Why attack God when you can get a Dartboard?
His Majesty Comandante Banana King Of The Apes I
disgraces talked about in Revelations. End is coming soon, so you may
as well have fun!
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"Never assume that the monkey is not serious"
Yap
Why would any one attack a non-existing entity?
What was attacked is the imagination of human twisted brain waves.
Those deformed waves need correction, otherwise the next generation
suffer.
Mavisbeacon
"Yap" <hhya...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 6, 7:07 am, His Majesty Comandante Banana King Of The Apes I
<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's a fun game and you practice for coming wars and many other
> disgraces talked about in Revelations. End is coming soon, so you may
> as well have fun!
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> "Never assume that the monkey is not serious"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution
...Why would any one attack a non-existing entity?
I dunno. Maybe so they could use the non existing entity to blame for
international terrorism and in doing so cease the oiul resources of a
country?
...What was attacked is the imagination of human twisted brain waves.
Those deformed waves need correction, otherwise the next generation
suffer.
And the Us went to war against an IDEA? How come that and how could they?
His Majesty Comandante Banana King Of The Apes I
> alt.religion.christianity.hypocrisy,cut
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> "Yap" <hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote in message
And it wasn't even real. No WMD's and connections between Saddam and
the terrorists.
Just an idea someone had.
Mavisbeacon
"His Majesty Comandante Banana King Of The Apes I"
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And whiule the tiuny minioity of fundamentalist quasi Christians suppoted it
and American Zionists , the Pope the Patriarch and the Archbishop of
Cantebury didn't nor did some Orthodox Jews !
Lee
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavis...@nospam.forme> wrote in message
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Oh hell yeh!, a completely unfounded idea:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4994086014961923306#
Or more recently:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/17/iraq.main/index.html
Mavisbeacon
"Lee" <moo...@127.0.0.1.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> > "Never assume that the monkey is not serious"
>>>
>>> >http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution
>>>
>>> ...Why would any one attack a non-existing entity?
>>>
>>> I dunno. Maybe so they could use the non existing entity to blame for
>>> international terrorism and in doing so cease the oiul resources of a
>>> country?
>>>
>>> ...What was attacked is the imagination of human twisted brain waves.
>>> Those deformed waves need correction, otherwise the next generation
>>> suffer.
>>>
>>> And the Us went to war against an IDEA? How come that and how could
>>> they?
>>
>> And it wasn't even real. No WMD's and connections between Saddam and
>> the terrorists.
>>
>> Just an idea someone had.
>
>
> Oh hell yeh!, a completely unfounded idea:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4994086014961923306#
You are aware Rumsfeld shook Saddams hand knowiong about their use of
chemicalsand when he met Saddam never complained about it?
And that the Regan administration continued to sell weapons to Iraq?
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
The documents included in this briefing book reflect the realpolitik that
determined this country's policies during the years when Iraq was actually
employing chemical weapons. Actual rather than rhetorical opposition to such
use was evidently not perceived to serve U.S. interests; instead, the Reagan
administration did not deviate from its determination that Iraq was to serve
as the instrument to prevent an Iranian victory. Chemical warfare was viewed
as a potentially embarrassing public relations problem that complicated
efforts to provide assistance.
[end quote]
>
> Or more recently:
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/17/iraq.main/index.html
You can't seriously ask people to believe that Saddam made gas and hid it
for FIVE YEARS after the US invaded took over the country and scoured it for
two years looking for WMD and found none?
You do realise that the US had thousands of inspections all over Iraq and
admitted ther were NO WMD?
Now put it this way, if a nuke was detonated in Iraq you expect that people
should think it was one Saddam made and was hidden for ten years or that it
is more likely a Russian Chinese Iranians etc. or even a US nuke brought
into Iraq AFTER the US occupation?
You can't seriously believe WMD were more than an idea when inspectors were
in Iraq right through the nineties and fount scant evidence of any WMD after
1990 can you?
Even when Bush admitted there weren't any?
Lee
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavis...@nospam.forme> wrote in message
Have you ever thought that hundreds of thousands of coalition troops
would not be wasting their time and suffering the extreme discomfort of
dressing up in Noddy suits in the blistering desert heat if they did not
believe that there was some definite risk of being hit by chemical or
biological agents during the invasion of Iraq.
Admittedly all they had to base their fears on was the genocide of 5000+
Marsh Arabs murdered by chemical Ali and possibly hundreds of thousands
of fatalities from chemical warfare during the Iraq/Iran war in the
80's.
