OT: Red Light Camera
Jim Thompson
http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
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John Woodgate
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Nasty, very nasty indeed.
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Mike
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John Larkin
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>Check this out......
>
>http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Wow, offed an SUV and a PT Cruiser in one whack. Excellent bag.
John
John Larkin
<thegr...@example.com> wrote:
>Check this out......
>
>http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Oh, I forgot to mention: Happy Bastille Day!
John
Roger Gt
"John Larkin" <jjla...@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com>
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: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:23:00 -0700, Jim Thompson
AND an innocent pedestrian!
So did anyone survive?
How many years in Jail did the guy that ran the light get?
John Larkin
Oops, yeah, looks like he didn't get away. Wasn't he crossing against
the light too?
John
Roger Gt
"John Larkin" <jjla...@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com>
wrote in message
: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:56:56 GMT, "Roger Gt" <n...@here.net>
That's a TICKET, not a death penalty!
I know of no place that permits harvesting pedestrians!
Roger Gt
"John Larkin" <jjla...@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com>
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: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:56:56 GMT, "Roger Gt" <n...@here.net>
He may have been in the intersection legally, if he entered on a
green! Everyone must yield until he crosses! You aren't supposed
to hit anyone at all!
FrankW
Jim Thompson
The father of my daughter-in-law E-mailed it to me.
His comment was "I have a PT Cruiser I'd like to get rid of also" ;-)
Oppie
the pedestrian in the hollow and didn't completely crush him as it rolled
over. What are the odds? The article listed that he was seriously injured,
hope he survived. My prayers to him and his family.
Oppie
news story posted by FrankW
http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/carcrash01.asp
Richard Henry
"John Woodgate" <j...@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
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> <thegr...@example.com> wrote (in <btjaf05pult465ifunegfif194rkedvtni@
> 4ax.com>) about 'OT: Red Light Camera', on Wed, 14 Jul 2004:
> >Check this out......
> >
> >http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
>
> Nasty, very nasty indeed.
I can't tell from the video what state the lights were in. Was the
pedestrian jaywalking? Did he survive?
Jim Thompson
wrote:
FrankW posted this link...
http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/carcrash01.asp
He was jaywalking. He was "dead at the scene", but was noticed to be
breathing as they were removing the "body". He's reported to be still
in serious condition at Miami (Ohio) Valley Hospital.
Tim Wescott
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:55:37 -0700, "Richard Henry" <rph...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"John Woodgate" <j...@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
>>news:y3epbYBb...@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
>>
>>>I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
>>><thegr...@example.com> wrote (in <btjaf05pult465ifunegfif194rkedvtni@
>>>4ax.com>) about 'OT: Red Light Camera', on Wed, 14 Jul 2004:
>>>
>>>>Check this out......
>>>>
>>>>http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
>>>
>>>Nasty, very nasty indeed.
>>
>>I can't tell from the video what state the lights were in. Was the
>>pedestrian jaywalking? Did he survive?
>>
>>
>
>
> FrankW posted this link...
>
> http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/carcrash01.asp
>
> He was jaywalking. He was "dead at the scene", but was noticed to be
> breathing as they were removing the "body". He's reported to be still
> in serious condition at Miami (Ohio) Valley Hospital.
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Not that there wasn't a _very_ stupid driver involved, which would have
just as likely taken out a legal pedestrian.
A friend of my dad's was a deputy Sheriff when he saw an accident like
this developing (sans pedestrian). He couldn't do anything to prevent
it, but he _could_ stick his mic out the window and key it at the
critical moment. He unkeyed his mic, and the unflappable Clackamas
County Sheriff's dispatcher radioed "would the unit at the scene of the
injury accident please report your ID and location?"
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Jim Thompson
<t...@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
>A friend of my dad's was a deputy Sheriff when he saw an accident like
>this developing (sans pedestrian). He couldn't do anything to prevent
>it, but he _could_ stick his mic out the window and key it at the
>critical moment. He unkeyed his mic, and the unflappable Clackamas
>County Sheriff's dispatcher radioed "would the unit at the scene of the
>injury accident please report your ID and location?"
Some dispatchers are just amazingly calm ;-)
Tim Auton
>Check this out......
>
>http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
Jim, you are one sick fuck.
Tim
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dave vanhorn
Ouch.
I lost my first new car like that.
I was driving through a green, and BANG.
He was in a little pickup, me in a little wagon.
He actually came up on top of my hood, and spun me more than 180
degrees.
Even that didn't stop him, he deflected about 30 degrees to his left
and hit the median. He claimed to be only going 30 mph. :)
The fellow on my left, sitting at the red light, saw the whole thing.
Better yet, he had just left the bar where he and the fellow that hit
me had been!
