banana mail2news
Camillas tampon
Camillas tampon
>tryin' the dingo thing
It didn't work. How do you get dingo to post through
the banana mail2news instead of dizum?
Zax
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On 28 Feb 2005 05:24:00 -0000, Camillas tampon wrote in
Message-Id: <9VGHLBXZ...@anonymous.poster>:
> It didn't work. How do you get dingo to post through
> the banana mail2news instead of dizum?
You're posting anonymously, but your posts have no hashcash header. The
messages probably arrive at Banana from Dingo, but get dropped for
having no hashcash token.
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uid Admin <admin.bananasplit.info>
Anonymous via Panta Rhei
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>On 28 Feb 2005 05:24:00 -0000, Camillas tampon wrote in
>Message-Id: <9VGHLBXZ...@anonymous.poster>:
>
>> It didn't work. How do you get dingo to post through
>> the banana mail2news instead of dizum?
>
>You're posting anonymously, but your posts have no hashcash header. The
>messages probably arrive at Banana from Dingo, but get dropped for
>having no hashcash token.
perhaps Dingo is stripping hashcash tokens on message headers?
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This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified. You need a valid hashcash token to post to groups other
than alt.test and alt.anonymous.messages. Visit www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org
for abuse and hashcash info.
Dingo Admin
On 1 Mar 2005, Anonymous via Panta Rhei <anon...@panta-rhei.dyndns.org>
wrote:
>In article <cvuqbv$tq3$1...@snorky.bananasplit.info>, Zax wrote:
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>>On 28 Feb 2005 05:24:00 -0000, Camillas tampon wrote in
>>Message-Id: <9VGHLBXZ...@anonymous.poster>:
>>
>>> It didn't work. How do you get dingo to post through
>>> the banana mail2news instead of dizum?
>>
>>You're posting anonymously, but your posts have no hashcash header. The
>>messages probably arrive at Banana from Dingo, but get dropped for
>>having no hashcash token.
>
>perhaps Dingo is stripping hashcash tokens on message headers?
Nope.
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>On 28 Feb 2005 05:24:00 -0000, Camillas tampon wrote in
>Message-Id: <9VGHLBXZ...@anonymous.poster>:
>
>> It didn't work. How do you get dingo to post through
>> the banana mail2news instead of dizum?
>
>You're posting anonymously, but your posts have no hashcash header. The
>messages probably arrive at Banana from Dingo, but get dropped for
>having no hashcash token.
That's not so. You didn't read the headers of my first post.
Message-ID: <3JK6XT0Q3841...@anonymous.poster>
From: Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Camillas tampon)
Subject: banana mail2news
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
X-Hashcash: 0:050227:banana:c3b21066166ad8e5
I don't understand this anyway. If dingo has the remailer
configured to post through banana, then how did it end up
going through dizum?
If dingo sends to both then I have no way of choosing
banana and thus it can only be used for duplicate
posts which dizum having posted already rejects,
is that correct?
How else can I post through banana with JBN2 without
using mixmaster?
Zax
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On 3 Mar 2005 11:05:04 -0000, Camillas tampon wrote in
Message-Id: <LJE7QWLH3841...@reece.net.au>:
> That's not so. You didn't read the headers of my first post.
My apologies, I must have missed it.
> If dingo sends to both then I have no way of choosing
> banana and thus it can only be used for duplicate
> posts which dizum having posted already rejects,
> is that correct?
If Dingo sends to both of them, then they will post post the message to
Usenet. Because they will both have the same Message-ID, only one or
the other will show on each news server, depending on which gets there
first. The second will be treated as a duplicate because the server
already has that Message-ID.
> How else can I post through banana with JBN2 without
> using mixmaster?
If you don't want to use Mixmaster, you can just send an Email to the
Mail2News Gateway, with a Newsgroups header in it. Bear in mind that
by doing this you forfeit the anonymising features that Mixmaster
provides.
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Anonymous
> tryin' the dingo thing
>
Cashing in.
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| | References: <3JK6XT0Q3841...@anonymous.poster>
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| |On 27 Feb 2005, Camillas tampon wrote:
| | > tryin' the dingo thing
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Ace
Camillas tampon <thra...@reece.net.au> wrote:
>
I think that problem here is with Dingo and not the banana
m2n. I believe that Dingo is passing thru the hashcash
header but banana is added on to the string of m2n
gateways that Dingo sends to. Therefore, if dizum is
part of the string and disseminates more quickly, then
banana is preempted.
The question for Dingo admin is, can the remailer be
configured such that if the banana hashcash token is
present in the header then the post will be sent to
banana m2n ONLY?
Camillas tampon
>
>>How else can I post through banana with JBN2 without
>>using mixmaster?
>>
>
><BS1TNDOR3841...@anonymous.poster>
When I click on this it opens in the address field to send
an e-mail.
Ace
Dingo Admin <dingo...@dingoremailer.com> wrote:
>
>No. Neither Banana or Panta is in the default list of M2N servers. The
>list is:
>mail...@anon.lcs.mit.edu,mail...@dizum.com,mail...@freedom.gmsociety.
>org,mail...@news.gradwell.net
>
>This is where your message will go if you use ANON-POST-TO: or POST:
>directive.
>
>>The question for Dingo admin is, can the remailer be
>>configured such that if the banana hashcash token is
>>present in the header then the post will be sent to
>>banana m2n ONLY?
