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Crusad...@webtv.net

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Kimberly wrote,

And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by Baptists,
who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of everyone
else's personal life.
------------------
That's called civilization, Kimmy. Society supervised Jeffrey Dahmer's
personal life by telling him that he would have to start mopping floors
in prison to fill his spare time instead of engaging in necrophilia and
cannibalism. Necrophilia, cannibalism, and murdering our helpless,
unborn children is not very nice, Kimmy. That's the reason for law; to
supervise.

If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,
then why live in a country that is majority Christian? Your tribe is 3%
of the population. You and yours have no right to force your lawless,
egalitarian, anarchist ideology on the Gentile, Christian majority.
Israel is waiting for you!

For White Unity,
J Johnson

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Aviator

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<Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Kimberly wrote,
>
> And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by Baptists,
> who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of everyone
> else's personal life.
> ------------------
> That's called civilization, Kimmy.

Wrong asshole. Ot called Nazi fascism. You and your asshole buddies would
love to practice it in the open, but youre too damned chickenshit, so you do
it from behind a computer keyboard. Youre nothing more than a craven racist
coward

Society supervised Jeffrey Dahmer's
> personal life by telling him that he would have to start mopping floors
> in prison to fill his spare time instead of engaging in necrophilia and
> cannibalism. Necrophilia, cannibalism, and murdering our helpless,
> unborn children is not very nice, Kimmy.

Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white like our
little hate peddling bigot

>That's the reason for law; to supervise.

Wrong, Mr Shithouse Lawyer! The law sets the reasonable parameters of
within which all people must live. It has no quality of self enforcement to
give it the ability to supervise.

>
> If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,
> then why live in a country that is majority Christian?

You are the last person in the world to speak of morality after having
exhibited the morals of a gutter rat in every item you post. As for being
Christian, that has got to be the most hypocritical statement a hating
racist like you can make

Your tribe is 3% of the population.

And your little conglomorate of racist/supremist groups doesnt even comprise
1% of the population

You and yours have no right to force your lawless,
> egalitarian, anarchist ideology on the Gentile, Christian majority.

You seem to forget that more than 95% of that Gentile, Christian majority,
does not support or approve of your supremist ideology. You are part of a
pathetic minority of bigots who in no way represent the majority of white
people in this country

> Israel is waiting for you!

What is waiting for a minority bigot like you?? Nothing, except a life of
bitterness and hating. With your character, I wouldnt be surprised if you
ended up in prison

Thomas Mohr

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,

> then why live in a country that is majority Christian? Your tribe is 3%
> of the population. You and yours have no right to force your lawless,


> egalitarian, anarchist ideology on the Gentile, Christian majority.

> Israel is waiting for you!
>

> For White Unity,
> J Johnson

Johnson, it is YOU who has a problem with christian morality. Ever heard
of the commandment that you shall not spread lies about your next ?

Black Outrage

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>
> <Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:1351-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > Kimberly wrote,
> >
> > And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by Baptists,
> > who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of everyone
> > else's personal life.
> > ------------------
> > That's called civilization, Kimmy.
>
> Wrong asshole. Ot called Nazi fascism. You and your asshole buddies would
> love to practice it in the open, but youre too damned chickenshit, so you
do
> it from behind a computer keyboard.

***** Like AVIATOR......
You're just a racist,Brit. chickenshit who uses the name
Aviator.Such a coward he has to change his skanky drawers five times a
day.Brown out city.///////////////////// This Black man is on to your racist
trickery and tricknology.


des

Wm James

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On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:53:43 -0400 (EDT), Crusad...@webtv.net
wrote:

>Kimberly wrote,
>
>And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by Baptists,
>who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of everyone
>else's personal life.
>------------------

>That's called civilization, Kimmy. Society supervised Jeffrey Dahmer's


>personal life by telling him that he would have to start mopping floors
>in prison to fill his spare time instead of engaging in necrophilia and
>cannibalism. Necrophilia, cannibalism, and murdering our helpless,

>unborn children is not very nice, Kimmy. That's the reason for law; to
>supervise.
>


>If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,
>then why live in a country that is majority Christian? Your tribe is 3%
>of the population. You and yours have no right to force your lawless,
>egalitarian, anarchist ideology on the Gentile, Christian majority.
>Israel is waiting for you!
>
>For White Unity,
>J Johnson


Actually, she is the only jewish member of her tribe.

William R. James


Che'Gu Maru

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Kimberly wrote,
>
> And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by Baptists,
> who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of everyone
> else's personal life.
> ------------------
> That's called civilization, Kimmy. Society supervised Jeffrey Dahmer's
> personal life by telling him that he would have to start mopping floors
> in prison to fill his spare time instead of engaging in necrophilia and
> cannibalism. Necrophilia, cannibalism, and murdering our helpless,
> unborn children is not very nice, Kimmy. That's the reason for law; to
> supervise.
>
> If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,
> then why live in a country that is majority Christian? Your tribe is 3%
> of the population. You and yours have no right to force your lawless,
> egalitarian, anarchist ideology on the Gentile, Christian majority.
> Israel is waiting for you!
>
> For White Unity,
> J Johnson
>

And here I though the foundation of Christian morality was love of others,
not hatred of anyone different. Poor mistaken me! So enlighten us, then:
the root of Christian morality is a hatred and despite of anyone who looks
or believes differently -- is that what you are saying?


Eric Florack

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On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:08:03 -0700, "Aviator" <S...@tter.com> wrote:

>Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
>killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white like our
>little hate peddling bigot

Ummmm, Kim?

While I agree with your sentiment, (if you check you'll find I've
already ripped him a new oraface, in another thread) you may want to
check your figures. Oh, they're correct as you've expressed them, but
let's check ....not the raw numbers... but the percentile of convicted
criminals on a per group basis, shall we?

>>That's the reason for law; to supervise.
>

>Wrong, Mr Shithouse Lawyer! The law sets the reasonable parameters of
>within which all people must live. It has no quality of self enforcement to
>give it the ability to supervise.


That's because there is supposed to be a value structure under the la,
called a CULTURE, and a cultural value structure. Consider that (at
least in the early part of our history) laws could not have a prayer
of being passed which did not fall into line with pre-existing,
culturally driven concepts of right and wrong. The law was designed to
give us a mechanism to uphold the culture and cultural values, of the
majority. Granted that it is an imperfect tool, but then again all
efforts of mere mortals are, no?

>
>>
>> If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,
>> then why live in a country that is majority Christian?
>

>You are the last person in the world to speak of morality after having
>exhibited the morals of a gutter rat in every item you post. As for being
>Christian, that has got to be the most hypocritical statement a hating
>racist like you can make

Still, he does raise an interesting question, and I'll re-pose it, in
the hopes of getting a reasonable answer.


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Crusad...@webtv.net

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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

And here I though the foundation of Christian morality was love of
others, not hatred of anyone different. Poor mistaken me!   So
enlighten us, then: the root of Christian morality is a hatred and
despite of anyone who looks or believes differently -- is that what you
are saying?

------------------
That is exactly what I am saying. Read the Bible. It says queers should
be stoned to death. It says women should wear veils and submit to their
husbands. Not egalitarianism, is it?

Catholic Canon Law consists of an entire book telling what beliefs make
'people who believe differently' anathema (racialism is not one of
them). There is nothing in the Bible or Church dogma that says I can't
be a racialist. Moreover, the Christian definition of "love," and the
Marxist definition are quite different. When a Marxist says "love," he
means "free sex" orgies and egalitarianism. This is not the 'true'
Christian ideal. I don't care what the left-wing clergy say.

The Bible and traditional Church teachings are not egalitarian.

When you multiracialists speak of "love," it is just a sneaky trick to
destroy everyones sense of identity via egalitarianism, thus, reducing
the probability of rebellion.

"Communism has nothing to do with love. Communism is an excellent hammer
which we use to destroy our enemy." (Mao Tse-tung)

For White Unity,
J Johnson

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Thomas Mohr

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> And here I though the foundation of Christian morality was love of
> others, not hatred of anyone different. Poor mistaken me! So
> enlighten us, then: the root of Christian morality is a hatred and
> despite of anyone who looks or believes differently -- is that what you
> are saying?
> ------------------
> That is exactly what I am saying. Read the Bible. It says queers should
> be stoned to death. It says women should wear veils and submit to their
> husbands. Not egalitarianism, is it?
>
> Catholic Canon Law consists of an entire book telling what beliefs make
> 'people who believe differently' anathema (racialism is not one of
> them). There is nothing in the Bible or Church dogma that says I can't
> be a racialist. Moreover, the Christian definition of "love," and the
> Marxist definition are quite different. When a Marxist says "love," he
> means "free sex" orgies and egalitarianism. This is not the 'true'
> Christian ideal. I don't care what the left-wing clergy say.

Johnson, there is something in the bible that is right against your
racsim: The principle: "love your next like you would love yourself." It
does NOT say: "love your next tribesman like you would love yourself".
It says *love your next*. Also Jesus repeatedly said that he came for
*all* humans, the logical deduction is that this rule is valid for *all*
and not just for the tribe. It is *the* foundamental prinicple of the
whole Bible.

Your ideology is: love your tribesmen, hate the others and that directly
violates this principle. Therefore you are no christian, not in 1000
years.

oldfur...@webtv.net

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Apr 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/18/99
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To Crusader,
In one aspect this thread certainly deserves no response, but in another
, it proves that there are multiple ways to be fucked up.Yes there is a
Jewish agenda,,yes you were able to uncover it, yes multiculture
influences are no longer going unchecked..since your recovery..mean
discoveries.there are dozens of instutions being formed to follow the
conspirators and try them for instigators and jesus killers...what a job
cursader .I know we should be happy with your performance but I can't
help ask you some questions...just in case we need more people like you
in the future...true or false...Both your parents are dysfunctional?
Alcohol is banned in your home? Exconvict and future were words that
were mistakenly written on your record... Happiness is all around you.
The average lifespan of your kind is 10 but increasing daily..the
average mentality is 6 ...but decreasing...


Duane Phinney

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Let us reason together. The Jews spend thousands of man hours and millions
of dollars every year harassing Christians and they call the Christians the
racists, it is about time we fought back
As for the Bible, if you check you will find out that the Jews have a
problem with God that the Christians do not..

Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
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>
> <Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:1351-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

> > Kimberly wrote,
> >
> > And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by Baptists,
> > who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of everyone
> > else's personal life.
> > ------------------
> > That's called civilization, Kimmy.
>

> Wrong asshole. Ot called Nazi fascism. You and your asshole buddies would
> love to practice it in the open, but youre too damned chickenshit, so you
do

> it from behind a computer keyboard. Youre nothing more than a craven
racist
> coward
>


> Society supervised Jeffrey Dahmer's
> > personal life by telling him that he would have to start mopping floors
> > in prison to fill his spare time instead of engaging in necrophilia and
> > cannibalism. Necrophilia, cannibalism, and murdering our helpless,
> > unborn children is not very nice, Kimmy.
>

> Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
> killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white like our
> little hate peddling bigot
>

> >That's the reason for law; to supervise.
>
> Wrong, Mr Shithouse Lawyer! The law sets the reasonable parameters of
> within which all people must live. It has no quality of self enforcement
to
> give it the ability to supervise.
>
> >

> > If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,
> > then why live in a country that is majority Christian?
>
> You are the last person in the world to speak of morality after having
> exhibited the morals of a gutter rat in every item you post. As for being
> Christian, that has got to be the most hypocritical statement a hating
> racist like you can make
>
>
>

> Your tribe is 3% of the population.
>

> And your little conglomorate of racist/supremist groups doesnt even
comprise
> 1% of the population
>

> You and yours have no right to force your lawless,
> > egalitarian, anarchist ideology on the Gentile, Christian majority.
>

> You seem to forget that more than 95% of that Gentile, Christian majority,
> does not support or approve of your supremist ideology. You are part of a
> pathetic minority of bigots who in no way represent the majority of white
> people in this country
>

> > Israel is waiting for you!
>

> What is waiting for a minority bigot like you?? Nothing, except a life of
> bitterness and hating. With your character, I wouldnt be surprised if you
> ended up in prison
>
>
> >

Thomas Mohr

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> And here I though the foundation of Christian morality was love of
> others, not hatred of anyone different. Poor mistaken me! So
> enlighten us, then: the root of Christian morality is a hatred and
> despite of anyone who looks or believes differently -- is that what you
> are saying?
> ------------------
> That is exactly what I am saying. Read the Bible. It says queers should
> be stoned to death. It says women should wear veils and submit to their
> husbands. Not egalitarianism, is it?