The spot was a four-way like this, except to my right was not a road,
but a freeway onramp. The guy that hit me was going to the freeway.
User
Its been going around the internet for a while now. I don't buy that the
accident happened in 2004, since the first time I saw the mpeg was last
year!
Blair P. Houghton
>Check this out......
>
>http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
Cool. Got any beheadings you don't want to warn people about?
--Blair
"Jerk."
Clifford Heath
> http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
I've just shown this to the learner driver in this house.
The point being not "don't run red lights", but "don't assume
no-one else will, especially in the first couple of seconds
of the green." The SUV driver was far from blameless here.
They didn't just start off from the green! Trying to judge
the green so you can shoot through is almost as dangerous as
running reds, if you aren't ready to avoid someone who can't
or won't stop.
My neighbour was in the outer lane at a cross-road beside a
women in the inner lane when the light went green. He saw a
dump truck shooting down the hill that obviously wasn't going
to be able to stop, and frantically tried to attract the woman's
attention to stop her. Shedrove forward on the green and was
killed instantly in the collision, orphaning her three children.
Fred Bloggs
The PT Cruiser with a 75yo old lady was running the light, the crossing
SUV had the green- so the pedestrian was crossing against the red
crossing light- but it is also clear the SUV was operated by a mentally
challenged individual exercising no caution- a confluence of
mindlessness all around- every single individual was in the wrong. A lot
of these old people are on serious prescription drugs and their minds
are zeroed- so you really need to watch for them- treat them like a
runaway vehicle with no driver- and avoid going near drug stores- the
damned bastards need to stay home, they have no business going out in
public. There was a time when old meant wisdom, but thanks to modern
medicine this is no longer the case, old now mostly means a worthless
young person who survived to old age and still worthless.
Richard Henry
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>
>
> Roger Gt wrote:
> > "John Larkin" <jjla...@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com>
> > wrote in message
> > news:0eoaf09pm61h1ccp4...@4ax.com...
> > : On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:23:00 -0700, Jim Thompson
> > : <thegr...@example.com> wrote:
> > :
> > : >Check this out......
> > : >
> > : >http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
> > : >
> > : > ...Jim Thompson
> > :
> > : Wow, offed an SUV and a PT Cruiser in one whack. Excellent bag.
> > :
> > : John
> >
> >
> > AND an innocent pedestrian!
> >
> > So did anyone survive?
> > How many years in Jail did the guy that ran the light get?
> >
> >
>
> The PT Cruiser with a 75yo old lady was running the light, the crossing
> SUV had the green- so the pedestrian was crossing against the red
> crossing light- but it is also clear the SUV was operated by a mentally
> challenged individual exercising no caution-
Why is that "clear"?
Jim Thompson
<n...@spam.please.net> wrote:
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
>
>I've just shown this to the learner driver in this house.
>The point being not "don't run red lights", but "don't assume
>no-one else will, especially in the first couple of seconds
>of the green."
Good advice, however....
>The SUV driver was far from blameless here.
>They didn't just start off from the green! Trying to judge
>the green so you can shoot through is almost as dangerous as
>running reds, if you aren't ready to avoid someone who can't
>or won't stop.
The light had been red for 28 seconds, read the FrankW link:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/carcrash01.asp
>
>My neighbour was in the outer lane at a cross-road beside a
>women in the inner lane when the light went green. He saw a
>dump truck shooting down the hill that obviously wasn't going
>to be able to stop, and frantically tried to attract the woman's
>attention to stop her. She drove forward on the green and was
>killed instantly in the collision, orphaning her three children.
John Woodgate
wrote (in <40F693CA...@nospam.com>) about 'OT: Red Light Camera',
on Thu, 15 Jul 2004:
>There was a time when old meant wisdom, but thanks to modern medicine this is no
>longer the case, old now mostly means a worthless young person who survived to
>old age and still worthless.
But will you still think so in 20 years?
Jim Thompson
http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/carcrash01.asp
Says it happened May 23, 2004.
But maybe it's yet another urban legend ;-)
John Fields
<j...@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:
>I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nos...@nospam.com>
>wrote (in <40F693CA...@nospam.com>) about 'OT: Red Light Camera',
>on Thu, 15 Jul 2004:
>>There was a time when old meant wisdom, but thanks to modern medicine this is no
>>longer the case, old now mostly means a worthless young person who survived to
>>old age and still worthless.
>
>But will you still think so in 20 years?
---
Prob'ly not; Pete Townsend's still alive, isn't he?
--
John Fields
John Larkin
<thegr...@example.com> wrote:
>
>The light had been red for 28 seconds, read the FrankW link:
>
>http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/carcrash01.asp
>
Which sort of removes any excuse for the ped to be in the middle of
the street. It almost looks like the SUV would have hit him anyhow.
