How stupid do progressives have to be to vote for Obama?

[Duh]

All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
they can pretend not to be racists.

[trotsky]

On 7/11/12 12:32 AM, Duh wrote:
> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> they can pretend not to be racists.

And I have yet to see a right wing nutjob say *anything* positive about
Romney. You whine about Obama because the left has a candidate and you
don't. I would have more respect for you guys if you just stopped
pretending and put a pile of dogshit on the GOP ticket.

[cloud dreamer]

On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> they can pretend not to be racists.
>

Insults are a sign of a lost argument.

And a weak debater.

..

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us

[RichA]

On Jul 11, 1:32 am, "Duh" <d...@duh.duh> wrote:
> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> they can pretend not to be racists.

Meanwhile, their kind (urban, elitist, liberal, queers) wouldn't live
within 10 miles of a black enclave.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

So, if you're a leftist and Obama is not your first choice then who do
you vote for?? You're stuck with the worst President since Jimmh
Cottuh. Of course you could always write in the name of your first
choice, Hugo Chavez. Hey, you might get lucky anf Chavez could decide
to run against Obama. You never know.

[Middle Class Warrior]

On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:32:54 AM UTC-4, Duh wrote:
> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> they can pretend not to be racists.

Do you think we will vote for a dumb politicians like Mittens, the white alternative?

Few Democrats will vote for a one per center. Mitt's solutions would be similar to that other one per center, GW Bush.

Double duh!

[emoneyjoe]

Don't be so scared, 8 years with a republican
president won't be like the last 8 years. :-)

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jul 11, 12:32 am, "Duh" <d...@duh.duh> wrote:
> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> they can pretend not to be racists.

Don't you worry: We are voting for the white half.

-Ramon

Latinos say: "We [heart] Obbie!"

[trotsky]

That's the most positive thing anybody has tried to say about Romney.
Naturally, you weren't even able to mention his name, though.

[suzeeq]

Four of the last 8 years did have a republican president....

[emoneyjoe]

You did, you are the politico, keep it up.

[emoneyjoe]

LIMEDIGAF?

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

Of course you won't vote for Romney. For three reasons. #1:He's white
#2: He doesn't hate America #3: He has an (R) in front of his name

Thank God people that share your ideology are in the minority

[Wayne]

"trotsky" wrote in message
news:Nr-dnU0wx94eymDS...@mchsi.com...

On 7/11/12 12:32 AM, Duh wrote:
> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> they can pretend not to be racists.

# And I have yet to see a right wing nutjob say *anything* positive about
# Romney.

OK, here is a positive about Romney, and it happens to be the ONLY relevant
information.
Romney is NOT Obama. It doesn't get much better than that.

[trotsky]

When did you suffer the head trauma?

[trotsky]

Like I said, the GOP would be better off just putting a pile of dogshit
on the ticket.

[pyotr filipivich]

cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> on Wed, 11 Jul 2012
09:42:35 -0230 typed in misc.survivalism the following:

>On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>
>
>
>Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
>
>And a weak debater.
>
> ..

So, what excuse will you give for voting against the Mormon? Aside
from your religious bigotry?
--
pyotr filipivich
Obi-wan once observed"The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded."
Who knew Dubya was a Jedi Knight?

[pyotr filipivich]

"Duh" <d...@duh.duh> on Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:32:54 +0200 typed in
misc.survivalism the following:

>All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>they can pretend not to be racists.

But how can they not vote for the Mormon? I mean, voting for the
Mormon allows them to pretend they are not religious bigots.

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article <UuGdncCSkvblN2DS...@mchsi.com>,

Would that match the DemocRATs' candidate?

[Frank]

They are afraid to do that as Obama would eat it.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> on the ticket.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No can do assface. The dogshit pile is already on the 'Rat ticket, and
you have no other choice. Sucks to be a 'Rat in 2012. (snort)

Biden/Clinton 2016 !! WOOO-HOOOO !!!

