Newgon.com: Adverse effects of Child Sexual Hysteria
jamesb...@googlemail.com
Maintaining conditions of moral panic pertaining to children,
sexuality and minor-attracted persons has many adverse consequences
for society, especially minor children.
The topics covered on this page range from false accusations thru
expense, abuse of authority, stigmatisation and deprivation of
children and criminalisation.
jamesb...@googlemail.com
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:29:32 -0700 (PDT), jamesburt...@googlemail.com
> wrote:
>
> >minor-attracted persons
>
> --
> Pedospeak
>
> Pedospeak is the terminology that pedophiles use when referring to
> variants of their lifestyle, with the intent of obscuring the negative
> effects of their actions, and achieving legitimacy amongst the general
> public. While some pedospeak words are simply abbreviations of terms
> commonly used by anyone discussing pedophilia, many of the phrases
> betray a clear attempt to twist the existing terminology in their
> favor. By changing the language typically used to denote the sexual
> abuse of children, they hope to portray this abuse in a more benign
> light.
>
> Pedophiles use such terms as "Child Lover," "Minor-Attracted Adult,"
> "Girl Lover, "Boy Lover," etc., to describe themselves. Many resent
> use of the word "pedophile" because they view it as a hated word. They
> discuss about how, in history, and in some other countries, it's
> accepted for adults to have sex with minors. The goal of pedospeak is
> to trick people into thinking that they're harmless, and to become
> more acceptable to society.
>
> http://wikisposure.com/Pedospeak
Brandon, your familiar reference to what is (for a change) an invalid
neologism brings up an interesting point. As hard as it might be for
you to understand, the reason for said term's coinage rears its ugly,
sordid head whenever a person such as yourself is asked to define
"pedophile".
Of course, no less should be expected from an organisation that
harasses and slanders hundreds of innocent people every year and a
self-appointed crusader whose unhealthy obsession leads him to
systematically condemn others at a rate so suspiciously high that one
could reasonably assume that he is - um - not to pleased with himself.
Skin...@hotmail.com
<us...@example.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:29:32 -0700 (PDT), jamesb...@googlemail.com
>wrote:
>
>>minor-attracted persons
Thank you very much.
It's about time somebody exposed this henious effort to normalized yet
another abhorrent behavior.
There are just some things people ought to be taken out back and shot
for. Forcing sex with children is one of them. Covnice - within 2 days
assure that the conviction is proper (ONE APPEAL) - then execute
immediatly.
No, Not a deterrant. A solution!
Morton Davis
"Brandon D Cartwright" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
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> ...right?
>
>
>
>>
>>Of course, no less should be expected from an organisation that
>>harasses and slanders hundreds of innocent people every year and a
>>self-appointed crusader whose unhealthy obsession leads him to
>>systematically condemn others at a rate so suspiciously high that one
>>could reasonably assume that he is - um - not to pleased with himself.
>
>
>
> --
> "What pedophiles and people who have sexual desires on children
> lose sight of to a terrible, terrible degree - a devastating degree
> - is that their victims are real people who will suffer forever
> whatever abuses are perpetrated on them."
>
http://weeklywire.com/ww/04-20-98/boston_feature_1.html
Patriot Games
Patriot Games
<us...@example.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:29:32 -0700 (PDT), jamesb...@googlemail.com
>wrote:
We need to find all pedophiles and offer them humane euthansia or
lifetime incarceration.
Day Brown
he is a barbarian who thinks the customs of his tribe are the laws of
nature."
The link mentions data saying American kids loose virginity at 14.5 or
15 years. Interesting. In Europe, the average age of consent is 14.5;
they get sex education as well, and their teen pregnancy rate is a
fraction of the USA's.
Malta has the age of consent set at 12. Are they less civilized? Which
nation has the higher crime rate? Which has more rapes, which has more
kids murdered by perverts?
I frankly dont giva fuck about your moral sensibilities regarding
pedophilia; I'm looking at cultures which have better results.
ThePsyko
heard David cry out in
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> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:23:28 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
> <us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>
>>On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:28:39 +0930, David <faro...@picknowl.com.au>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:14:49 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>><us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:39:52 +0930, David
>>>><faro...@picknowl.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:56:08 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>>><us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>>>>>>My own view is that the appropriate place for them is in a
>>>>>>maximum security asylum for the criminally insane...
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, except that your intentions are not humane as you advocate
>>>>>that those persons be the subject of Medical and Psychiatric
>>>>>experimentation and that their organs be harvested for transplant
>>>>>purposes.
>>>>
>>>>I guess they could always opt for a death sentence rather than this
>>>>humane alternative.
>>>>
>>>> with a death sentence there is even less good reason why they
>>>> should
>>>>not give the gift of life to dying children to at least partially
>>>>atone for their depravity..
>>>>
>>>>retinas for blind children to see again..kidney transplants for
>>>>dying children..
>>>>
>>>>what is your problem with that?
>>>>
>>>>if they opted for the death penalty why shouldn't a convicted child
>>>>rapist and/or murderer be a source of material for heart
>>>>transplants?
>>>
>>>The original poster did not mention CONVICTED rapists or murderers.
>>>He said "We need to find all pedophiles and offer them humane
>>>euthansia (sic) or lifetime incarceration."
>>
>>as has been pointed out before the overwhelming majority of sane
>>decent folk do not care a jot for rarified psychiatric
>>definitions..and consider a pedophile someone like "XXX" who sexually
>>assaults little children to slake their perverted lusts..
>>
> "sane decent folk"? You?
>
> If you are going to use a term you should use it in its correct
> context and with its correct definition. You have been repeatedly told
> this but you refuse to listen placing your opinions above that of
> learned men.
>
>>that *YOU* consider their activities normal.. and that they are simply
>>victims of a society that does not understand how normal it is to have
>>sex with your own and/or your neighbors' children..is simply taken a
>>an indication that incest and pedophile apologists..like yourself..
>>belong in the cage next to them.
>>
>>or in the condemned cell next to them in the OP's case.
>
> Paedophilia is for more normal than you would like to think. It is
> child molesters that are the problem and most of those are not
> strangers to the child.
As has been repeatedly pointed out, they aren't strangers because they
find ways to become involved in childrens lives. Trotting that out as
some sort of defense that it's all ok is nothing more than deflection.
