it is.
>
> I didn't even use the word evidence in my original post. I simply said
> that whats on the books isn't always how it plays out in the courtroom.
>
> Sometimes the cops/judge are friends (drinking buddies) and one owes the
> other a small favor. That illegal stop just became legal. As does the ill
> gotten goods gained from it.
>
> Think it doesn't work this way? If you do, you have very limited/no
> experience with encountering law enforcement in the south.
are bent. So much for evidence eh?
> Not that all police are bad, I'm sure some are decent people. OTH, The
> badge and gun gives some a very large head and they use the awesome power.
fuck we don't allow ordinary police to have guns over here.
Dustin
May 31, 2012, 10:37:18 AM5/31/12
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Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
news:MPG.2a314f914...@news.aioe.org:
> Dustin wrote ...
>
>>
>> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
>> news:MPG.2a305917d...@news.aioe.org:
>>
>> > You saying that isn't so ?
>> > According to the evidence you provided - it is.
>>
>> I didn't even use the word evidence in my original post. I simply
>> said that whats on the books isn't always how it plays out in the
>> courtroom.
>>
>> Sometimes the cops/judge are friends (drinking buddies) and one owes
>> the other a small favor. That illegal stop just became legal. As
>> does the ill gotten goods gained from it.
>>
>> Think it doesn't work this way? If you do, you have very limited/no
>> experience with encountering law enforcement in the south.
>
> I have no wish to encounter any yankie cops. As you and I know, most
> are bent. So much for evidence eh?
Can't blame you. :)
> Yup - fat cunts who shoot rather than get off their huge arses.
It's gotten to the point where we had a non lethal use of force slogan
for awhile. Still do in some areas. Put your drink down....
..
...
Okay.. last chance.. to put the drink down.
"Don't tase me bro!"
> Thank fuck we don't allow ordinary police to have guns over here.
I've wondered about that. I find myself asking... would I stop for one
if they told me to. Being as they have no gun to shoot me in the back or
leg with. Seems they do have tasers tho. That could put a damper on my
otherwise sunshiny day.
news:MPG.2a314f914...@news.aioe.org:
> Dustin wrote ...
>
>>
>> Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote in
>> news:MPG.2a305917d...@news.aioe.org:
>>
>> > You saying that isn't so ?
>> > According to the evidence you provided - it is.
>>
>> I didn't even use the word evidence in my original post. I simply
>> said that whats on the books isn't always how it plays out in the
>> courtroom.
>>
>> Sometimes the cops/judge are friends (drinking buddies) and one owes
>> the other a small favor. That illegal stop just became legal. As
>> does the ill gotten goods gained from it.
>>
>> Think it doesn't work this way? If you do, you have very limited/no
>> experience with encountering law enforcement in the south.
>
> I have no wish to encounter any yankie cops. As you and I know, most
> are bent. So much for evidence eh?
> Yup - fat cunts who shoot rather than get off their huge arses.
for awhile. Still do in some areas. Put your drink down....
..
...
Okay.. last chance.. to put the drink down.
"Don't tase me bro!"
> Thank fuck we don't allow ordinary police to have guns over here.
if they told me to. Being as they have no gun to shoot me in the back or
leg with. Seems they do have tasers tho. That could put a damper on my
otherwise sunshiny day.
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Aardvark
Jun 13, 2012, 6:36:32 PM6/13/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 20:41:23 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
> Aardvark wrote:
>
> Aardvark wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:34 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> David_B wrote:
>>>
>>>>There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>>>
>>> Here you can get his drivers license with picture and all!
>>>
>>> http://www.license.shorturl.com/
>>
>>That's a pretty handy resource for self-righteous fuckers like BD, mate.
>
> Lol...you didn't try it apparently.
>>
>>> David_B wrote:
>>>
>>>>There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>>>
>>> Here you can get his drivers license with picture and all!
>>>
>>> http://www.license.shorturl.com/
>>
>>That's a pretty handy resource for self-righteous fuckers like BD, mate.
>
I did see it, mate- that's why I thought it'd suit fuckers like him.
:-)
Sorry I was slightly tardy replying.