Even if no evidence was found of WMD just consider how easy it has
proved for Iran to smuggle arms, explosives and insurgents into Iraq
even at the present day chemicals are being used to attack both civilian
and military personnel the only thing being is that people with the
liberal view point appear to be a lot LOUDER in the media so these
atrocities rather than being reported to the public are apparently swept
under a carpet of silence which is in fact much louder than mere words:
"VBIEDs have used increasingly larger amounts of explosives-from 100
pounds to well over 1,000 pounds. The VBIEDs seen in Operation Enduring
Freedom (OEF) and Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) have included mortar
rounds, artillery rounds, rocket warheads, and improvised explosives.
Additional materials such as shrapnel, flammables, white phosphorus, and
chlorine have been added to cause additional death and injury."
The world press only usually report the use of white phosphorus in
connection with the Israeli army for some reason.
Mavisbeacon
Yes I have. Of course we are not arguing about whether people BELIEVED there
were were WMD but about whether any actual evidence of WMD was there!
You see we happen to be arguing this point in a atheist group and a frequent
thing there is that people who propose something to be true have to provide
evidence of it.
doing otherwise is called shifting the burden!
You are not really going to argue that because a billion Muslims put on
Muslim clothing or a billion christians go to mass that that proves god
exists are you?
All your argumest boils dowbn to is "WELL our tanks are in Iraq so that
means the US Army is in Iraq and that proves they are justified in being
there because they would not be there for no reason at all would they?"
Have you ever heard of circular reasoning?
Do you really think I can go and occupy your house and when you ask why I am
squatting there I can simply say "well I must be here for some reason so you
will have to accepot that!"?
But the first point I raised above is the clincher there is a difference
between BELIEF of the idea of WMD in Iraq and actual evidence of WMD!
That is the central issue here THE IDEA versus the actual thing!
>
> Admittedly all they had to base their fears on was the genocide of 5000+
> Marsh Arabs murdered by chemical Ali
Murdered WHEN? When the US army was about 100 miles away from them and did
NOTHING WHATSOEVER to protect them?
qand after the US occupied Iraq they didn't do muchg for them then either
but DID become pally with the Mhadi Army! Bizzare!
And the chemical attacks talked about in Iraq were NOT the march Arab ones.
Check out your factys! The ones which are constantly get notice are in Iran
or against the Kurds in Iraq (which could also have been by Iran but I doubt
it). Kurdistan is in North Western Iraq. The Marsh Arabs are in the South
East.
>and possibly hundreds of thousands of fatalities from chemical warfare
>during the Iraq/Iran war in the 80's.
Possibly. And Possibly done with precursors supplied to Saddam by the Re4gan
Administration [see above briefing book] and about which the Us saiud
nothing till the horse had bolted?
>
> Even if no evidence was found of WMD just consider how easy it has proved
> for Iran to smuggle arms, explosives and insurgents into Iraq
Which muslim fundamentalists were trying to do constantly under saddam's
rule and meeting with much less success!
In fact the US occupation has facilated these fundies - which Saddam
detested!
and that uis a HUGE
"EVEN IF"
It is the WHOLE BASIS FOR THE INVASION!!!!
> even at the present day chemicals are being used to attack both civilian
> and military personnel the only thing being is that people with the
> liberal view point appear to be a lot LOUDER in the media so these
> atrocities rather than being reported to the public are apparently swept
> under a carpet of silence which is in fact much louder than mere words:
LOL! Chlorine is indeed a dreadfull chemical but notheing like biological
and nerve agents about which Fox News and the like created Mass HYSTERIA!
And we are not arguing about the use of Gas during US occupation. I am happy
to admit it. We are arguing about WHY THE US CLAIMED IRAQ NEEDED TO BE
INVADED!
You have already tried to sweep that under the carpet.
All there was was AN IDEA of WMD and no actual evidence of WMD!
Your argument is a joke!
>
>
> "VBIEDs have used increasingly larger amounts of explosives-from 100
> pounds to well over 1,000 pounds. The VBIEDs seen in Operation Enduring
> Freedom (OEF) and Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) have included mortar
> rounds, artillery rounds, rocket warheads, and improvised explosives.
> Additional materials such as shrapnel, flammables, white phosphorus, and
> chlorine have been added to cause additional death and injury."
>
> Read all:
> http://www.fireengineering.com/index/articles/display/339891/articles/fire-engineering/fire-ems/terrorism/2008/09/vehicle-borne-improvised-explosive-devices-planning-and-response.html
2008 -2009 SEVEN YEARS AFTER the US occupation! Where are the WMD for which
you invaded and which the US said they were certain about and knew where
they were and would show the world???
Do you think we are complete fools?
Ther were a long list of hysterical promised and worrysome threaths oif the
US didn't invade! It turns out it was all a lie!
>
>
> The world press only usually report the use of white phosphorus in
> connection with the Israeli army for some reason.