Day Brown
> As has been repeatedly pointed out, they aren't strangers because they
> find ways to become involved in childrens lives. Trotting that out as
> some sort of defense that it's all ok is nothing more than deflection.
Ozark woods, was, when left alone with her uncle, he tried to rape her.
But, she was a big girl of 14, and got to the 12 gauge by the back door
first.
She considered blowing his ass away right then, but then realized that
would put her cousins on welfare.
If we locked up all the jackasses who tried to pull this kind of thing,
the whole fucking economy would collapse. They may be perverts, but they
also haul the garbage, do the roadwork, build houses, work in factories,
and all the rest we require of men who do not think all that clearly.
Talk to the women you know yourself as I have. Something like 30% of
those I knew said they had direct, personal experience with sexual abuse
and/or assault. You think the prisons are full now, you have no idea
what trying to serve justice would actually cost the economy.
ThePsyko
Day Brown cry out in news:48d04c10$0$17662
$ec3e...@unlimited.usenetmonster.com...
So we should just let them get away with it because it's a sound economic
policy?
ThePsyko
heard XXX cry out in news:20080917102919.040$a...@newsreader.com...
> Not every slight has to involve the police, the justice system, and
> prison.
>
and I never said it did. I believe a good number of "situational"
offenders would benefit more from a good treatment program than prison.
It's the die hard pedophilic molesters that should be removed.
--
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
**Pissing off the planet, one person at a time**
Day Brown
> and I never said it did. I believe a good number of "situational"
> offenders would benefit more from a good treatment program than prison.
> It's the die hard pedophilic molesters that should be removed.
I've yet to hear of a report by a woman who had suffered abuse where it
had not been a friend of the mother or a member of the family. Most
often its the live-in boyfriend or step father having sex with the
daughter.
A lot of women are so desperate for a relationship they will protestute
their own daughters. Then too, take a closer look at the classic teen
porn movie, "Lolita". What is really going on there is a power play by
the teen against her self absorbed neglectful mother. The girl has sex
deliberately with her step father to get back at her mom.
The usual rules of victimization and pervert dont often fit well in what
is really going on. "American Beauty" shows another side, not only of
the fantasies of men, but hints that the girls know they have this
power, and some of them are out to exploit it as soon as they can.
Ask mrs. Palin.
ThePsyko
> ThePsyko wrote:
>> and I never said it did. I believe a good number of "situational"
>> offenders would benefit more from a good treatment program than
>> prison. It's the die hard pedophilic molesters that should be
>> removed.
> The classic 'stranger with candy' is a trivial part of the problem.
agreed.. but the pedo apologists do enjoy trotting that out as an example
of why nobody should be worried.
>
> I've yet to hear of a report by a woman who had suffered abuse where
> it had not been a friend of the mother or a member of the family. Most
> often its the live-in boyfriend or step father having sex with the
> daughter.
How many reports have you heard? How about Elizabeth Smart for example?
Just because you don't know of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and
unless you have some sort of "in" with the abused crowd (and believe me,
there is quite a network), you can't really put forth your experiences as
100% fact ..
>
> A lot of women are so desperate for a relationship they will
> protestute their own daughters. Then too, take a closer look at the
> classic teen porn movie, "Lolita". What is really going on there is a
> power play by the teen against her self absorbed neglectful mother.
> The girl has sex deliberately with her step father to get back at her
> mom.
>
> The usual rules of victimization and pervert dont often fit well in
> what is really going on. "American Beauty" shows another side, not
> only of the fantasies of men, but hints that the girls know they have
> this power, and some of them are out to exploit it as soon as they
> can.
>
> Ask mrs. Palin.
--
Day Brown
> How many reports have you heard? How about Elizabeth Smart for example?
> Just because you don't know of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and
> unless you have some sort of "in" with the abused crowd (and believe me,
> there is quite a network), you can't really put forth your experiences as
> 100% fact ..
year living with 8 dykes, and heard even more. The blind eye of the
system has done more to promote lesbianism than anything else I can
think of. Since I was crippled by polio in childhood, the girls in high
school acted as if I was a eunuch who had access to the boy's room, and
always pumped me for information. But I also heard things from them that
they'd never tell a normal boy.
I was never under the delusion that I was Mr. Wright, but never more
than Mr. Yule Dew. Because I knew I could not run away from a fight, I
never had a relationship with a non-white woman. But of this limited
sample, I doubt you find even one socially engaged girl (as opposed to
some withdrawn psycho case), who does not know of sexual abuse either
thru a friend, a relative, or even her own trauma.
Its been getting worse. Back in the old days, when families were large,
there were always other kids in the house watching what was going on.
But after birth control, with only 1-2, the number of opportunities for
a man to be home alone with a kid have been multiplied accordingly.
I know young women who get it. They are therefore looking to cohabit
with several other women so that there is always another woman in the
house with an eye on the kids while mom works. I dunno of any other way
to put a stop to the sexual abuse, and neither do they. We demand kids
be put in car seats to prevent trauma at rates that are a tiny fraction
of what results from sexual abuse.
Patriot Games
<us...@example.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:08:56 -0400, Patriot Games
>security asylum for the criminally insane...
We certainly need them off the streets, out of normal society.
Patriot Games
>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:14:49 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
><us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>>On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:39:52 +0930, David <faro...@picknowl.com.au>
>>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:56:08 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>><us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>>>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:08:56 -0400, Patriot Games
>>>>security asylum for the criminally insane...
>>>those persons be the subject of Medical and Psychiatric
>>>experimentation and that their organs be harvested for transplant
>>>purposes.
>>I guess they could always opt for a death sentence rather than this
>>humane alternative.
>> with a death sentence there is even less good reason why they should
>>not give the gift of life to dying children to at least partially
>>atone for their depravity..
>>retinas for blind children to see again..kidney transplants for dying
>>children..
>>what is your problem with that?
>>if they opted for the death penalty why shouldn't a convicted child
>>rapist and/or murderer be a source of material for heart transplants?
>The original poster did not mention CONVICTED rapists or murderers. He
>(sic) or lifetime incarceration."
First, I don't think its unreasonable to offer euthanasia to prisoners
that have NO hope of ever getting out of prison. I also don't think
its unreasonable to offer them an opportunity to contribute to society
by donating their organs.