David_B
Jun 15, 2012, 8:26:33 AM6/15/12
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Aardvark wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 20:41:23 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>
>> Aardvark wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:34 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>>
>>>> David_B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>>>>
>>>> Here you can get his drivers license with picture and all!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.license.shorturl.com/
>>>
>>> That's a pretty handy resource for self-righteous fuckers like BD, mate.
>>
>> Lol...you didn't try it apparently.
>
> I did see it, mate- that's why I thought it'd suit fuckers like him.
>
> :-)
>
> Sorry I was slightly tardy replying.
Dustin J Cook, typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where he
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 20:41:23 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>
>> Aardvark wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:34 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>>
>>>> David_B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>>>>
>>>> Here you can get his drivers license with picture and all!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.license.shorturl.com/
>>>
>>> That's a pretty handy resource for self-righteous fuckers like BD, mate.
>>
>> Lol...you didn't try it apparently.
>
> I did see it, mate- that's why I thought it'd suit fuckers like him.
>
> :-)
>
> Sorry I was slightly tardy replying.
lives: http://www.usa-people-search.com/Results.aspx?view=PE
He is number 9. ;-)
He *is* being watched - believe me!
Aardvark
Jun 15, 2012, 11:39:23 AM6/15/12
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:26:33 +0100, David_B wrote:
> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 20:41:23 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:34 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David_B wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here you can get his drivers license with picture and all!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.license.shorturl.com/
>>>>
>>>> That's a pretty handy resource for self-righteous fuckers like BD,
mate.
>>>
>>> Lol...you didn't try it apparently.
>>
>> I did see it, mate- that's why I thought it'd suit fuckers like him.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Sorry I was slightly tardy replying.
>
> Dustin J Cook, typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where he
> lives: http://<SNIP>
> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 20:41:23 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:34 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David_B wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no hiding for you, Dustin. They have you photograph too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here you can get his drivers license with picture and all!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.license.shorturl.com/
>>>>
>>>> That's a pretty handy resource for self-righteous fuckers like BD,
mate.
>>>
>>> Lol...you didn't try it apparently.
>>
>> I did see it, mate- that's why I thought it'd suit fuckers like him.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Sorry I was slightly tardy replying.
>
> Dustin J Cook, typed into the search box, here, tells anyone where he
And why the fuck would I be interested in Dustin's home address? He's
reliable and trustworthy and has never done me (or anyone who didn't
deserve it) any harm.
>
> He is number 9.
Whatever. I'm not fucking interested.
> He *is* being watched - believe me!
--
Dear David Cameron, Respect our privacy. Stop the internet
and phone snooping plan. Sign the petition at:
<http://snipurl.com/23xyqsk>
Dustin
Jun 15, 2012, 6:01:02 PM6/15/12
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David_B <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:jrf9lk$55a$1...@dont-email.me:
> He is number 9. ;-)
So we have a green light on stage 2. I see. you *will* be sorry. :)
You just think I have no morals. Just wait till you see what happens in a
few days. [g]
I'm going to give you an all new meaning to being 0wned.
news:jrf9lk$55a$1...@dont-email.me:
> He is number 9. ;-)
You just think I have no morals. Just wait till you see what happens in a
few days. [g]
I'm going to give you an all new meaning to being 0wned.
Aardvark
Jun 15, 2012, 6:23:46 PM6/15/12
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:01:02 +0000, Dustin wrote:
> David_B <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jrf9lk$55a$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> He is number 9. ;-)
>
> So we have a green light on stage 2. I see.
Very kind of him to give you permission like that, eh?
> David_B <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jrf9lk$55a$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> He is number 9. ;-)
>
> So we have a green light on stage 2. I see.
> you *will* be sorry. :)
> You just think I have no morals. Just wait till you see what happens in
> a few days. [g]
>
> I'm going to give you an all new meaning to being 0wned.
English inland waterway, it would seem. Or so he would have us believe.
Dustin
Jun 15, 2012, 9:57:19 PM6/15/12
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Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in news:jrgcli$44m$2@dont-
email.me:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:01:02 +0000, Dustin wrote:
>
>> David_B <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:jrf9lk$55a$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> He is number 9. ;-)
>>
>> So we have a green light on stage 2. I see.
>
> Very kind of him to give you permission like that, eh?