[emoneyjoe]

Are you saying you didn't mention his name?

[I Burkett]

Real name Eric Elder. A prolific liar and fraud. Eric runs the gay
blog called "Rightardia.' Card-carrying member of moveon.org, hates
America, hates himself, hates everybody. Note that when you reply to
a Proven Liar you encourage them to continue lying.

Eric Charles Elder (65)
Mary W Elder (60)
1401 Woodgrove Ct
Palm Harbor, FL 34683
(727) 789-2029 [Verizon, land line]

[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

http://rightardia.blogspot.com is Retardia's personal gay blog.

Everyone should avoid it because he is a LIAR:

[Courtesy of Buster Norris]
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:50:03 -0800 (PST), Rightard Whitey
<eel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Bush skated thru the first four years on the Clinton economy. In
>Bush's second term the misguded GOP policies related to starting two
>wars and implementing huge tax cuts tanked the economy. The US was in
>a deep recession by 2007......

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The last year of Bush's second term was dominated by an economic
recession. The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) marked
December 2007, the month with the highest payroll employment numbers,
as the high point of American economic production with output
declining from then on to the present."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration#2008_economic_crisis_and_recession

Posted from:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
http://www.democrathallofshame.com/

[Jerrell Clements]

Ramon is foreign transplant originally from Venezuela, probably a
beaner terrorist, and definitely a Fraud. Ramon F Herrera also goes by
"Cambridge Ray," "Google Poster," "Lucius Sanctimonious," and
"Hadron.".An ultra-left, open-borders pretend-American. He lives and
works in Houston, TX. Note that when you reply to a Proven Liar you

encourage them to continue lying.

Ramon F Herrera
13313 Cutten Rd, Apt 7102
Houston, TX 77069-2374

[][][][][][]
The DemocRAT Hall Of Shame http://www.democrathallofshame.com/ asks
"Why do you always LIE?"

On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:42:35 -0800 (PST), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>New Orleans DA Jim Garrison brought up the only case about the JFK
>assassination.
>He won his case. The one that matters, anyway.

Oops! Caught lying...

"New Orleans D.A. Jim Garrison began an investigation into the
assassination of President Kennedy in late 1966, after receiving
several tips from Jack Martin that a man named David Ferrie may have
been involved in the assassination. The end result of Garrison's
investigation was the arrest and trial of New Orleans businessman Clay
Shaw in 1969, with Shaw being unanimously acquitted less than one hour
after the case went to the jury.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Garrison

>Members of the jury: "We are convinced that president Kennedy's death
>was the result of a conspiracy. However, we did not have anywhere near
>enough evidence to confirm that Mr. Shaw was a participant".

Oops! Caught lying...

There is no such quote...

[Leo Defranco]

On 11 Jul 2012, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> posted some
news:it8rv7l0ejdc92f2l...@4ax.com:

> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> on Wed, 11 Jul 2012
> 09:42:35 -0230 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>>On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
>>
>>And a weak debater.
>>
>> ..
> So, what excuse will you give for voting against the Mormon?
> Aside
> from your religious bigotry?

I didn't know Canadians could vote in American elections. Oh. Silly me.
It's an Obama election. Of course they can...along with people dead for
the last 100 years, cartoon characters and illegal immigrants.

[Harold Burton]

In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,

cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:

> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
> > All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> > they can pretend not to be racists.
> >
>
>
> Insults are a sign of a lost argument.

Must be why so many leftards called President Bush a war criminal


> And a weak debater.



Indeed.

[emoneyjoe]

And cats and dogs are registered. :-)

[V Plane]

On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:

The socialist fem Canadians have a really distorted view of reality.
Especially that one.

[pyotr filipivich]

Leo Defranco <inv...@not-for-mail.invalid> on Thu, 12 Jul 2012
02:28:01 +0000 (UTC) typed in misc.survivalism the following:

Reminds me of a parody radio ad for a Used Car dealer.