But you can't mix "CONVICTED rapists or murderers" with pedophiles.
Pedophiles are genetic mutants. They cannot control their pre-wired
sexual orientation. They may or may not be able to control their
reactions to their pre-wired sexual orientation. Until we can be
certain that they can control their reactions to their pre-wired
sexual orientation we need to remove them from normal society.
Patriot Games
You're a fool.
Day Brown
> Pedophiles are genetic mutants. They cannot control their pre-wired
> sexual orientation. They may or may not be able to control their
> reactions to their pre-wired sexual orientation. Until we can be
> certain that they can control their reactions to their pre-wired
> sexual orientation we need to remove them from normal society.
that children are not allowed into where social misfits can live and
work and thereby contribute to the tax base rather than sucking off it.
Convert some old military bases; they already have the perimeter well
defined and easy to control.
Patriot Games
Morton Davis
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Jerry
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>
> http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/
>
> Tom has a secret...
>
> Tom has a secret he doesn't tell anyone about. He doesn't want his
> wife Molly, or his kids to know. **
>
> It's not really that big of a deal. It's not like he really does
> anything, and he doesn't hurt anyone.
>
> Tom likes to watch porn on the internet. All of his fantasies are just
> a click away. It's free, but there are these great sites where you pay
> a small fee, and then you get to see some really good stuff.
>
> Tom uses a flash drive to download lots of sexy pictures and videos.
> That way his wife will never find it.
>
> The more he watches, the more he likes it. He even likes it when the
> girls pretend to be hurt. He knows it's all fake, but it really turns
> him on.
>
> Tom was at the grocery store and saw a girl that looked just like the
> one from his favorite porn movie. His hands gripped the cart harder
> and he got excited as he followed this girl around the store. He
> started to fantasize about doing the things he saw online, to this
> girl he was following. Things like holding her down and listening to
> her scream and cry while he hurt her. Tom started to think of ways he
> could get her alone...
>
> Tom has a secret. What we didn't tell you is hat Tom doesn't watch
> adult porn; he watches child porn. It started with teens, 13-15 year
> olds. But that's not really what Tom wanted. It took him a while to
> find what he really wanted to see. Tom likes to watch 4 and 5 year
> olds being raped and tortured. ***
>
> And the "girl" in the grocery store he was trying to get a hold of so
> he could rape her? She was only 6 years old, and was with her mother
> in the store. Tom didn't see it that way though. All he saw was a girl
> who turned him on, one he was sexually attracted to. All he saw was a
> victim.
>
> US Attorney Bob Balfe says, "Statistics show that 85 percent of people
> we prosecute for child pornography are also child molesters, so these
> are not just people looking at photos." He noted that many people
> think of child pornography as photos of a 15-year-old girl in a skimpy
> bathing suit, but actually, "We're talking about images of children in
> horrific activities."****
>
> Child porn is not just teens modeling and smiling into the camera.
>
> It's babies. Toddlers. 2 year olds.
>
> Being brutally raped and tortured by adults.
>
> Pedophiles and child molesters talk openly on forums about their child
> porn and pictures of children they have, and how they keep it hidden
> from family and friends. They even joke about "close calls" they've
> had at being found out.
>
> This is real. It happens everyday, all over the world. There are
> "Toms" in every neighborhood across America and in every country
> around the world.
>
> When someone is arrested for possession of child pornography, remember
> it's not just teens smiling into the camera. It's indescribable and
> horrendous acts being done to our most vulnerable and most innocent.
>
> Nothing can excuse that. Nothing can justify it. It's not just someone
> looking at some pictures. It's someone watching infant and child rape
> and torture. They are watching it, being sexually aroused by it, and
> most often acting out and abusing because of it.
>
> The cold, hard facts: Persons arrested for child pornography between
> July 1, 2000, and June 30, 2001 (estimated 1,713): 83% had
> pornographic images of prepubescent children and 80% had images
> graphically depicting sexual penetration. Approximately 1 in 5 people
> arrested (21%) had images depicting sexual violence to children such
> as bondage, rape, and torture. More than 1 in 3 (39%) had
> child-pornography videos with motion and sound.
>
> Of those arrested, 83% had images of children between ages 6 and 12;
> 39% had images of 3 to 5 year old children; and 19% had images of
> toddlers or infants younger than age 3. 80% had pictures showing the
> sexual penetration of a child. source: NCMEC
>
Brandon is a feminist, how appropriate!
Day Brown
child to make it. But now, there is morphing software that can produce
what looks like a child, but no child was used to produce it. So, the
court said, that its child porn if it produces a certain effect in the
mind of the viewer.
Orwell, in his classic, "1984" had a word for this:"Thought crime".
If what you want is to protect children, look at how the Mosou of SW
China do it. The rape and abuse rate of children there is: zero. The
Spartans were also known for a rape rate of zero. It was reported a
naked virgin could walk from one end of Sparta to another at midnite,
and return home with her virginity intact.
How did they do that? There were no homeless men in Sparta; they all
lived in the barracks except for those few the matriarchs wanted to live
in the communal houses with the kids because they were valued as
mentors. Which is what the Mosou today also do.
If you want to guarantee the safety of EVERY child, you need to abandon
the nuclear family model, which has the private spaces perverts use to
abuse kids. The communal houses keep all the kids together all the time
under the watchful eyes of the mothers and matriarchs. There are no
private spaces with locked doors; they have very open attitudes about
sex, and any woman can leave at any time to go with a lover to have the
privacy they want. But she cant take any kids along.
No threat of punishment will prevent pervs from trying to abuse kids;
they are not rational enuf to be deterred. It does not matter whether
they can get child porn or not, their fantasies will exist anyway. The
ONLY WAY is to return to the communal tribal lifestyles hominids evolved
in over the course of uncounted millennia.
Day Brown
>> The ONLY WAY is to return to the communal tribal lifestyles hominids evolved
>> in over the course of uncounted millennia.
>
>
> Tribal life in Iraq and Rwanda hasn't worked out too well..has it?
I did not know Iraq and Rwanda ever had a Golden Age of Peace. I go with
what we know, the archeological data on the lifestyles of the people who
actually figured out how to live without leaving us any signs of war.
