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Anonymous  
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 4:46 pm
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
From: Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:46:17 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 4:46 pm
Subject: Ping Richard
Hey Richard:

        I don't want to sound like an ingrate, but are there any nym
servers functioning anymore that are compatable with QS 1.2.7.2
or that can be hand rolled in the typical way and operate
normally, the way that I am use to?  This mixnym.net thing is a
real pain in the ass the way its hardwired, no clear way to do
the config  message, the aam retrieval software loosly
associated with it doesn't work right, no way to set up the esub
in one step, instructions seem to require two config attempts to
do that, the software to do that doesn't work the way the  
instructions say it should.  The whole thing seems to be some
half-baked bloated cumbersome thing that seems to force one to
use gnpg instead of pgp, and I don't want to change to that, I
use 6.5.8ckt 09 and that's what I want to use, period..  I have
no idea why all of these useless changes have been made but they
render the thing unnecessairily vague, cumbersome, unreliable
and useless to me.  Did I mention that it is a real pain in the
ass?  The whole thing seems to be a lot of fixes to something
that was not broken, now its useless. It's got me so pissed off
I can hardly see straight, what a waste of time its been,
Christ. Again, are there any normal nym servers functioning out
there?  Thanks.


 
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Dave U. Random  
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 6:37 pm
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From: Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:37:35 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard

> Hey Richard:

<snip>

> the software to do that doesn't work the way the
> instructions say it should.

  All the software I have tried works perfectly.

 
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 6:50 pm
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From: Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:49:39 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard

  If you insist on continuing to drive an Edsel (pgp 6.5.8ckt 09),
then don't complain about your refusal to drive a free Ferrari
(GnuPG).  hSub has not replaced eSub.  It is a new system that
works quite well in place of eSub.

  I would give you the instructions on how to set up hSub, but you
have already said that you are determined to stubbornly drive your
Edsel.


 
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 7:48 pm
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From: Anonymous <anonym...@hoi-polloi.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 23:48:54 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard

  If you insist on continuing to drive an Edsel (pgp 6.5.8ckt 09),
then don't complain about your refusal to drive a free Ferrari
(GnuPG).  hSub has not replaced eSub.  It is a new system that
works quite well in place of eSub.

 
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 7:49 pm
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From: "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmas...@remailer.privacy.at>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:48:59 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard

In article <8915a24cc295ca1d909d3e129a42e...@remailer.paranoici.org>

Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>Again, are there any normal nym servers functioning out there?

nymph.paranoici.org

 
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 9:37 pm
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From: Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:37:52 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 9:37 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <8915a24cc295ca1d909d3e129a42e...@remailer.paranoici.org>

Frog, will you shut the fuck up!  Your day ended long ago.

 
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 More options Sep 27 2012, 4:30 am
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From: Zax <ad...@mixmin.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:30:11 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Sep 27 2012 4:30 am
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
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Hash: SHA256

On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:46:17 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous wrote in
Message-Id: <8915a24cc295ca1d909d3e129a42ebdc@remailer.paranoici.org>:

>    I don't want to sound like an ingrate, but are there any nym
> servers functioning anymore that are compatable with QS 1.2.7.2
> or that can be hand rolled in the typical way and operate
> normally, the way that I am use to?

nymph.paranoici.org or nym.mixmin.net?  Both are traditional nymservers.

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 More options Sep 27 2012, 3:50 pm
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From: Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:50:47 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Thurs, Sep 27 2012 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard

> >     I don't want to sound like an ingrate, but are there any nym
> > servers functioning anymore that are compatable with QS 1.2.7.2
> > or that can be hand rolled in the typical way and operate
> > normally, the way that I am use to?
> nymph.paranoici.org or nym.mixmin.net?  Both are traditional nymservers.

  If he can't figure out how to set up mixnym.net hsub, he is going
to end up killing himself trying to setup an esub.

 
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 More options Sep 27 2012, 5:41 pm
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From: Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:41:16 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Thurs, Sep 27 2012 5:41 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard

  This whiner was in here with this same thing a few months back.

