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ATTN: APAS newcomers-wannabe: Troll/Flood-free NewsServers (FROG, FRELL)

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Frog-Admin

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Mar 18, 2004, 12:02:40 PM3/18/04
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You may have noticed that apas is periodically vandalized by trolls
and flooders.
Most "regulars" here have their own filtering tools
to keep the newsgroup readable for themselves.
"Newcomers" arrive naked to a place where the Usenet equivalent of a
full battlefield gear would be advisable, and both bandwidth and
attention may suffer.

In an effort to make your APAS experience more enjoyable, since '2002
I opened for public use the NewsServer I read through *myself*
whether at home or from some dial-up when travelling abroad
(i.e. with *my* filtering rules,
I feed from 3 upstream NewsServers
this satisfies *me* and 50-80 regular users so far)

FROG
server name: frogadmin.yi.org
port: 119 (standard)
user: (none)
password: (none)
newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
alt.anonymous.messages
alt.test
local.frog.chat
access: read/write
retention: 120 days

This looked like an interesting by-product of the Frog MailToNews
mail...@frogadmin.yi.org
mail2new...@frogadmin.yi.org
(M2news allows to write to 100.000+ NG)

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FILTERING RULES:
__________________
My objective is to
increase the signal/noise ratio
with a workload sustainable for me
signal:
the technical information
(questions, answers, discussions, announces...)
noise:
flame wars
bashing of software or services
known sources of disinformation
floods
trolls
spam
workload:
I do have a life
increase S/N ratio:
I neither expect to
get a 100% "clean" apas
never eliminate a "valuable" post
_________________
I use all filtering techniques I have at hand, to get to my objective.
I don't care publishing the technical details of the rules.
But it is no mystery that
I filter on both
message headers
(Subject, Author, References, Messager-ID, Newsgroups...)
message body
I try to remove all posts in replies to trolls, or quoting trolls
Banned: Bosc. Cham. Sec.Be. Pang. Burn. Catd. Aver. Evi.El. Bl.J.

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PERFORMANCE:
2002/10/15: 51 posts
2002/10/16: 63 posts
2002/10/17: 39 posts
2002/10/18: 30 posts
2002/10/19: 30 posts
2002/10/20: 25 posts
as compared to the hundreds messages on an unfiltered server

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And I got 2 COMPETITORS
(different machine, different operator, different OS/software,
different rules, different objective)

FRELL
server name: frell.eu.org
port: 119 (standard) or 563 (SSL via STARTTLS and NNTPS)
user: (none)
password: (none)
newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
alt.anonymous.messages
alt.test
access: read
retention: ?? days

BANANA/ZAX (no-flood, but troll-friendly)

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Also Related:
WebToNews:
http://frogadmin.yi.org/cgi-bin/dnewsweb.exe
Frog's Support for News
http://frogadmin.yi.org/News/

Enjoy


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Anonymous Sender

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Mar 18, 2004, 1:14:45 PM3/18/04
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[snip]
>
>Let's hope that Frog manages to stay up and running. It's
>one of very few remailers which allows custom from headers,
>has relatively short latency and is up and running 24 and 7
>with very few exceptions. It appears that a group of
>undercover agents are working tirelessly to post smears
>about the Frog remailer and to try to interfere with its
>operation. All I know is that Frog is one of very few who
>carry the mail and get the job done day after day. I wish
>there were others which worked as well.

It is not beyond the undercover frog to interfere in their operation. A
remop who begs and spams as hard as frog does to have people use his
remailer is reason enough to avoid it like the plague, if you value your
anonymity. Besides, frog is a known troll hole for abusers, and that gives
all remailers a bad reputation. Stop using frog.


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