WRONG! The US used WP in Falluja! BEFORE the Israelis used it in Palestine.
The Us Army themselves published it in a artillery journal and that is how
it became news!
Lee
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavis...@nospam.forme> wrote in message
I know exactly what group this is and just for the record have not
subscribed to any mythology for well over 40 years, hell I even walk
under ladders and put up umberellas in the house.
Phosphorus has been used as far back as WW2 or probably before in
tracers and other pyrotechnic ammunition it is only the Arabs that whine
like pussies because they know onlyhow to deal out pain but cannot
recieve it without getting outraged about human rights.
>
>
Arabs know every trick in the book to play the West along and Saddam
Hussein tried it with real WMD's that he killed many thousands of
civilians and military personal with.
Fearing the threat from across the water in Iran he eventually found
himself between a rock and a hard place, unable to admit that he had no
remaining WMD's to America in case the Iranians decided his country was
weak enough to annex, these head games saw him eventually on the end of
a rope.
Now the little dwarven dictator in Iran is playing a similar game of
find the lady with his development of Russian backed nuclear WMD's so it
is only to be seen if Obama et al get suckered into yet another fine
mess like their predecessors or will it take another 9/11 type incident
to start the ball rolling again.
Mavisbeacon
so why are you contradicting that ideal by defending the Bush
administrations invasion of Iraq based on a promise of their BELIEF which
was only an idea and had n supporting evidence?
So what? The press reported WP widely BEFORE the current Isralei use in
Paestine.
The recent media attention in Iraq, BEFORE the Israeli use, arose because of
a publication in a Military Journal "Field Artillery" or sinn't you know
that?
>or probably before in tracers and other pyrotechnic ammunition it is only
>the Arabs that whine like pussies because they know onlyhow to deal out
>pain but cannot recieve it without getting outraged about human rights.
Would you please try addressing the points made and not looking for
soundbytes on the ones that suit you?
I didnt make any comments about whining or pussies but about the FACT that
you were wrong when you claimed media attention began with Isreali use.
>>
>>
>
> Arabs know every trick in the book to play the West along and Saddam
> Hussein tried it with real WMD's that he killed many thousands of
> civilians and military personal with.
That was in the 1980s when the Regan Adminsitration SUPPORTED Saddam!
LOL! You are the one trying to change the actual facts! Where is you
evidence for any WMD in Iraq when the US invaded there in 2003?
>
> Fearing the threat from across the water in Iran he eventually found
> himself between a rock and a hard place, unable to admit that he had no
> remaining WMD's to America in case the Iranians decided his country was
> weak enough to annex, these head games saw him eventually on the end of a
> rope.
You are just full of shite!
You claimed that the US didnt go into Iraq because of an IDEA of WMD!
So ??? WHERE ARE THEY?
Trying to say Saddam was not a nice man (even when The Regan Administration
was a pal of his) is not fooling anyone.
In fact saying Saddam was lying about WMD to keep Iran away SUPPORTS the
case for NO WMD!
> Now the little dwarven dictator in Iran is playing a similar game of find
> the lady with his development of Russian backed nuclear WMD's so it is
> only to be seen if Obama et al get suckered into yet another fine mess
> like their predecessors or will it take another 9/11 type incident to
> start the ball rolling again.
Iraq had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with 9/11!
Yo began with the stupid connection with WMD which you have nor provide any
evidence for!
Now you progress to links to Al Qaeda training camps and the like to which
Saddam had no links!
What a waffler you are! Waffle waffle and NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER!
You support the invade Iraq lobby because of AN IDEA of WMD and AND IDEA of
support for ISlamism!
What waffle.
Supply some FACTS!
Lee
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavis...@nospam.forme> wrote in message
No I supported the invade Iraq lobby when the Internet was full of
websites(remember those things before blogs appeared) created by Iraqis
pleading that someone come and liberate their beautiful country from the
evil Ba'athist.
Then the war began and as soon as that big statue of Saddam Hussein was
toppled also observed how the bastards proceeded to murder their
liberators with burned twisted bodies hung from bridges and civilians
butchered and beheaded then posted on the Internets.
I saw the mass graves and the deformed monster babies a result of the
Baathist obsession with chemical murder from the sky amongst all this
Shiite horror I saw how the Western press and people like you mangled
the facts and continually lied by omission about these disgusting
atrocities.So do me a favour and don't ask me for facts for you, go and
look for them yourself because I am sure if your search is successful
you will take a more reasonable view and I have had a bellyful of muslim
attrocities against mankind.
As it happens I now support the idea of having as little to do with
these countries like Iran and Iraq as possible and believe they should
be quarantined from humanity and left to sort their own shiite out.
Mavisbeacon
>
[snip]
And these people did NOT exist in the 1980s when the US were pals of Saddam?