Crusader, another reason why you are NOT a catholic, not in 1000 years.
If you have the choice between a white freemanson and a black catholic,
you choose the white freemason, because of his race and you do not care
about the black catholic. This is absolutely incompatible with
Catholicism. It is like Jesus Christ said: You can not serve two Lords,
God and the Money. You can also not serve two Lords, God and the Race.
you definitely serve Race, and NOT God.

Che'Gu Maru

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
Che'Gu Maru wrote:

And here I though the foundation of Christian morality was love of
others, not hatred of anyone different. Poor mistaken me!   So
enlighten us, then: the root of Christian morality is a hatred and
despite of anyone who looks or believes differently -- is that what you
are saying?
------------------
That is exactly what I am saying. Read the Bible. It says queers should
be stoned to death. It says women should wear veils and submit to their
husbands. Not egalitarianism, is it?
 

No, it is not.   But the fact that this is from your interpretation of the Bible in no way makes it less an evil interpretation.

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> Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > <Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:1351-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > Kimberly wrote,
> > >
> > > And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by
Baptists,
> > > who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of everyone
> > > else's personal life.
> > > ------------------
> > > That's called civilization, Kimmy.
> >
> > Wrong asshole. Ot called Nazi fascism. You and your asshole buddies
would
> > love to practice it in the open, but youre too damned chickenshit, so
you
> do
> > it from behind a computer keyboard.
>
> ***** Like AVIATOR......
> You're just a racist,Brit. chickenshit who uses the name
> Aviator.Such a coward he has to change his skanky drawers five times a
> day.Brown out city.///////////////////// This Black man is on to your
racist
> trickery and tricknology.

Hehehehehehehe What happened moron?? Did you fall into a barrel of tar???
Bring on the feathers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFL!!!!!!
>
>
> des

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> Let us reason together. The Jews spend thousands of man hours and millions
> of dollars every year harassing Christians and they call the Christians
the
> racists, it is about time we fought back
> As for the Bible, if you check you will find out that the Jews have a
> problem with God that the Christians do not.

Another case of jealousy, for sure. How come I dont feel threatened?? Why is
it that more than 95% of the total population dont be threatened? How are
the Jews harassing you?? Why dont you take them to court??

Just another case blatant anti-semiticism, I guess

>
> Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > <Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:1351-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > Kimberly wrote,
> > >
> > > And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by
Baptists,
> > > who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of everyone
> > > else's personal life.
> > > ------------------
> > > That's called civilization, Kimmy.
> >
> > Wrong asshole. Ot called Nazi fascism. You and your asshole buddies
would
> > love to practice it in the open, but youre too damned chickenshit, so
you
> do

> > it from behind a computer keyboard. Youre nothing more than a craven
> racist
> > coward
> >

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> On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:08:03 -0700, "Aviator" <S...@tter.com> wrote:
>
> >Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
> >killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white like our
> >little hate peddling bigot
>
> Ummmm, Kim?
>
> While I agree with your sentiment, (if you check you'll find I've
> already ripped him a new oraface, in another thread) you may want to
> check your figures. Oh, they're correct as you've expressed them, but
> let's check ....not the raw numbers... but the percentile of convicted
> criminals on a per group basis, shall we?

Percentile figures per group is probably the most skewed methodology you
could employ. Roger enjoys using a per capita extrapolation which would make
all blacks look like demons. What exactly do you want the statistics to tell
you??
Raw figures give you an EXACT reflection of a statistic, without using
mathematics to enhance a political position


>
> >>That's the reason for law; to supervise.
> >
> >Wrong, Mr Shithouse Lawyer! The law sets the reasonable parameters of
> >within which all people must live. It has no quality of self enforcement
to
> >give it the ability to supervise.
>
>

> That's because there is supposed to be a value structure under the la,
> called a CULTURE, and a cultural value structure. Consider that (at
> least in the early part of our history) laws could not have a prayer
> of being passed which did not fall into line with pre-existing,
> culturally driven concepts of right and wrong.

Cultural values are not fixed. They change with the times, and laws with
them

>The law was designed to give us a mechanism to uphold the
>culture and cultural values, of the
> majority. Granted that it is an imperfect tool, but then again all
> efforts of mere mortals are, no?

Verily, a profound observation.!


>
> >
> >>
> >> If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,
> >> then why live in a country that is majority Christian?
> >
> >You are the last person in the world to speak of morality after having
> >exhibited the morals of a gutter rat in every item you post. As for being
> >Christian, that has got to be the most hypocritical statement a hating
> >racist like you can make
>

> Still, he does raise an interesting question, and I'll re-pose it, in
> the hopes of getting a reasonable answer.

Please do

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Aviator wrote:

Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white

-------------------
Yup. That's because it takes 'intelligence' and planning ahead to commit
multiple murders over a prolonged period of time and avoid detection.
Negroes just commit impulsive, thoughtless acts of animal violence - in
large numbers. There is at most, 50 serial killers at large. There a
many more negro muggers and rapists than white serial killers.

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Mohr wrote:

Christ said: You can not serve two Lords, God and the Money. You can
also not serve two Lords, God and the Race. you definitely serve Race,
and NOT God.

-----------------
Mohr, You also cannot serve two Lords, God and the non-whites. You
definitely serve Non-Whites, and NOT God.

You see, Mohr? Scripture can be interpreted in favor of or against
ANYTHING! Even Satan quoted scripture to Jesus when he was tempting Him
in the desert.

In the New Testament, Jesus says it is better to tear out your eyes than
to look at a woman lustfully. How should we interpret that one, Mohr? I
hope not literally. Many of the things that Jesus spoke of are
IMPOSSIBLE for human beings to adhere to. That is why the Bible says,
"There are none that are righteous, not one."

If the earlier Christians would have interpreted "he who takes up the
sword, shall die by the sword," in a pacifist context, no northern
European would be Christian. Charlemagne gave the Germanic tribes a
choice: Accept Baptism or be killed. Some chose Baptism, others chose
death. That's what built the Church, Mohr - the sword!

Back to your Marxist interpretation of "love thy neighbor." Women are
our neighbors. The Bible says that we should love our wives. Yet, the
Bible (Old 'and' New Testaments) say that woman are to have a lower
status than men, and that they should submit to their husbands.

Obviously "love thy neighbor" does not mean "give thy neighbor equal
status." The Bible also says that slaves should obey their masters.

The Roman Catholic Church is a hierarchy. This means that a Bishop has
'superior' status to a priest. If we can acknowledge individual
superiority and inferiority, we can do the same with race.

I believe that the white race is the superlative civilizer. I believe
that the existence of the white race must be preserved - at any cost.
The perpetuation of the white race can only be ensured via racial
separation.

Mohr, your anti-white attitudes are the antithesis of "love thy
neighbor." First, because hating your own is perverted. Second, if the
non-whites breed us out (which you obviously desire), the world will be
a third world slum. No one will benefit from that.

Mohr, you and your fellow liberals have created a situation in Africa
where the negro is now starving and living in squalor this century.
Because people like you destroyed white rule of that continent in the
name of your precious "equality." So don't give me any of your holier
than thou "love thy neighbor" lectures, Mohr.
Your "equality" bullshit creates misery for whites 'and' blacks.

Mohr, I believe that all races will benefit from the white races
continued existence and racial separation.

I have no hatred for our non-white neighbors who are in their own
nation. But the non-whites who are in my tribes nation, and breeding
with the females of my tribe, I view as a mortal enemy of my people.

Mohr, since you're short sighted, we can talk about a smaller unit. You
"love your neighbor," but if he invades your house and screws your wife,
you would throw him out of your house, yes? That's how I view non-whites
in my country.

Aviator

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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

And here I though the foundation of Christian morality was love of
others, not hatred of anyone different. Poor mistaken me! So
enlighten us, then: the root of Christian morality is a hatred and
despite of anyone who looks or believes differently -- is that what you
are saying?
------------------
That is exactly what I am saying. Read the Bible. It says queers should
be stoned to death. It says women should wear veils and submit to their
husbands. Not egalitarianism, is it?

And youre no Christian, you slimy shit.

Catholic Canon Law consists of an entire book telling what beliefs make
'people who believe differently' anathema (racialism is not one of
them). There is nothing in the Bible or Church dogma that says I can't
be a racialist. Moreover, the Christian definition of "love," and the
Marxist definition are quite different. When a Marxist says "love," he
means "free sex" orgies and egalitarianism. This is not the 'true'
Christian ideal. I don't care what the left-wing clergy say.

The Bible and traditional Church teachings are not egalitarian.

When you multiracialists speak of "love," it is just a sneaky trick to
destroy everyones sense of identity via egalitarianism, thus, reducing
the probability of rebellion.

Just another whining excuse from a racist loser

"Communism has nothing to do with love. Communism is an excellent hammer
which we use to destroy our enemy." (Mao Tse-tung)

For White Unity,

Aviator

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Screwing your wife?? No wonder youre such a shitty little hater!!

ROFL!!!!!

Aviator

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> Aviator wrote:
>
> Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
> killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white
> -------------------
> Yup. That's because it takes 'intelligence' and planning ahead to commit
> multiple murders over a prolonged period of time and avoid detection.
> Negroes just commit impulsive, thoughtless acts of animal violence - in
> large numbers. There is at most, 50 serial killers at large. There a
> many more negro muggers and rapists than white serial killers.

What a sick moron!! Now you are cheering the lowest white scum in existence
for their ability to commit such heinous crimes!!

You have got to be the sickest piece of shit around. If you are a poster boy
for racist groups, all I can say is keep it up.

You are doing a fantastic job of destroying even the faintest possiblity of
any sane person associating themselves with you Loony Goons

Thomas Mohr

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Mohr, your anti-white attitudes are the antithesis of "love thy
> neighbor." First, because hating your own is perverted. Second, if the
> non-whites breed us out (which you obviously desire), the world will be
> a third world slum. No one will benefit from that.

Thank you for confirming my point of view.

First, I do not hate whites. For me, the race of a person does not play a
role so I simply CAN NOT hate somebody based on his/her race.

Second, do you remember that I asked whom you and your comrades would prefer
? The non-white cousin or a non-related white ? The answer was: the
non-related white. Since your non-white cousin shares at least 25% of your
genes, i.e. is much more "of your kind" than ANY non-related white, and
since this person most likely lives in your nation (i.e. has invaded your
house) you are - according to your own statement - a pervert for hating
him/her.

> < snip >

> Mohr, since you're short sighted, we can talk about a smaller unit. You
> "love your neighbor," but if he invades your house and screws your wife,
> you would throw him out of your house, yes? That's how I view non-whites
> in my country.

IF I would be you, I would not talk about short-sightedness since you are
notorious for your limited intellectual capabilities. The point is you try
to tell the world that an X looks like an U. You claim that whites are
superior and that non-whites are stupid (except maybe Asians). Just a little
scenario: Imagine you have to hire somebody for a position requiring a
certain intelligence. Two candidates are available. You and my (by your
definitions) non-white cousin. She has an International Bacchalaureate, now
a college degree of a renowned university with a top GPA and her general
education easily matches that of any European (which means a lot if you take
into account that the US is - according to the newest surveys - behind
*every* European country when it comes to general education). You on the
other hand do not have these credentials. So whom would you take ? You ?
Just because you are white ? Only idiots would do that. The point is, when
it comes to real competition and to real life, race does not matter. If
somebody is smarter than you, more civilized than you and has a better
character than you - you can be as white as a lily, this person will outwit
you, regardless whether this person is black, white or whatever.

BTW, you as a white a superior creator of civilization ? Laughable. You,
like all average American white can not even maintain the *original* western
civilization - because you have only a very dim idea of it.

A personal remark: I think racists are *on average* rather dim lighbulbs.
You can't even realize that fighting them does not mean that this person
automatically *promotes* a certain race. You also do not realize that you
can at the same time recognize that races are different and that this
difference unimportant for you because you look at the person. In other
words: You say: "Races are different !" I answer: "Yes, they are, but so
what ? Is that a reason to make life a hell for others ?"

You also do not realize that there is far more between sky and earth than
just racism and marxism. In short words: You simply are too stupid to see
that there are people out there who do not want that you make life a hell
for others and that you spread your evilness and that race does *not* mean
everything. It is only a biological concept. Nothing more.


Jafo

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As viewed from alt.california on Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:55:56 -0400
(EDT), Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

>Aviator wrote:
>>Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
>>killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white

>Yup. That's because it takes 'intelligence' and planning ahead to commit


>multiple murders over a prolonged period of time and avoid detection.
>Negroes just commit impulsive, thoughtless acts of animal violence - in
>large numbers. There is at most, 50 serial killers at large. There a
>many more negro muggers and rapists than white serial killers.