 
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 More options Sep 28 2012, 2:52 am
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From: Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:52:52 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2012 2:52 am
Subject: Re: Ping Richard

>> >     I don't want to sound like an ingrate, but are there any nym
>> > servers functioning anymore that are compatable with QS 1.2.7.2
>> > or that can be hand rolled in the typical way and operate
>> > normally, the way that I am use to?

>> nymph.paranoici.org or nym.mixmin.net?  Both are traditional nymservers.

>  If he can't figure out how to set up mixnym.net hsub, he is going
>to end up killing himself trying to setup an esub.

It's all about the right tool: Omnimix makes it very easy.

 
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Fritz Wuehler  
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 More options Sep 28 2012, 11:58 am
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From: Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-201209.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:58:11 +0200
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2012 11:58 am
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
Hi Zax do I need to put

::
Encrypted: PGP

on a config request after I do the pgp -seat or do I just send the thing
encrypted to your nymserver with the usual ------BEGIN PGP header thanks.


 
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 More options Sep 28 2012, 10:38 pm
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From: Anonymous <anonym...@foto.ro1.torservers.net>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 05:38:24 +0300 (EEST)
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2012 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <0a68b3baa7aa6ae8abb5604416b28...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>

Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-201209.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:

> Hi Zax do I need to put

> ::
> Encrypted: PGP

> on a config request after I do the pgp -seat or do I just send the thing
> encrypted to your nymserver with the usual ------BEGIN PGP header thanks.

I don't know why you were worried about sounding like an ingrate,
'cause you should just accept who you are and learn to live with
it. I suppose if fags can do it, you can to. Or you could practice
using sneaker net, which still works wonders and has about the same
level of performance.  Just remember to use a sponge and not your
tongue for sticking the stamp.

 
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 More options Sep 30 2012, 12:56 pm
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From: Anonymous <nob...@slug.slugish.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:55:54 -0400 (EDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <1dfeced4574e8e997ac4679afda7ec2b@anonymitaet-im-
inter.net>
Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:

If there was a similar post previously, it was not me, I have
only just returned to this group after some years off, so am
somewhat rusty.

 
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 More options Sep 30 2012, 2:53 pm
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From: Anonymous <anonym...@foto.ro1.torservers.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:53:14 +0300 (EEST)
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <5cf990736da7736d04ff387740d128f3@anonymitaet-im-
inter.net>
Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:

> > >     I don't want to sound like an ingrate, but are there any nym
> > > servers functioning anymore that are compatable with QS 1.2.7.2
> > > or that can be hand rolled in the typical way and operate
> > > normally, the way that I am use to?

> > nymph.paranoici.org or nym.mixmin.net?  Both are traditional nymservers.

>   If he can't figure out how to set up mixnym.net hsub, he is going
> to end up killing himself trying to setup an esub.

As  I said in a previous response above, I did not appreciate
that esub and hsub were different.  Once irritation and
frustration set in and take a firm hold, the most obvious of
contrasts can be overlooked.

 
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 More options Sep 30 2012, 2:55 pm
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From: Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-201209.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:52:47 +0200
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <b95276591d702472c747cade272f01f2@anonymitaet-im-
inter.net>
Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:

I am not frog, altough I do remember the long ongoing
controversy years ago.

 
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 More options Sep 30 2012, 3:50 pm
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From: Zax <ad...@mixmin.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 19:50:49 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
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Hash: SHA256

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:53:14 +0300 (EEST), Anonymous wrote in
Message-Id: <e95cd73db65f0c66044dbfec87f2d00f@foto.ro1.torservers.net>:

> As  I said in a previous response above, I did not appreciate
> that esub and hsub were different.  Once irritation and
> frustration set in and take a firm hold, the most obvious of
> contrasts can be overlooked.

They aren't really that different, both are methods of encoding the
Subject header so that only the owner knows which are their messages.

Good luck getting your Nym up and running whichever solution you choose
to go with.  Feel free to ask for help if it's not working out.

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 More options Sep 30 2012, 4:21 pm
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From: Anonymous <anonym...@hoi-polloi.org>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:21:42 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <61b709b74eff8dbe69f7e958da722...@mail.hoi-polloi.org>

Well, I must admit that in the vortex of my irritation and
fatigue, i did not grasp that esub and hsub were different.  
Perhaps i should go back and re-visit the whole thing, maybe in
a few days.

