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Subject: Re: AC-130U Gunship was On-Scene in Benghazi, Obama Admin Refused to
Let It Fire
From: "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
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On Oct 29, 7:11=A0am, Joel Edge <joele...@planttel.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:01:29 -0400, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote
> (in article <e48o88l93ob59uqo858pf6mtqqffe25...@6ax.com>):
> > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:39:29 -0700 (PDT), Hell Stomper
> > <stardusth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Posted By Bob Owens On October 26, 2012 @ 9:50 am In Politics | 291
> >> Comments
> >> If you don=92t get torches-and-pitchforks irate about this, you are no=
> >> an American:
> >> The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and
> >> repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is
> >> commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to
> >> Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.
> >> The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours =97
> >> enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles
> >> away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One
> >> Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force
> >> operators.
> >> There were two AC-130Us deployed to Libya in March as part of
> >> Operation Unified Protector.
> >> The AC-130U is a very effective third-generation fire-support
> >> aircraft, capable of continuous and extremely accurate fire onto
> >> multiple targets. It has been used numerous times in Iraq and
> >> Afghanistan to save pinned-down allied forces, and has even been
> >> credited with the surrender of the Taliban city of Kunduz
> >> It was purpose-built for a select number of specific mission types,
> >> including point-defense against enemy attack. It was literally built
> >> for the kind of mission it could have engaged in over Benghazi, if the
> >> administration had let it fire. As the excerpt above clearly shows, we
> >> had assets on the ground =93painting=94 the targets with the laser.
> >> An AC-130U flies in a counter-clockwise =93pivot turn=94 around the
> >> target, with the weapons all aimed out the left side of the aircraft.
> >> There are two state-of-the-art fire-control systems (FCSs) in a
> >> AC-130U, using television sensors,infrared sensors, and synthetic
> >> aperture strike radar. These fire control systems can see through the
> >> dark of night, clouds, and smoke.
> >> The two FCSs on the AC-130U control a 25mm Gatling gun for area
> >> suppression, a precision 40mm cannon, and a 105mm cannon which can
> >> engage hard targets.
> >> What this means is that we have the forces in the air and on the
> >> ground to have stopped the attack at any point, eliminating the
> >> terrorists and saving American lives.
> >> See video of AC-130 engaging in a live fire exercise on next page.
> >> Update (Bryan): Here is an AC-130 engaging in a live fire exercise.
> >> The crackling sound you hear is its extreme rate of fire.
> >> Update: BlackFive confirmed with a retired Delta operator: The fact
> >> that ground personnel were painting the target says there was a
> >> Spectre on station.
> >> Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser
> >> Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from
> >> the report jumped out at me.
> >> One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. =A0That
> >> means that Specter WAS ON STATION! =A0Probably an AC130U. =A0A ground
> >> laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. =A0You do not =93pai=
> >> a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means
> >> that the AC130 was on station.
> >> Only two places could have called off the attack at that point;
> >> the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM
> >> commander based on information directly from the target area.
> >> If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta [sic] says) that
> >> means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.
> >> If that SEAL was actively =93painting=94 a target; something was on
> >> station to engage! =A0And the decision to stand down goes directly to
> >> POTUS!
> >> Article printed from The PJ Tatler:http://pjmedia.com/tatler
> >> URL to article:
> >> i-obama-admin-refused-to-let-it-fire/
> > Bullshit.
> > You ever been on the ground with an AC-130 working out in the
> > neighborhood? =A0It's not a pinpoint weapon system -- it'll take out
> > everything =A0in a football-field sized area.
> > So -- you call in SPECTRE -- what are you going to illuminate with
> > your laser?? =A0You can't illuminate a group of people and have SPECTRE
> > take 'em out. =A0If you try that, you'll kill friendlies within 100
> > meters.
> > It's an AREA weapon system, fool.
> > That's why professionals fight wars, not reporters, not
> > rightwingnutjobs, not desk jockeys, not REMFS.
> > Now crawl back into your fantasy world, go get your X-Box and play
> > Medal of Honor.
> Mmmm...that must be why they don't call in a gunship when friendlies are
> besieged....oh wait, they do. That's the whole point of the weapon.- Hide=
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It would take an A-10 less than 30 minutes to be on station to provide
close air support. A 10 second burst from the Vulcan cannon and the
muzzies would head for the tall grass.