You appear to derive a sense of racial pride from the fact that most
of the really big-time serial killers are white. For you, it's a
badge of distinction that you can claim even a skin-color resemblance
to such, uhm, elite members of society?

--
~ Jafo http://www.cheetah.net/jafo/

"This sad little lizard told me that he was a brontosaurus on his
mother's side. I did not laugh; people who boast of ancestry often
have little else to sustain them." - R.A. Heinlein


Thomas Mohr

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:Mohr, since you're short sighted, we can talk

about a smaller unit. You

> "love your neighbor," but if he invades your house and screws your wife,
> you would throw him out of your house, yes? That's how I view non-whites
> in my country.

Let me give you a lecture: Non-white cultures have been part of the US from
the very beginning. In fact, US-culture as it is and always was would be
unthinkable without these influences. Therefore, your non-white con-American
is a part of this "house" and has every right to be there, whether you like
it or not. As I said, you and your socially matched black con-American have
culturally far more in common than you have with *any* white European.
Striking reason: You are as unable to maintain the *original European*
western culture as your black con-American is unable to maintain the
*original* African culture. You both have only dim ideas of these cultures.

Further, if you would emmigrate to an nearly all-white country like f.i.
Iceland, YOU would be as much an intruder as your non-white con-American and
you *both* would qualify under the "screwing the wifes" of your example - to
the same extent. Reason: You *both* have no idea about iceland. You simply
do not belong there. In fact, a black born and raised in Iceland and being
Iclandic citizen would belong to Iceland, but not you. You simply would not,
whether you like that or not.


ken berg

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Well, I do not think Jews are out to get anyone, and Baptists, while they
can be overbearing, are not ALL like Falwell or some of the other loudmouths
on tv, thank God.

You guys should note that only in California would such loud hateful talk be
given any credence. In my home state of South Dakota, folks would just look
at you like you are crazy if you talked like that. They would then proceed
to ignore you.

I think SD has benefited greatly from the influence of the Sioux and Lakota
Indians, and how they think about things. As far as I could tell in my 32
years of living in there, South Dakota, while one of the poorest states in
the Union, has not stooped to overt racism. Racism and bigotry never have
gotten a foothold there, and and neither has hot-headedness. I remember a
few years ago in Aberdeen SD, the big news in town was that some high school
kids had gotten hold of some kkk literature. The teacher promptly took the
material, and called the principal, who in turn called the kids' parents,
and their pastors, and it eventually got into the paper and the mayor, and
the ministers around town all gave various talks about what racism leads to.
At school, all the kids were shown a movie about Slavery, and the Holocaust
and were reminded those were the inevidable results of racism and bigotry.
Around the state, folks talked about how only in Aberdeen (a railroad town =
a "tough town" by SD standards) would such a vile thing rear its ugly head.

Sure SD has its faults, and over the years has been less than fair to the
Native Indians, but nowdays, mainly because of intermarriage and general
tolerance brought on by the Civil rights movement, and by older folks
passing away, these arguments are fewer and fewer and folks get along much
better. SD has only 600,000 people anyway, most of whom are White (but
also, most folks are part Indian), with maybe 100,000 or so being full-blood
(more than 1/4) Indian, but also some Asians (Chinese from the days when
they built the railroads, and Japanese who ended up there after their WW2
internment along with some war brides, and of course quite a few Vietnamese
folks who arrived in the 1970s). There are some Black folks, some of whom
have been there since the cowboy days. Indians called these guys Buffalo
Soldiers because their hair was black and curly like a buffalo's mane. It
always seems like there are not many people of color in SD, but
percentage-wise, the state probably comes close to the national averages.
Again, bear in mind there are more people in San Jose than in the whole
state of SD. The new folks in SD are Latinos who are making their way there
to work on farms, but mainly in the slaughter houses (pork, beef, chicken).
Again, from what I have seen, these newcomers are adjusting and getting on
well enough.

South Dakotans owe this general polite and quiet way in part to the Indians,
but they can also be proud that they do not engage in the sort of hot-headed
talk that only ends up hurting folks. Besides, after you're done shoveling
snow and working ten hours a day for what amounts to almost the lowest pay
scale in the nation, you are too tired to worry about what color someone is
(ha, ha)!

In my hometown of Redfield, about the only race that mattered was the race
to the bar or the bowling alley. Don't want to miss happy hour you know ;)

Ken Berg
go...@inreach.com


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>> On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:08:03 -0700, "Aviator" <S...@tter.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial

Michael Ejercito

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In article <4447-371...@newsd-283.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Aviator wrote:
>
> Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
> killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white

> -------------------


> Yup. That's because it takes 'intelligence' and planning ahead to commit
> multiple murders over a prolonged period of time and avoid detection.
> Negroes just commit impulsive, thoughtless acts of animal violence - in
> large numbers. There is at most, 50 serial killers at large. There a
> many more negro muggers and rapists than white serial killers.
>

> For White Unity,
> J Johnson

and there are many more White rapists and muggers than Negro muggers
and rapists. Statistically,you are more likely to be robbed by a White
person than a Black person.


Michael


CSULB College Republicans


For Truth,Justice,Freedom,and the American Way

Michael Ejercito

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In article <7feum9$f64$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Aviator"
<S...@tter.com> wrote:

> <Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:4447-371...@newsd-283.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

> > Aviator wrote:
> >
> > Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
> > killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white
> > -------------------
> > Yup. That's because it takes 'intelligence' and planning ahead to commit
> > multiple murders over a prolonged period of time and avoid detection.
> > Negroes just commit impulsive, thoughtless acts of animal violence - in
> > large numbers. There is at most, 50 serial killers at large. There a
> > many more negro muggers and rapists than white serial killers.
>

> What a sick moron!! Now you are cheering the lowest white scum in existence
> for their ability to commit such heinous crimes!!
>
> You have got to be the sickest piece of shit around. If you are a poster boy
> for racist groups, all I can say is keep it up.
>
> You are doing a fantastic job of destroying even the faintest possiblity of
> any sane person associating themselves with you Loony Goons

Don't be too hard on this guy. David Dahlman of Seabrook,Texas (Rack
Jite) considers him POLITE and HONEST.

Miguel O'Pastel

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It's not your country, you silly fuck. It's OUR country, including
everyone. The civil commitment laws must be lax in your state.
M
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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> [You] also cannot serve two Lords, God and the non-whites. You


> definitely serve Non-Whites, and NOT God.

A man so divorced from physical reality that he has confused the metaphysical
God with human melanin. This is probably why he consuses onanism with having
a wife -- with an imaginary son to boot -- in tow at UCSB.

Cru, being a native Californian means having to listen to out-of-staters'
accounts of their trips to California and their strong opinions of the state,
pro and con. For some reason, nobody claims not to have visited California
at least once, usually the Southland, which has always struck me as strange
considering its great distance from the rest of the country. Not everybody
has been in New Orleans, say, even though it's only a day's drive from the
population center of the United States. Often I hear tales, to wit: a woman
at a party in Manhattan some years ago who told me of her miserable trip to
Los Angeles where her big July 4th parade was rained out. Not rained out
once, mind you, but rained out two years in a row. Angelenos away from home
are used to hearing such whoppers. My all-time fave was a man also in New
York who told me of how he had visited his sister in Riverside "right outside
Hollywood" where his sister had an elaborate route for her ice cream truck on
the bee-yoo-tiful back streets of Hollywood where every house is Carole
Lombard and Clark Gable's place.

With the preceding in mind, not to mention having a branch office in Santa
Bee, and having entertained more than one customer at the Elephant Lounge,
I wonder if you'd be kind enough to connect the word "Isla" with UCSB, i.e.,
what word comes after "Isla"? And how might a local pronounce Isla?

JC


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Fantomas

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Actually the " stoned to death " part applies to the ritual of
sacred male prostitution in the temple, which was quite common
amongst ancient peoples with the exceptions of the Greeks, Romans
and Jews. In any case, what it says about " queers " and about
women being submissive and wearing veils is part of the Old Law,
the talmudic law, that Jesus made irrelevant - that is,unless
you are a Jew. I never knew you were really Jewish, JJ...

And BTW Jew hatred is America hatred, for better or worse.
Your philosophy reflects your contempt for America.

Duane Phinney

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Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
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>
> Duane Phinney <geno...@fdt.com> wrote in message
> news:DMsS2.1365$IS2....@monger.newsread.com...
> > Let us reason together. The Jews spend thousands of man hours and
millions
> > of dollars every year harassing Christians and they call the Christians
> the
> > racists, it is about time we fought back
> > As for the Bible, if you check you will find out that the Jews have a
> > problem with God that the Christians do not.
>
> Another case of jealousy, for sure. How come I dont feel threatened?? Why
is
> it that more than 95% of the total population dont be threatened? How are
> the Jews harassing you?? Why dont you take them to court??
>
> Just another case blatant anti-semiticism, I guess

The Jews are trying to outlaw Christmas.
The Jews sue any school board if any student (Christian) says a prayer.
The Jews sue anyone who puts up a cross.
This list could go on all night.

>
> >
> > Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
> > news:7fc3or$mv5$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > >

> > > <Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message


> > > news:1351-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > > Kimberly wrote,
> > > >
> > > > And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by
> Baptists,
> > > > who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of
everyone
> > > > else's personal life.
> > > > ------------------
> > > > That's called civilization, Kimmy.
> > >
> > > Wrong asshole. Ot called Nazi fascism. You and your asshole buddies
> would
> > > love to practice it in the open, but youre too damned chickenshit, so
> you
> > do
> > > it from behind a computer keyboard. Youre nothing more than a craven
> > racist
> > > coward
> > >
> > > Society supervised Jeffrey Dahmer's
> > > > personal life by telling him that he would have to start mopping
> floors
> > > > in prison to fill his spare time instead of engaging in necrophilia
> and
> > > > cannibalism. Necrophilia, cannibalism, and murdering our helpless,
> > > > unborn children is not very nice, Kimmy.
> > >

> > > Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of
serial

> > > killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white like our
> > > little hate peddling bigot
> > >

> > > >That's the reason for law; to supervise.
> > >
> > > Wrong, Mr Shithouse Lawyer! The law sets the reasonable parameters of
> > > within which all people must live. It has no quality of self
enforcement
> > to
> > > give it the ability to supervise.
> > >
> > > >

> > > > If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously
do,
> > > > then why live in a country that is majority Christian?
> > >
> > > You are the last person in the world to speak of morality after having
> > > exhibited the morals of a gutter rat in every item you post. As for
> being
> > > Christian, that has got to be the most hypocritical statement a hating
> > > racist like you can make
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > Your tribe is 3% of the population.
> > >
> > > And your little conglomorate of racist/supremist groups doesnt even
> > comprise
> > > 1% of the population
> > >
> > > You and yours have no right to force your lawless,
> > > > egalitarian, anarchist ideology on the Gentile, Christian majority.
> > >
> > > You seem to forget that more than 95% of that Gentile, Christian
> majority,
> > > does not support or approve of your supremist ideology. You are part
of
> a
> > > pathetic minority of bigots who in no way represent the majority of
> white
> > > people in this country
> > >
> > > > Israel is waiting for you!
> > >
> > > What is waiting for a minority bigot like you?? Nothing, except a life
> of
> > > bitterness and hating. With your character, I wouldnt be surprised if
> you
> > > ended up in prison
> > >
> > >
> > > >

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Leave it to the leftists to twist and obfuscate 'everything.' I am not
defending serial killers. I am simply saying that serial murder requires
intelligence and planning. Intelligence and the ability to plan ahead
are traits that negroes lack.

That is why there are not many negro serial killers. But there is no
shortage of negro murderers, rapists, and armed robbers.

Aviator

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ken berg <go...@inreach.com> wrote in message
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Not after a 700 series, fer sure

Che'Gu Maru

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Leave it to the leftists to twist and obfuscate 'everything.' I am not
> defending serial killers.

<<<SNIPPP>>>
No, but you are defending murder, rape, torture, and the persecution of the
innocent. Those, after all, have been the hallmarks of racists throughout
the ages, any time they managed to obtain enough power to crawl out from
under their rocks.


applej...@webtv.net

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come now duane,,the Jews are spending too much time controlling the
world ..without worrying about the one or two Christmas scenes...or
crosses.The jews I know ..kill Christians everyday...they want to take
your beer....they hang out in gangs and are planning to replace the new
testiment with the old one. All their medical research is just a ploy
to get Christians vaccinated so they can maintain control of the world..
and of course CBS.The Jews , have been on the wrong side in all wars in
the past ...and with with good people like Duan and the rest of the
dysfunctionals to set us straight ...the whte supreme way will continue
to remain the fastest way to a wonderful life in hell....where skulls,
nazis and the scum of the earth consciously decided their fate long ago
and made God's decision an easy one...Keep up the good work Duan and
crusader..tomorrow will be another loving day for you both with much to
look forward to.