The Baathists go right back to the 60s . In fact they are in power in syria
but the US seems not to have invaded there!
And the internet had information on US Militarism for years BEFORE the
invasion of Iraq!
Why do you only seem to pay attention to the unsupported claims about an
idea of WMD which you want to believe and ignore the actual facts?
> Then the war began and as soon as that big statue of Saddam Hussein was
> toppled
The toplling of the statue was a media set up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyn8Kb_do8g
That is known now!
In the US the people saw a crowd surrounding the statue.
It gave the impression of a full square like the fall of the Berlin wall.
In fact the British ITV showed the square mostly empty and the people going
about their business as usual and only a crowd of maybe a hundred at the
centre of the square!
Also the people in the crowd were a rent a crowd - some of them were "anti
Saddam" protester who had magically appeared hundreds of miles waay at
another protest days before.
Also when the US invaded ther were complaints about using the flag as it
gave tyhe impression of a colony so an order of no USA flags was issued.
So where did the flag come from.
The US Military claimed thatr the tank (not an ordinary tank mind you but a
special one with a ladder on top instead of an artillery gun just happened
to be driving past on its way to the US embassy!
And the tank just happened to have that one single flag which was flying
outside the Pentagon when 9.11 happened!
LOL in a magical media tour the US Military linked 9/11 to Saddam!
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0703-02.htm
http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/641
Here is the actual guy who began the attack on the Statue. Saddam put him in
prison for 9 years for complaining about saddams sons
And even he thinks Iraq is worse off without Saddam and under Us rule!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqvC9Po9-8s&NR=1&feature=fvwp
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/07/293155.shtml
>also observed how the bastards proceeded to murder their liberators with
>burned twisted bodies hung from bridges and civilians butchered and
>beheaded then posted on the Internets.
> I saw the mass graves and the deformed monster babies a result of the
> Baathist obsession with chemical murder from the sky amongst all this
> Shiite horror I saw how the Western press and people like you mangled the
> facts and continually lied by omission about these disgusting atrocities.
LOL! I OPPOSED Saddam when I had family there as first hand witnessess back
in the early 1980s when the Regan administration sold him the precursors of
these chemical weapons!
>So do me a favour and don't ask me for facts for you, go and look for them
>yourself
WHY? cant support your empty claims? YOU are the one claiming the US
occupation was NOT just because of an IDEA a BELIEF but based on FACT!
Now you are asking me to justify an occupation I never asked for?
>because I am sure if your search is successful you will take a more
>reasonable view and I have had a bellyful of muslim attrocities against
>mankind.
Ever heard the phrade "two wrongs don't make a right" . We are NOT
discussing Muslims atrocities! WE are discussing YOUR justification for the
Us occupation of Iraq!
SAying "other people do bad things too" isnt dealing with the issue!
And saying you BELIEVE the facts will emrege is no better than invading Iraq
because of an IDEA or because of a belief in a lie!
>
> As it happens I now support the idea of having as little to do with these
> countries like Iran and Iraq as possible and believe they should be
> quarantined from humanity and left to sort their own shiite out.
So you can go and trash your neighbours house now and take all their worldly
goods and then when you are finished claim it is nothing to do with you and
ask to have them quarantined?
AS it happens Obama is planning to WITHDRAW! But Iraq STILL had oil!
What will the US oil companies do if Iraq or Iran trade oil in Euros or give
control to Russians or Europeans or chinese?
Will you have nothing to do with the Whabi Islamic Saudis when they still
have 25 per cent of world oil?
Will Bush refuse to cosy up to them as usual?
Lee
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavis...@nospam.forme> wrote in message
Assuming that you are an American you seem hell-bent on pulling down
your own country about your ears.
Anybody with any sense would drop the Saudis like a hot potato and build
windmills on top of nuclear reactors on top of wave power machines.
Our lame duck leader over here in England appears to have tied up such
eco power development in industrial strength red tape and gone and sold
it to the Saudis in his own sweet time.
But then again the guy is batshit crazy.
His Majesty Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
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If only you could have your own independent foreign policy.
But you lost the war with America, and you lost the Empire. ;)
Little lion must bow to big lion.
Lee
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Who wants an Empire with all it's idle, layabout, jihad happy hangers
on, what I am talking about is using what is left of English
inventiveness to shake off these militant oily hangers with perhaps new
ideas such as fusion power that works before Socialist halfwits dumb
down the whole population to the level of Well's fictional race the
Eloi.
Mavisbeacon
False appeals to patriotism isn't really an argument is it?
It makes no difference whether I am an american an Iraqi or whatever. I
referred to US policy not Americans.
In particular neoconservative political influence on the Military.
America is a great country. That does not mean every Us gvernment is always
right!