"Friend! are you out of work? in debt? a problem drinker, a
shut-in?! Friend, are you legally dead? I don't care!"

The Democrats are pretty much the same when it comes to voting: no
ID required. Want to go listen to Eric Holder talk about how terrible
Voter ID laws are - you're going to have to show some photo ID.
Democrats are able to "crimestop" on a dime.

tschus
pyotr


crimestop - Orwell's definition: "The faculty of stopping short, as
though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It
includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive
logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are
inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of
thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. In
short....protective stupidity."

[trotsky]

The one the GOP can't stop talking about? Are you on crack? Whose
crack are you on?

[trotsky]

I'm sure that makes sense on your home planet.

[trotsky]

On 7/11/12 7:35 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E wrote:

> On Jul 11, 5:37 am, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
>> On 7/11/12 12:32 AM, Duh wrote:
>>
>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>

>> And I have yet to see a right wing nutjob say *anything* positive about

>> Romney. You whine about Obama because the left has a candidate and you
>> don't. I would have more respect for you guys if you just stopped

>> pretending and put a pile of dogshit on the GOP ticket.
>
> So, if you're a leftist and Obama is not your first choice then who do
> you vote for?? You're stuck with the worst President since Jimmh
> Cottuh.


Yes, both Nobel Prize winners. Let's see, the Nobel Prize committee
versus some guy on the internet--damn that's a tough choice!

[QUEST]

"Duh" wrote in message
news:9308dbe98fa42099...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...

All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
they can pretend not to be racists.

-------------------------------------------------------

And if you were old enough I bet you would vote for that other guy, you
know, the one even real Republicans don't want to vote for.

[cloud dreamer]

On 12/07/2012 1:40 AM, V Plane wrote:
> On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
> news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:
>
>> In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,
>> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
>>
>>
>> Must be why so many leftards called President Bush a war criminal

It's true. He started a war on false pretenses and more than a million
Iraqis died.

>>
>>
>>> And a weak debater.
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed.
>
> The socialist fem Canadians have a really distorted view of reality.
> Especially that one.
>

I see reality fine.

..


--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us

[cloud dreamer]

Rhetoric doesn't do anything for your argument.

And an excuse for an American not to vote for Romney? How about his
hypocrisy over Obamacare? How about his hypocrisy for promising to
create jobs while shipping them offshore?

[Frank]

He ate dog - he'll eat anything related to it.

[trotsky]

Ibid.

[trotsky]

On 7/12/12 7:45 AM, Frank wrote:

Porn probably makes sense to a Mormon: they're looking for multiple
sexual partners too.

[George Plimpton]

On 7/12/2012 3:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 7/11/12 7:35 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 5:37 am, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/11/12 12:32 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>
>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>
>>> And I have yet to see a right wing nutjob say *anything* positive about
>>> Romney. You whine about Obama because the left has a candidate and you
>>> don't. I would have more respect for you guys if you just stopped
>>> pretending and put a pile of dogshit on the GOP ticket.
>>
>> So, if you're a leftist and Obama is not your first choice then who do
>> you vote for?? You're stuck with the worst President since Jimmh
>> Cottuh.
>
>
> Yes, both Nobel Prize winners.

The Nobel Peace prize is now officially a joke. It doesn't mean anything.

[Jeff M]

On 7/12/2012 7:10 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
> On 12/07/2012 1:40 AM, V Plane wrote:
>> On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
>> news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:
>>
>>> In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,
>>> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>>>
>>>> Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
>>>
>>> Must be why so many leftards called President Bush a war criminal
>
> It's true. He started a war on false pretenses and more than a million
> Iraqis died.

George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush administration
officials are, in fact, convicted war criminals.

There can be no rational dispute that they intentionally, repeatedly and
systematically violated our own federal laws as well as the laws of war,
the Geneva Conventions and other international treaties, not to mention
the established norms of western civilization and common human decency.
In the process, they have left an indelible stain on our national honor.