Aviator

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Michael Ejercito <meje...@csulb.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <7feum9$f64$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Aviator"
> <S...@tter.com> wrote:
>
> > <Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:4447-371...@newsd-283.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

> > > Aviator wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of
serial
> > > killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white
> > > -------------------
> > > Yup. That's because it takes 'intelligence' and planning ahead to
commit
> > > multiple murders over a prolonged period of time and avoid detection.
> > > Negroes just commit impulsive, thoughtless acts of animal violence -
in
> > > large numbers. There is at most, 50 serial killers at large. There a
> > > many more negro muggers and rapists than white serial killers.
> >
> > What a sick moron!! Now you are cheering the lowest white scum in
existence
> > for their ability to commit such heinous crimes!!
> >
> > You have got to be the sickest piece of shit around. If you are a poster
boy
> > for racist groups, all I can say is keep it up.
> >
> > You are doing a fantastic job of destroying even the faintest
possiblity of
> > any sane person associating themselves with you Loony Goons
> Don't be too hard on this guy. David Dahlman of Seabrook,Texas (Rack
> Jite) considers him POLITE and HONEST.

Scum is scum. period

eflo...@my-dejanews.com

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"Aviator" <S...@tter.com> wrote:
>
> Eric Florack <eflo...@servtech.com> wrote in message
> news:371a051a...@news.servtech.com...
> > On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:08:03 -0700, "Aviator" <S...@tter.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
> > >killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white like our
> > >little hate peddling bigot
> >
> > Ummmm, Kim?
> >
> > While I agree with your sentiment, (if you check you'll find I've
> > already ripped him a new oraface, in another thread) you may want to
> > check your figures. Oh, they're correct as you've expressed them, but
> > let's check ....not the raw numbers... but the percentile of convicted
> > criminals on a per group basis, shall we?
>
> Percentile figures per group is probably the most skewed methodology you
> could employ. Roger enjoys using a per capita extrapolation which would make
> all blacks look like demons. What exactly do you want the statistics to tell
> you??
> Raw figures give you an EXACT reflection of a statistic, without using
> mathematics to enhance a political position

And reduce the risk of coming up with a figure that is politically incorrect,
eh? Nope. No sale. Simply tell us the facts and let the shit fall where and
when it will. Quit hiding.

Just FYI; The breakdown on percentage basis, to my mind don't speak as much
of racial differences, as much as they speak of cultural value differences.
To whit; does it really shock anyone that a sub-culture that hold Justice
Thomas a bad guy and Rodney King a good guy, has a higher crime rate per
capita than any other sub-grouping in America?


> >
> > >>That's the reason for law; to supervise.
> > >
> > >Wrong, Mr Shithouse Lawyer! The law sets the reasonable parameters of
> > >within which all people must live. It has no quality of self enforcement
> to
> > >give it the ability to supervise.
> >
> >
> > That's because there is supposed to be a value structure under the la,
> > called a CULTURE, and a cultural value structure. Consider that (at
> > least in the early part of our history) laws could not have a prayer
> > of being passed which did not fall into line with pre-existing,
> > culturally driven concepts of right and wrong.
>
> Cultural values are not fixed. They change with the times, and laws with
> them

The superficial ones do. THe more basic ones do not... at least, not if the
culture wants to survive. Consider the cultures which have forgotten their
roots. Each and every one of them has failed, some of them violently.

>
> >The law was designed to give us a mechanism to uphold the
> >culture and cultural values, of the
> > majority. Granted that it is an imperfect tool, but then again all
> > efforts of mere mortals are, no?
>
> Verily, a profound observation.!

Hmmm. Given your other comments, I'm not sure how to take this one.

> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously do,
> > >> then why live in a country that is majority Christian?
> > >
> > >You are the last person in the world to speak of morality after having
> > >exhibited the morals of a gutter rat in every item you post. As for being
> > >Christian, that has got to be the most hypocritical statement a hating
> > >racist like you can make
> >
> > Still, he does raise an interesting question, and I'll re-pose it, in
> > the hopes of getting a reasonable answer.
>
> Please do

I just did.

arth...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <7fgmlu$gfa$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
eflo...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> <snip> Nope. No sale. Simply tell us the facts and let the shit fall where

> and when it will. Quit hiding.
> Just FYI; The breakdown on percentage basis, to my mind don't speak as much
> of racial differences, as much as they speak of cultural value differences.

Mr. eflorack,
Statistics is quite an interesting trade.
It tends to confuse lots of people, who otherwise consider themselves
"educated". Tell you what -- instead of trying to find correlation between
the skin color and crime, why don't you brake this exercise in two:
1) find correlation between skin color and level of poverty and
2) find correlation of poverty level and crime.
Then, if you're an intellectually honest person, you will have to conclude,
that yes, irrespective of skin color, there are consistent percentages
of people prompt to commit criminal acts IN ALL RACIAL GROUPS WHICH BELONG
TO THE POOREST PORTION OF OUR SOCIETY.
Why the black families still have the lowest mean income, is another quite
complicated issue, and that's a subject of a different discussion.
But there are some good news for all of us: with more and more black families
joining the middle class in the 90s, it's easy to see how crime is getting
substantially lower among that group as well.
As to your poorly hidden anti-semitism, well, there's no known cure for that
desease. The society will have to wait until you and the likes of you die of
natural causes... It's all right, you're a tiny minority, and we can wait.

arthur_k

arth...@my-dejanews.com

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> Aviator wrote:
> Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of serial
> killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white
> -------------------
> Yup. That's because it takes 'intelligence' and planning ahead to commit
> multiple murders over a prolonged period of time and avoid detection.
> Negroes just commit impulsive, thoughtless acts of animal violence - in
> large numbers. There is at most, 50 serial killers at large. There a
> many more negro muggers and rapists than white serial killers.
> For White Unity,
> J Johnson

What J Johnson is actually trying to tell you folks
is that percentage-wise Jews commit disproportionally
low number of crimes, just because they know how to
do their planning much better than Christian whites do.
This is the same as calling white Christians stupid.
Johnson, you're a Christian-hating racist bastard!

arthur_k
(i wonder if he has enough brains in his ass to understand what I just wrote)

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Arthur wrote:

What J Johnson is actually trying to tell you folks is that
percentage-wise Jews commit disproportionally low number of crimes, just
because they know how to do their planning much better than Christian
whites do. This is the same as calling white Christians stupid. Johnson,
you're a Christian-hating racist bastard! arthur_k
(i wonder if he has enough brains in his ass to understand what I just
wrote)

-------------------
I wonder if 'you' understand what you just wrote!

The Jew, David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) used his intelligence and insanity
to terrorize New York City. How about that crazy Jew who fairly recently
pushed some women to her death in the subway station because ghosts told
him to do it? The "Chosen ones" are definitely on the eccentric side.

For White Unity,
J Johnson

-------------------------------------------------------
THIS TIME - together - WE SHALL DRIVE THE BASTARDS TO THE WALL! (George
Lincoln Rockwell)

-------------------------------------------------------
"Sine auctoritate nulla vita."
(Without authority there is no life)
-------------------------------------------------------
"Democracy, I do not conceive that ever God did ordain as a fit
government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be
governors, who shall be governed?" (John Cotton)
-------------------------------------------------------

"It doesn't take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few
determined leaders and a sound cause." (H. L. Mencken)
-------------------------------------------------------
"What is a Communist? One who hath yearnings for equal divison of
unequal earnings." (Ebenezer Elliot)

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

No, but you are defending murder, rape, torture, and the persecution of
the innocent. Those, after all, have been the hallmarks of racists
throughout the ages, any time they managed to obtain enough power to
crawl out from under their rocks.

-------------------
Oh, really? The "innocent" Jewish Marxist filth have murdered millions
upon millions of my people in the name of "equality" this century.
The Jewish scum will get no quarter from me.


"Some call it Marxism, I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
S. Wise, May 5, 1935)

"We Jews regard our race as superior to all humanity, and look forward,
not to its ultimate union with the other races, but to its triumph over
them." (Goldwyn Smith, Jewish professor of modern history at Oxford
university, October, 1981)

Thomas Mohr

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> -------------------
> Oh, really? The "innocent" Jewish Marxist filth have murdered millions
> upon millions of my people in the name of "equality" this century.
> The Jewish scum will get no quarter from me.
>
> "Some call it Marxism, I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
> S. Wise, May 5, 1935)
>
> "We Jews regard our race as superior to all humanity, and look forward,
> not to its ultimate union with the other races, but to its triumph over
> them." (Goldwyn Smith, Jewish professor of modern history at Oxford
> university, October, 1981)
>
> For White Unity,
> J Johnson

Crusader, racists in Germany did did absolutely the same between 1933
and 1945. And they were far more effective than marxists if you take
into account the murdered people per year.

So you are in absolutely no position to judge.

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Fantomas wrote:

In any case, what it says about " queers " and about women being
submissive and wearing veils is part of the Old Law, the talmudic law,

that Jesus made irrelevant.
-----------------
Wrong again, moron. St. Paul, in the 'New Testament' says that you
should not associate with queers and that women should submit to their
husbands. I think St. Paul is a better authority than you, Fantomas.
Moreover, the book of Leviticus is in the Old Testament (Torah), not the
Talmud. There is a big difference. The Old Testament is acknowledged by
Christians as well as Jews.
-------------------


For White Unity,
J Johnson

-------------------------------------------------------

Michael Ejercito

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In article <vfNS2.1699$IS2....@monger.newsread.com>, "Duane Phinney"
<geno...@fdt.com> wrote:

> Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
> news:7fdu5d$njs$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >
> > Duane Phinney <geno...@fdt.com> wrote in message
> > news:DMsS2.1365$IS2....@monger.newsread.com...
> > > Let us reason together. The Jews spend thousands of man hours and
> millions
> > > of dollars every year harassing Christians and they call the Christians
> > the
> > > racists, it is about time we fought back
> > > As for the Bible, if you check you will find out that the Jews have a
> > > problem with God that the Christians do not.
> >
> > Another case of jealousy, for sure. How come I dont feel threatened?? Why
> is
> > it that more than 95% of the total population dont be threatened? How are
> > the Jews harassing you?? Why dont you take them to court??
> >
> > Just another case blatant anti-semiticism, I guess
>
> The Jews are trying to outlaw Christmas.
> The Jews sue any school board if any student (Christian) says a prayer.
> The Jews sue anyone who puts up a cross.
> This list could go on all night.

do you have any proof of this? Do you have any proof the Jew-run CIA
delivers cocaine to the united States of America via black helicopters?

Michael Ejercito

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In article <4781-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Arthur wrote:
>
> What J Johnson is actually trying to tell you folks is that
> percentage-wise Jews commit disproportionally low number of crimes, just
> because they know how to do their planning much better than Christian
> whites do. This is the same as calling white Christians stupid. Johnson,
> you're a Christian-hating racist bastard! arthur_k
> (i wonder if he has enough brains in his ass to understand what I just
> wrote)
> -------------------
> I wonder if 'you' understand what you just wrote!
>
> The Jew, David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) used his intelligence and insanity
> to terrorize New York City. How about that crazy Jew who fairly recently
> pushed some women to her death in the subway station because ghosts told
> him to do it? The "Chosen ones" are definitely on the eccentric side.
>

> For White Unity,
> J Johnson

And their jewishness made them do it? Are you really this dumb? Get
dressed for your next NAMBLA meeting.

Fantomas

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote after smoking crack :

> Moreover, the book of Leviticus is in the Old Testament (Torah), not the
> Talmud.

I know this. I meant that the talmudic law, which is based on the
Torah, is that which Jesus said was irrelevant as it had been
superseded by the new law. And anything about veils was definately
in the old law.


There is a big difference. The Old Testament is acknowledged by
> Christians as well as Jews.
> -------------------
> For White Unity,

How can you say you're for white unity with your attitude
towards Jews ?


> -------------------------------------------------------
> THIS TIME - together - WE SHALL DRIVE THE BASTARDS TO THE WALL! (George
> Lincoln Rockwell)

Quoting a noted anti-Christian, treasonous homosexual who was
killed by his gay lover. And once he drove those bastards to
the wall than he proceeded to fellate them...