It is also a country which had institutionalised slavery.
>
> Anybody with any sense would drop the Saudis like a hot potato and build
> windmills on top of nuclear reactors on top of wave power machines.
So why does the Bush family not do it then and why did they get bailed out
by the Sauds and go into hock by them?
> Our lame duck leader over here in England appears to have tied up such eco
> power development in industrial strength red tape and gone and sold it to
> the Saudis in his own sweet time.
As opposed to Thatcher who was a big supporteer of the Regan administration?
By the way England does not have a parliament or a government.
The leader of England is the Monarch.
> But then again the guy is batshit crazy.
Well you could have got Michael Foot as PM if things in Labour were
different.
Lee
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavis...@nospam.forme> wrote in message
No but if the US follows the British pattern and allows neo Marxist to
destroys itself from within then you won't really have a choice to be
patriotic or not will you. So in effect allowing totalitarianist fascism
is the end of argument unless of course you don't mind mining salt or
something for 20 years.
> It makes no difference whether I am an american an Iraqi or whatever.
> I referred to US policy not Americans.
> In particular neoconservative political influence on the Military.
> America is a great country. That does not mean every Us gvernment is
> always right!
> It is also a country which had institutionalised slavery.
>
>>
>> Anybody with any sense would drop the Saudis like a hot potato and
>> build windmills on top of nuclear reactors on top of wave power
>> machines.
>
> So why does the Bush family not do it then and why did they get bailed
> out by the Sauds and go into hock by them?
Saudi smeg must be very addictive.
>> Our lame duck leader over here in England appears to have tied up
>> such eco power development in industrial strength red tape and gone
>> and sold it to the Saudis in his own sweet time.
>
> As opposed to Thatcher who was a big supporteer of the Regan
> administration?
> By the way England does not have a parliament or a government.
> The leader of England is the Monarch.
Things have changed over here a bit since 1640 we now have sharia law
and are drowning under nuLabours multicultural social experiment, the
leader of the communist party Gordon Brown evades every attempt to
unseat his unelected ass and since Checkosovakia had it's political arm
twisted into signing the Lisbon treaty the centre of power has now moved
to a place called Brussels as we gradually lose status as a soveriegn
state and become a satalite state of the EU no doubt soon to become
Eurabia.
Mavisbeacon
Quite but you propose a false dichotomy. It isn't a choise between neo
conservatives or else we must have Maerism!
>So in effect allowing totalitarianist fascism is the end of argument unless
>of course you don't mind mining salt or something for 20 years.
You are so off the mark with your "we must have facism or marxism" idea.
The authoritarian mindset tries to propose these left versus right polar
opposite options.
It is NOT a case of one or the other whiuch in anycase are Tweedledum and
Tweedeldee
>
>
>> It makes no difference whether I am an american an Iraqi or whatever. I
>> referred to US policy not Americans.
>> In particular neoconservative political influence on the Military.
>> America is a great country. That does not mean every Us gvernment is
>> always right!
>> It is also a country which had institutionalised slavery.
>>
>>>
>>> Anybody with any sense would drop the Saudis like a hot potato and build
>>> windmills on top of nuclear reactors on top of wave power machines.
>>
>> So why does the Bush family not do it then and why did they get bailed
>> out by the Sauds and go into hock by them?
>
> Saudi smeg must be very addictive.
But you are saying that the family which led tyhe neo conservative movement
are corrupt.
>
>
>>> Our lame duck leader over here in England appears to have tied up such
>>> eco power development in industrial strength red tape and gone and sold
>>> it to the Saudis in his own sweet time.
>>
>> As opposed to Thatcher who was a big supporteer of the Regan
>> administration?
>> By the way England does not have a parliament or a government.
>> The leader of England is the Monarch.
>
> Things have changed over here a bit since 1640 we now have sharia law
No you don't!
> and are drowning under nuLabours multicultural social experiment,
Oh I see! You are just anti any other people coming to England. so do you
include the Irish and Scottish or is it only just non whites?
>the
> leader of the communist party Gordon Brown
He is NOT the leader of the UK communist party!
>evades every attempt to unseat his unelected ass
He was elected just not directly. No Prime Minister is directly elected by
the people in the UK.
>and since Checkosovakia had it's political arm twisted into signing the
>Lisbon treaty
So much for democracy eh! You seem more Stalinist than you claim. 27
countriues vote for Lisbon and you claim they are all wrong!
> the centre of power has now moved to a place called Brussels as we
> gradually lose status as a soveriegn state and become a satalite state of
> the EU no doubt soon to become Eurabia.
You seem to have a problem with Arabs and forigners. do you think you are
somehow better than arabs Irish and Scottish people?
