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Yes, there's SOMETHING out there!

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TheTibetanMonkey

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:59:32 AM12/25/09
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On Dec 25, 6:16 am, "noego" <myd!!!...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote in message
>

> > It is quite remarkable to me how one can disrespect religion and get away
> > with it on these cycling newsgroups. Even though I am an atheist, I like
> > to defend religion because I believe most folks are better off with it
> > than without it.
>
> > In the real world, most cyclists that I have ever met are quite religious.
> > They will even take time out from a tour to attend church on Sunday
> > mornings. Apparently, the kind of cyclists who post to Usenet newsgroups
> > are a special breed.

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>
> > If you are without the faith, there is no help for it, but it behooves you
> > never to denigrate religion. Sometimes I think it is the only thing that
> > saves us from ourselves. We are all of us subject to illusion of one sort
> > or another. Progressive liberal secularism may be the greatest illusion of
> > them all. And it is highly religious as any fool would recognize. All you
> > have done is replaced God with Man. Not a good trade in my opinion.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
> Although I prefer to believe that "there is something out there", I am
> probably also an atheist. I also believe that we are better off with
> religion than without it - as long as the religion is used for doing good.
> There are atheists in many if not most newsgroups. They very ready to accuse
> religious people of a large variety of evils, some true and some not. What
> intrigues me is that they get quite vicious in their attacks, in my opinion
> exhibiting the lack of tolerance they acribe to those who are religious.
> This, of course, is a topic which always starts a good flame war.
>
> When six weeks ago I saw that front of a car coming at me at about 20 miles
> per hour, and I knew I'd be either dead or seriously injured, but got up not
> even feeling the cracked ribs - I thought ever so briefly that there may
> have been "someone looking after me" at that time.
>
> Henry-

You must be some special guy to God because he lets die children and
women to die in wars, automobile accidents, etc. Maybe the fact that
the car was coming so slowly had to do with it. But for me riding on
the road means dealing with cars going over 40miles per hour and I
don't think God can help me with that.

What worries me about God is that people often use him as an excuse
not to do something because everything is "God's will." Besides they
were active supporters of the Iraq war while more often than not are
"happy drivers" (burning gas and terrorizing cyclists). They also
support the war on drugs (the same one overpopulating our prisons and
killing Mexicans), then prosecute prostitution, euthanasia, gays,
DUIs, and DENY CLIMATE CHANGE AND SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE FOR ALL...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_thread/thread/7bd7aca0706fcb0e/3cff35f7526c8fc7?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=single+prayer#3cff35f7526c8fc7

So yes, there's something out there... A LOT OF EVIL. ;)

SEE NO EVIL, HEAR NO EVIL, TALK NO EVIL.


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"The three wise monkeys were Christian"

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whistler

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Dec 25, 2009, 1:07:43 PM12/25/09
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On Dec 24, 3:24 pm, TheTibetanFecesFlingingMonkeyBoy showing-the-path-

to-the-crapper-in-the-jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Notice this is a BIG hypothetical
> I'm just wondering.

> "Nobody can question monkey feces REVOLUTION
> http:/webspammer.com/users/BANANA-DIP

Aw....poor mis-understood MonkeyBoy

TheTibetanMonkey

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Dec 25, 2009, 1:13:15 PM12/25/09
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Oh yes, I'm misundertood by the sheep who can't speak jungle language.

TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

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Dec 25, 2009, 2:29:45 PM12/25/09
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On Dec 25, 1:10 pm, whistler <azwhist...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 24, 3:24 pm, TheTibetanFecesFlingingMonkeyBoy showing-the-path-
>
> to-the-crapper-in-the-jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Notice this is a BIG hypothetical
> > I'm just wondering.
> > "Nobody can question monkey feces REVOLUTION
> > http:/webspammer.com/users/BANANA-DIP
>
> Awwwww....poormis-understood MonkeyBoy

Hey, Big Fish or Little Fish?

I'm so sorry you can't speak jungle language, but it basically means
that your predatory system is doomed by your ignorance...

Conflation of "Survival of the fittest" and morality
Critics of evolution have argued that "survival of the fittest"
provides a justification for behaviour that undermines moral standards
by letting the strong set standards of justice to the detriment of the
weak.[14] However, any use of evolutionary descriptions to set moral
standards would be a naturalistic fallacy (or more specifically the is-
ought problem), as prescriptive moral statements cannot be derived
from purely descriptive premises. Describing how things are does not
imply that things ought to be that way. It is also simplistic to
suggest that "survival of the fittest" implies treating the weak
badly, as good social behaviour - cooperating with others and treating
them well - improves evolutionary fitness.[15][16]

http://www.answers.com/topic/survival-of-the-fittest

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