Kerry's LIES EXPOSED about his Vietnam record!!!
SwiftboatersSinkKerry
America wants to learn about John Kerry.
OK, we've done that, and John Kerry is NOT going to be pleased with the
findings!
http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video_wmv.html
Mr. N
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With any luck, this ad will get play on every TV station in America.
It will be one of many things that usher in a landslide win for Kerry.
Damn, you Bush Republicans are some stupid, lying, unAmerican scumbags.
I'm all for that ad airing everywhere - and showing America just how much.
--
-Mr. N
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I stand before you this evening because I truly believe that no one will be
more resolute in defending America nor in pursuing terrorists than John
Kerry. And that no one will be more skilled in bringing allies back to our
side.
-Retired Army General John Shalikasvili
Dino
The funny thing is that you keep proving that Kerry served. Bush did
not serve and in fact was trained to fly a fighter that his daddy knew
was being decommissioned. He had paid training and then never showed
for the flight physical. Keep bringing up the service records, they
keep bringing Bush down.
Posted by Rubber Dino
Bye Bye Bush
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> http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video_wmv.html
So tell me, how does a book publisher get into politics?
Alicia Carter definitely didn't serve in Nam.
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commentators say it's our job as Americans to vote. Let me tell
you something, with Bush in charge of the economy, this might
be the only job you have all year." -Jay Leno
abracadabra
"SwiftboatersSinkKerry" <TossHi...@dem.com> wrote in message
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> America wants to learn about John Kerry.
We met them on the campaign trail. They said Kerry is a hero
Of course Bush sat out the war he supported.
Roger
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From
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Swift_Boat_Veterans_for_Truth
* On May 17, 2004, Matt Gunn shares a segment from Joe Conason's recent
registration-required Salon "uncovering" of "yet more 'Swift Boat Veterans
for Truth' Republican ties, as if there weren't enough on record already"
[Gunn comments]:
"When the 'Swift Boat Veterans for Truth' launched its campaign against
John Kerry 10 days ago, leadership and guidance were provided by Republican
activists and presidential friends from Texas -- notably Houston attorney
John E. O'Neill and corporate media consultant Merrie Spaeth.
"On closer inspection, the ostensibly nonpartisan 'Swift Boat Vets' seem
to have another pair of significant sponsors with deep and long-standing
Republican connections in Missouri. Both are officers of Gannon
International, a St. Louis conglomerate that does lots of overseas business
in, of all places, the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
"Ties to Gannon can be traced via the Swift Boat Vets Web site ... On
April 14, the site was registered under the name of Lewis Waterman, Gannon's
information technology manager, at 11301 Olive Boulevard in St. Louis, the
firm's headquarters address. Although Waterman wouldn't discuss why he had
set up the Web site, he didn't deny that his boss, Gannon president and CEO
William Franke, had asked him to do so.
"'The information about my client is confidential,' said Waterman. He
acknowledged knowing, however, that his boss Franke is a Navy veteran who
served in Vietnam on swift boats. Gannon vice president Stephen D. Hayes,
who oversees the company's office in Alexandria, Va., is likewise a swift
boat veteran who first met Franke when they served together in the Mekong
Delta."
"What is most intriguing about Franke, Hayes, and Gannon -- especially
in light of their apparent role in the campaign against John Kerry -- are
their strong commercial interests in Southeast Asia. While Gannon is a
highly diversified holding company whose divisions range from real estate in
Florida and Missouri to Internet technology and software, it maintains an
unusual presence in Vietnam, with offices in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh
City. Indeed, Gannon has operated in that country's tourism, real estate and
import-export sectors for a decade. (The target market for its tours was
fellow Vietnam veterans.)
"None of Gannon's profitable activities in the communist republic would
be possible, of course, without the approval of the Hanoi government, which
Franke has described as 'strong' and 'stable.' Nor would Gannon be
conducting business in Vietnam without the Clinton administration diplomacy,
assisted by Sen. Kerry, that established diplomatic and trade ties with the
United States in 1994. Franke first began traveling to Vietnam on behalf of
Operation Smile, an American charity that provides plastic surgery to
children abroad. The relationships he established during those humanitarian
missions provided a considerable advantage in doing business under
government auspices.