Hundreds of tels have been dug into along the rivers that drain into the
West end of the Black Sea. And down thru 4000 years of occupation, there
is no sign of warfare.
Soil cores show they farmed the same land for 4000 years without
destroying the fertility using crop rotation. They never clearcut the
forests. This was not necessary because the communal house did not need
nearly the per capita timber of the nuclear family cottage. The one
communal hearth kept everyone warm, so they didnt need nearly the fire
wood either.
And because there were no private spaces for a perf to abuse a kid,
there was no need to evaluate which men mite pose a threat. No reason to
interfere with their personal rights. Every reason to keep them around
to contribute production for the general welfare. Even today, many pervs
have valuable skills that help keep the economy going. If you locked all
of them up, the economy would collapse.
I dont doubt that pervs have other psychological problems as well, and
we see how often they hypocritically take up clerical careers pretending
to be paragons of morality. Self righteousness is a good clue, or as
Shakespeare said, "Thou protest too much".
In any case, as the human genome work goes on, I expect we'll see the
DNA markers indicative of perversion. The matrons of the communal houses
will know who they are, and instead use only responsible mature sane men
as sperm donors for the next generation. Which will help a lot.
There are also new lie detection technologies to help identify who poses
what kind of risks to others. Ancients used powerful entheogenic potions
in special spiritual rituals that so messed with the nervous system that
it became clear who was crazy. Clerical robes or pretensions would not
hide the reality of who someone was.
Fred Brown
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Tell the truth Brandon, you spent hours analyzing your collection.
Naughty boy.
Baal
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Brandon D Cartwright wrote in alt.activism.children on September 13,
2008 23:14 in Message-ID: <bvvoc4dsf54vl0ck5...@4ax.com>:
[snip]
> retinas for blind children to see again..
Stuff and nonsense. (Partial) retinal transplants /may/ at some future time,
hold out hope for adults who are blind or experiencing vision loss--right
now, these are a pipe dream. The problem with children is that without
appropriate visual stimulation, the visual cortex of the brain does not
develop normally, instead it serves to process one of the other senses,
usually auditory.
If a child does not see by the time they reach 5 or 6, they will *never*
see, as the brain's visual cortex will not have developed to allow them to
see, properly working eyes nor retinas notwithstanding.
> kidney transplants for dying children..
The best solution for organ transplantation problems is mandated donation--
this provides a larger pool for potential donors and a greater probability
of a tissue match. Using cadaver organs from such a relatively small
population is likely to be of little (if any) use.
> what is your problem with that?
See above.
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Morton Davis
"Brandon D Cartwright" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
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Yes. We know. It's all hate 24/365 and zero reason. Who cares what the law
is or what the clinical definition is, or that sexual attacks on children
are declining, or that a large percentage of child porn is now being made by
children......
Patriot Games
Sure we do:
Definition of 'pedophilia' (ped�?-fil�e-?, pe�d?-) - The American
Heritage� Dictionary
pedophilia (n.) The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging
in sexual activity with a child or children.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>"Brandon D Cartwright" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:51:46 GMT, "Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com>
>> wrote:
>>>"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
>>>news:4jc7d4d2jppq7imsj...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:56:08 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>> <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:08:56 -0400, Patriot Games
>>>>><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>>On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:25:35 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>>>><us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:29:32 -0700 (PDT), jamesb...@googlemail.com
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>minor-attracted persons
>>>>>>We need to find all pedophiles and offer them humane euthansia or
>>>>>>lifetime incarceration.
>>>>>My own view is that the appropriate place for them is in a maximum
>>>>>security asylum for the criminally insane...
>>>> We certainly need them off the streets, out of normal society.
>>>Most of you do not even know what pedophilia is.
>> nobody cares a fig
We know that too:
Definition of Pedophilia
Pedophilia: People with pedophilia have fantasies, urges or behaviors
that involve illegal sexual activity with a prepubescent child or
children (generally age 13 years or younger). Pedophilic behavior
includes undressing the child, encouraging the child to watch the
abuser masturbate, touching or fondling the child's genitals and
forcefully performing sexual acts on the child. Some pedophiles are
sexually attracted to children only (exclusive pedophiles) and are not
attracted to adults at all. Some pedophiles limit their activity to
their own children or close relatives (incest), while others victimize
other children. Predatory pedophiles may use force or threaten their
victims if they disclose the abuse. Health care providers are legally
bound to report such abuse of minors.
This activity constitutes rape and is a felony offense punishable by
imprisonment.
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=46415
Patriot Games
wrote:
>"Brandon D Cartwright" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
>news:ouutd45fepbvsemoh...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:51:46 GMT, "Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com>
>> wrote:
>>>"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
>>>news:4jc7d4d2jppq7imsj...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:56:08 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>> <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:08:56 -0400, Patriot Games
>>>>><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>>On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:25:35 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>>>><us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:29:32 -0700 (PDT), jamesb...@googlemail.com
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>minor-attracted persons
>>>>>>We need to find all pedophiles and offer them humane euthansia or
>>>>>>lifetime incarceration.
>>>>>My own view is that the appropriate place for them is in a maximum
>>>>>security asylum for the criminally insane...
>>>> We certainly need them off the streets, out of normal society.
>>>Most of you do not even know what pedophilia is.
>> nobody cares a fig
Cite?
>or that a large percentage of child porn is now being made by
>children......
Cite?
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> If what you want is to protect children, look at how the Mosou of SW
> China do it. The rape and abuse rate of children there is: zero. The
> Spartans were also known for a rape rate of zero. It was reported a
> naked virgin could walk from one end of Sparta to another at midnite,
> and return home with her virginity intact.
That's because the Spartans were obviously into boys. They took'em
out of their homes at 7 years of age to train them to be warriors.
They were kept nearly or completely naked, even in winter, and they
had to steal food if they wanted to eat. They were beaten if caught.
That hardly sounds like an orgasmic affair. Though humans are
adaptable. I'm sure the boys smiled.
> No threat of punishment will prevent pervs from trying to abuse
> kids; they are not rational enuf to be deterred. It does not
> matter whether they can get child porn or not, their fantasies
> will exist anyway. The ONLY WAY is to return to the communal
> tribal lifestyles hominids evolved in over the course of
> uncounted millennia.