> "Sine auctoritate nulla vita."
> (Without authority there is no life)

This from the same clown who denies the authority of the last
few popes and says that what the bishops say does not matter.
Of course, JJ picks and chooses his authority. The above
to him means, without authority of JJ Johnson there is no life.

> "Democracy, I do not conceive that ever God did ordain as a fit
> government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be
> governors, who shall be governed?" (John Cotton)

Quoting black blues singers...how about quoting Screamin' Jay
Hawkins instead.

> "It doesn't take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few
> determined leaders and a sound cause." (H. L. Mencken)

I love what Mencken said about white middle americans...he was a lot
harsher on them than any other group...

> "What is a Communist? One who hath yearnings for equal divison of
> unequal earnings." (Ebenezer Elliot)

What is a National Socialist ? A Communist with racial mumbo jumbo

Aviator

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<Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> No, but you are defending murder, rape, torture, and the persecution of
> the innocent. Those, after all, have been the hallmarks of racists
> throughout the ages, any time they managed to obtain enough power to
> crawl out from under their rocks.
> -------------------
> Oh, really? The "innocent" Jewish Marxist filth have murdered millions
> upon millions of my people in the name of "equality" this century.
> The Jewish scum will get no quarter from me.

They dont need it from an insignificant cowardly moron like you!


>
>
> "Some call it Marxism, I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
> S. Wise, May 5, 1935)
>
> "We Jews regard our race as superior to all humanity, and look forward,
> not to its ultimate union with the other races, but to its triumph over
> them." (Goldwyn Smith, Jewish professor of modern history at Oxford
> university, October, 1981)
>
>

> For White Unity,
> J Johnson
>
>

> -------------------------------------------------------
> THIS TIME - together - WE SHALL DRIVE THE BASTARDS TO THE WALL! (George
> Lincoln Rockwell)

> -------------------------------------------------------


> "Sine auctoritate nulla vita."
> (Without authority there is no life)

> -------------------------------------------------------


> "Democracy, I do not conceive that ever God did ordain as a fit
> government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be
> governors, who shall be governed?" (John Cotton)

> -------------------------------------------------------


> "It doesn't take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few
> determined leaders and a sound cause." (H. L. Mencken)

> -------------------------------------------------------


> "What is a Communist? One who hath yearnings for equal divison of
> unequal earnings." (Ebenezer Elliot)

Aviator

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<Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Fantomas wrote:
>
> In any case, what it says about " queers " and about women being
> submissive and wearing veils is part of the Old Law, the talmudic law,
> that Jesus made irrelevant.
> -----------------
> Wrong again, moron. St. Paul, in the 'New Testament' says that you
> should not associate with queers and that women should submit to their
> husbands. I think St. Paul is a better authority than you, Fantomas.
> Moreover, the book of Leviticus is in the Old Testament (Torah), not the
> Talmud. There is a big difference. The Old Testament is acknowledged by

> Christians as well as Jews.

Does this mean you submit to your husband, Mary??
> -------------------

Aviator

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<Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Arthur wrote:
>
> What J Johnson is actually trying to tell you folks is that
> percentage-wise Jews commit disproportionally low number of crimes, just
> because they know how to do their planning much better than Christian
> whites do. This is the same as calling white Christians stupid. Johnson,
> you're a Christian-hating racist bastard! arthur_k
> (i wonder if he has enough brains in his ass to understand what I just
> wrote)
> -------------------
> I wonder if 'you' understand what you just wrote!
>
> The Jew, David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) used his intelligence and insanity
> to terrorize New York City. How about that crazy Jew who fairly recently
> pushed some women to her death in the subway station because ghosts told
> him to do it? The "Chosen ones" are definitely on the eccentric side.

Dont forget Gacey, Dahmer, Bundy, McVeigh and all those other white mass
murderers

Aviator

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> Leave it to the leftists to twist and obfuscate 'everything.' I am not
> defending serial killers. I am simply saying that serial murder requires
> intelligence and planning. Intelligence and the ability to plan ahead
> are traits that negroes lack.

You support George Loeb, a cold blooded convicted murderer, so why would we
believe that you dont support serial killers??


>
> That is why there are not many negro serial killers. But there is no
> shortage of negro murderers, rapists, and armed robbers.

Far less than whites, who by the way lead the field in sexual assaults. 75%
of ALL such crimes are committed by whites, and often against their own
children. The sickest criminal scum around. And they are white

Che'Gu Maru

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> No, but you are defending murder, rape, torture, and the persecution of
> the innocent. Those, after all, have been the hallmarks of racists
> throughout the ages, any time they managed to obtain enough power to
> crawl out from under their rocks.
> -------------------
> Oh, really? The "innocent" Jewish Marxist filth have murdered millions
> upon millions of my people in the name of "equality" this century.
> The Jewish scum will get no quarter from me.

Who really ARE your people? Perhaps a better question would be WHAT are
your people? The Gestapo? The SS? In that case I salute those who killed
them -- for those killers include my family and every other American soldier
who fought and bled in World War II.

Other than that -- you might well take note of the fact that demographically
the Jews were a small, small minority in the Soviet Union. Neither Lenin
nor Stalin were Jewish at all, nor were over 98% of the government apparatus
which did the work of the tyranny they instituted. But, of course, it
wouldn't fit your program to admit that those men were the product of
CHRISTIAN Orthodox families, now, would it?


applej...@webtv.net

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Crusader , from your posts today ...its seems like you had a RARE day
off from work....what a surprise..
More importantly ...you spread such evil lies and the very least I
hope you get what you deserve sooner than later...what happened in
Colorado usually is the result of hate groups from yourself.....Hope you
end up in jail getting up the ass ..Either way . your supreme white way
is not Christian way...You are the devil and 99 percent of the
population know it..Your crud lose and will always lose... ..when God
made people, he also gave people the ability to choose their life.Many
of your kind come from dysfunctional families and instead of
understanding that dilemma.you react into rage towards others...The
bottom line is people have a responsiblity to be civil...most can see
your kind as evil with little hope of redemption .Trust me Jesus .would
not go near you ..if he was alive..God has a plan for your kind ..so
hope it sizzles good in next .


Che'Gu Maru

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IF the Jews really did have a plan to start killing Americans, I'd hope
they'd begin with you. (Oh, where is a killer Rabbi when you need one????)

But the truth of the matter is, if anyone were going to begin killing
Americans you'd be safe -- since you are as opposite from a real American as
might possibly be imagined. Real Americans, after all, are those willing to
serve in their armed forces -- and that includes taking an oath to "Defend
and protect the Constitution of the United States." Since you despise the
Constitution, you could hardly take such an oath (although, I have to admit
since you have lied about everything else, you'd probably lie about that,
too.)

Still, the point is that real Americans believe in the Bill of Rights -- all
of it, including the Second Amendment which some so-called liberals want to
ignore. It also includes the First Amendment, which is why we are
honor-bound to tolerate letting people speak their minds -- even when all
that is in those minds is the trash which fills yours. You are precisely
like the Communists of the 1950's -- you'll hide behind the freedoms we
guarantee you, even while doing your damnedest to destroy those same
freedoms.

Well, I have news for you. America is stronger than your kind will ever
be. We are strong enough to tolerate even you, though we gag doing so ...


Crusad...@webtv.net

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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

Other than that -- you might well take note of the fact that
demographically the Jews were a small, small minority in the Soviet
Union. Neither Lenin nor Stalin were Jewish at all, nor were over 98% of
the government apparatus which did the work of the tyranny they
instituted. But, of course, it wouldn't fit your program to admit that
those men were the product of CHRISTIAN Orthodox families, now, would
it?

---------------
Jews such as Trotsky, Jacob Schiff, Yagoda, L.P. Beria etc., are
responsible for the murder of 100,000,000 Christians. They are the worst
mass murderers of all time.

Visit: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-USSR.html

For White Unity,
J Johnson

-------------------------------------------------------


THIS TIME - together - WE SHALL DRIVE THE BASTARDS TO THE WALL! (George
Lincoln Rockwell)

-------------------------------------------------------
"Sine auctoritate nulla vita."
(Without authority there is no life)
-------------------------------------------------------
"Democracy, I do not conceive that ever God did ordain as a fit
government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be
governors, who shall be governed?" (John Cotton)
-------------------------------------------------------

"It doesn't take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few
determined leaders and a sound cause." (H. L. Mencken)
-------------------------------------------------------
"What is a Communist? One who hath yearnings for equal divison of
unequal earnings." (Ebenezer Elliot)

Thomas Mohr

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Wrong again, moron. St. Paul, in the 'New Testament' says that you
> should not associate with queers and that women should submit to their
> husbands. I think St. Paul is a better authority than you, Fantomas.
> Moreover, the book of Leviticus is in the Old Testament (Torah), not the
> Talmud. There is a big difference. The Old Testament is acknowledged by
> Christians as well as Jews.

> -------------------


> For White Unity,
> J Johnson

Johnson, you defend heretics - and probably are one - you are not in the
position to judge.

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Ejercito wrote: 

and there are many more White rapists and muggers than Negro muggers and
rapists. Statistically,you are more likely to be robbed by a White
person than a Black person.  

Michael
 CSULB College Republicans
 For Lies,Obstruction of Justice,Marxism,and the Jewish Way - LOL!
---------------------
Negroes commit 'far' more crimes than whites on a per capita basis.
Everyone knows this. Your lies and obfuscations don't fool anyone.

Whites will continue to lock their car doors at a traffic light in a
negro neighborhood - and that is a smart move if you value your car -
and your life.

For White Unity,
J Johnson

-------------------------------------------------------

applej...@webtv.net

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This hate ,,take notice of it...mix in a few guns , some impressionable
teens ,and a society that allows people (crusader and the hate
groups )to breed ,,and you get evil...that simple.When good people do
nothing ...as the saying goes...so next time you see or hear this
tripe...do more than nothing....The hate groups are probably partly
responsible for the carnage in Colorado according to news reports..


Michael Ejercito

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In article <6312-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Ejercito wrote:=A0

>
> and there are many more White rapists and muggers than Negro muggers and
> rapists. Statistically,you are more likely to be robbed by a White

> person than a Black person. =A0
>
> Michael
> =A0CSULB College Republicans
> =A0For Lies,Obstruction of Justice,Marxism,and the Jewish Way - LOL!


> ---------------------
> Negroes commit 'far' more crimes than whites on a per capita basis.
> Everyone knows this. Your lies and obfuscations don't fool anyone.
>

Statistically speaking,White people are more oliklely to be
robbed,raped,or murdered by a White person than a Negro. That is a FACT.


Michael


CSULB College Republicans


For Truth,Justice,Freedom,and the American Way

Che'Gu Maru

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> Other than that -- you might well take note of the fact that
> demographically the Jews were a small, small minority in the Soviet
> Union. Neither Lenin nor Stalin were Jewish at all, nor were over 98% of
> the government apparatus which did the work of the tyranny they
> instituted. But, of course, it wouldn't fit your program to admit that
> those men were the product of CHRISTIAN Orthodox families, now, would
> it?
> ---------------
> Jews such as Trotsky, Jacob Schiff, Yagoda, L.P. Beria etc., are
> responsible for the murder of 100,000,000 Christians. They are the worst
> mass murderers of all time.

I doubt you can document that those victims were uniformly believing
Christians, or that they were executed for being Christian. Neither can you
prove that any of the people you cite as the villains were doing so out of
their Jewish backgrounds. Amazingly, you utterly ignore the far more
important fact of their having been Communist ideologues (much as the way
you yourself are a racist ideologue). History shows that true believers
like them (and you) will blithely kill anyone whom they feel is not in
accord with their ideology.

Your reasoning follows this pattern: Those men were killers. Those men
were Jews. Therefore Jews are killers.

That has been recognized as a fallacy since at least the time of Aristotle.
The same argument could equally be reworded: Those men were white. Those
men were killers. Therefore all whites are killers.

or

Those men were meat eaters. Those men were killers. Therefore all meat
eaters are killers.

But the one I prefer best is:

Those men were fanatics. Those men were killers. You are a fanatic.
Therefore you are a killer ...


Che'Gu Maru

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applej...@webtv.net wrote:

They are far more than "partly responsible." Moreover, if the school
administrators had been permitted to come to school armed, much of this
tragedy may have been abated. My fear is that rather than seeing this as
the result of racism and hatred, our government's response will be to
further reduce the right of law-abiding people to possess firearms with
which to defend themselves against the racist hatemongers.


ready...@my-dejanews.com

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Slam those Jews in ovens.