"It was also during those early visits to Vietnam, as he told the St.
Louis Post-Dispatch, that Franke reached a clearer understanding of the war
he had once fought as a young Navy lieutenant.
"'As I looked back 20 years, I saw that it was a very imperial
relationship we had with these people,' said Franke in 1989. 'We were young.
We were there because we were told to be there and that they were the enemy.
This time I saw them as human beings who had fears and hopes the same as
we.'
"Yet he evidently cannot forgive John Kerry for reaching the same
conclusion about that war and its victims, so many years before he finally
did."
PagCal
political slime by the Republicans, and is roundly ignored.
SwiftboatersSinkKerry
"PagCal" <pag...@runbox.com> wrote in message
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> In the heartland, the swift boaters against Kerry is seen as just more
> political slime by the Republicans, and is roundly ignored.
>
No, in the heartland those men who served alongside Kerry (or, in some
cases, who were Kerry's superior officers) are seen as just more reasons why
Kerry is political slime, someone who is unfit to be commander in chief, as
those men themselves have pointed out.
http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video_wmv.html
Harry Grogan
Shall we bring up Clinton's service record??Your hippocriddity is showing!!
Roger
From
Roger
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Is Clinton running for President again?
I thought he couldn't.
SwiftboatersSinkKerry
"Harry Grogan" <maynardgk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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We should also point out that Kerry obviously "did not serve" either, since
he was in fact trained to pilot a Swiftboat (kind of like a Boston Whaler)
yet today Kerry pilots a boat that looks nothing at all like a Boston
Whaler. Ergo (per Liberal Democrat Logic, that is) Kerry "did not serve".
And liberal Democrats actually *wonder* why the rest of America thinks they
are such total assholes???
PagCal
is purely Republican. If you'd like to refut this, please post your
financial statements here for all to see.
SwiftboatersSinkKerry
> The reason your swift boat group is roundly ignored is that it's funding
> is purely Republican. If you'd like to refut this, please post your
> financial statements here for all to see.
The reason John Kerry is roundly ignored by thinking Americans and by
patriotic Americans is that his funding is purely Democrat. If you'd like
to refute [learn to spell, you ignorant Democrat] this, please post YOUR
Bert Bishop
This post doesn't answer or address PagCal's question.
It flames a typo which is generally considered bad netiquette. And this
from someone who misuses a noun as an adjective. (I make plenty of
typos and probably some grammatical errors, but isn't that to be
expected on the newsgroups? After all, it's supposed to be a
conversational medium).
SwiftboatersSinkKerry
"Bert Bishop" <bert_...@eudroamail.com> wrote in message
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> SwiftboatersSinkKerry wrote:
> >
> > "PagCal" <pag...@runbox.com> wrote in message
> > news:10h475p...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > The reason your swift boat group is roundly ignored is that it's
funding
> > > is purely Republican. If you'd like to refut this, please post your
> > > financial statements here for all to see.
> >
> > The reason John Kerry is roundly ignored by thinking Americans and by
> > patriotic Americans is that his funding is purely Democrat. If you'd
like
> > to refute [learn to spell, you ignorant Democrat] this, please post YOUR
> > financial statements here for all to see.
>
> This post doesn't answer or address PagCal's question.
Perhaps because PagCal didn't ASK a question above?
While you reflect on THAT, the rest of us can surf over to the following two
websites and reflect on what THESE people have to say about Lt. John Forbes
Kerry!
and
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/logan.htm
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
<TossHi...@dem.com> wrote:
>John Edwards told America to "ask the men who served with John Kerry" if
>America wants to learn about John Kerry.
>
>OK, we've done that, and John Kerry is NOT going to be pleased with the
>findings!
11 of the 12 rave about Kerry.
The one doesn't. Those are the 12 who served with him.