 
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 More options Sep 30 2012, 5:06 pm
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:06:55 -0400 (EDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <b95276591d702472c747cade272f01f2@anonymitaet-im-
inter.net>
Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:

I am not frog, altough I do remember the long ongoing
controversy years ago.

 
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 More options Sep 30 2012, 5:44 pm
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 00:44:17 +0300 (EEST)
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <61b709b74eff8dbe69f7e958da722...@mail.hoi-polloi.org>

Well, I must admit that in the vortex of my irritation and
fatigue, i did not grasp that esub and hsub were different.  
Perhaps i should go back and re-visit the whole thing, maybe in
a few days.

 
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:07:04 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <slrnk683kj.mf7.ad...@snorky.mixmin.net>

Thanks for the info,

 
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From: Anonymous <nore...@breaka.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:04:27 -0600
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
In article <e59508b02048900a94df4c733fb91...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:

> >> >     I don't want to sound like an ingrate, but are there any nym
> >> > servers functioning anymore that are compatable with QS 1.2.7.2
> >> > or that can be hand rolled in the typical way and operate
> >> > normally, the way that I am use to?

> >> nymph.paranoici.org or nym.mixmin.net?  Both are traditional nymservers.

> >  If he can't figure out how to set up mixnym.net hsub, he is going
> >to end up killing himself trying to setup an esub.

> It's all about the right tool: Omnimix makes it very easy.

If you don't count the learning curve, right? It took Bubba a month
to get out his first remailer message with OM. Does that make it a
good remailer client?

Does a good remailer client use mixmaster 2.9 when mixmaster 3 has
been around for 3 years? Did you know that mix 2.9 uses an openssl
dll from 1999? Does that make a good remailer client?

How about vista/win7 support? People are already using win8. How many
years has that been neglected? Hell, it still defaults to the
\program files\ directory even though it's incompatible! Is that why
you say it's a good remailer client?

OM takes 30 minutes to send a message direct to a remailer! Thirty
minutes of repeated connect attempts. Is that good for a remailer
client? Thirty minutes? How can any user be satisfied with that? HOW
CAN ANY PROGRAMMER BE SATISFIED WITH THAT?

That's some code we'd ought to get a look at :) Of course, we can't.
OM is closed source. Does closed source make a good remailer client?


 
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 More options Oct 2 2012, 3:24 am
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From: Anonymous <anonym...@hoi-polloi.org>
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:24:45 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 2 2012 3:24 am
Subject: Re: Ping Richard

  A liar's list of untenable assertions.

  Though including all necessary components like Tor, Hamster and GPG,
and not having to rely on external tools, OM is set up faster than any
other remailer software.  And there are no OS restrictions.  It works
with all Windows versions starting with XP.

  Preppy, it's not just a good, it's the best remailer client we have!


 
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 More options Oct 2 2012, 7:39 am
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:39:43 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 2 2012 7:39 am
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:04:27 -0600, Anonymous <nore...@breaka.net>
wrote:

Yes, of course, at least for those who can read the instructions and
post log excerpts to get their problems solved.

Learn to ride a bike and you no longer have to walk!

Bubba, who never explained why it took so long (he may have a job!),
also thinks so, as on 01/22/2011 he wrote:

: I could not get JBN to work on a new PC running Windows 7 x64 Home Premium,
: "unable to register an .ocx file" or something like that.  I even tried
: installing it to the root directory, C:\JBN, and I also tried all of the
: downward compatibility settings in the executable properties, but to no
: avail.  I asked about this problem in this group at the time, but no one
: seemed to know of any solution since JBN is long-since abandonware.
:
: So I switched to Omnimix, using my favorite old newsreader to post,
: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 (c)2002, and that setup works flawlessly.
:
: Omnimix is a really versatile program, but as some have mentioned it is not
: open source.  I don't worry about technicalities like that, but rumor has
: it that some people do.  All I know is that it's free and it works great.

