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QUESTIONNAIRE FOR MUSLIMS SEEKING U.S. CITIZENSHIP

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Questionnaire for Muslims seeking U.S. Citizenship

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

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US Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services

Questionnaire for Muslims seeking U.S. Citizenship

Note: Qur'an verses may not have the identical Surah (chapter) number
in different translations of Muhammad's book. There is no standard
numbering system as there is for the Bible. However, all translations
include the same verses, and if a passage is not found in one place
it exists elsewhere in the text. Surahs are always numbered exactly
the same. Different translations will make use of somewhat different
word choice in the English language, but the meaning is always the
same or very close to exactly the same.

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(1) The Constitution of the United States requires equal legal
rights for men and women. This means that the testimony of one woman
counts exactly the same as that for one man in a court of law. There
are no possible exceptions to this rule for any American citizen.
Qur'an, Surah 2: 282 says, in part: "call in to witness from among
your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man
and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses..."
This is the basis for Shariah law which holds that in all cases of
law the testimony of two women is necessary to equal that of one man.

Do you repudiate the principle in the Qur'an which requires that it
takes the testimony of two women to equal the testimony of one man in
a law court?

YES
NO

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(2) US Law does not tolerate wife beating and regards it as a crime.

Qur'an, Surah 4: 34 says: "Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend
out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient,
guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded. But as to those women on
whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone
in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not
seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great"

Do you repudiate the teaching in the Qur'an which approves wife
beating?

YES
NO

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(3) Cruel and unusual punishment in illegal by provisions of the
US Constitution.

This includes such retribution as physical mutilation and injury to
the body.

Quran, Surah 5: 38 "As for the thief, both male and female, cut off
their hands. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary
punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise."

Surah 5: 33 "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah
and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief
through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of
hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land:"

Do you repudiate all verses in the Qur'an which demand cruel
and unusual punishment?

YES
NO

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(4) The age of marriage varies by state, but in all cases requires
that a wife should be of child bearing age, that is, she should be
post-pubescent, generally 15 or 16 years of age minimum, 17 or 18 in
other jurisdictions.

Qur'an, Surah 65: 4 "As for your women who have despaired of further
menstruating, if you are in doubt, then their waiting period is three
months as well as those who have not yet menstruated. As for those
who are pregnant, their term shall be the time they deliver their
burden. Allah will ease (matters) by His order for whosoever fears
Him."

As a Muslim scholar named Maududi has said in his official
interpretation of this verse:

"Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have
not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible
to give away the girl at this age but it is permissible for the
husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has
the right to forbid a thing which the Qur'an has held as
permissible."

Do you repudiate this verse in the Qur'an which regards child
marriage as approved, which American law regards as a form of child
molestation?

YES
NO

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(5) The 13th Amendment to the US Constitution explicitly outlaws
slavery in all forms, male or female.

Qur'an, Surah 4: 92 "And it does not behoove a believer to kill a
believer except by mistake, and whoever kills a believer by mistake,
he should free a believing slave, and blood-money should be paid, but
he who cannot find a slave should fast for two months successively."
As scholars have pointed out, this verse assumes that Muslims will
own slaves, or a significant number will, as did Muhammad, who owned
slaves and bought and sold them. This is just one verse out of dozens
that approve the institution of slavery and present in as an eternal
condition of humanity.

Do you repudiate all verses in the Qur'an which approve slavery?

YES
NO

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(6) Hate speech is objectionable in American culture, and federal
law regards such language as legally actionable, deserving
punishment. While there are various categories of hate speech,
general agreement is that anti-Semitism is the worst such offense.

Qur'an, Surah 5: 60 - 65, says in part, speaking specifically of Jews
as verse 59 makes clear, "Those whom God has cursed and with whom He
has been angry, he has transformed them into apes and pigs, and those
who serve the devil"

This is the source of Muslim demonstrators' signs and chants that
Jews are apes and pigs -- the Qur'an itself. There are still other
passages in Muhammad's book which also are anti-Semitic -- as the
term is generally used in America to refer to anti-Jewish bigotry.