Who will Bush get to come to his convention to praise his service?
The dentist. The dentist will be up there with slides of oral xrays
showing Lt Bush actually was in Alabama.
Once.
In the records of donations, I noticed that of 224 librarians who have
donated money to Bush or Kerry, all but one has given to Kerry.
Some professions tilt to one party rather than the other.
Among military officers, though not the military in general, 85
percent are Republicans.
So it's not surprising that you can find many military officers
opposed to Kerry.
Just as I can find many librarians opposed to Bush.
Note that the stories of these folks have changed. Col Hibbert, is
that his name?, says bad things about Kerry. Now that he has learned
he is a democrat.
But back in Viet Nam, before he knew Kerry was a Democrat, he lavishly
praised him.
Get the picture?
>
>http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video_wmv.html
>
Kerry was a real hero, as those on the boat with him are glad to tell
you.
They were there. Their lives were at stake.
Bush was a deserter in time of war. We know that because Bush refuses
to sign the simple release form to let the press get all his records
on this matter. It is fair to conclude that he refuses to let the
press see the records because he deserted.
We have a war hero opposed to a guy who used his Dad's connections to
dodge the draft, and even in his guard duty here in the US he
deserted.
It's a clear choice.
Roger
You're talking to a troll. A well known name-changing troll.
Roger
From
John Tibbs
SwiftboatersSinkKerry wrote:
Please don't pick on typos. That is the liberal's job. Sometimes
that's all they have and it's not fair to take it from them. They may sue!
jt
>
>
dino
It is fun when you have no argument. Clinton is not running, and he
did not claim to be a "war" President, though Bush, in the flip-flop
of the century so far is now claiming to be the "peace" pResident.
I am sure you volunteered to pilot the swift boats but since that was
not dangerous enough you did something else. Could you enlighten us on
what it was? Also Bush must have been on some super secret mission
after being trained as a fighter pilot, because no one saw him in
uniform after that until "Mission Accomplished".
Posted by the Rubber Dino.
Gogarty
TossHi...@dem.com says...
>
>
>We should also point out that Kerry obviously "did not serve" either, since
>he was in fact trained to pilot a Swiftboat (kind of like a Boston Whaler)
>yet today Kerry pilots a boat that looks nothing at all like a Boston
>Whaler. Ergo (per Liberal Democrat Logic, that is) Kerry "did not serve".
>
Fifty feet? Boston Whaler? I don't think so.
Gogarty
>
>
>The reason your swift boat group is roundly ignored is that it's funding
>is purely Republican. If you'd like to refut this, please post your
>financial statements here for all to see.
>
quiet about Bush's military recaord, if any. That will now change.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
<TossHi...@dem.com> wrote:
>John Edwards told America to "ask the men who served with John Kerry" if
>America wants to learn about John Kerry.
>
>OK, we've done that, and John Kerry is NOT going to be pleased with the
>findings!
Both McCain and the White House have condenmed the ad.
It's obviously false, a scam ginned up by the same people whe lied
about McCain when he was running against Bush.
The pro-bush forces will do anything, say anything, no matter how
dishonest.
For instaance, the doctor who claims Kerry's wound was trivial wasn't
even the doctor who treated him for that wound. Documents from the
time show that the Purple Heart wound was a different matter treated
by a different doctor, who signed the form.
Not the goofball doctor in this vidieo who after 36 years has a memory
of something else. We know his memory is wrong - because the documents
prove it.
It's that kind of crap.
McCain says it's dishonest and dishonorable. Even the WH has said they
don't stand behind it.
John O'neill did NOT serve with Kerry.
But in Texas he WAS a member of a law firm representing George Bush..
Did you know that?
I'm sure that being Bush's lawyer had nothing to do with his memory
about these matters.
>
>http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video_wmv.html
>
Bryan
abracadabra wrote:
It seems Kerry was the one who broke his own appeal to not attack each
other during this campaign. Why are we not surprised !?
abracadabra
"Bryan" <Br...@news.net> wrote in message
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LOL
Kerry hasn't made any personal attacks against President Bush silly.