I've seen your posts in other newsgroups. You have a monkey fetish.
You even suggest we should all live like apes to stave off pedophilia?
Jeez, burn your degree, or apply it where it belongs: apes.
Damaeus
Damaeus
"Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com> posted:
> Yes. We know. It's all hate 24/365 and zero reason. Who cares
> what the law is or what the clinical definition is, or that
> sexual attacks on children are declining, or that a large
> percentage of child porn is now being made by children......
I've heard news stories of 13-year-olds being arrested for posting
pictures of themselves naked online. That's getting to be too
bizarre. When are people going to wake up?
Damaeus
Damaeus
Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net> posted:
> This indeed a consideration however there are cases where children's
> sight can be restored by organ donors...
Why would you want evil pedo pupils in kids' eyes? You can't hate the
pedophile and love his innards. That's sick!
Yes, I'm reading from alt.support.boy-lovers now. I'm sick of this
shit. Die, bastard!
Damaeus
Damaeus
Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net> posted:
> You delude yourself if you imagine Orwell thought those who long
> to rape children should be anywhere but in a cage.
What's wrong with longing to rape children?
Damaeus
Damaeus
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> posted:
> Definition of Pedophilia
>
> Pedophilia:
People with pedophilia
"With" pedophilia? If they think it's a disease, why do they treat it
like it's a crime?
> have fantasies,
Nothing wrong with fantasies, and that's not a sign of disease, but a
healthy imagination.
> urges
Urges can be dangerous. Keep self-control. Keep walking. Don't even
look too much.
> or behaviors
The differences between fantasies, urges, and behaviors are too
significant to be under one umbrella.
> that involve illegal sexual activity
Illegal? Above you said it was a disease. What the hell are you
trying to pull here? Stop trying to have it both ways!
> With a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or
> younger). Pedophilic behavior includes undressing the child,
> encouraging the child to watch the abuser masturbate, touching or
> fondling the child's genitals and forcefully performing sexual
> acts on the child.
Gosh, with that detailed a description, you either did it yourself, or
you watched someone else doing it.
> Some pedophiles are sexually attracted to children only
They aren't attracted to children. They're attracted to small bodies
with a different aesthetic.
> Health care providers are legally bound to report such abuse of
> minors.
What happens if they don't?
Posted cuz i dont give a fuck anymore. fuck this god damned world.
the whole thing sucks.
--
Damaeus - Damon M.
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> The link mentions data saying American kids loose virginity at 14.5 or
> 15 years. Interesting. In Europe, the average age of consent is 14.5;
> they get sex education as well, and their teen pregnancy rate is a
> fraction of the USA's.
>
> Malta has the age of consent set at 12. Are they less civilized? Which
> nation has the higher crime rate? Which has more rapes, which has more
> kids murdered by perverts?
I take back what you said about having a monkey fetish. What you say
had a lot of trivia, so you've filled your head with lots of facts and
information. I go based on feelings, myself. It may seem illogical,
but when the world is going to hell in a handbasket, facts and figures
won't mean too much when the laws of nature decide to go
squiggly-squack and leave us all wondering if the rain is going to
fall up into the sky.
Day Brown
reproductive capacity of the children later, and thus the survival of
the whole group, but it does nothing to increase the number of genes in
the pool by that individual.
Its not evolutionary, but indicative of some kind of arrested
development condition. The longing referred to is not wrong, but it is
symptomatic of a serious mental condition worthy of evaluation.
Day Brown
> Reading from news:alt.support.boy-lovers,
> Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
>
>> If what you want is to protect children, look at how the Mosou of SW
>> China do it. The rape and abuse rate of children there is: zero. The
>> Spartans were also known for a rape rate of zero. It was reported a
>> naked virgin could walk from one end of Sparta to another at midnite,
>> and return home with her virginity intact.
>
> That's because the Spartans were obviously into boys. They took'em
> out of their homes at 7 years of age to train them to be warriors.
> They were kept nearly or completely naked, even in winter, and they
> had to steal food if they wanted to eat. They were beaten if caught.
> That hardly sounds like an orgasmic affair. Though humans are
> adaptable. I'm sure the boys smiled.
It was politically expedient to put out scenarios like that above.
>> No threat of punishment will prevent pervs from trying to abuse
>> kids; they are not rational enuf to be deterred. It does not
>> matter whether they can get child porn or not, their fantasies
>> will exist anyway. The ONLY WAY is to return to the communal
>> tribal lifestyles hominids evolved in over the course of
>> uncounted millennia.
>
> I've seen your posts in other newsgroups. You have a monkey fetish.
> You even suggest we should all live like apes to stave off pedophilia?
>
> Jeez, burn your degree, or apply it where it belongs: apes.
Look up the Mosou of SW China. They've lived communally for centuries.
They dont have any kids abused by sexual trauma, so they dont have any
adults needing psychotherapy or meds.
ThePsyko
XXX cry out in news:20081003144926.543$m...@newsreader.com...
> So it is OK to rape a 10 or 11 year old, from an evolutionary standpoint?
10 and 11 year olds are still children
--
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
**Pissing off the planet, one person at a time**
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> Look up the Mosou of SW China. They've lived communally for centuries.
> They dont have any kids abused by sexual trauma, so they dont have any
> adults needing psychotherapy or meds.
The trauma in America is caused by parents going ballistic over their
kids having an orgasm at the hand of someone they don't know about. I
understand the concern, but it's the paranoia that sets up the
conditions that cause forced intercourse and murder.
ThePsyko
> But many (most?) of them can reproduce. If we are looking at this in
> an evolutionary standpoint you want to spread your genes as much as
> possible. Get 'em young and make sure that your genes get around.
>
Not at 10 or 11... average age for menarch for girls (in the US anyway)
is 11.75 years old, and even that isn't necessarily indicative of a girls
ability to get pregnant..
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty#Menstruation_and_fertility
"In postmenarchal girls, about 80% of the cycles were anovulatory in the
first year after menarche (about 13 years), 50% in the third (about 15
years) and 10% in the sixth year (about 18 years)."
so even at 13 years old, only 1 out of 5 girls is capable of
conceiving...