Do you repudiate all anti-Semitic hate speech in the Qur'an,
especially verse 60 of Surah 5?

YES
NO

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(7) War or any acts of physical violence, or threat of violence,
with the intention of forcing people to convert to a religion is
utterly abhorrent to American law and is explicitly outlawed by the
First Amendment.

Qur'an, Surah 8: 12 "Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the
message): "I am with you:

give firmness to the Muslims, I will instill terror into the hearts
of the unbelievers.

Smite them on their necks and cut all their fingers off."

This is one of 164 jihad verses in Muhammad's book. Of this number
approximately 100 are commandments to able-bodied Muslim men to
physically fight against non-Muslims.

The remaining 64 verses deal with inner struggle, etc, and are not
the subject here.

Generations of Muslim authorities leave zero room to doubt that war
or other forms of physical violence on behalf of Islam, with the
objective being forced conversion of non-Muslims, is commanded and is
not an option. In most cases the "cover" -- rationalization -- for
such aggression is the pretext that these should be defensive
campaigns.

Except that, from the outset, while Muhammad was still alive and a
leader in jihad, few if any jihads were defensive at all and were
only claimed to be, because Muslims were offended that other people
would not willingly surrender to their armies when invaded.

That is, there is no reasonable doubt that the meaning of the 100
jihad verses in question all promote violence against people of other
faiths. The main objective is conversion but also important is
terrorizing others so that they fear the wrath of Muslims.

Do you repudiate all jihad verses in the Qur'an which command Muslims
to fight against non-Muslims with the objective of converting other
people to Islam?

YES
NO

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(8) The First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion to all US
citizens. No-one may prohibit someone from changing religion, or
ceasing to belong to a religion. No-one may prohibit someone, in any
appropriate setting, from seeking to convince someone else of the
rightness of his or her faith and seeking to win converts. No
believers of any faith are exempt from this provision of the First
Amendment.

Qur'an, Surah 4:88-89 "Then what is the matter with you that you
are divided into two parties about the hypocrites? Allah has cast
them back (to disbelief )... Do you want to guide him whom Allah has
made go astray?... They wish that you reject (Islam), and thus that
you all become equal (like any other faith). So, take not...
(friends) from them, till they emigrate in the way of Allah (to
Muhammad). But if they turn away (from Islam), take hold of them
and kill them wherever you find them." One of several verses which
deal with what Muslims characterize as apostasy. The penalty for what
Americans insist is a God-given right, to free choice in religion,
is death in an Islamic context.

Do you repudiate all apostasy verses in the Qur'an and uphold the
principle of free choice in religion?

YES
NO

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(9) In America, free speech is sacrosanct and, while a people have
the right to object to criticisms of their beliefs, and while others
must obey libel or slander laws, everyone who so desires is free to
make any criticisms of religion he or she wishes to make. This is
considered a moral good when one's motivation is making the truth
widely known. It does not matter if a truth is popular or unpopular ;
honesty is the higher virtue by far, indeed, there is no real
contest.

Qur'an, Surah 4: 140 "Allah will collect the hypocrites and those
who defy faith -and put them in Hell." This is one verse which is
foundational to Shariah law penalizing all forms of what Muslims
characterize as "blasphemy." Depending on the "offense" and what
country such law is enforced in, the punishment may be anything from
jail time or banishment, to death.