In article <371CFDDA...@magnet.at>,


Thomas Mohr <thoma...@magnet.at> wrote:
> Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > Wrong again, moron. St. Paul, in the 'New Testament' says that you
> > should not associate with queers and that women should submit to their
> > husbands. I think St. Paul is a better authority than you, Fantomas.
> > Moreover, the book of Leviticus is in the Old Testament (Torah), not the
> > Talmud. There is a big difference. The Old Testament is acknowledged by
> > Christians as well as Jews.
> > -------------------

> > For White Unity,
> > J Johnson
>

> Johnson, you defend heretics - and probably are one - you are not in the
> position to judge.
>

-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------

Aviator

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Duane Phinney <geno...@fdt.com> wrote in message
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>
> Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message
> news:7fdu5d$njs$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >
> > Duane Phinney <geno...@fdt.com> wrote in message
> > news:DMsS2.1365$IS2....@monger.newsread.com...
> > > Let us reason together. The Jews spend thousands of man hours and
> millions
> > > of dollars every year harassing Christians and they call the
Christians
> > the
> > > racists, it is about time we fought back
> > > As for the Bible, if you check you will find out that the Jews have a
> > > problem with God that the Christians do not.
> >
> > Another case of jealousy, for sure. How come I dont feel threatened??
Why
> is
> > it that more than 95% of the total population dont be threatened? How
are
> > the Jews harassing you?? Why dont you take them to court??
> >
> > Just another case blatant anti-semiticism, I guess
>
> The Jews are trying to outlaw Christmas.
> The Jews sue any school board if any student (Christian) says a prayer.
> The Jews sue anyone who puts up a cross.
> This list could go on all night.

Crap. If theyre going to sue you, sue them back

Asshole


>
> >
> > >
> > > Aviator <S...@tter.com> wrote in message

> > > news:7fc3or$mv5$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > > >
> > > > <Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:1351-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > > > Kimberly wrote,
> > > > >
> > > > > And I don't know about you, but I feel much more threatened by
> > Baptists,
> > > > > who follow a group that has declared itself the supervisor of
> everyone
> > > > > else's personal life.
> > > > > ------------------
> > > > > That's called civilization, Kimmy.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong asshole. Ot called Nazi fascism. You and your asshole buddies
> > would
> > > > love to practice it in the open, but youre too damned chickenshit,
so
> > you
> > > do
> > > > it from behind a computer keyboard. Youre nothing more than a craven
> > > racist
> > > > coward
> > > >
> > > > Society supervised Jeffrey Dahmer's
> > > > > personal life by telling him that he would have to start mopping
> > floors
> > > > > in prison to fill his spare time instead of engaging in
necrophilia
> > and
> > > > > cannibalism. Necrophilia, cannibalism, and murdering our helpless,
> > > > > unborn children is not very nice, Kimmy.


> > > >
> > > > Yup. And it's also interesting to note that the vast majority of
> serial

> > > > killers and mass murderers are not black or Jewish, but white like
our
> > > > little hate peddling bigot
> > > >

> > > > >That's the reason for law; to supervise.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong, Mr Shithouse Lawyer! The law sets the reasonable parameters
of
> > > > within which all people must live. It has no quality of self
> enforcement
> > > to
> > > > give it the ability to supervise.
> > > >
> > > > >

> > > > > If you have a problem with Christian morality, which you obviously
> do,
> > > > > then why live in a country that is majority Christian?
> > > >
> > > > You are the last person in the world to speak of morality after
having
> > > > exhibited the morals of a gutter rat in every item you post. As for
> > being
> > > > Christian, that has got to be the most hypocritical statement a
hating
> > > > racist like you can make
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > Your tribe is 3% of the population.
> > > >
> > > > And your little conglomorate of racist/supremist groups doesnt even
> > > comprise
> > > > 1% of the population
> > > >
> > > > You and yours have no right to force your lawless,
> > > > > egalitarian, anarchist ideology on the Gentile, Christian
majority.
> > > >
> > > > You seem to forget that more than 95% of that Gentile, Christian
> > majority,
> > > > does not support or approve of your supremist ideology. You are part
> of
> > a
> > > > pathetic minority of bigots who in no way represent the majority of
> > white
> > > > people in this country
> > > >
> > > > > Israel is waiting for you!
> > > >
> > > > What is waiting for a minority bigot like you?? Nothing, except a
life
> > of
> > > > bitterness and hating. With your character, I wouldnt be surprised
if
> > you
> > > > ended up in prison


> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For White Unity,
> > > > > J Johnson
> > > > >

> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > There is one single fact which we may oppose to all the wit and
> > argument
> > > > > of infidelity, namely, that no man ever repented of being a
> Christian
> > on
> > > > > his deathbed." (Hannah More)

> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > "Sine auctoritate nulla vita."
> > > > > (Without authority there is no life)
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > "Democracy, I do not conceive that ever God did ordain as a fit
> > > > > government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be
> > > > > governors, who shall be governed?" (John Cotton)
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------

> > > > > "A place for everything, everything in its place." (Benjamin
> Franklin)
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > "One person with a belief is equal to a force of ninety-nine who
> have
> > > > > only interests." (John Stuart Mill)

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Obfuscate all you want, Gu man! The fact remains! The Jews are
responsible for the murder of 100,000,000 Gentiles.

The Jews have been expelled from Gentile nations throughout history
because of their subversion and usury. The Jews are nothing but
parasitical, nation-wrecking scum!

Visit: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-USSR.html

For White Unity,
J Johnson

"Sine auctoritate nulla vita."


(Without authority there is no life)

Western Imperative Network
http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm

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government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be
governors, who shall be governed?" (John Cotton)
-------------------------------------------------------

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determined leaders and a sound cause." (H. L. Mencken)

-------------------------------------------------------
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as the multiplication table a week later." (Wendell Phillips)
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Jim Collier

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> Other than that -- you might well take note of the fact that
> demographically the Jews were a small, small minority in the Soviet
> Union. Neither Lenin nor Stalin were Jewish at all, nor were over 98% of
> the government apparatus which did the work of the tyranny they
> instituted. But, of course, it wouldn't fit your program to admit that
> those men were the product of CHRISTIAN Orthodox families, now, would
> it?
> ---------------
> Jews such as Trotsky, Jacob Schiff, Yagoda, L.P. Beria etc., are
> responsible for the murder of 100,000,000 Christians. They are the worst
> mass murderers of all time.

What an unread moron. _The Great Terror_ by Robert Conquest
describes in detail the 1930s purges. His book is accepted as
authoritative both in Russia and in the United States.

Trotsky, the least murderous of the Soviet murderers, was forced out
of power in 1924 as Josef Stalin came to power. *Stalin's* forced
collectivizations beginning in the Ukraine in 1928 unleased famine,
followed by famine, followed by purges, followed by more purges,
followed by purges of the officer corps, followed by a pact with
Hitler followed by approximately 28 million dead in the war, with
perhaps another 20 million dead in the famines and pre-war purges.
In fact, the killings increased almost in inverse proportion to the
number of Jews allowed to remain in the Kremlin. Mass murder was
Stalin's doing, Stalin the former Christian seminary student.

The poster in his usual ignorance mentions people such as the murderous
Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria, a Georgian Christian who like Stalin had
adopted a Russian name. (If you asked the moron who Beria was, I
wager he could not tell you. Few Soviets, even those born long after
his execution, were ignorant of who he was.) The few Jews in power in
Stalin's time actually moderated the killings, heading off orders for
executions, and occasionally subverted the Wise Commissar's disastrous
agricultural policies.

The moron thinks the Joos were behind Mao, too. No, Cru, Jews may
like Chinese take-out, but there simply aren't any Jews in charge in
Beijing. And no, Cru, David Berkowitz ("Son of Sam") isn't Jewish,
and wasn't raised Jewish. But it's for sure you were raised Trash
and won't ever amount to anything, even after you are old enough to
drag your imaginary kid and imaginary middle class wife on trips to
UCSB.

Left unanswered is how this piece of trash could have a "middle class
wife".

Jim Collier

Che'Gu Maru

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Obfuscate all you want, Gu man! The fact remains! The Jews are
> responsible for the murder of 100,000,000 Gentiles.
>
> The Jews have been expelled from Gentile nations throughout history
> because of their subversion and usury. The Jews are nothing but
> parasitical, nation-wrecking scum!
>

Like the Pretender on Television says, "Today I'll be a Jew." Jews have
been expelled because the ethical values taught by Judaism force Jews to
speak out and stand against tyrants. It is as simple as that.

Every one of the ethical values expressed in Christianity came from
Judaism. Most of the viciousness came from the various non-Jewish sources
which were absorbed into Christianity as it spread across the ancient
world. (But I suppose you have never learned about the relationship between
Astartes's fertility symbols of rabbit and eggs and that of the way Easter
(a respelling of Astarte, by the way) is now celebrated? And that is merely
item among many.

On the other hand, a Jewish Rabbi stated the golden rule a generation before
Jesus was born.

So people like you really do have good reason to hate the Jews. The ethical
values they teach to the world are diametrically opposed to everything you
stand for. In ancient times, you would have been among the Priests of
Moloch throwing babies into the fire. Today, your sort satisfies itself
with slaughtering and raping innocent women and children -- whenever it gets
the chance to do so.

Since you expressed such an admiration for the Serbians, why don't you go to
Serbia and join its army so you can fight against the black and brown and
Jewish and Muslim and Sikh and Hindu and Buddhist American soldiers who will
be going there to stop you.

If the Serbs are your brothers, I am certainly a brother to every American
serving in our armed forces today. Of course, I feel that way because
once-upon-a-time I up and volunteered for the military myself (and during a
time when that was not a socially respectable thing to do). But you
wouldn't understand that at all, would you, since you understand nothing
about the real meaning of being an American?


Aviator

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<Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Obfuscate all you want, Gu man! The fact remains! The Jews are
> responsible for the murder of 100,000,000 Gentiles.

Obfuscation?? What an idiot your are!! Che suggested you cannot prove your
case, (which you clearly cannot!) and you accuse him of obfuscation!! Loser
tactics


>
> The Jews have been expelled from Gentile nations throughout history
> because of their subversion and usury. The Jews are nothing but
> parasitical, nation-wrecking scum!

Racist mantra. Bleat on O ignorant hater!! Just as a matter of interest,
usury has been illegal in the USA for over 150 years, so you can't accuse
them of that!!!

In this country the Jews have a place in society you would love to occupy,
but never will. They have power, respect and money. What have you got??
hatred, and more hatred

Guess what??

You lose, moron!!

Aviator

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<Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Ejercito wrote:

and there are many more White rapists and muggers than Negro muggers and
rapists. Statistically,you are more likely to be robbed by a White
person than a Black person.

Michael
CSULB College Republicans


For Lies,Obstruction of Justice,Marxism,and the Jewish Way - LOL!
---------------------
>Negroes commit 'far' more crimes than whites on a per capita basis.
>Everyone knows this. Your lies and obfuscations don't fool anyone.

Then why do you racist morons have to fiddle the statistics ?? Its simple.
Becausre there are far more white criminals that black. You just cant handle
the truth can you Johnny??

>Whites will continue to lock their car doors at a traffic light in a
>negro neighborhood - and that is a smart move if you value your car -
>and your life.

Do you have a survey that proves this wild claim of yours??

Just because you are a chickenshit coward, doesnt mean everyone else is

>For White Unity,
>J Johnson

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government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be
governors, who shall be governed?" (John Cotton)
-------------------------------------------------------
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determined leaders and a sound cause." (H. L. Mencken)
-------------------------------------------------------

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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

Like the Pretender on Television says, "Today I'll be a Jew." Jews have
been expelled because the ethical values taught by Judaism force Jews to
speak out and stand against tyrants. It is as simple as that.
Every one of the ethical values expressed in Christianity came from
Judaism.

--------------------
Really? Lets examine some Jewish ethics, shall we?

Here are some quotes from the main "holy book" of Judaism, the Talmud:

Gittin 57a: Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in
hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

Eban Haezar: All non-Jewesses are whores.

Zohar II 43a: Extermination of Christians is a necessary sacrifice.

Abodan Zarah 26b: Even the best of the Gentiles deserves to be killed.

Rasoni, Exodus14: The best of the Christians must be strangulated.

Berachoth: The Jews were created to be served by non-Jews. The latter
must plow, sow, weed, dig, mow, bind, sieve and grind. The Jews are
created to find all this in readiness.

Schulchan Aruch: It is always a meritorious deed for a Jew to get hold
of a Gentile's possessions.

Baba Kama, 113a, 113b: A Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.
The name of God is not profaned when lying to Christians.

Libbre David 37: To communicate anything to a Goy (Gentile) about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

Baba Mezia: Jews are human beings; the other people of the world are not
human beings, but beasts.