Damaeus
xxxxx...@hotmail.com (XXX) posted:
> Failure to report child abuse (by a mandated reporter) is a
> summary offense, the first time, and a misdemeanor that.
How can they punish someone for failure? That's not fair. It's one
thing to punish someone for outright refusal. But to "fail" to report
it and be punished is utter bullshit!
Damaeus
Day Brown
be expected to be competent fathers or provide for any kids they mite
sire. Demographics would suggest preventing conception until 16, but
either way, rape of any kind at any age is so traumatic that any
community which wanted to be viable, and not be using energy trying to
deal with the physical and emotional trauma would not tolerate rape.
And would abort any conception that resulted from it. And note, I didnt
suggest permitting rape, but using the LONGING as a symptom of severe
psychopathology. funny that he missed that. Course, not everyone reads
everything I say all that carefully. You mite want to look at a series
of responses by such a poster to see if there is a pattern in what is
picked up on, and what is missed.
Day Brown
>> Look up the Mosou of SW China. They've lived communally for centuries.
>> They dont have any kids abused by sexual trauma, so they dont have any
>> adults needing psychotherapy or meds.
>
> The trauma in America is caused by parents going ballistic over their
> kids having an orgasm at the hand of someone they don't know about. I
> understand the concern, but it's the paranoia that sets up the
> conditions that cause forced intercourse and murder.
a system is on the skids, people's coping skills dont work so well any
more, and they engage in "magical thinking", a term he coined. Thus we
see the rise in religious fundamentalism and the hysteria over morals
that comes with it.
Now, I am retired, but usta work in clinical settings and still know
women in healthcare and psychotherapy, and they see the population is,
pun intended, fundamentally pathological.
You cant raise kids on sugar cereals, junkfood, and soda, and expect
them all to develop maximal mental functionality. Along with the dietary
deficiency is agribusiness petrochemical contamination. This has been
going on so long that the parents you refer to are neurotic,
hysterically grasping at any straw, aware there are serious problems,
but unable to deal with the ambiguous complexity of this whole issue.
Fortunately for us, we raised our own kids in the Ozarks, in a still
fairly clean environment. The land is too steep for agribusiness. We all
had, and still have gardens, and just recently finished canning up a ton
of fruits and veggies. Our kids turned out all right. But we are well
aware of how unstable the whole system is, and very glad to be living in
remote rural communities we hope will be out of the way of systemic and
emotional crisis as all these chickens come home to roost.
There's nothing we can do, nothing we can post, that will have any
effect on how the mass culture evolves; all we can do is focus on our
own local circumstances and try to gather the resources and tools to
take care of our own in case the proverbial schitt hits the fan.
Day Brown
delusion. Bankruptcy, job loss, housing foreclosure and the divorce that
results will often do. They go on about pedophilia because they need
someone to blame to scapegoat for everything that's wrong with society.
The real reasons would require a longer attention span and have lots of
ambiguous data. Dr. Freud noted neurotics cant tolerate ambiguity. Thus
the whole world is divided in the 'evil', in this case pedophiles, and
the 'good', in this case themselves. Or the Republicans vs Democrats;
rich vs poor. Faith is all about conviction, but reason is all about
doubt. Well, they cant handle doubt.
Day Brown
> I take back what you said about having a monkey fetish.
> What you say
> had a lot of trivia, so you've filled your head with lots of facts and
> information. I go based on feelings, myself. It may seem illogical,
> but when the world is going to hell in a handbasket, facts and figures
> won't mean too much when the laws of nature decide to go
> squiggly-squack and leave us all wondering if the rain is going to
> fall up into the sky.
When Janis studied group think, he found only 15% of us can actually
think for ourselves. 85% will quite literally, not believe their own
eyes in order to go along with what they think the group thinks.
This has a lot to do with why ancient sages, Jesus, Buddha, etc, left
the company of men to go think their own thoughts. And when they return,
people think they are nuts. Nevertheless, some sages found some few, of
the aforementioned 15% who could understand where the sage was coming
from. Course, those sages who didnt find such reasonable minds to
discourse with are unknown.
Shakespeare has Caesar say:"You'll have to forgive the man Mercutio; he
is a barbarian who thinks the customs of his tribe are the laws of
Nature." Nature eventually gets around to making the point, and you need
a new set of customs. Most parts of this world may well go to hell, but
not all of them will. Some will have customs that are more inline with
what Nature has in mind. Some accept that Murphy's laws will never be
repealed. The 15% that Janis reports will figure out who they are and
find ways to cooperate while the 85% will be driven by delusion.
Day Brown
students on the Isle of Lesbos. Yet, at graduation, the girls returned
to Athens, got married, and raised families.
And who did they marry?
Only the most notorious bunch of boy fuckers in all history.
And what did all this depravity produce?
Only the most famous generations of genius the world has ever seen.
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> Wallace, in his anthro classic, Culture and Personality, noted that when
> a system is on the skids, people's coping skills dont work so well any
> more, and they engage in "magical thinking", a term he coined. Thus we
> see the rise in religious fundamentalism and the hysteria over morals
> that comes with it.
[ . . . ]
> There's nothing we can do, nothing we can post, that will have any
> effect on how the mass culture evolves; all we can do is focus on our
> own local circumstances and try to gather the resources and tools to
> take care of our own in case the proverbial schitt hits the fan.
Well, I gotta hand it to you, you won me over with that post. That
described a whole side of the issue I had never considered before.
Excessive pill-popping, artificial food ingredients and chemicals,
pollutants, etc... and all that junk building up in the brain would
likely cause a chemically-damaged brain to exhibit pathological
behaviors.
I have found that marijuana consumption counteracts the effects of
these pollutants. Since there are THC receptors in the brain, I
wonder if some chemicals in the brain might bind to THC and be flushed
out along with the THC through the body's circulatory system. I'd be
interested to see a comparison of toxicity data between a group of pot
smokers and a group of non-pot-smokers. What are the lead and
aluminum levels in their brains? Maybe aluminum will chemically bind
to THC. What do you think?
Damaeus
Damaeus
Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net> posted:
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:33:24 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >Reading from news:alt.politics,
> >xxxxx...@hotmail.com (XXX) posted:
> >
> >> Failure to report child abuse (by a mandated reporter) is a
> >> summary offense, the first time, and a misdemeanor that.