What qualifies as blasphemy? A few examples--criticizing Islam making
jokes about Muhammad or the Qur'an criticizing the Qur'an, which is
regarded by Muslims as Allah's exact words incarnate on Earth
asserting that the Qur'an was written by Muhammad rather than a
transcription of Allah's words, for example, calling the Qur'an
"Muhammad's book." criticizing Muhammad, especially perceived insults
of Muhammad criticizing such Muslim practices as saying prayers 5
times a day, prostrate on the floor reporting objective facts that
embarrass Muslims, such as the fact that Muhammad married Aisha, a
girl of 6 and consummated the "marriage" when she was 9. creating an
image of Muhammad or portraying him with an actor in a movie or stage
play claiming to be a prophet

The last item makes all Mormons guilty of blasphemy since all male
Mormons are considered prophets by their church and all Mormon women
accept this belief. One or more items make Christian missionaries who
express honest opinions about the Qur'an or Muhammad guilty of the
"crime" of blasphemy who, in some countries, with Pakistan being
especially notorious, are killed. Indeed, considering these types of
"blasphemy" alone, each, by American law, is a form of protected
speech to which all US citizens are entitled.

Do you repudiate all anti-blasphemy laws in Shariah, those derived
directly from the Quran as well as those derived from Hadith
traditions?

YES
NO

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(10) The First Amendment guarantees freedom to worship any deity of
your choice. Or freedom to be an Agnostic or Atheist. You may worship
100 Gods or Goddesses, or just one, or none at all. All US citizens
accept this principle but are free to express their opinions if they
think someone else's beliefs are wrong.

Qur'an 4: 116 "Verily Allah does not forgive setting up partners in
worship with Him. But He forgives whom he pleases, sins other than
that." To be devoted to a Goddess, in other words, is, in Islam, the
unforgivable sin. Also extremely serious is 2: 28, "How do you
disbelieve in Allah, seeing that you were dead and he gave you life!
Then he will cause you to die..."

In other words, Goddess worship deserves death according to Islam,
and Atheists also deserve death. In some Muslim lands capital
punishment for these "offenses" are de jure carried out.

Almost all Hindus are devotees of one or more Goddesses, so are most
Mahayana Buddhists in Japan and elsewhere. Taoists venerate a
Goddess, as do Zoroastrians (Anahita) and traditional Pagans such as
those in the Baltic states and rural Russia. So do Wiccans and most
other neo-Pagans. Islam considers Catholics and the Greek Orthodox as
Goddess worshippers for their devotion to Mary, and the Mormons
worship the Heavenly Mother as well as the Heavenly Father. Plus
there are normative Christian groups, like Assyrian Christians, who
adhere formally to usual Church doctrine but who informally venerate
the Goddess Ishtar. Altogether, about 2 billion people in the world
can be classified as Goddess devotees, closer to 3 billion if you add
Catholics and the Orthodox.

A reasonable estimate is that, including Mormons, about 15 or 20
million Americans are Goddess devotees of one kind or another. And
all deserve the full protection of American law as guaranteed by the
First Amendment.

Do you repudiate all passages in the Qur'an that demand death or
other extreme punishment for Atheists and Goddess devotees?

YES
NO

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There are numerous other morally reprehensible passages in the
Qur'an, all of which contravene American law and the freedoms
guaranteed in the Constitution. These ten examples are sufficient to
make the criminality of Islam crystal clear, however, and to argue
the point that Islam in any orthodox form should be criminalized in
the United States. In other words, Islam should be outlawed in much
the same way as Communism and Nazism were outlawed in the mid 20th
century.

There might be exceptions for some Sufi schools or some Ahmadiyya
groups, to speak of people who have already rejected objectionable
parts of the Quran, and as for MINOs, Muslims In Name Only, there is
no real objection, but otherwise Islam should be recognized for what
it is, a subversive and criminal religion that functions in outright
defiance of American law and which is based on principles which are
totally incompatible with the US Constitution.

Islam, to discuss people who actually believe in the Qur'an, promotes
physical violence against non-Muslims, it seeks to intimidate others
through threats of violence, it promotes hate speech, and generally
can be thought of as an organized mental illness. As we all know,
from daily news stories in the press and TV, this is a matter of
actions that kill people, that threaten citizens of many countries
that simply wish to live in peace, and that incite outrages against
"unbelievers" through hate speech.