[Harold Burton]

In article <1budnYpVLJvWd2PS...@giganews.com>,

Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:

> On 7/12/2012 7:10 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
> > On 12/07/2012 1:40 AM, V Plane wrote:
> >> On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
> >> news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:
> >>
> >>> In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,
> >>> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
> >>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> >>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
> >>>
> >>> Must be why so many leftards called President Bush a war criminal
> >
> > It's true. He started a war on false pretenses and more than a million
> > Iraqis died.
>
> George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush administration
> officials are, in fact, convicted war criminals.

And so are Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Harry Truman, and Franklin
Roosevelt.


snicker

[Harold Burton]

In article <MoWdnQk_Nad3QmPS...@giganews.com>,

It became a joke 39 years ago, confirmed as a joke 34 years ago, again
confirmed as a joke 18 years ago. 3 and 5 years ago are just more of
the same.

[Max Boot]

On 7/12/2012 8:19 AM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 7/12/2012 7:10 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
>> On 12/07/2012 1:40 AM, V Plane wrote:
>>> On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
>>> news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,
>>>> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
>>>>
>>>> Must be why so many leftards called President Bush a war criminal
>>
>> It's true. He started a war on false pretenses and more than a million
>> Iraqis died.
>
> George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush administration
> officials are, in fact, convicted war criminals.

Not convicted in any court of competent jurisdiction, of course. Your
claim is simply nothing more than stale leftist rhetoric - null and void.

[Jeff M]

Obviously, you don't know what that term means, and you're wrong, as well.

> Your
> claim is simply nothing more than stale leftist rhetoric - null and void.

My statement, which with typical rightard cowardice you snipped out, is
undeniable fact. Your ineffectual attempt to deny established fact is
merely a display of your own dishonesty or capacity for self-delusion,
nothing more.

There can be no rational dispute that George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald
Rumsfeld and other Bush administration officials intentionally,

[Max Boot]

On 7/12/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 7/12/2012 12:36 PM, Max Boot wrote:
>> On 7/12/2012 8:19 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 7/12/2012 7:10 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
>>>> On 12/07/2012 1:40 AM, V Plane wrote:
>>>>> On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
>>>>> news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,
>>>>>> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>>>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>>>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Must be why so many leftards called President Bush a war criminal
>>>>
>>>> It's true. He started a war on false pretenses and more than a million
>>>> Iraqis died.
>>>
>>> George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush administration
>>> officials are, in fact, convicted war criminals.
>>
>> Not convicted in any court of competent jurisdiction, of course.
>
> Obviously, you don't know what that term means,

I do know what it means, obviously.

> and you're wrong, as well.

I'm right. No competent court with jurisdiction to conduct such a trial
has done so.

>
>> Your
>> claim is simply nothing more than stale leftist rhetoric - null and void.
>
> My statement, which with typical rightard

You just gave it away. Your claim was nothing but stale leftist rhetoric.

[Max Boot]

The prosecution occurred at the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal
Foundation, a *private* organization chartered under Malaysian
law. It has no endorsement from any government worldwide and is
anything but an institution of global acclaim, but it is still
very significant because it has been created by those with power
to persuade the ICC.

It's going nowhere. It's nothing but flatulence in the jungle.

[Max Boot]

Here's more from the same so-called "source", technorati.com - an
absurdly extremist left-wing site:

One of the most revealing things about this development, however,
is that the mainstream press in the US and UK have not touched it.
At all. Not one spillage of ink, kb of information or second of
airtime. CNN, the BBC, Newsweek, ABC, the London Times. The list
could be as long as this article. The only major news source [sic]
to touch it has been The Real News Network [obviously *NOT* a
"major" news source, ha ha ha ha ha!]. I would rush to say that
this display is some bizarre double-standard or moral evasion by
the mainstream press, but it’s not as if these stations have been
quiet about news that criticizes the war previously.

http://technorati.com/politics/article/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes/


The reason no reputable news entity has "touched" it is because they can
see and smell obvious bullshit.