>
>> you *will* be sorry. :)
>> You just think I have no morals. Just wait till you see what happens in
>> a few days. [g]
>>
>> I'm going to give you an all new meaning to being 0wned.
>
> He may not notice the effects for a while, Dustin. He's somewhere on an
> English inland waterway, it would seem. Or so he would have us believe.
>
>
>
Oh... an unguarded home... heh heh heh...
email.me:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:01:02 +0000, Dustin wrote:
>
>> David_B <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:jrf9lk$55a$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> He is number 9. ;-)
>>
>> So we have a green light on stage 2. I see.
>
> Very kind of him to give you permission like that, eh?
>
>> you *will* be sorry. :)
>> You just think I have no morals. Just wait till you see what happens in
>> a few days. [g]
>>
>> I'm going to give you an all new meaning to being 0wned.
>
> He may not notice the effects for a while, Dustin. He's somewhere on an
> English inland waterway, it would seem. Or so he would have us believe.
>
>
>
David_B
Jun 22, 2012, 10:23:12 AM6/22/12
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Dustin wrote:
> Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in news:jrgcli$44m$2@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:01:02 +0000, Dustin wrote:
>>
>>> David_B <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>>> news:jrf9lk$55a$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> He is number 9. ;-)
>>>
>>> So we have a green light on stage 2. I see.
>>
>> Very kind of him to give you permission like that, eh?
>>
>>> you *will* be sorry. :)
>>> You just think I have no morals. Just wait till you see what happens in
>>> a few days. [g]
>>>
>>> I'm going to give you an all new meaning to being 0wned.
>>
>> He may not notice the effects for a while, Dustin. He's somewhere on an
>> English inland waterway, it would seem. Or so he would have us believe.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Oh... an unguarded home... heh heh heh...
Or maybe rented out to a tenant - who is armed to the teeth?
> Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in news:jrgcli$44m$2@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:01:02 +0000, Dustin wrote:
>>
>>> David_B <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>>> news:jrf9lk$55a$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> He is number 9. ;-)
>>>
>>> So we have a green light on stage 2. I see.
>>
>> Very kind of him to give you permission like that, eh?
>>
>>> you *will* be sorry. :)
>>> You just think I have no morals. Just wait till you see what happens in
>>> a few days. [g]
>>>
>>> I'm going to give you an all new meaning to being 0wned.
>>
>> He may not notice the effects for a while, Dustin. He's somewhere on an
>> English inland waterway, it would seem. Or so he would have us believe.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Oh... an unguarded home... heh heh heh...
One simply cannot tell, can one? ;-)
Dustin
Jun 22, 2012, 5:41:24 PM6/22/12
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David_B <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:js1v49$82l$1...@dont-email.me:
Sure would be a shame if they were mistakenly harmed due to mistaken
identity... wouldn't it? :) Do they have the required permits? Wouldn't
want them arrested if they fired on someone...
You don't have the required permit for the weapons you've mentioned in
public on usenet (as you like to say, it's all a matter of factual
record) as having possession of. That has mandatory time. Tsk tsk.
And well, heh, electrical fires start sometimes outside the home itself
too... Burn it to nothing ness... I've rewired many a burnout. They all
smell the same during the process. Burnt and stinky.
> One simply cannot tell, can one? ;-)
Wrong as usual. In some cases, probably doesn't even matter. Won't in
yours. :)
When are you coming back to shore David? I hear you have a welcoming
party. You have got to know by now that some of us aren't just bsing
you. Your information was provided in shinedown cds and, you are going
to be talking to the police when you come ashore.
Well, We've both derailed this topic into a pile of stinky poo. I look
forward to more discussion in alt.2600 where anything is on topic it
seems.
news:js1v49$82l$1...@dont-email.me:
identity... wouldn't it? :) Do they have the required permits? Wouldn't
want them arrested if they fired on someone...
You don't have the required permit for the weapons you've mentioned in
public on usenet (as you like to say, it's all a matter of factual
record) as having possession of. That has mandatory time. Tsk tsk.
And well, heh, electrical fires start sometimes outside the home itself
too... Burn it to nothing ness... I've rewired many a burnout. They all
smell the same during the process. Burnt and stinky.