England does not seem to have produced more Noble literature Prize winners
than them - for English Literature!
Lee
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavis...@nospam.forme> wrote in message
Oh yes we do and there are increasing number of people entering this
country illegally who would have it replace our own legal system
completely.
>> and are drowning under nuLabours multicultural social experiment,
>
> Oh I see! You are just anti any other people coming to England. so do
> you include the Irish and Scottish or is it only just non whites?
FFS drop the race card it won't work with me, I don't really give a toss
who comes here as long as they leave the country as it is, that is
English than the world tagging the capital city Londonistan because the
indigenous population are now a minority in their own country.
> >the
>> leader of the communist party Gordon Brown
>
> He is NOT the leader of the UK communist party!
No they are still trying to pass the shambolic political entity as
nuLabour to the voter at least until after the next election which if by
some fluke they manage to get a majority again then this country and
2000+ years of history is well and truely fc*ked and eventually is
likely to become just a small quasi Islamic state in the North of Soviet
Eurabia.
>
>>evades every attempt to unseat his unelected ass
>
> He was elected just not directly. No Prime Minister is directly
> elected by the people in the UK.
>
>>and since Checkosovakia had it's political arm twisted into signing
>>the Lisbon treaty
>
> So much for democracy eh! You seem more Stalinist than you claim. 27
> countriues vote for Lisbon and you claim they are all wrong!
Brown REFUSED a referendum in England despite many request for one. And
when the fc*k did I claim to be a Stalinist??
>
>> the centre of power has now moved to a place called Brussels as we
>> gradually lose status as a soveriegn state and become a satalite
>> state of the EU no doubt soon to become Eurabia.
>
> You seem to have a problem with Arabs and forigners. do you think you
> are somehow better than arabs Irish and Scottish people?
> England does not seem to have produced more Noble literature Prize
> winners than them - for English Literature!
>>
Yup but it looks like your out for a Nobel prize for trolling,
unfortunatly they don't do one... sad.
Mavisbeacon
No you don't! Sharia law is not the law of the land in england no more than
Canon Law is! Less so in fact!
>and there are increasing number of people entering this country illegally
>who would have it replace our own legal system completely.
Yes and there were communists in the past and Mosleyites and all sorts of
loonies. Democracy tolerates that it does not persecute it.
>
>
>>> and are drowning under nuLabours multicultural social experiment,
>>
>> Oh I see! You are just anti any other people coming to England. so do you
>> include the Irish and Scottish or is it only just non whites?
>
> FFS drop the race card it won't work with me,
But I didnt bring up the "multicultural" argument YOU DID!
>I don't really give a toss who comes here as long as they leave the country
>as it is,
so you dont think Engnand should ever change?
It should always stay the same way?
A bit Victorian aren't you?
Do you really believe England is perfect and as the population changes they
should have to fit in with what you want?
Why do you believe the people should not be able to make the law and it
should just be what YOU want?
>that is English than the world tagging the capital city Londonistan because
>the indigenous population are now a minority in their own country.
You didnt complain when the English were a minoroty in India or Ireland or
Scotland or America. Well you didn't complain until it meant that you didn't
have the majority of the wealth.
what is an "indigenous population" ? You do realise that many Arabs West
Indians Indians Africans and others are British citizens?
Why do you think only white British subjects should hbe able to make laws
and all the other British shouldnt?
>
>> >the
>>> leader of the communist party Gordon Brown
>>
>> He is NOT the leader of the UK communist party!
>
> No they are still trying to pass the shambolic political entity as
> nuLabour to the voter at least until after the next election which if by
> some fluke they manage to get a majority again then this country and 2000+
> years of history
England is not 2000 years old. It is barely in its current form since
Elizabeth I about 400 years ago.
>is well and truely fc*ked and eventually is likely to become just a small
>quasi Islamic state in the North of Soviet Eurabia.
This is strange considering the tiny minority of slavs in England compared
to other immegrants! You should check your facts.
>
>>
>>>evades every attempt to unseat his unelected ass
>>
>> He was elected just not directly. No Prime Minister is directly elected
>> by the people in the UK.
>>
>>>and since Checkosovakia had it's political arm twisted into signing the
>>>Lisbon treaty
>>
>> So much for democracy eh! You seem more Stalinist than you claim. 27
>> countriues vote for Lisbon and you claim they are all wrong!
>
> Brown REFUSED a referendum in England
Oh so now you think one of the oldest the parliamentary system in the world
is wrong!
Or is it only because you think you would get YOUR WAY if most of the
ignorant and confused English people voted against Lisbon?
>despite many request for one. And when the fc*k did I claim to be a
>Stalinist??
You claim that the vote of 27 EU countries should be subject to your
personal approval! that is Stalinist!