[N...@gmail.com]

I corrected you post. No need to thank me.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 04:10:38 +0000 (UTC), V Plane
<inv...@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

>On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
>news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:
>
>> In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,
>> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:

>>> > All republican are stupid, but most will vote for Romney so

[emoneyjoe]

Just because you do something doesn't
mean everybody does.

[emoneyjoe]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:34:13 -0500, "QUEST" <youbet...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Wait and see...........

[Jeff M]

On 7/12/2012 1:01 PM, Max Boot wrote:
> On 7/12/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 7/12/2012 12:36 PM, Max Boot wrote:
>>> On 7/12/2012 8:19 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/2012 7:10 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
>>>>> On 12/07/2012 1:40 AM, V Plane wrote:
>>>>>> On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
>>>>>> news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,
>>>>>>> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>>>>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Must be why so many leftards called President Bush a war criminal
>>>>>
>>>>> It's true. He started a war on false pretenses and more than a
million
>>>>> Iraqis died.
>>>>
>>>> George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush
administration
>>>> officials are, in fact, convicted war criminals.
>>>
>>> Not convicted in any court of competent jurisdiction, of course.
>>
>> Obviously, you don't know what that term means,
>
> I do know what it means, obviously.

No you don't.

>> and you're wrong, as well.
>
> I'm right.

Repeating yourself doesn't make it so.

>>> Your
>>> claim is simply nothing more than stale leftist rhetoric
>

> I just gave it away. My denial of facts was nothing but stale
rightard rhetoric.

Right you are, at last. [with some help from me]

[Jeff M]

On 7/12/2012 1:08 PM, Max Boot wrote:
> On 7/12/2012 11:01 AM, Max Boot wrote:
>> On 7/12/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 7/12/2012 12:36 PM, Max Boot wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/2012 8:19 AM, Jeff M wrote:
>>>>> On 7/12/2012 7:10 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/07/2012 1:40 AM, V Plane wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted

Nope. It's officially a criminal conviction, not the one they deserve,
but a conviction nonetheless, after what we can only hope is the first
of many trials to come.

You are ignorant of international law. There are a variety of courts,
tribunals and commissions exercising universal jurisdiction over war
crimes cases. Of course, many in the U.S., particularly right-wingers,
deny that the such courts have any jurisdiction, and try to pretend that
the International Criminal Court; the International Court of Justice;
the International Military Tribunal, a.k.a., the Nuremberg Court; the
International Military Tribunal for the Far East; the International
Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia; the International Criminal
Tribunal for Rwanda; and several others didn't, don't and never existed.
But they do, and their influence and reach is growing.

Furthermore, a number of states claim, have claimed, or recognize
universal jurisdiction for offenses such as piracy or war crimes,
including Canada, Australia, Spain, France, and Belgium, and have
prosecuted war criminals under it. So Bush and Co. join the likes of
Augusto Pinochet of Argentina, who was extradited from Britain to stand
trial in Spain; various African and Latin American warlords, some of
whom are currently in prison in Belgium and elsewhere, and, most
famously, Adolph Eichmann, who was taken from Argentina and tried,
convicted and executed in Israel, all tried under various forms of
universal jurisdiction, just as Bush, et al. were.

Of course, The main problem in such proceedings is always enforcement,
and the tribunal has reportedly referred it's findings to the
International Court of Justice. But these courts typically look to
state powers for enforcement, so the odds of that Bush and his
co-conspirators will be punished in this life is very low.

So many senior Justice Department officials were complicit in the crimes
that the Department of Justice, which had been highly politicized during
the Bush years, could not be expected to prosecute their own bosses. A
number of foreign states expressed some interest in prosecuting, as
well, but they are mostly close US allies and would have nothing to gain
and much to lose, with no hope that the US would extradite the criminals
to face justice, either.