And on 05/06/2012 he wrote:

: My advice is to use your favorite news reader/emailer with Omnimix
: to post.  Works like a charm.  No doubt our resident Omnimix-basher
: will pipe in complaining that Omnimix isn't "open source."  Most of
: the programs on my computer aren't open source either.  Is Windows
: or Microsoft Security Essentials open source, for example?
:
: JBN is abandon-ware.  Omnimix is frequently updated and is amazingly
: versatile:  http://www.danner-net.de/om.htm

>Does a good remailer client use mixmaster 2.9 when mixmaster 3 has
>been around for 3 years? Did you know that mix 2.9 uses an openssl
>dll from 1999? Does that make a good remailer client?

Does that matter with mixmaster and that openssl dll being used for
nothing but packet creation?  You don't know that omnimix uses the
latest openssl 1.0.1 version for ssl/tls connections, do you?

>How about vista/win7 support? People are already using win8. How many
>years has that been neglected?

Not by omnimix.  In Bubba's "took me a month" article, which you
mentioned above, you also read about him successfully running omnimix
on windows 7 x64 home premium.  And I saw it working perfectly with
windows xp, vista and 7, 32 as well as 64 bit, but didn't try windows
8 yet.  So don't spread that incompatibility humbug.

> Hell, it still defaults to the
>\program files\ directory even though it's incompatible! Is that why
>you say it's a good remailer client?

Incompatibility?  Here it works from wherever you put it.  Omnimix
also was the first fully portable remailer client, leaving no traces
on your host system.

>OM takes 30 minutes to send a message direct to a remailer! Thirty
>minutes of repeated connect attempts. Is that good for a remailer
>client? Thirty minutes? How can any user be satisfied with that? HOW
>CAN ANY PROGRAMMER BE SATISFIED WITH THAT?

Sending through tor usually takes about 45 seconds per packet, which
means less than 6 minutes for a message in 7 copies (about 90 seconds
for message conversion and getting mx server data, followed by 4
minutes for uploading data).

And you must not forget, that it saves you a lot of time during
message creation when using a mail or news client with all the
advantages you're accustomed to (no references header copying, no
message format restrictions, which means full mime support,
attachments, html encoding), compared with the copy & paste sessions
you seem to recommend.  Can't speak for the programmer, but I'm
satisfied with that.

>That's some code we'd ought to get a look at :) Of course, we can't.
>OM is closed source. Does closed source make a good remailer client?

Mixmaster, the part that creates your packets and thereby makes you
anonymous, is open source.  You've read the code or even complied it?

 
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 More options Oct 2 2012, 1:22 pm
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From: Anonymous <anonym...@hoi-polloi.org>
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:22:28 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 2 2012 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
[snip]

So did someone send Bubba his OM Decoder Ring?

> And on 05/06/2012 he wrote:

> : My advice is to use your favorite news reader/emailer with Omnimix
> : to post.  Works like a charm.  No doubt our resident Omnimix-basher
> : will pipe in complaining that Omnimix isn't "open source."  Most of
> : the programs on my computer aren't open source either.  Is Windows
> : or Microsoft Security Essentials open source, for example?

Clearly Bubba is none to smart in logic as well as security-ware.
Windows and MSE are two of the most scrutinized and widely used
programs by many of the best developers around, not to mention the
fact that Microsoft would be held accountable and suffer immensely
if its product were found to be back-doored and the favorite
spyware of MIB.

And since you too are obviously not the sharpest of tools in the
shed, as shown by your lack of distinction in these two scenarios
and ignorance in using a pitifully poor example to support your
lost cause, well I am now wondering why I should bother responding
to such a looser.

Perhaps I do it in hopes of helping those who are less discerning
and better intentioned than a bloke like you.

[snip]


 
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 More options Oct 4 2012, 9:14 pm
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From: Cloaked <cloa...@nym.mixmin.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 02:14:53 +0100 (BST)
Local: Thurs, Oct 4 2012 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: Ping Richard
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On 9/26/2012 1:46 PM, Anonymous wrote:> Hey Richard:

After you get your nym setup with nymph.paranoici.org or nym.mixmin.net send
me an email and I'll try to walk you through the steps of setting up ESUB
using QS 1.2.7.

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