To learn more about Jewish atrocities against Gentiles (non-Jews),
visit: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-USSR.html

For White Unity,
J Johnson

"Sine auctoritate nulla vita."
(Without authority there is no life)

Western Imperative Network
http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm

-------------------------------------------------------


THIS TIME - together - WE SHALL DRIVE THE BASTARDS TO THE WALL! (George
Lincoln Rockwell)
-------------------------------------------------------

Democracy, I do not conceive that ever God did ordain as a fit
government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be
governors, who shall be governed?" (John Cotton)
-------------------------------------------------------
"It doesn't take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few
determined leaders and a sound cause." (H. L. Mencken)
-------------------------------------------------------

"What is fanaticism today is the fashionable creed tomorrow, and trite
as the multiplication table a week later." (Wendell Phillips)
-------------------------------------------------------

"What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black
races." (Abraham Lincoln)
-------------------------------------------------------

Jew Watch
http://www.jewwatch.com

Politically Incorrect
http://www.sound.net/~fenix/PI-index.html

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Collier wrote:

And no, Cru, David Berkowitz ("Son of Sam") isn't Jewish, and wasn't
raised Jewish. But it's for sure you were raised Trash and won't ever
amount to anything, even after you are old enough to drag your imaginary
kid and imaginary middle class wife on trips to UCSB.
Left unanswered is how this piece of trash could have a "middle class
wife".
Jim Collier

--------------------------
Collier, in typical Jewish fashion, resorts to outright lies! Berkowitz
is a Jew who converted to Christianity in Attica Prison. This is common
knowledge to any Criminal Justice student, and Collier expects us to
believe his lies!

L.P. Beria, also was a Jew.

When did I ever say anything about taking a "middle class wife and kids"
on any trips, you silly Jewish moron? I know you want to get information
on me Jewboy! But I won't be fooled into giving you any, Jewboy. You
don't know whether I have a wife and kids or not. Stick to your silly
theory that I am an elderly queer who works in a mill. LOL!!

Jim Collier

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Collier wrote:
>
> And no, Cru, David Berkowitz ("Son of Sam") isn't Jewish, and wasn't
> raised Jewish. But it's for sure you were raised Trash and won't ever
> amount to anything, even after you are old enough to drag your imaginary
> kid and imaginary middle class wife on trips to UCSB.
> Left unanswered is how this piece of trash could have a "middle class
> wife".
> Jim Collier
> --------------------------
> Berkowitz
> is a Jew who converted to Christianity in Attica Prison.

Nope. He was adopted. Also, he had become a Baptist while he
was in the military in 1971, five years before he started
his murder streak. Your mass murderer was actually a Jesus
freak. Of course I have no doubt that the remorse that a mass
murderer felt later made him turn back to a cult that said, "That's
okay. Nobody's perfect. Jesus forgives you even if none of your
victims' relatives do."

> This is common knowledge to any Criminal Justice student

You're a criminal justice student now, are you?


> L.P. Beria, also was a Jew.

Nope, nor did religious Jews give their children patronymics.
Trostsky, for instance, adopted one. But he was Jewish which
made his all the more remarkable.



> When did I ever say anything about taking a "middle class wife and kids"
> on any trips

Posted by Crusader3278<Crusad...@webtv.net> 17 Apr 99

http://x17.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=qs]/getdoc.xp?AN=467775300.1

"You see, the Ole Ygg decided to visit [UCSB] a while back with
Mrs. Ygg and Ygg Jr. The Ygg family happened into a dormitory, and
in a glass case the ever observant Ole Ygg spotted a document entitled
'Date Rape Guidelines.'"

The story you told was essentially the same as the parody made by
Rush Limbaugh.

> I know you want to get information
> on me Jewboy!

I already have information on you and your several accounts. There
are only two of you making most of the trash noise in alt.california.
In truth, you're a couple of 19-year-olds.

> But I won't be fooled into giving you any, Jewboy. You
> don't know whether I have a wife and kids or not. Stick to your silly
> theory that I am an elderly queer who works in a mill. LOL!!

No, you're not elderly. The rest is right on. You are celibate and
you've never been near a woman, and you almost certainly never will,
and if you should change, the memory of this phase in your life will
damn you to a lifetime of impotence and loneliness. You are
permanently fucked like John Edgar's boy Clyde Tolson.

You've also never been in Santa Barbara.

JC

ipm

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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

> Other than that -- you might well take note of the fact that demographically
> the Jews were a small, small minority in the Soviet Union. Neither Lenin
> nor Stalin were Jewish at all, nor were over 98% of the government apparatus
> which did the work of the tyranny they instituted. But, of course, it
> wouldn't fit your program to admit that those men were the product of
> CHRISTIAN Orthodox families, now, would it?

Total nonsense. Jews were the majority of the Bolshevik leaders. Lenin was at
least a quarter Jewish. Stalin wasn't a Jew, but was married to a Jewess. Also
His right-hand man was a Jew, and his daughter was married to a Jew!

Here, educate yourself:

http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/comm_1.html


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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

> Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > Obfuscate all you want, Gu man! The fact remains! The Jews are
> > responsible for the murder of 100,000,000 Gentiles.
> >

> > The Jews have been expelled from Gentile nations throughout history
> > because of their subversion and usury. The Jews are nothing but
> > parasitical, nation-wrecking scum!
> >
>

> Like the Pretender on Television says, "Today I'll be a Jew." Jews have
> been expelled because the ethical values taught by Judaism force Jews to
> speak out and stand against tyrants. It is as simple as that.

That's hilarious! But I'll agree that is was Jewish vales, Talmudic values that
is, which allowed the Jews to butcher millions of gentiles without an once of
remorse. After all, the Talmud teaches Jews that non-Jews are merely cattle to
be used as God's Pets see fit. So they wanted to slaughter a few dozen million
"cattle," why would they care? Its not like they were killing actual human
beings, just non-Jews.


> On the other hand, a Jewish Rabbi stated the golden rule a generation before
> Jesus was born.

The Jewish version only applies to other Jews. Towards non-Jews they perpetuate
envy, hate, and contempt.

Mike

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Really? Lets examine some Jewish ethics, shall we?

Yea...I know some embarassing white people like that too. It
would be neat if we could put you all on an island somewhere and let you
work out your prejudices while the other 99.999% of the people in the world
live in peace.


/\/\ike

Fantomas

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The Talmud is not the main holy book of Judaism, it is a commentary
on the Old Testament which contains a series of debates on a variety
of subjects. In some of those debates, for the sake of argument,
sometimes a posture was taken that was quite horrendous. That is the
nature of debating.

Fantomas

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Stalin was responsible for kicking Jews out of the leadership of
the Russian Communist Party. That was one of the purposes of the
purges and show trials - to de-Judaise the Russian power structure.
It is true in the early years of the USSR there were a number of
Jews in high places ; given the czarist regime's record as being
the most militantly antisemitic the world would see until the
advent of Hitler, in which systematic extermination was considered,
it is not surprising that many Jews supported whoever was against
the Czar. During the early years of communism there were a number
of Jews in power, however when Stalin came to power this changed.
Stalin at the end of his life was planning a new holocaust which
would rid Russia of Jews a la Nazi Germany.

Jim Collier

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There isn't anything in the Talmud that says to murder, cheat or
otherwise abuse Christians. Life itself is the highest value to
Jews, and to take any life without just cause the greatest evil.
That's why Jews were doctors in medieval times.

And Jews didn't think it was morally wrong to charge rent for money
lent out -- actually, only a parasite thinks he can tie up somebody
else's money for free -- and therefore became the financiers of
projects that nobody else had the enterprise to back.

Getting back to the value of life - Jews aren't concerned with a
hereafter. Some believe in one, others don't, and this was true
even when all Jews were "Orthodox", i.e., before there were Reformed
or Conservative congregations, which arose in Germany in the 19th
century. What Jews believe in is life right here in this place in this
time, and one only gets one chance at it. Therefore, one had better
make the most of it. That combined with the pressure of having to
be better in order to survive ignorant peasants like the two infantiles
who are posing as six people in this newsgroup is what made Jews
prominent in so many measures of excellence.

In Judaism it is better to be a morning person than a night person.
Sunrise has more opportunity that sunset. You won't find many alarm
clocks in Jewish bedrooms set for later than 6:30 am. Ours is usually
set for 5:45. Ever notice how animated Jews can be in conversation?
It's a disgrace to divorce yourself from life.

Who has read _Atlas Shrugged_? It's one secular Jew's version of the
way the world should be. It's not my version any longer (I was quite
active in the Objectivist Movement in the 1960s, but I'm a card-carrying
liberal Democrat now), but I recognize Ayn Rand's values. When she and
Milton Friedman and other Jewish libertarians talk about limited
government, they aren't talking about an institution that isn't the
guarantor of civil liberties. They're talking about *life*.

Constrast them with the doddering old non-aspiring, twangy-voiced,
whitebread, Florida Panhandle trailer park trash in the audio sound
clip at the National Alliance Website. Think of one of those
flatlander hillbillies inventing a polio vaccine.

I need shorter adjectives. "Purposeless" fits in the first sentence
above.

When a mostly Jewish group in Venice set up a halfway house for
other people's drugged out kids (although in the 70s, there were
plenty of strung out Jews too), they gave it a Latin name which
strangely few people understand: "Tuum Est".

Understand that and you understand everything.

JC

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Collier, I am not yggdrasil, you Jewish fool.

Jim Collier

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> Collier, I am not yggdrasil, you Jewish fool.

Whatever you say, Gladys.

Jim Collier

Che'Gu Maru

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ipm wrote:

> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> > Other than that -- you might well take note of the fact that demographically
> > the Jews were a small, small minority in the Soviet Union. Neither Lenin
> > nor Stalin were Jewish at all, nor were over 98% of the government apparatus
> > which did the work of the tyranny they instituted. But, of course, it
> > wouldn't fit your program to admit that those men were the product of
> > CHRISTIAN Orthodox families, now, would it?
>
> Total nonsense. Jews were the majority of the Bolshevik leaders. Lenin was at
> least a quarter Jewish. Stalin wasn't a Jew, but was married to a Jewess. Also
> His right-hand man was a Jew, and his daughter was married to a Jew!
>
> Here, educate yourself:
>

You seem to have a terribly loose definition of what it means to be a "Jew."
Moreover, you use the term 'right-hand man' without any other references.
Finally, I have read what Stalin's daughter has written (did you know that she
emigrated to the United States in the latter years of communism, but I do not know
if or not she is still alive). I do not recall her ever making any mention of her
spouse being Jewish but, if it were as significant a thing as you seem to want to
make it out to be, don't you think she would have mentioned it somewhere?


Che'Gu Maru

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ipm wrote:

> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> > Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > > Obfuscate all you want, Gu man! The fact remains! The Jews are
> > > responsible for the murder of 100,000,000 Gentiles.
> > >
> > > The Jews have been expelled from Gentile nations throughout history
> > > because of their subversion and usury. The Jews are nothing but
> > > parasitical, nation-wrecking scum!
> > >
> >
> > Like the Pretender on Television says, "Today I'll be a Jew." Jews have
> > been expelled because the ethical values taught by Judaism force Jews to
> > speak out and stand against tyrants. It is as simple as that.
>
> That's hilarious! But I'll agree that is was Jewish vales, Talmudic values that
> is, which allowed the Jews to butcher millions of gentiles without an once of
> remorse. After all, the Talmud teaches Jews that non-Jews are merely cattle to
> be used as God's Pets see fit. So they wanted to slaughter a few dozen million
> "cattle," why would they care? Its not like they were killing actual human
> beings, just non-Jews.

Again, you make statements with no proof nor justification, and expect us to be
stupid enough to simply sit back and swallow them. Unfortunately for you, we have
already proven your main contention to be false, and repeating it endlessly as a
litany won't help improve its truth value one iota.

>
>
> > On the other hand, a Jewish Rabbi stated the golden rule a generation before
> > Jesus was born.
>
> The Jewish version only applies to other Jews. Towards non-Jews they perpetuate
> envy, hate, and contempt.

How would you know? By the way, that statement was made by a rabbi to a NON-JEW,
which rather obviates your snide remark, doesn't it?


Che'Gu Maru

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> Che'Gu Maru wrote:
>
> Like the Pretender on Television says, "Today I'll be a Jew." Jews have
> been expelled because the ethical values taught by Judaism force Jews to
> speak out and stand against tyrants. It is as simple as that.