> One simply cannot tell, can one? ;-)
yours. :)
When are you coming back to shore David? I hear you have a welcoming
party. You have got to know by now that some of us aren't just bsing
you. Your information was provided in shinedown cds and, you are going
to be talking to the police when you come ashore.
Well, We've both derailed this topic into a pile of stinky poo. I look
forward to more discussion in alt.2600 where anything is on topic it
seems.
Aardvark
Jun 23, 2012, 11:49:28 AM6/23/12
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:41:24 +0000, Dustin wrote:
> Wouldn't want them arrested if they fired on someone...
LOL. You fire on someone over here, Dustin, and you get arrested. No
> Wouldn't want them arrested if they fired on someone...
matter what the circumstances.
You also stand a good chance of serving time, whatever the circumstances.
--
You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence,
if you fail to mention, when questioned, something which you
may later rely on in court. Anything you do say, may be given
in evidence. Do you understand?
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Aardvark
Jun 23, 2012, 2:28:40 PM6/23/12
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:05:42 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
> Aardvark wrote:
>
> Aardvark wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:41:24 +0000, Dustin wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't want them arrested if they fired on someone...
>>
>>LOL. You fire on someone over here, Dustin, and you get arrested. No
>>matter what the circumstances.
>>
>>You also stand a good chance of serving time, whatever the
>>circumstances.
>
> So those with the proper gun permits are not allowed to use them in
>>
>>> Wouldn't want them arrested if they fired on someone...
>>
>>LOL. You fire on someone over here, Dustin, and you get arrested. No
>>matter what the circumstances.
>>
>>You also stand a good chance of serving time, whatever the
>>circumstances.
>
> self-defense at home?
Nope. The only part of the UK in which a FAC can be issued for the
explicit purpose of self-defence is Northern Ireland. Understandably.
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Aardvark
Jun 23, 2012, 3:55:26 PM6/23/12
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:47:12 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
> Aardvark wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:05:42 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:41:24 +0000, Dustin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't want them arrested if they fired on someone...
>>>>
>>>>LOL. You fire on someone over here, Dustin, and you get arrested. No
>>>>matter what the circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>You also stand a good chance of serving time, whatever the
>>>>circumstances.
>>>
>>> So those with the proper gun permits are not allowed to use them in
>>> self-defense at home?
>>
>>Nope. The only part of the UK in which a FAC can be issued for the
>>explicit purpose of self-defence is Northern Ireland. Understandably.
>
> I get that, but if a sportsman had one and got "jacked up" at home why
> Aardvark wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:05:42 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>
>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:41:24 +0000, Dustin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't want them arrested if they fired on someone...
>>>>
>>>>LOL. You fire on someone over here, Dustin, and you get arrested. No
>>>>matter what the circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>You also stand a good chance of serving time, whatever the
>>>>circumstances.
>>>
>>> So those with the proper gun permits are not allowed to use them in
>>> self-defense at home?
>>
>>Nope. The only part of the UK in which a FAC can be issued for the
>>explicit purpose of self-defence is Northern Ireland. Understandably.
>
> wouldn't he use it if his life was in danger? Has there been case law
> that put an honest man behind bars for using a firearm in self-defense?
Conditions of a FAC stipulate that firearms must be kept in a strong
locker bolted to a wall or floor or both, unloaded and with the
ammunition separate at all times. The police will inspect this locker
before they finally grant the FAC, and even after that they'll do spot
checks without notice.
If a FAC holder has time to go and unlock his gun locker, load his gun
and shoot someone, by law the act cannot have been anything but
premeditated, mate. Confiscation of firearms for ever, withdrawal of FAC
with zero chance of ever getting it back, and a prison sentence is what
awaits anyone who does something like that.
In short, over here if you shoot someone, you're in deep, deep shit.
And rightly so, IMO.
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Aardvark
Jun 23, 2012, 5:43:59 PM6/23/12
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> load up (alarm system maybe)?
I couldn't give you a definitive answer, mate. It would depend on the
exact circumstances of the particular incident. A quick search tells me
that such a case may not exist. If you can find one, please let me know.
> Is there anyone that has been convicted
> for the 'crime' of defending his home and family using a firearm?
The nearest thing I can think of is this:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_%28farmer%29>
What muddies the waters in this case is that Martin had a shotgun
illegally, then he shot the intruders as they ran away.
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