> >
> >How can they punish someone for failure? That's not fair.
>
> of course it's fair..
>
> If they know a child has been abused and fail to notify the
> relevant authorities they have committed an offence..
No, you can't do that in a debate. You've used the very word in
question to support your argument, when that very word is in question.
What does it mean to "fail"? Under what conditions are they going to
say it is failure, or refusal, or denial, or complacency?
> > It's one thing to punish someone for outright refusal. But to
> > "fail" to report it and be punished is utter bullshit!
>
> knowingly allowing the continuing abuse of a child is to be
> complicit in the rapes..
Child abuse takes many forms. Just because a kid has a bruise on his
back doesn't mean he was raped.
> It makes them an accessory after the fact..
After the fact of what? That he might have gotten a bruise on his
back in one of hundreds of ways?
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> We have the poems of Sappho about her torrid love affairs with
> her students on the Isle of Lesbos. Yet, at graduation, the
> girls returned to Athens, got married, and raised families.
>
> And who did they marry?
> Only the most notorious bunch of boy fuckers in all history.
>
> And what did all this depravity produce?
> Only the most famous generations of genius the world has ever
> seen.
Yeah, it's about understanding it all. I think people have always
been in search of the ultimate beauty. They want to know what it is
that's most beautiful of all. I think those who have discovered it's
boys have discovered the key to understanding. That it's okay to
look at a boy, notice he's beautiful, notice he's even sexy, and to
know it's okay to also not touch.
As for some of the pedophile haters on the newsgroup, I'm now
wondering if they hate those who molest kids because they love boys,
themselves, but have resisted the urge. I'm not trying to be
suggestive. I'm just curious about what mindset spews attacks toward
both admitted boy lovers in control of themselves and child molesters
alike. I had not considered before tonight a possible third tier of
even more-secretive boy lovers who don't even admit to anyone at all
that they, too, think boys are nice to look at. Perhaps this third
tier is more able to fend off the sexual thoughts that the second tier
(admitted boy lovers) have confessed to having, but have resisted.
What do you think?
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> Shakespeare has Caesar say:"You'll have to forgive the man Mercutio; he
> is a barbarian who thinks the customs of his tribe are the laws of
> Nature." Nature eventually gets around to making the point, and you need
> a new set of customs. Most parts of this world may well go to hell, but
> not all of them will. Some will have customs that are more inline with
> what Nature has in mind. Some accept that Murphy's laws will never be
> repealed. The 15% that Janis reports will figure out who they are and
> find ways to cooperate while the 85% will be driven by delusion.
Interesting that 15% of the people in America have been the wealthiest
capitalists who have set up an economic framework that allows them to
cooperate with each other to make each other wealthy, and now the 85%
of the people who have been unknowningly living the resulting delusion
are now waking up from their nightmares and seeing what's been going
on. They don't seem too pleased.
Damaeus
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> ThePsyko wrote:
>
> > so even at 13 years old, only 1 out of 5 girls is capable of
> > conceiving...
>
> I'd leave that judgment to the mothers. The boys at that age
> would not be expected to be competent fathers or provide for any
> kids they mite sire. Demographics would suggest preventing
> conception until 16, but either way, rape of any kind at any age
> is so traumatic that any community which wanted to be viable, and
> not be using energy trying to deal with the physical and
> emotional trauma would not tolerate rape.
What do you think of the concept of the young having the sex and the
children while the elders raise them with more wisdom than the younger
ones can apply. That leaves the younger ones free to get their
sexuality out of the way and then see the world, then return to settle
down in peace having known the world and all its taught them. That
leaves them with lots of wisdom to pass on to their grandchildren as
they raise their children's kids.
> And would abort any conception that resulted from it. And note,
> I didn't suggest permitting rape, but using the LONGING as a
> symptom of severe psychopathology. Funny that he missed that.
> Course, not everyone reads everything I say all that carefully.
> You mite want to look at a series of responses by such a poster
> to see if there is a pattern in what is picked up on, and what is
> missed.
I think there are some people who are mentally backed into a corner,
and they scratch at every invading idea with cat claws, yet refusing
to budge from their corner. I've always been willing to be convinced
of other things if they make sense to me, but I've never really
noticed the distinct divide between the open-mindedness of some and
closed-mindedness of others. And I would imagine that what people are
closed or open about depends on the topic, but I like to think I'm
fairly open on everything.
I even see a place for the enjoyment of cannibalism once everyone is
immortal and nobody gets hurt, but as for doing it as a mortal, it's
sick, disgusting, and I want no part of it or anyone who does such
things until we all learn what we can do with ourselves and get on
with eternity.
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> Dr. Freud said it takes a traumatic event to wake up a neurotic from his
> delusion. Bankruptcy, job loss, housing foreclosure and the divorce that
> results will often do. They go on about pedophilia because they need
> someone to blame to scapegoat for everything that's wrong with society.
>
> The real reasons would require a longer attention span and have lots of
> ambiguous data. Dr. Freud noted neurotics cant tolerate ambiguity.
I ran into a problem with my use of ambiguous language when talking to
physicists. Your statement leads me to wonder if neurosis might be
caused, at least partially, by our methods of education.
Damaeus
Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid> posted:
Yes, that I added that last sentence and signed my name intentionally
without allowing my signature file to do it for me would expose to you
the fact that I'm one of the 85%. LOL
Damaeus
PS - And happy to be :-)
Damaeus
Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid> posted:
> I've always been willing to be convinced
> of other things if they make sense to me, but I've never really
> noticed the distinct divide between the open-mindedness of some and
> closed-mindedness of others.
I needed to add that I have in the last few months really noticed
people defending their positions to ridiculous lengths, even to saying
whole sectors of society can die and rot if it means they must lose a
dime of their money. Whether they were actually serious or not, I
can't be sure, but if they weren't serious, they must have been having
a really good time on the internet.
Damaeus
Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org> posted:
> If we locked up all the jackasses who tried to pull this kind of
> thing, the whole fucking economy would collapse. They may be
> perverts, but they also haul the garbage, do the roadwork, build
> houses, work in factories, and all the rest we require of men who
> do not think all that clearly.