> Every one of the ethical values expressed in Christianity came from
> Judaism.
> --------------------

> Really? Lets examine some Jewish ethics, shall we?
>

> Here are some quotes from the main "holy book" of Judaism, the Talmud:
>

You are showing your ignorance. The only holy book of Judaism is the Torah,
which is (with a few translational and organizational differences) the Old
Testament of Christianity.

The Talmud is a collection of scholarly debates about issues of Jewish law.
Just as you will find some rather strange things in the Congressional
Record, should you ever choose to look, so will you find strange appearing
things in the Talmud -- ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TAKE THOSE THINGS OUT OF
CONTEXT!
(But we already know how your group took the writing of Samuel Clemens out
of context to make it look as if he supported your sick view of the world.
Why should we expect anything differently from you regarding other works.

The sort of thing you engage in is considered to be as debased as plagiarism
in the area of scholarship. Therefore, on an intellectual level the way you
debate is about as low as one can get ...)


MaryaM5111

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Subject: Re: Trench Coat Mafia
From: ernst...@aol.com (ERNSTROEDR)
Date: Fri, Apr 23, 1999 1:08 PM
Message-id: <19990423140822...@ng-ch1.aol.com>

The young punks who did the killings at COLUMBINE in colorado are JEWISH
RACIST'S. Dylan Klebold's grandfather was LEO YASSENOFF, a very prominent jew
in columbus, ohio, that is why they went around killing only white christians,
with the exception of the one black, and they used him to confuse the issue.

MaryaM5111

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arth...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <19990423231327...@ng-ft1.aol.com>,


any proof, any reliable source, bitch???

arthur_k

arth...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <372125A1...@mail.hal-pc.org>,
Che'Gu Maru <chgu...@mail.hal-pc.org> wrote:

> ipm wrote:
>
> > Che'Gu Maru wrote:
> >

Of course it's mentioned, you imbecile.
Her name was Svetlana Alliluyeva (by her mather's maiden name), and
the book was Memouars of Svetlana Alliluyeva.
She was a bit out of her saddle late in life, but it's all there, in the
book ... that's if you know how to read.

arth...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <4781-371...@newsd-284.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:

> The Jew, David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) used his intelligence and insanity
> to terrorize New York City. How about that crazy Jew who fairly recently
> pushed some women to her death in the subway station because ghosts told
> him to do it? The "Chosen ones" are definitely on the eccentric side.


> For White Unity,
> J Johnson

Ra-a-a-aht, JJ.

Now we finally understand why there's so much violence in this country:
it's the 6 million american jews, who are doing all the killings, raping
and robberies.

Man, oh man, ah'm tellin' ya, there ain't a single fuckin trailer park
in the good ol' USA, where ya can feel safe because of those fuckin' jews!!!

Hey, jj, how long have you been on the run from the asylum?

MaryaM5111

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Che'Gu Maru

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MaryaM5111 wrote:

If you're idea of Christians really WERE true, then the world would be better off
without them. As it is, Christians are quite different from that and, in general,
the world is far better for them being in it. In your case, however, one cannot
say the same -- you make the world dirty by your presence, and the world would be
a cleaner place in your absence.


MaryaM5111

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<<any proof, any reliable source, bitch???

arthur_k
>>


Date: Sat, Apr 24, 1999 9:47 AM
Message-id: <3721D99C...@usaor.net>

Just in:

Here is something you will likely never read anywhere else. I am quoting
the front page of today's Columbus, Ohio, Dispatch. The article is
entitled "Mother of one killer grew up in Bexley." Bexley is largely a
Jewish ghetto. A very nice ghetto, but nevertheless a ghetto, continguous
to Columbus.

The mother of the (alleged) killer Dylan Klebold, is Susan Yassenoff
Klebold. She is a granddaughter of Leo Yassenoff " . . . a philanthropist
in the Columbus Jewish community and donor to the Leo Yassenoff Jewish
Community center of Columbus. . . which bears his name."

Well, so much for the alleged nazi connection. The plot thickens.

--


Aviator

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> Collier, I am not yggdrasil, you Jewish fool.

Damned right!!! Youre nobody

ROFL!!!!


>
> For White Unity,
> J Johnson
>

Che'Gu Maru

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>
> Of course it's mentioned, you imbecile.
> Her name was Svetlana Alliluyeva (by her mather's maiden name), and
> the book was Memouars of Svetlana Alliluyeva.
> She was a bit out of her saddle late in life, but it's all there, in the
> book ... that's if you know how to read.
>

Make you a deal -- I'll learn to read about the same time you learn to spell.


Che'Gu Maru

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MaryaM5111 wrote:
Subject: Re: Trench Coat Mafia
From: ernst...@aol.com (ERNSTROEDR)
Date: Fri, Apr 23, 1999 1:08 PM
Message-id: <19990423140822...@ng-ch1.aol.com>

The young punks who did the killings at COLUMBINE in colorado are JEWISH
RACIST'S. Dylan Klebold's grandfather was LEO YASSENOFF, a very prominent jew
in columbus, ohio, that is why they went around killing only white christians,
with the exception of the one black, and they used him to confuse the issue.

One simple piece of data shows that you are again lying through your teeth, this time to divert attention from the fact that the primary motivation for the slaughter was the poisoning of young minds with your sort of racial hatred.

One very simple piece of data:  the family clergyman who will conduct the service for the family of one of the dead killers is LUTHERAN!

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

You are showing your ignorance. The only holy book of Judaism is the
Torah, which is (with a few translational and organizational
differences) the Old Testament of Christianity.

--------------
You are a liar. It is written in the Talmud that a Jew is to view the
Talmud as superior to the Torah (Old Testament). The Talmud is to
Judaism what the Catechism is to Catholicism, its 'main' book.

I didn't take anything "out of context." I simply show your Jews for
what they are. "The best of the Gentiles should be killed," is self
explanatory.

You keep defending the nation-wrecking Jews, Gu man! And I'll keep
exposing them as the miserable tribe of nation-wreckers that they are!

Che'Gu Maru

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Crusad...@webtv.net wrote:
Che'Gu Maru wrote:

You are showing your ignorance. The only holy book of Judaism is the
Torah, which is (with a few translational and organizational
differences) the Old Testament of Christianity.
--------------
You are a liar. It is written in the Talmud that a Jew is to view the
Talmud as superior to the Torah (Old Testament). The Talmud is to
Judaism what the Catechism is to Catholicism, its 'main' book.
 
 

Now it is REALLY your turn to demonstrate your ignorance.  But obviously everything you know about Jews is based on lies and distortions, so why ought I to be surprised?

Facts won't make any difference against impenetrable ignorance like yours, so why do I try?  Only to insure that others on here are not taken in by your blatant lies.  I challenge anyone who is really interested in the truth of this issue to check with such people as a professor of religious studies, a Lutheran, Presbyterian, or Methodist minister, or a Catholic priest.  Of course, the obvious one to check with would be a Rabbi, but the racists would say that is loading the dice.  Therefore, I only suggest checking with those who are educated but whom cannot be presumed to have a biased interest in the answer.

I didn't take anything "out of context." I simply show your Jews for
what they are. "The best of the Gentiles should be killed," is self
explanatory.

But you did take everything out of context.  Of course, if you yourself are incapable of understanding that context it is only your own fault.

You keep defending the nation-wrecking Jews, Gu man! And I'll keep
exposing them as the miserable tribe of nation-wreckers that they are!
 
 

No, the only thing you expose is your own hatred, despite, lack of self-worth, and true ignorance about Judaism, the United States, and reality in general

Crusad...@webtv.net

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Che'Gu Maru wrote:

Like the Pretender on Television says, "Today I'll be a Jew." Jews have
been expelled because the ethical values taught by Judaism force Jews to
speak out and stand against tyrants. It is as simple as that. Every one
of the ethical values expressed in Christianity came from Judaism.
--------------------

Really? Lets examine some Jewish ethics, shall we?

Here are some quotes from the main "holy book" of Judaism, the Talmud:

Gittin 57a: Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in
hot semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

Eban Haezar: All non-Jewesses are whores.

Zohar II 43a: Extermination of Christians is a necessary sacrifice.

Abodan Zarah 26b: Even the best of the Gentiles deserves to be killed.

Rasoni, Exodus14: The best of the Christians must be strangulated.

Berachoth: The Jews were created to be served by non-Jews. The latter
must plow, sow, weed, dig, mow, bind, sieve and grind. The Jews are
created to find all this in readiness.

Schulchan Aruch: It is always a meritorious deed for a Jew to get hold
of a Gentile's possessions.

Baba Kama, 113a, 113b: A Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.
The name of God is not profaned when lying to Christians.

Libbre David 37: To communicate anything to a Goy (Gentile) about our
religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if
the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

Baba Mezia: Jews are human beings; the other people of the world are not
human beings, but beasts.

To learn more about Jewish atrocities against Gentiles (non-Jews),
visit: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-USSR.html

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| Che'Gu Maru wrote:
|
| You are showing your ignorance. The only holy book of Judaism is the
| Torah, which is (with a few translational and organizational
| differences) the Old Testament of Christianity.
| --------------
| You are a liar. It is written in the Talmud that a Jew is to view the
| Talmud as superior to the Torah (Old Testament). The Talmud is to
| Judaism what the Catechism is to Catholicism, its 'main' book.
|
| I didn't take anything "out of context." I simply show your Jews for
| what they are. "The best of the Gentiles should be killed," is self
| explanatory.
|
| You keep defending the nation-wrecking Jews, Gu man! And I'll keep
| exposing them as the miserable tribe of nation-wreckers that they are!

Stange!!!! You assholes keep bleating about how many Jews there are in the
Government, and yet America has been getting stonger for years!!!! Nation
wrecking?? Nahhhh Just your pathetic paranoid hatred

Life must be hell for an abject coward like you

applej...@webtv.net

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Crusader can't understand there are not any jews who believe that
garbage You can find anything you want to justify when you are bent on
proving craziness or your jealous.One can practically prove anything
by taking sentences out of books..out of context.it doesn't matter when
they were printed 1500 years ago or whether its a relevant point ..just
race bait and hate...His whole life geared toward hate....another evil
person who makes others realize there is evil out there,I was born a
jew and know the hatred out there..I had a scanner and heard people talk
about blacks and jews..I think even though they have a history of
persecution some Jews still don't even know the extent of this hate.I
know even though his scum talk is pathetic there are still those he
influences..so I persist I know there are many good people out there
also....


Crusad...@webtv.net

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Aviator wrote:

Stange!!!! You assholes keep bleating about how many Jews there are in
the Government, and yet America has been getting stonger for years!!!!
Nation wrecking?? Nahhhh Just your pathetic paranoid hatred
Life must be hell for an abject coward like you

--------------------------
LOL!!! That has to be the most humorous thing you have said so far!!

During this century - the last 30 years especially - America has been
turned into an upside down, morally depraved cesspool!

When you say that America is "stronger" you must be referring to the
fact that America has become a global terrorist state. The current U.S.
Government perpetrates acts of terrorism against Governments that don't
operate in accordance with U.S. terrorist demands. Look at what the
current terrorist U.S. Government is doing to the Serbs. Look at what
the current U.S. regime of terror did to Iraq.

For White Unity,
J Johnson

"Sine auctoritate nulla vita."
(Without authority there is no life)

Western Imperative Network
http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm

-------------------------------------------------------
"I believe and profess that a people never must value anything higher
than the dignity and freedom of its existence; that it must defend these
with the last drop of its blood.." (Karl Von Clausewitz)

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<Crusad...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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| Aviator wrote:
|
| Stange!!!! You assholes keep bleating about how many Jews there are in
| the Government, and yet America has been getting stonger for years!!!!
| Nation wrecking?? Nahhhh Just your pathetic paranoid hatred
| Life must be hell for an abject coward like you
| --------------------------
| LOL!!! That has to be the most humorous thing you have said so far!!
|
| During this century - the last 30 years especially - America has been
| turned into an upside down, morally depraved cesspool!
|
| When you say that America is "stronger" you must be referring to the
| fact that America has become a global terrorist state. The current U.S.
| Government perpetrates acts of terrorism against Governments that don't
| operate in accordance with U.S. terrorist demands. Look at what the
| current terrorist U.S. Government is doing to the Serbs. Look at what
| the current U.S. regime of terror did to Iraq.

Nice attempt at spin, asshole. Nobody buys your pathetic hatred. As is tyo
be expected of racist idiots, you spin like a top away from the issue. You
morons are finding conspiracies in your breakfast cereal boxes

ROFL!!!!

Che'Gu Maru

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Actually, Che'Gu Maru continues to prove only that your quotes are out of
context (when they are not outright fabrications) and your intentions vile.


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