Perhaps John Ashcroft expressed the situation best, when in a White
House meeting with other co-conspirators to approve specific torture
methods, he observed "Why are we talking about this in the White House?
History will not judge this kindly."

I believe that they will all eventually answer in a Higher court, where
they will finally be judged for all their deeds. In the meantime,
Ashcroft was correct - history has judged them, and found them guilty.

[Max Boot]

It's nothing. It's a private club engaging in a silly circle-jerk.
It's truly nothing - no legal weight to it whatever.

[Rockinghorse Winner]

A. Pretty stupid. :\


Terry
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"Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls |/
drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own |/ Gentoo Linux
despair, against our will, comes wisdom through |/
the awful grace of God." -Aeschylus |/

[Jeff M]

On 7/12/2012 4:12 PM, Max Boot wrote:

Nothing worth reading

[unless you happen to enjoy reading the juvenile whining of an ignorant
punk who's still pointlessly carrying on long after he lost the original
argument]

[Max Boot]

On 7/12/2012 2:25 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 7/12/2012 4:12 PM, Max Boot wrote:
>

> [stuff jeffy m fearfully can't address]

Concession of defeat acknowledged and accepted.

Rather remarkably, you didn't call anyone racist in making your getaway.
That's what leftists usually do.

[Frank]

1994 - Yasser Arafat.
At least their prizes in science are still legit.

[Harold Burton]

In article <jtnipd$8jr$1...@dont-email.me>,

That's because the committee that awards science prizes usually waits
quite a few years to be sure that what they're rewarding is legitimate.

If science prizes were awarded like the Peace Prize, Pons and
Fleischmann would have won one. :-)

[pyotr filipivich]

"Duh" <d...@duh.duh> on Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:32:54 +0200 typed in
misc.survivalism the following:

>All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>they can pretend not to be racists.

How stupid will progressives have to be to vote for Obama? Not
any more than they were to be progressives in the first place.

But not all progressives are stupid. Some of them are smart, just
not honest. Two out of three.


tschus
pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
Obi-wan once observed"The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded."
Who knew Dubya was a Jedi Knight?

[greylock]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:15:55 -0400, N...@gmail.com wrote:

>I corrected you post. No need to thank me.
>

Is English not your first language?

Apparently you ARE stupid enough to vote for Obama (or at least claim
to do so, since not having English as your first language might well
indicate a lack of citizenship), so I will not hold out hope of
bringing any semblance of illumination to your dark cavern of abysmal
ignorance.

But you might try to spare a brain cell or two to contemplate why
Obammy's political allies have been the ones to profit from his
largess with tax money he manifestly shouldn't have distributing to
them - it's called theft, by the way - unless you're just one more
Democratic Party thug.

[Bill Gaffney]

In article <1budnYpVLJvWd2PS...@giganews.com>

Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:
>
> On 7/12/2012 7:10 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:
> > On 12/07/2012 1:40 AM, V Plane wrote:
> >> On 11 Jul 2012, Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> posted some
> >> news:hal.i.burton-4D6A...@news.newsguy.com:
> >>
> >>> In article <7-mdnZLmFvc28GDS...@supernews.com>,
> >>> cloud dreamer <TJM...@really.small.penis> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/07/2012 3:02 AM, Duh wrote:
> >>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
> >>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Insults are a sign of a lost argument.
> >>>
> >>> Must be why so many leftards called President Bush a war criminal
> >
> > It's true. He started a war on false pretenses and more than a million
> > Iraqis died.
>
> George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush administration
> officials are, in fact, convicted war criminals.

Obama will have to give back his Nobel piece of shit prize since
he's killed more people in Afghanistan than Bush did.