John
Jim Thompson
If it's not a staged urban legend, it's certainly going to be an
interesting set of law suits ;-)
Jim Thompson
<j...@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:
>I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nos...@nospam.com>
>wrote (in <40F693CA...@nospam.com>) about 'OT: Red Light Camera',
>on Thu, 15 Jul 2004:
>>There was a time when old meant wisdom, but thanks to modern medicine this is no
>>longer the case, old now mostly means a worthless young person who survived to
>>old age and still worthless.
>
>But will you still think so in 20 years?
Surrounded by old folk (my father is almost 86, and most of his
brothers and sisters are still alive) I find mental and physical
capacity to vary highly from individual to individual.
Based on the observations of my limited sample size, it seems to me
that folk who used their minds regularly throughout their lives keep
their mental capacity into old age.
Physically my body is not treating me too nicely, particularly since I
had polio when I was seven, and arthritis is now taking advantage of
my skeletal frailties, but I'll mentally take on a 20-year-old any day
ptaylor
Clackamas county,in Oregon? My G/F works there as a
dispatcher/call-taker. I hear some crazy stories...
Daniel Haude
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:23:00 -0700,
Jim Thompson <thegr...@example.com> wrote
in Msg. <btjaf05pult465ifu...@4ax.com>> ...Jim Thompson
Reminds me of this (Mercedes vs non-jaywalking pedestrian):
http://poetry.rotten.com/redlight/
--Daniel
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Charles Schuler
ab...@mix.com
> Check this out......
> http://www.analog-innovations.com/Musings/RedLightCamera.mpg
Love to but your name servers are MIA this morning......
Billy Y..
Jim Thompson
Must be a CA problem, it's working here in Phoenix.
ab...@mix.com
> Must be a CA problem, it's working here in Phoenix.
Yes it's working again now. Funny how the guy who
caused the crash got the least of it all. Too bad.
Then on the other side of all this we have -
http://www.highwayrobbery.net/
Billy Y..
Jim Thompson
I've never been nabbed by a red-light camera... I'm very punchy about
red lights, having been T-boned twice by red-light runners.
Yet I am absolutely sure that most red-light cameras are timed to make
money, NOT improve safety.
So much so that I've been tempted to add some computer-based red-light
timing equipment to my repertoire and offer my services to lawyers ;-)
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
"Jim Thompson" <thegr...@example.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:25:48 +0000 (UTC), ab...@MIX.COM wrote:
>
> >Jim Thompson <thegr...@example.com> writes:
> >
> >> Must be a CA problem, it's working here in Phoenix.
> >
> >Yes it's working again now. Funny how the guy who
> >caused the crash got the least of it all. Too bad.
> >
> >Then on the other side of all this we have -
> >
> >http://www.highwayrobbery.net/
> >
> >Billy Y..
>
> I've never been nabbed by a red-light camera... I'm very punchy about
> red lights, having been T-boned twice by red-light runners.
>
> Yet I am absolutely sure that most red-light cameras are timed to make
> money, NOT improve safety.
>
> So much so that I've been tempted to add some computer-based red-light
> timing equipment to my repertoire and offer my services to lawyers ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson
> --
The city installed 20 of the 'photo enforced' cameras around the city.
One lady at wotk got a ticket for not making a complete stop at a right
turn, $378.00!
One of the lights is at the intersection at our main campus, and I
notice that the yellos lights seem to be much shorter now. I think the
bastards have made it more difficult to get thru the light changes just
so they will make more money. The city contracts with some company to
do the installation and maintenance, and I think there is a great amount
of incentive to make the system pay. Once residents know about (or get
caught by) the system, the revenues diminish, and then the city has a
problem justifying the system. I believe there should be some kind of
law or court decision that standardizes the parameters that these
systems operate within, and prevents the municipalities from taking
advantage of the unwary drivers.
John G
"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOS...@dslextreme.com>
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understand, the word parameter?
And then make a reasoned case about Standarizing (another big word)
them.
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Wot's Your Real Problem?
Spehro Pefhany
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>Where do you think you could find a lawyer that could spell, let alone
>understand, the word parameter?
>And then make a reasoned case about Standarizing (another big word)
>them.
What are you talking about? Words (both spoken and written) are the
tools of lawyers. A good lawyer is EXTREMELY proficient at using and
abusing words.
Best regards,
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We got another RSW here? I wouldn't dignify this guy's followup with a
reply.
Rich Grise
> problem justifying the system. I believe there should be some kind of
> law or court decision that standardizes the parameters that these
> systems operate within, and prevents the municipalities from taking
> advantage of the unwary drivers.
Well, no, they're taking advantage of people who routinely flout the
law.
