> > > > The biggest factor is something every climate scientist will readily
> > > > admit.  Even if all 9 billion humans were somehow induced to stop
> > > > burning fossil carbon tomorrow the earth would still continue to warm
> > > > for decades.

> > > > So even after making all these nearly impossible to meet concessions
> > > > we would still be facing the costs of ever more extreme weather for
> > > > decades.

> > > > The despotic teabag congress is more likely to toss you a bone than
> > > > Mother Nature.

> > > > Any tragedy of the commons situation requires a political solution.
> > > > Most humans don't think on decades long time scales.  Most voters are
> > > > like infants and want -- and need -- relief _now_, i.e., "I want to
> > > > fuel my SUV _now_, THIS MINUTE!"

> > > > Politicians know this and Bloomberg will go back to being mum on the
> > > > matter even before all the lights are back on in NY.

> > > > The argument against geo engineering solutions is that it is
> > > > unpredictable and not "natural."  Unpredictability is better than
> > > > certain death.  Besides we are in effect already doing something that
> > > > isn't natural.  We are already geo engineering, just not in the right
> > > > direction.

> > > Darwin will provide the solution, in good time.

> > A lot of deniers are like Earth Firsters -- complete contempt for
> > human life.

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> I hope you are the first to freeze in the dark or be eaten alive by a
> wild animal while huddled in a cave