[N...@gmail.com]

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:08:36 -0500, greylock <greyl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:15:55 -0400, N...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>I corrected you post. No need to thank me.
>>
>
>Is English not your first language?
>
>Apparently you ARE stupid enough to vote for Obama (or at least claim
>to do so, since not having English as your first language might well
>indicate a lack of citizenship), so I will not hold out hope of
>bringing any semblance of illumination to your dark cavern of abysmal
>ignorance.

But then unlike you I won't vote for a felon who will be in jail for
five years for lying on the SEC forms (a felony)

Oh and you're ignoring all the corporate welfare.

[Ubiquitous]

d...@duh.duh wrote:

>All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>they can pretend not to be racists.

Nah, they're just ignorant.

And you posted this off-topic article here because?

--
"If Barack Obama isn't careful, he will become the Jimmy Carter of the
21st century."

[trotsky]

I'm sure the Theory of Relativity doesn't mean anything to you
either--your point?

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:37:55 -0500, trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:

>On 7/11/12 12:32 AM, Duh wrote:
>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>
>
>And I have yet to see a right wing nutjob say *anything* positive about
>Romney. You whine about Obama because the left has a candidate and you
>don't. I would have more respect for you guys if you just stopped
>pretending and put a pile of dogshit on the GOP ticket.
>

Like the pile of dogshit on the DNC ticket?

You really happy with dogshit? Is that your admission?

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

[Gunner Asch]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:19:08 -0500, trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:

>On 7/11/12 7:35 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E wrote:

>> On Jul 11, 5:37 am, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/11/12 12:32 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>
>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>
>>> And I have yet to see a right wing nutjob say *anything* positive about
>>> Romney. You whine about Obama because the left has a candidate and you
>>> don't. I would have more respect for you guys if you just stopped
>>> pretending and put a pile of dogshit on the GOP ticket.
>>

>> So, if you're a leftist and Obama is not your first choice then who do
>> you vote for?? You're stuck with the worst President since Jimmh
>> Cottuh.
>
>

>Yes, both Nobel Prize winners. Let's see, the Nobel Prize committee
>versus some guy on the internet--damn that's a tough choice!

It certainly is. The DNC could have run Arafat and you would love it.

Despit him being a terrorist and all....shrug

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:29:04 -0600, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:

>emoneyjoe wrote:

>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:37:55 -0500, trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/11/12 12:32 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>
>>> And I have yet to see a right wing nutjob say *anything* positive about
>>> Romney. You whine about Obama because the left has a candidate and you
>>> don't. I would have more respect for you guys if you just stopped
>>> pretending and put a pile of dogshit on the GOP ticket.
>>

>> Don't be so scared, 8 years with a republican
>> president won't be like the last 8 years. :-)
>
>Four of the last 8 years did have a republican president....

And of those 8 yrs..5 were with a Democrat controlled Congress..where
all the laws and spending comes from. Having 3 of them being shepherded
by a Democrat president...simply adds drizzle in the skivies

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 14 Jul 2012 10:26:27 -0700

typed in misc.survivalism the following:

>On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:19:08 -0500, trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
>
>>On 7/11/12 7:35 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E wrote:
>>> On Jul 11, 5:37 am, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/12 12:32 AM, Duh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All progressives are stupid, but most will vote for Obama so
>>>>> they can pretend not to be racists.
>>>>
>>>> And I have yet to see a right wing nutjob say *anything* positive about
>>>> Romney. You whine about Obama because the left has a candidate and you
>>>> don't. I would have more respect for you guys if you just stopped
>>>> pretending and put a pile of dogshit on the GOP ticket.
>>>
>>> So, if you're a leftist and Obama is not your first choice then who do
>>> you vote for?? You're stuck with the worst President since Jimmh
>>> Cottuh.
>>
>>
>>Yes, both Nobel Prize winners. Let's see, the Nobel Prize committee
>>versus some guy on the internet--damn that's a tough choice!
>
>It certainly is. The DNC could have run Arafat and you would love it.
>
>Despit him being a terrorist and all....

