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Cloaked

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Jan 1, 2010, 11:08:21 PM1/1/10
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What is the significance of the text below? These messages are generated in
alt.anonymous.messages. How are they generated?

IKOLE OKCLM JOEGE NJHDJ EIJFL BKNFP ABGGI EKOPB IAGBD GNJHO NPPKH LOLMP
KHIIL BBGBD DFJIL GHCKH AHILP JNMOL IKLBE HBCIH GDNNK FNECB EKGAH PDBMH
LLPMB FNJPE BEMBH FOHDD CLPOD GDOAJ HDKGL OJGGB EHHGE NDBAN MAEBO IKANI
CJJIJ AAIHI FJIOK JEHBA DGGGI JFNKG COFEK HDEMG MODBM CMCLL KJMED JGGAA
MIHKK FHBJN FNAAP CFDOE DAFNB EGMFP BCDAC LFFPP ICGCM ODMDB HCPHB BELIF
BOFAD HCJKL PKOCA HNAGI CBOGE KOLMH OCOLL LBHDE MGCJA BAJBG PKFLM EGAAK
BFIPH DPONI HEJEG EJCFB LFCFO BCFHM IBKKD FDGOO NHCFJ PAHBB ABNLE BGDOJ
JKDBK ABNPH AJCIL EFJLF KEECF MPAKL JBJGN KALMJ IAHOH BMGHM AAIFA CNLCD
KLMML DBEGF MEBMP BCDOK OGFGH OIHFO OFEOL ACGAL NAOJ:

Anonymous

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:17:25 AM1/2/10
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> What is the significance of the text below? These messages are generated in
> alt.anonymous.messages. How are they generated?

> KLMML DBEGF MEBMP BCDOK OGFGH OIHFO OFEOL ACGAL NAOJ:

It looks like the old, but unbreakable, 5 letter OTP 'One-time_pad'
encryption. See the link brlow for a good explanation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad


Anonymous

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:35:32 AM1/2/10
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Honestly, that could have been produced by any cipher algorithm. The output
has just been arranged into five letter groups to make cracking it more
difficult. I also wouldn't be surprised to find that a number of nulls
have been added to make cracking it even more difficult.

Cloaked

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:39:49 PM1/2/10
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"Anonymous" <Anon...@domain.invalid> wrote in message
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Thanks for the link above. Very good reading.

George Orwell

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Jan 2, 2010, 2:52:26 PM1/2/10
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Yea, it would be tuff to get all those spaces out of there!


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Anonymous

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:27:45 PM1/3/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>What is the significance of the text below? These messages are generated in
>>alt.anonymous.messages. How are they generated?
>>KLMML DBEGF MEBMP BCDOK OGFGH OIHFO OFEOL ACGAL NAOJ:
>>
>> It looks like the old, but unbreakable, 5 letter OTP 'One-time_pad'
>>encryption. See the link brlow for a good explanation.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
>>
>>Honestly, that could have been produced by any cipher algorithm. The output
>>has just been arranged into five letter groups to make cracking it more
>>difficult. I also wouldn't be surprised to find that a number of nulls
>>have been added to make cracking it even more difficult.
>
> Yea, it would be tuff to get all those spaces out of there!

Ok smartass, which character is the null?

Is there a different null used say every x lines?

Better yet, how about you go ahead and crack it and post the cleartext?


... Not holding my breath waiting.

Anonymous

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:04:54 PM1/3/10
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>>> Honestly, that could have been produced by any cipher algorithm. The output
>>> has just been arranged into five letter groups to make cracking it more
>>> difficult. I also wouldn't be surprised to find that a number of nulls
>>> have been added to make cracking it even more difficult.
>> Yea, it would be tuff to get all those spaces out of there!
> Ok smartass, which character is the null?
> Is there a different null used say every x lines?

Eh? Last time I checked all my nulls looked the same... And besides
that there are better ways to improve from electronic codebook.

> Better yet, how about you go ahead and crack it and post the cleartext?

Why bother cracking it? It could be anything behind the fancy base-16
encoding, so why shouldn't there be some proper encryption to it?

Frank Merlott

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:46:02 PM1/3/10
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I also think it is being encrypted with the one-time pad (OTP),
also called Vernam-cipher or the perfect cipher.

You can download the freeware CT-46 OTP tool to perform one-time pad
encryption. It uses the CT-46 conversion table to convert text into
digits.


Download freeware CT-46 OTP tool (scroll down!):

http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/onetimepad.htm

The screen shots look very much like the messages being posted.


--
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Anonymous

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:50:13 AM1/4/10
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Nice link and freeware!


Anonymous Remailer (austria)

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Jan 6, 2010, 5:31:21 PM1/6/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>What is the significance of the text below? These messages are generated in
>>alt.anonymous.messages. How are they generated?
>>KLMML DBEGF MEBMP BCDOK OGFGH OIHFO OFEOL ACGAL NAOJ:
>>
>> It looks like the old, but unbreakable, 5 letter OTP 'One-time_pad'
>>encryption. See the link brlow for a good explanation.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
>>
>>Honestly, that could have been produced by any cipher algorithm. The output
>>has just been arranged into five letter groups to make cracking it more
>>difficult. I also wouldn't be surprised to find that a number of nulls
>>have been added to make cracking it even more difficult.
>
> Yea, it would be tuff to get all those spaces out of there!

yes, it would. especially considering you don't know how long the lines
need to be in order to be able to decrypt them. you cannot assume that
line breaks in the cipher are exactly as shown, it may easily have been
reformatted for transport, insert the line break at the wrong place and
you'll never read the message.

then there is a good question of null characters. suppose that it uses a
different null every x characters? Unless you know the pattern for
changing the null, cracking it will be uber difficult.

Anonymous

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:13:35 PM1/8/10
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I am not sure how others are doing it. But although we break up
the data for looks, it is always rejoined (spaces taken out) before
decryption. The only reason for the spaces/5 number/letter blocks is
for an agent to be able to more easily keep track of the data during
manual decryption.


Anonymous Remailer (austria)

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Jan 8, 2010, 10:20:31 PM1/8/10
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suppose somebody implemented their encryption algo to require input
formatted with a specific line length? And there is still the idea of
using null characters and how they are choesn.

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