Chaining through Mass Remailers
Stealt...@olsusa.com
Seems worth a few tests for repeatability. This one is going through
15 remailers listed below sent at 17:27 GMT
arick
austria
dizum
eelbash
freezone
green
hyper2
noisebox
randseed
shinn
xganon
arick
austria
dizum
bilgates
eelbash
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The idea of chaining through mass remailers is certainly not an
impossibility. In fact, if all the remailers have reliable stats, one
should EXPECT that the message would get through. I know it doesn't
always work out so perfectly in the real world. But as you have proven
here, and on several other occasions, just as I have, chaining through
15 remailers, and sometimes even more, is entirely possible.
When I first posted the '15 remailer' thread, other were obviously
quite skeptical of it, making subtle, or not so subtle, jokes as to
the validity of the nature of the post. I would have been skeptical
too if I had not done it so many times in the past.
Stealt...@olsusa.com
(Lucifer) wrote:
+I was skeptical whether it would work at all.
+It obviously does.
+
+But the posters who made jokes about your claims did so primarily
because you said you got it through in 90 minutes.
+
+My test message took 36 hours.
+
+The exercise is worthwhile, anyway; people at high risk *can* use
long chains.
I can't explain the 90 minute thing. But I believe Ralph Hilton did
achieve the same result also, one time. Someone had asked if
i was *sure* the message really went through 15 remailers. All I
can say is that I watched each stage of the message being created,
all 15. So yes, it definitely was correct. As you know, this was
Cpunk. The final message size, if I remember correctly, was
around 142k or something like that. If you attempt a chain through
20, the final message will be at least 700k or better. That's a BIG
message. And that in itself (if using Cpunk) is the biggest
obstacle in chaining through 20, as not all remailers (perhaps
some of the initial ones in the chain) can handle the sheer bytes.
By the way, as you've seen, the '20 remailer' message never
arrived. :-)
Ralph Hilton
(Lucifer) wrote:
>I was skeptical whether it would work at all.
>It obviously does.
>
>But the posters who made jokes about your claims did so primarily because you said you got it through in 90 minutes.
>
>My test message took 36 hours.
>
>The exercise is worthwhile, anyway; people at high risk *can* use long chains.
My record so far is 96 mins from 16 attempts. (15 remailers, mixmaster using
auto selection)
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Ralph Hilton
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