>
>That is not a remailer issue. If you want to send to Banana, address your
>message to Banana. Same thing for Panta.
>
>I do not include any hashcash M2N servers in my default list of M2Ns. They
>must be specifically chosen by the user.
>
>Dingo Admin
>dingo...@dingoremailer.com
>
Since you use the x-no-archive header I cannot search for the
message, but I definitely recall a message from you several
days ago in which you said that - in reply to a query - that
you had added mail2news...@bananasplit.info
to your M2N servers list and that you would pass thru the
hashcash header. Was that post a forgery?
-----------------------
Here's a copy of the article to which you - or a forger -
responded.
From: buz
Subject:Is Dingo Admin Around?
Newsgroups:alt.privacy.anon-server
Date :2005-02-20
**This was posted a few days ago. If Dingo Admin
responded, I did not see it.**
I was wondering whether Dingo could support the banana hashcash
mail2news gateway as part of your anon-post-to functionality?
Since dizum gateway is sometimes down and the other gateways
work sporadically at best, this addition of another gateway would
be helpful. If you would add the following to your string and allow
the hashcash header to be passed on, that should do it.
Thanks for your fine service.
Zax
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On 5 Mar 2005 19:25:29 -0000, Dingo Admin wrote in
Message-Id: <LBPI5B3K38416.5593634259@anonymous.poster>:
> The are not part of the list of M2N servers that are used when Dingo
> recieves a Post or Anon-Post-To directive.
>
> If you want to use Banana or Panta M2N, you have to address the message to
> them specifically. If you send a POST: message, it will not be directed to
> Banana or Panta.
Excellent. To direct posts by default to a Hashcash gateway would be
pointless. It would hit the gateways with a load of posts they would
reject and do nothing to benefit the user. The decision to use a
Hashcash gateway should rest entirely with the user and never be a
default option.
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Camillas tampon
>On 5 Mar 2005, a...@xxx.ooo (Ace) wrote:
>>Dingo Admin <dingo...@dingoremailer.com> wrote:
>>
>>>No. Neither Banana or Panta is in the default list of M2N servers. The
>>>list is:
>>>mail...@anon.lcs.mit.edu,mail...@dizum.com,mail...@freedom.gmsociety.
>>>org,mail...@news.gradwell.net
>>>
>>>This is where your message will go if you use ANON-POST-TO: or POST:
>>>directive.
>>>
>>>>The question for Dingo admin is, can the remailer be
>>>>configured such that if the banana hashcash token is
>>>>present in the header then the post will be sent to
>>>>banana m2n ONLY?
>>>
>>>That is not a remailer issue. If you want to send to Banana, address your
>>>message to Banana. Same thing for Panta.
>>>
>>>I do not include any hashcash M2N servers in my default list of M2Ns. They
>>>must be specifically chosen by the user.
>>>
>>>Dingo Admin
>>>dingo...@dingoremailer.com
>>>
>>
>>Since you use the x-no-archive header I cannot search for the
>>message, but I definitely recall a message from you several
>>days ago in which you said that - in reply to a query - that
>>you had added mail2news...@bananasplit.info
>>to your M2N servers list and that you would pass thru the
>>hashcash header. Was that post a forgery?
>>
>
>
>Banana and Panta M2N servers are in my whitelist. Even though Dingo is
>middle, messages addressed to either of the above hashcash M2N servers will
>go through. The hashcash header will not be stripped.
>
>The are not part of the list of M2N servers that are used when Dingo
>recieves a Post or Anon-Post-To directive.
>
>If you want to use Banana or Panta M2N, you have to address the message to
>them specifically. If you send a POST: message, it will not be directed to
>Banana or Panta.
>
>
>Dingo Admin
>dingo...@dingoremailer.com
OK, I am sending this post to mail2news...@bananasplit.info
instead of dizum and including a newly minted hashcash token.
If you can read this message then check the headers for the banana
mail2news gateway.
I had thought this was not possible after reading the description
offered by the banana operator. I do not understand why remailer
ops go out of their way to make something simple seem so difficult.
Then they complain about lack of use.
Can any remailer be used to post through banana or do the others
strip the hashcash header out?
Screen shot tutorials are wonderful; don't be shy about creating them.
Zax
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On 6 Mar 2005 06:03:45 -0000, Camillas tampon wrote in
Message-Id: <5M65L9HQ3841...@anonymous.poster>:
> If you can read this message then check the headers for the banana
> mail2news gateway.
Looks good.
> I had thought this was not possible after reading the description
> offered by the banana operator. I do not understand why remailer
> ops go out of their way to make something simple seem so difficult.
By all means, please suggest how I can make the instructions clearer.
Sometimes a page like that seems good to those who already knew how to
do something, but makes no sense to those who did not. Your input would
be appreciated.
> Then they complain about lack of use.
Never. I will sleep just as soundly at night if nobody uses it. :)
> Can any remailer be used to post through banana or do the others
> strip the hashcash header out?
I'm not aware of any that strip the Hashcash header.
> Screen shot tutorials are wonderful; don't be shy about creating them.
Screenshots of what? JBN, QS and Mixmaster all have different
interfaces, so I'd have to create shots of each of them. My usual
philosophy is to keep all my webpages as text-only, but if you supply
some screenshots, I'll include them as hyperlinks.
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