Roger
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Their dreams are indistinguishable from the truth for them.
PagCal
ignored by most Americans) was because it was funded by Republicans for
purely political purposes. In other words, it's just another negative
Republican attack ad.
You were provided an opportunity to refute this supposition, but you
haven't yet - so, obiviously, my supposition is true.
Warren Stupidity
None of them served with Kerry. One of them, the only one with any
direct knowledge has this to say:
Veteran retracts criticism of Kerry
By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | August 6, 2004
WASHINGTON -- A week after Senator John F. Kerry heralded his wartime
experience by surrounding himself at the Democratic convention with
his Vietnam ''Band of Brothers," a separate group of veterans has
launched a television ad campaign and a book that questions the basis
for some of Kerry's combat medals.
ADVERTISEMENT
But yesterday, a key figure in the anti-Kerry campaign, Kerry's former
commanding officer, backed off one of the key contentions. Lieutenant
Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a
''terrible mistake" in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did
not deserve the Silver Star -- one of the main allegations in the
book. The affidavit was given to The Boston Globe by the anti-Kerry
group to justify assertions in their ad and book.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/06/veteran_retracts_criticism_of_kerry/
The Washington NeoClowns can't even get their clown
shoes on right, and there is no wrong way to do that.
==
Mark Roddy
"Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event like a
new Pearl Harbor."
-- Project for a New American Century,
-- the neocon cabal's blueprint for world empire.
http://www.newamericancentury.org
ma...@merde.com
<wease...@nospam.com> wrote:
>Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a
>''terrible mistake" in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did
>not deserve the Silver Star
He said he should have put more emphasis in Kerry faking injuries to
receive three Purple Hearts instead.
Typical Democrat, lying and manipualting the truth.
Roger
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> On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:01:41 -0400, Warren Stupidity
> <wease...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a
> >''terrible mistake" in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did
> >not deserve the Silver Star
>
> He said he should have put more emphasis in Kerry faking injuries to
> receive three Purple Hearts instead.
Fucking liar.
Elliott then described how Kerry ''managed to pull Lt. Rassman aboard
despite the painful wound in his right arm." Elliott concluded that Kerry
had been ''calm, professional, and highly courageous in the face of enemy
fire."
Elliott, in the interview yesterday, said that based on the affidavits of
the veterans on other boats, he now thinks his assessment about the Bronze
Star and third Purple Heart may have been based on poor information.
In one affidavit, for example, Van O'Dell, who said he had been in a boat
near Kerry on that day, declared that Kerry had ''lied" about what happened
on that day and said that Rassmann was not under enemy fire when Kerry
pulled him aboard.
Elliott, asked about the contradiction between his recommendation and his
new questioning of Kerry's third Purple Heart, responded, ''It makes me look
kind of silly, to be perfectly honest."
But he said: ''I simply have no reason for these guys to be lying, and if
they are lying in concert, it is one hell of a conspiracy. So, on the basis
of all of the information that has come out, I have chosen to believe the
other men. I absolutely do not know first hand."
Psalm 110
nuclear weapons submarine sea-launch technology to North Korea in
1994.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS in 1994.