To be very sure, Muslims may deny each and every fact about their
travesty of a religion presented here. About which there are two
basic rejoinders,

First, anyone familiar with the fact that the Qur'an is really two
books in one, the Mecca Surahs and the Medina Surahs, can tell you,
if he or she is honest, that most of the "good" teachings in the
Qur'an date to Muhammad's years in Mecca, when he preached tolerance
and a form of morality which resembled that of Judaism or
Christianity. However, in the Medina years, partly by use of the
doctrine of abrogation, which nullified earlier verses at will, of
which well over a hundred Mecca verses were repudiated as obsolete,
what resulted was a religion that some scholars compare with
Bolshevism and others consider to be an early form of Nazism.
Personally the comparison with Nazism seems most accurate given the
fact that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem spent the WWII years in the
Third Reich and organized regiments of Bosnian Muslims to fight in
the ranks of the SS, and considering the fact that the Muslim
Brotherhood, the "parent" of Al Qaeda and still other terrorist
groups, was funded by the Nazis and was their political inspiration.

Second, there is a "slight detail" called the doctrine of taqiyya --
lying in order to further the interests of Islam. At least two Qur'an
verses are fairly explicit about this, Surah 3: 28 and Surah 16: 106.
The gist of things is that Muslims are free to tell others falsehoods
about Islam if they think it will protect Muslims or their property,
are free to misrepresent Islam, are free to camouflage their actual
purposes behind a cloak of good works, etc. In other words, Muslims
simply cannot be trusted to tell the truth about their religion.

But the truth is there to be seen, and anyone who so desires can
study the Qur'an and read its collection of criminal precepts any
time it is convenient to do so.

Not my problem if someone simply can't be bothered to do so, or
prefers cock-and-bull stories manufactured by simpletons like Karen
Armstrong and purveyed by charlatans like George W Bush or Barack
Hussein Obama.

Islam is a criminal religion and it really doesn't matter if someone
who is famous lies about this painful reality. As a criminal religion
it has no legitimate place in the United States of America.

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About the Questionnaire:

No-one who answers even one question with a "NO" should be eligible
for US citizenship. For a Muslim to become a citizen all questions
should require a "YES" answer.

Clearly this presents a dilemma for any believing Muslim. He or she
cannot deny the perceived "truth" of even one verse in the Qur'an
since all verses, according to the Qur'an's own words, are the
presumed actual words of Allah, and are inviolate and holy.

For a Muslim to give even one YES answer is to commit apostasy and
condemn himself -- or herself -- to death.

This is the exact intent of the Questionnaire, to show everyone
exactly how unethical and criminal the core text of Islam actually
is, how evil the religion of Islam actually is, and how antithetical
to most or close to all values which Americans regard as absolutely
essential -- or even divinely sanctioned.

Exactly what to do about Muslims who already have acquired
citizenship status is an open question at this time, but a simple
solution would be to require all Muslims now resident in the USA to
apostasy from Islam. No conversion to another religion would be
required, even if that might be a good idea, the only necessity would
be to abandon Islam entirely and swear a binding oath of repudiation
of the Qur'an and Muhammad.

Muslims unwilling to do this should be stripped of their citizenship
and immediately deported -- no exceptions for any reason.

All mosques in the United States should be shuttered and closed. Fair
compensation should be paid to property owners and the buildings
converted to other uses or torn down.

This should dispose of the Muslim problem in America.

Billy Rojas
Eugene / Oregon

Former teacher of Comparative Religion, history and social science.
Alice Lloyd College, Phoenix College, Lower Columbia College, City
Colleges of Chicago assigned to the US Navy PACE Program to provide
college course instruction to military personnel on board the
aircraft carrier, USS Enterprise. Also a lecturer at the University
of Oregon, Pacifica Forum, 2008 - early 2010.

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