... dead and everything.

I mean, if the dead can vote, why not run for office?

tschus
pyotr


p.s. shouldn't cross posting to alt.stupidity, alt.california, and
rec.arts.tv, be considered redundant?

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:35:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>>>Yes, both Nobel Prize winners. Let's see, the Nobel Prize committee
>>>versus some guy on the internet--damn that's a tough choice!
>>
>>It certainly is. The DNC could have run Arafat and you would love it.
>>
>>Despit him being a terrorist and all....
>
> ... dead and everything.
>
> I mean, if the dead can vote, why not run for office?

Oddly enough...they do

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/03/jenny-oropeza-wins-califo_n_778113.html

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Democrats-Still-Push-for-Win-in-28th-District-State-Senate-Race--106579728.html

A week after her death, Democrats sent out mailers to residents, calling
for voters to still reelect Oropeza. The mailers featured Secretary of
State Debra Bowen and Democratic Party general counsel Martha Escutia.

Republicans responded to the mailers, filing a complaint that the
pamphlets were too similar to official election documents and were
confusing voters, violating California law. Stammreich and GOP Chairman
Ron Nehring filed the complaint.

"The Republicans are trying to take unfair advantage of Jenny's
tragedy," the mailer reads, according to the Los Angeles Times. "They
suggest that voting for Jenny will only result in a costly Special
Election. I am asking you to vote for Jenny Oropeza. If a Special
Election is called in a few months, you'll have the chance to
thoughtfully elect your Senator for a new four-year term

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:02:21 -0700

typed in misc.survivalism the following:

>On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:35:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich
><ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Yes, both Nobel Prize winners. Let's see, the Nobel Prize committee
>>>>versus some guy on the internet--damn that's a tough choice!
>>>
>>>It certainly is. The DNC could have run Arafat and you would love it.
>>>
>>>Despit him being a terrorist and all....
>>
>> ... dead and everything.
>>
>> I mean, if the dead can vote, why not run for office?
>
>
>Oddly enough...they do
>
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/03/jenny-oropeza-wins-califo_n_778113.html
>
>http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Democrats-Still-Push-for-Win-in-28th-District-State-Senate-Race--106579728.html
>
>A week after her death, Democrats sent out mailers to residents, calling
>for voters to still reelect Oropeza. The mailers featured Secretary of
>State Debra Bowen and Democratic Party general counsel Martha Escutia.
>
>Republicans responded to the mailers, filing a complaint that the
>pamphlets were too similar to official election documents and were
>confusing voters, violating California law. Stammreich and GOP Chairman
>Ron Nehring filed the complaint.
>
>"The Republicans are trying to take unfair advantage of Jenny's
>tragedy," the mailer reads, according to the Los Angeles Times. "They
>suggest that voting for Jenny will only result in a costly Special
>Election. I am asking you to vote for Jenny Oropeza. If a Special
>Election is called in a few months, you'll have the chance to
>thoughtfully elect your Senator for a new four-year term

Yeah, well, dying during the campaign is one thing.

Being dead when you file for the office is another.

[Obama's Missing Jobs]

In article <6u4uv713fotctfvnj...@4ax.com>

N...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I corrected you post. No need to thank me.

Do you think you accomplished anything? Obama certainly hasn't.

[trotsky]

On 7/16/12 3:41 AM, Obama's Missing Jobs wrote:
> In article <6u4uv713fotctfvnj...@4ax.com>
> N...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I corrected you post. No need to thank me.
>
> Do you think you accomplished anything? Obama certainly hasn't.

http://obamaachievements.org/

Care to guess again?

[cloud dreamer]

Oh don't crush his view of Obama with facts!!! You know how they love to
rely on lies....like these debunked myths about Obamacare:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/opinion/keller-five-obamacare-myths.html?_r=1&smid=fb-share

..

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us