You dont even accept the parliamentary system you have in your own country!
>
>
>>
>>> the centre of power has now moved to a place called Brussels as we
>>> gradually lose status as a soveriegn state and become a satalite state
>>> of the EU no doubt soon to become Eurabia.
>>
>> You seem to have a problem with Arabs and forigners. do you think you are
>> somehow better than arabs Irish and Scottish people?
>> England does not seem to have produced more Noble literature Prize
>> winners than them - for English Literature!
>>>
>
> Yup but it looks like your out for a Nobel prize for trolling,
> unfortunatly they don't do one... sad.
Im just indicating latent biogotry.
Lee
"Mavisbeacon" <Mavis...@nospam.forme> wrote in message
What democracy under this state that is so socialy engineered into
stupidity that it cannot even compete anymore in the global marketplace.
>>
>>
>>>> and are drowning under nuLabours multicultural social experiment,
>>>
>>> Oh I see! You are just anti any other people coming to England. so
>>> do you include the Irish and Scottish or is it only just non whites?
>>
>> FFS drop the race card it won't work with me,
>
> But I didnt bring up the "multicultural" argument YOU DID!
Bloody hell Mavis it there in the previous statement that YOU made four
lines back concerning Irish, Scots or Non whites.
>>I don't really give a toss who comes here as long as they leave the
>>country as it is,
>
> so you dont think Engnand should ever change?
> It should always stay the same way?
> A bit Victorian aren't you?
> Do you really believe England is perfect and as the population changes
> they should have to fit in with what you want?
> Why do you believe the people should not be able to make the law and
> it should just be what YOU want?
>
>>that is English than the world tagging the capital city Londonistan
>>because the indigenous population are now a minority in their own
>>country.
>
> You didnt complain when the English were a minoroty in India or
> Ireland or Scotland or America. Well you didn't complain until it
> meant that you didn't have the majority of the wealth.
> what is an "indigenous population" ? You do realise that many Arabs
> West Indians Indians Africans and others are British citizens?
> Why do you think only white British subjects should hbe able to make
> laws and all the other British shouldnt?
Of course I did not complain it is really bloody difficult to do so over
100 years before you were even born, it is nobody but Arabs that is
attempting to spread this primitive sharia BS in many countries with
currently 50 jihad inspired wars running concurrently at the present
time so no I do not think I want the Sharia up and running in my own
country no more than the Saudis allow churches to be built in their own
sandy homelands.
>
>>
>>> >the
>>>> leader of the communist party Gordon Brown
>>>
>>> He is NOT the leader of the UK communist party!
>>
>> No they are still trying to pass the shambolic political entity as
>> nuLabour to the voter at least until after the next election which if
>> by some fluke they manage to get a majority again then this country
>> and 2000+ years of history
>
> England is not 2000 years old. It is barely in its current form since
> Elizabeth I about 400 years ago.
Post Victorian history and archeolgy proves there was a lot more to the
inhabitants of these islands than mere waod painted savage image that
the Victorians loved to present to the world who amounted to nothing
till the Romans showed up and apparently civilised them.
If the world hates the English that much it would be better to take us
out quickly with nukes or something rather than this historical genocide
that socialist are attempting by changing the history books gradually
like the liars that they are.
In an age of Empire building WHY are the people who were most succesfull
in this enterprise castigated so badly anyway, many ex colonies on
gaining independence fell appart into failed states anyway, many savage
rituals and customs around the world were consigned to history by these
'evil' colonisers.
You are not, all that is happening is that another liberal fascist has
had his/her head pounded full of neo-Marxist political correctness and
multicultural indoctrination leaving about as much room for flexibility
of thought as a prize stud bull that has been almost totally lobotomised
then left in a barn full of heifers.
Mavisbeacon
>
[snip]
>>
>>>and there are increasing number of people entering this country illegally
>>>who would have it replace our own legal system completely.
>>
>> Yes and there were communists in the past and Mosleyites and all sorts of
>> loonies. Democracy tolerates that it does not persecute it.
>
> What democracy under this state that is so socialy engineered into
> stupidity that it cannot even compete anymore in the global marketplace.
And your evidence is?
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> and are drowning under nuLabours multicultural social experiment,
>>>>
>>>> Oh I see! You are just anti any other people coming to England. so do
>>>> you include the Irish and Scottish or is it only just non whites?
>>>
>>> FFS drop the race card it won't work with me,
>>
>> But I didnt bring up the "multicultural" argument YOU DID!
>
> Bloody hell Mavis it there in the previous statement that YOU made four
> lines back concerning Irish, Scots or Non whites.
Yes in reply to YOUR comment BEFORE it! Y0 know the one with the word
"multicultural" in it?