Sun Myung Moon's Japanese Toen Trading company delivered 12 Russian
Golf missile submarines with launch tubes intact. The North Korean
communists studied this technology and adapted their missiles to be
sea launched from surface and submarine platforms. North Korea now has
nuclear weapon strike capability which can reach the continental
United States from sea-based mobile launch facilities at distances of
2,500 miles. This website has clickable links to Sun Myung Moon
subversion sources, documentation, proof.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
LINKS -- NK sea-missile capability: http://www.navyseals.com
http://www.janes.com http://www.reuters.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk
http://www.washingtontimes.com http://www.newscientist.com
http://www.townhall.com http://www.freerepublic.com
http://www.libertyforum.org http://www.theage.com.au
http://www.iht.com http://www.latimes.com
LINKS -- North Korean-born Sun Myung Moon's Toen Trading Submarine
Subversion: http://www.freerepublic.com http://www.usasurvival.org
http://www.gorenfeld.net http://www.davidicke.net
http://blog.mmadsen.org http://www.kenlayne.com
http://www.pandagon.net http://jameswagner.com
http://functionalambivalent.typepad.com http://www.la-mancha.net
http://windsofchange.net http://thoughtcrimes.org http://www.vuw.ac.nz
Sun Myung Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper, and he owns the
UPI (United Press International) wireservice. He controls the main
Washington DC conservative propaganda mill. The Washington Times has
been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. Every
time that a republican politician quotes the Washington Times, or
writes an article or op-ed in it, Sun Myung Moon is made larger in his
brainwashed follower's eyes. Conservatives are so desperate for
propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet Sun Myung
Moon's organized crime activities in exchange for the help his
organized crime front operations deliver to them.
Sun Myung Moon has paid ex-presidents, such as George Herbert Walker
Bush up to $10,000,000 for photo-op and endorsements, because his
virtually captive followers have very restricted access to news. They
are told that everybody Moon shakes hands with has accepted Moon as
their lord and savior. This global slave labor force replenishes a $10
million expense for faked stage setting photo-op in a couple of days.
LINKS about Moonies, Bush, Washinton Times connections:
The Moonies: Everything you wanted to know about Sun Myung Moon and
the Unification Church
Moonie and Related Links
* The Right Wing Media Conspiracy - How the Moonies and right wing
groups control the media
* Moonies and the Washington Times - The mouthpiece of Sun Myung
Moon
* Is George Bush a Moonie? - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the
Moonies
* Inside Look at the Moonies - Great article I snagged
* Moonie Front Organizations - 1000 organization that are Moonie
fronts
* Consortium News - Very good articles about Moonies and other
right wingers
* Bush and Moon - US CIA and Korean CIA?? GHW Bush Praises Sun
Myung Moon as 'Man of Vision'
* Sun Myung Moon - "the Savior, Messiah and King of Kings of all
of humanity"
* The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money - the political largesse of
Sun Myung Moon.
Sun Myung Moon crowned as Second Coming in DC
The news of a very strange event that occurred at the end of March,
but was quietly swept under the carpet by the mainstream media, is
just now beginning to leak out. Expect to hear more about it in the
coming days. Here's a preview on what surely must be one of the most
bizarre happenings in the long history of Congressional oddities...
It occurred on March 23, 2004 when Reverend Sun Myung Moon, cultist
leader of the Unification Church (currently known as The Family
Federation for World Peace and Unification), was crowned "King of
Peace" in a coronation ceremony. In his coronation speech, Moon told
the audience that it was now time to officially recognize him as the
returned Messiah.
LINKS:
Moon Crowned in the Capital, [Unification Church] Sun Myung Moon
Crowned 'King Of America' At U.S. Senate Building, Hail to the Moon
king, Moon Over Washington, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah By
Congressmen, Sun Myung Moon crowned as Messiah by U.S. Senate! Moonie
leader 'crowned' in Senate, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah! U.S.
Lawmakers Crown rev. Sun Myung Moon Messiah! Here's a guy the
Republicans don't want us to know about. (Actually, it was a democrat
conservative, to the great relief of republican conservatives, who
placed the crown on Moon, in this hoax ceremony. In Moon's world he
replaces all governments with his Taliban, so Republicans and
Democrats all will be liquidated.
The quaint mass marriage ceremonies of the Moonies has another
significance: these represent thousands upon thousand upon thousands
of members of an organized crime empire, as dedicated as body-bomb
suicide muslims, to the eccentric whims of this visibly insane man.
Moonies surreptitiously swell rallies for rightwing causes, clog the
internet forums with their unshakable propaganda-mongering which
cannot be reasoned with, vote as a block and move across state lines
to do it. They even move across international boundaries to meddle in
politics.
Moonies also collaborate with other organized crime rings for mutal
profit.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html