I've heard that cops report that, at least officially, they don't mind
when people give away the location(s) of speed trap(s) - their intent,
after all, officially, is to serve public safety, and just knowing
about a speed trap (or thinking there's one) will make people drive
more safely, or at least more slowly.
How stupid/impatient do you have to be to run red lights when there's
big cameras on the post and a sign that says, "Photo-enforced crossing"
or some such? Sheesh!
Cheers!
Rich
ab...@mix.com
> I've heard that cops report that, at least officially, they don't mind
> when people give away the location(s) of speed trap(s) - their intent,
Back when I owned a radio station we used to broadcast the locations,
until the cops got the USA's broadcast licensing agency to make us stop.
The intent here at least in this country is to extract the maximum amount
of money from the drivers, period.
Billy Y..
Jim Thompson
A friend of mine got roughed up by Scottsdale cops for setting out a
real-estate-type sign saying "Speed Radar Ahead" every time he spotted
a radar trap.
He then sued Scottsdale and they settled for $20K, which wasn't too
shabby an amount back in the '70's.
Joe Walters
Jim Thompson <thegr...@example.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:25:48 +0000 (UTC), ab...@MIX.COM wrote:
>
> >Jim Thompson <thegr...@example.com> writes:
> >
> >> Must be a CA problem, it's working here in Phoenix.
> >
> >Yes it's working again now. Funny how the guy who
> >caused the crash got the least of it all. Too bad.
> >
> >Then on the other side of all this we have -
> >
> >http://www.highwayrobbery.net/
> >
> >Billy Y..
>
> I've never been nabbed by a red-light camera... I'm very punchy about
> red lights, having been T-boned twice by red-light runners.
> Yet I am absolutely sure that most red-light cameras are timed to make
> money, NOT improve safety.
>
> So much so that I've been tempted to add some computer-based red-light
> timing equipment to my repertoire and offer my services to lawyers ;-)
> ...Jim Thompson
Don't remember the intersection or even the town (when in doubt, blame
Scottsdale :-), where a guy proved that the yellow lights in the
intersection that nabbed him were N seconds shorter than all other
non-camera intersections. The judge threw out a bunch of tickets, and as
I remember, ordered that the yellow lights in that intersection be set
to the norm for the town. The company that ran the cameras was very
unhappy.
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>
> Don't remember the intersection or even the town (when in doubt, blame
> Scottsdale :-), where a guy proved that the yellow lights in the
> intersection that nabbed him were N seconds shorter than all other
> non-camera intersections. The judge threw out a bunch of tickets, and as
> I remember, ordered that the yellow lights in that intersection be set
> to the norm for the town. The company that ran the cameras was very
> unhappy.
We had that happen right here in the Washington, DC area. They,
Martin-Maretta, had a hole string of traffic lights all with 5 second
yellows, and then the one with the camera had a 4 second yellow.
Makes you feel kinda warm and fuzzy all over. Especially when you
learn that MM sets the yellow light durations, and MM gets over 50% of the
money from each ticket it collects. The various jurisdictions like that
because the cameras are free, and MM does all of the processing. Kind of
a corrupt form of rent.
-Chuck
Jim Thompson
wrote:
>In article <mfgag0d5cpjpjqec9...@4ax.com>,
> Jim Thompson <thegr...@example.com> wrote:
>
[snip]
>> Yet I am absolutely sure that most red-light cameras are timed to make
>> money, NOT improve safety.
>>
>> So much so that I've been tempted to add some computer-based red-light
>> timing equipment to my repertoire and offer my services to lawyers ;-)
>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>Don't remember the intersection or even the town (when in doubt, blame
>Scottsdale :-), where a guy proved that the yellow lights in the
>intersection that nabbed him were N seconds shorter than all other
>non-camera intersections. The judge threw out a bunch of tickets, and as
>I remember, ordered that the yellow lights in that intersection be set
>to the norm for the town. The company that ran the cameras was very
>unhappy.
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>
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I don't think Scottsdale has any red light cameras, just speed
cameras, like Paradise Valley; but Mesa and Phoenix, and I think
Glendale, have red light cameras.
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"
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That's why they named the website (which got snipped from above)
http://www.highwayrobbery.net/.
> -Chuck
Paul Wylie
> I don't think Scottsdale has any red light cameras, just speed
> cameras, like Paradise Valley; but Mesa and Phoenix, and I think
> Glendale, have red light cameras.
Both PV and Scottsdale have red light cameras. PV's got one that's a
combo (red light *and* speed) at the intersection of Tatum and Lincoln. I
work in Scottsdale on the border with PV and have had occasion to drive
through both cities (Scottsdale more than PV).
Scottsdale definitely has a red light camera at the intersection of
Scottsdale Rd. and Thomas. There used to be a red light camera at the
intersection of Scottsdale Rd. and McDowell, but I think it's been moved.
--Paul
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