>> "Mr.B1ack" <nowh...@nada.net> wrote in message
>> news:cqWdndZz7ME_6AnNnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 02:51:54 -0400, Sid9 wrote:

>>>> "Mr.B1ack" <nowh...@nada.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:toydnfMngP3k_A7NnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:20:12 -0400, Sid9 wrote:

>>>>>> "Mr.B1ack" <nowh...@nada.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:bKmdnSHFa-jcTgzNnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>>> Far worse seeing lawyers as law-makers ....

>>>>>>> Oh yea ... who IS acceptable for president then if it can't be
>>>>>>> lawyers or 'businessmen' ? Joe Plumber ? Almost everybody is a
>>>>>>> 'businessman' to some degree or another.

>>>>>>> Ah ... welfare queens and college professors - just perfect, right
>>>>>>> ? :-)
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> Turning a government into a business is one bad idea.

>>>>>   Government isn't really meant to be run like a business ....
>>>>>   although govt CAN be informed by business realities. Our govt seems
>>>>>   to have lost touch, thinks insane deficits don't mean anything,
>>>>>   thinks vast corporate welfare is a safe proposition.

>>>>>> Nonetheless, Romney is not businessman since he didn't run
>>>>>> businesses.

>>>>>   Close enough. Don't try splitting hairs.

>>>>>> Romney took over businesses and bled them dry at the expense of the
>>>>>> shareholders and employees.

>>>>>   He'd say he was "recycling" them. Not entirely true, but not
>>>>>   entirely false either.

>>>>>> Then he grabbed a bundle of cash and declared bankruptcy. Vampire
>>>>>> might be a better description.

>>>>>   An alternative product of the amoral 60's and 70's. Their fathers
>>>>>   generation aimed to "build America" whereas their kids are
>>>>>   vultures, only interested in scavenging as much, and as quickly, as
>>>>>   possible.

>>>>>> But, it doesn’t matter. Obama's getting his second term. Romney will
>>>>>> never be president

>>>>>   Um .... that remains to be seen. It's REALLY close now. May even be
>>>>>   a remake of 'W' -v- Gore.

>>>>>   Back when OB was elected I issued a warning - that perceived
>>>>>   messianic figures have a LOT more to live up to than regular guys -
>>>>>   and that they are sure to fail, to NOT live up to their promise.
>>>>>   The higher you are, the further and faster you can fall.

>>>>>   People are idiots for believing in prophets and saviors .... but
>>>>>   that doesn't matter because they will still HATE false prophets and
>>>>>   lying impotent would-be saviors.

>>>>>   This is why OB is at risk. Isn't anything HE did per-se ... but
>>>>>   it's what he and his people allowed the public to believe. The
>>>>>   people wanted a savior and they didn't damp down such sentiments or
>>>>>   expectations.
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> A vote for Romney is a vote for the unknown. Which of his stated
>>>> policies would he follow?

>>>> Obama will be elected and it wont even be close.

>>>   Uh oh ..... google "True Believer" ....  :-)

>>>> Republicans blew it big time with McCain/ Palin.

>>>   That was then - and Americans have a nefariously short memory.

>>>   And I'm not even sure people voted against McCain ... I think they
>>>   were voting against the GOP at the time and McCain just happened to
>>>   be "it".

>>>   To Americans, with their short memories, the grass is ALWAYS greener
>>>   across the street. It doesn't MATTER that the GOP let its banker
>>>   friends run amok because the details have gone all fuzzy in the
>>>   collective mind. People only relate to what's happening NOW, what a
>>>   'leader' has done for them LATELY.

>>>   So, just as they were mad at Republicans four years ago, now they're
>>>   mad at Democrats and they feel SURE the grass must be greener over on
>>>   Mitt's side of the street.

>>>   It isn't ... but that's not how people think. In politics, the
>>>   illusion is the reality.

>>>> Then they turned their primary into a circus show with less that
>>>> mediocre candidates vying for the nomination.

>>>   Doesn't matter. Past history. Mitt emerged from the mess and has
>>>   since done quite well for himself.

>>>> As we all know, the best of that lot emerged and was crowned
>>>> "candidate"

>>>   Well, the king idiot emerged ...

>>>   Just like from the '04 DNC convention ....

>>>   Oh well, none of them got to be the king idiot unless they were in
>>>   Big Money's pocket - so for all the important stuff, one is as good
>>>   as another. The main difference is that each offers a different
>>>   flavor of kool-aid ....

>>>> He then, showing the same kind of poor judgment as McCain, chose Paul
>>>> Ryan as his running mate.

>>>   But he's LIKABLE ... woulda made a great used car salesman  :-)

>>>   Romney projects the appearance of being knowledgable, decisive and a
>>>   wholesome kind of guy. Obama doesn't do so well with the 'decisive'
>>>   but ... tends to try and explain himself too much. Not quite so good
>>>   with the warm and fuzzy stuff either, a bit stiff ....

>>>> Obama's second term will accomplish a lot more than his first did
>>>> because no longer be looking over his shoulder at a second term
>>>> election campaign

>>>   Um ... he got little cooperation from his OWN PARTY these past years.
>>>   That's not going to change. Both parties have just been working
>>>   AROUND him rather than with or through him. Presidents are not
>>>   gawd-emperors you know ... without a cooperative legislature they are
>>>   nearly powerless. You act as if he's gonna dictate what they're gonna
>>>   do - he can't. LBJ could, but he'd been in it long enough to have
>>>   dirt on everybody.
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>> .
>> What would a Romney administration be like? No one knows!

>   But it MUST be better ... it's on the other side
>   of the street where the grass is greener !!!

>   Watch. Wait. See ....

>> Mitt Romney’s campaign insults voters By Editorial Board, Updated:
>> Friday, November 2, 12:34 PM

>> THROUGH ALL THE flip-flops, there has been one consistency in the
>> campaign of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney: a contempt for
>> the electorate.

>   The electorate is too dim to see that.

>   Is that 'contempt' ? Sorry, just reality.

>   'Democracy' is NOT an instrument for finding
>   Truth, NOT a means of making correct decisions ...
>   it's a means of producing POPULAR opinions no
>   matter whether they are correct or logical or
>   sane. In short, 'democracy' is the triumph of
>   the very, very, very 'average' ... know nothings.

>   Churchill said, correctly, that democracy was the
>   worst imaginible form of government, except for
>   all the others. Note this was in no way any sort
>   of endorsement or glorification of democracy, just
>   a note that ultra-crappy seems the best we can do
>   as a species.

>   So ... I'm gonna say that Mitt wins. Not because
>   he's better or smarter or more honest or has any
>   trace of a better plan. He'll win because he's on
>   the other, greener, side of the street as the
>   idiot electorate sees it.

>   And in a few years, assuming there's anything left,
>   they'll imagine they see green across the street again ...

>   This is a serious, SERIOUS, human problem ... something
>   about the way we're wired. It has let the masses be
>   easily manipulated for millenia after millenia. I don't
>   see any fix.