>
>
[snip]
>>
>>>that is English than the world tagging the capital city Londonistan
>>>because the indigenous population are now a minority in their own
>>>country.
>>
>> You didnt complain when the English were a minoroty in India or Ireland
>> or Scotland or America. Well you didn't complain until it meant that you
>> didn't have the majority of the wealth.
>> what is an "indigenous population" ? You do realise that many Arabs West
>> Indians Indians Africans and others are British citizens?
>> Why do you think only white British subjects should hbe able to make laws
>> and all the other British shouldnt?
>
>
> Of course I did not complain it is really bloody difficult to do so over
> 100 years before you were even born,
You are only showing the fact that you don't really care about history or
tradition and only about what suits YOU!
I mean "you colonisers" didnt complain because like YOU today as long as you
get that YOU want and things suit YOU then it is alright isn't it?
>it is nobody but Arabs that is attempting to spread this primitive sharia
>BS in many countries
That is entirely untrue!
first not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Arabic Muslims are
fundamentalists.
Second there are non Arabic fundamentalists in Iran and Indonesia for
example.
>with currently 50 jihad inspired wars running concurrently at the present
>time
"concurrently" makes the rest of that phrase redundant but in any case can
you list these 50 Wars which are Jihads?
>so no I do not think I want the Sharia up and running in my own country
That is NOT the point! The point is YOU CLAIMED England was under Sharia
Law. It isn't!
The threat of Islamism is over hyped.
>no more than the Saudis allow churches to be built in their own sandy
>homelands.
This is just "two wrongs make a right" If Nazis Gas people it does not mean
people should gas Nazis does it?
Why emulate despots?
>>>
>>>> >the
>>>>> leader of the communist party Gordon Brown
>>>>
>>>> He is NOT the leader of the UK communist party!
>>>
>>> No they are still trying to pass the shambolic political entity as
>>> nuLabour to the voter at least until after the next election which if by
>>> some fluke they manage to get a majority again then this country and
>>> 2000+ years of history
>>
>> England is not 2000 years old. It is barely in its current form since
>> Elizabeth I about 400 years ago.
>
> Post Victorian history and archeolgy proves there was a lot more to the
> inhabitants of these islands than mere waod painted savage image that the
> Victorians loved to present to the world who amounted to nothing till the
> Romans showed up and apparently civilised them.
I am aware of that. But that does not mean they were English! In fact the
original inhabitants were pushed out by invaders. They spoke Brittannic and
if anything the Welsh, cornish and Breton people are closer to them than the
English of today.
Quite clearly Ireland and Scotland were not under Roman rule and suffered
from the low level of technology but the spread of Christianity enables
these people to embrace learning.
>
> If the world hates the English that much it would be better to take us out
> quickly with nukes or something rather than this historical genocide that
> socialist are attempting by changing the history books gradually like the
> liars that they are.
all history is a myth. The map is not the territory. History is not the
past.
> In an age of Empire building WHY are the people who were most succesfull
> in this enterprise castigated so badly anyway,
Probably for the very reason I pointed to.... that Imperialists rarely care
about anything other then what THEY can get out of anything. "Take up the
white mans burden" is exceptional.
> many ex colonies on gaining independence fell appart into failed states
> anyway,
If you bleed a country dry of its resources, kill the local population,
introduce slavery etc. this tends to happen.
> many savage rituals and customs around the world were consigned to history
> by these 'evil' colonisers.
And many were introduced by them. The slave trade for example.
[snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the centre of power has now moved to a place called Brussels as we
>>>>> gradually lose status as a soveriegn state and become a satalite state
>>>>> of the EU no doubt soon to become Eurabia.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to have a problem with Arabs and forigners. do you think you
>>>> are somehow better than arabs Irish and Scottish people?
>>>> England does not seem to have produced more Noble literature Prize
>>>> winners than them - for English Literature!
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Yup but it looks like your out for a Nobel prize for trolling,
>>> unfortunatly they don't do one... sad.
>>
>> Im just indicating latent biogotry.
>>
>
>
> You are not,
I am.
> all that is happening is that another liberal fascist
I am not liberal nor fascist. Bt of coourse if you define anyone not
agreeing with you as that then what can I say?
>has had his/her head pounded full of neo-Marxist political correctness
Marxists led to the Stalinist and Maoist destruction of life surpassing any
despot in history.
and
> multicultural indoctrination leaving about as much room for flexibility
clearly you oppose multiculturalism
As it happens I am not fond of it. I believe in intraculturalism and which
tradition should be part of heritage everyone should share things like
property or services and ghettoes should not be created.
> of thought as a prize stud bull that has been almost totally lobotomised
> then left in a barn full of heifers.
That analogy is pointless to me.
>
>