You hit the nail on the head there. I think the one thing that kids
could probably be told to make them confident in their ability to
outwit weird-acting people is that if the weirdos are stupid enough to
try something in public, they're damned sure stupid enough to be
outwitted by anybody who's got better sense than to do what they're
trying to do. Just know that they're stupid enough to be dangerous,
and use that to your advantage if you can.
Damaeus
Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net> posted:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:28:39 +0930, David <faro...@picknowl.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> > The original poster did not mention CONVICTED rapists or
> > murderers. He said "We need to find all pedophiles and offer
> > them humane euthansia (sic) or lifetime incarceration."
>
> As has been pointed out before the overwhelming majority of sane
> decent folk do not care a jot for rarified psychiatric
> definitions..and consider a pedophile someone like "XXX" who
> sexually assaults little children to slake their perverted
> lusts..
>
> that *YOU* consider their activities normal.. and that they are
> simply victims of a society that does not understand how normal
> it is to have sex with your own and/or your neighbors'
> children..is simply taken a an indication that incest and
> pedophile apologists..like yourself.. belong in the cage next to
> them.
It looks to me like you two actually agree with each other. It's just
that Brandon defines a pedophile as anybody who touches a kid, while
David sees all boy lovers as pedophiles, including the ones that don't
touch. David, then, uses "child molester" to mean the same thing as
Brandon's definition of "pedophile".
That's what I'm seeing between the two of you in those two messages.
You agree with each other on principles, you just don't agree with
each other's use of words and definitions.
Damaeus
Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> posted:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:06:50 -0500, Day Brown <dayb...@daybrown.org>
> wrote:
> >Patriot Games wrote:
> >> Pedophiles are genetic mutants. They cannot control their pre-wired
> >> sexual orientation. They may or may not be able to control their
> >> reactions to their pre-wired sexual orientation. Until we can be
> >> certain that they can control their reactions to their pre-wired
> >> sexual orientation we need to remove them from normal society.
> >
> >It'd make more economic sense to establish some free market adult zones
> >that children are not allowed into where social misfits can live and
> >work and thereby contribute to the tax base rather than sucking off it.
> >Convert some old military bases; they already have the perimeter well
> >defined and easy to control.
>
> Works for me!
Is that where you'd throw the juvenile delinquents when they start
acting up? lol
Day Brown
> I needed to add that I have in the last few months really noticed
> people defending their positions to ridiculous lengths, even to saying
> whole sectors of society can die and rot if it means they must lose a
> dime of their money. Whether they were actually serious or not, I
> can't be sure, but if they weren't serious, they must have been having
> a really good time on the internet.
far, the data suggests that while some are lucky, most kids raised on
sugar cereals, junkfood, and soda end up as neurotic adults. According
to the original definition by Dr. Freud, they were still functional on
the job or in some other venue, but in denial about particular facts.
He said they cant tolerate ambiguity. This works well in the workplace
where group think outllnes the party line, and rewards with a paycheck.
But in politics and religion the information sources are subject to
challenge, and even when accepted, ambiguous in meaning. Neurotics pick
one side and stick to it.
Freud noted how, when you challenge a neurotic delusion, how innovative
he is in explaining to himself why he thinks the way he does. But when
pressed, as we see here, he gets angry, not educated. Freud said it took
a traumatic event, which no doubt many are now experiencing as the
economic crisis unfolds.
Hominids have always sold, traded, and stolen young females, who then
had to have the emotional adaptability to get along with whatever group
they find themselves in. Whereas young men were always kept in the home
tribe, expected to be stalwart warriors whose values could not be
changed. So, it is now, that young women are abandoning Christian values
and the nuclear family home model, taking up "wicca", and talking over
alternative lifestyles with their friends.
Which really freaks traditionalists out, making them even more angry and
even more zealous in blindly defending delusion.
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retirement, are there 24/7 to make sure the kids are no unsupervised
enuf to be targets of pervs.
Course, some of the young women I know regard their own parents as
pervs, and the last thing they'd do is put any kid, much less their own,
in their care. One result is 'lesbian' couples, who may or not be
sexually active with each other, but find the in house childcare useful.
And of course, when there's 3 women, the per capita cost of utilities,
mortgage, taxes, etc go down while the scheduling flexibility goes up.
I've seen four women run a kitchen together, and while the Christian
propaganda has always been that each needed her own, they found it far
easier to adapt to than they had ever imagined.
Another thing is that a litter kids innately watch out for each other.
Which is what happened back when families were large, before birth
control. But now, if you want kids to have siblings to depend on, the
mothers need to move in together. And of course, as you allude to in
another post, if a mom wants to go out on a date, the babysitters live
in the house, and she is far more free to have a good time.
Day Brown
> Is that where you'd throw the juvenile delinquents when they start
> acting up? lol
the boys to have real sexual experiences with real women, and see if the
rising levels of testosterone motivate them to behave in acceptable
ways. I know, that If some vuluptuous older woman was fucking me when I
was 14, I'd be applying myself in school if that's what she wanted.
As for the girls, because they conform so readily to any peer group, I
expect if the housemothers made them available for safe sex services,
the amount of money the house received could be used more effectively
than what each of the sluts could get doing business retail, and that
they'd soon realize it.
Archeology has revealed some very powerful entheogenic potions that
could also be used to adjust the attitude of the girls. Managed in this
way, none of the girls would get an STD, and none would get pregnant.
Lotsa guys object to this because it would remove all hope they have of
remaining in the gene pools.
Day Brown
> I have found that marijuana consumption counteracts the effects of
> these pollutants. Since there are THC receptors in the brain, I
> wonder if some chemicals in the brain might bind to THC and be flushed
> out along with the THC through the body's circulatory system. I'd be
> interested to see a comparison of toxicity data between a group of pot
> smokers and a group of non-pot-smokers. What are the lead and
> aluminum levels in their brains? Maybe aluminum will chemically bind
> to THC. What do you think?
I've not seen any data on aluminum. The oxides, which is what's on the
inside of a pot, are ubiquitous in many regions; the global bauxite
deposits vastly exceed any imaginable foundry consumption.
Bog body stomachs and bone middens show Europeans ate over 100 wild
plants and animals, and that provided a much wider variety of trace
minerals than is in the modern diet. Back when the Minimum Daily
Requirement was calculated, there were seven neurotransmitters known to
need trace minerals, which is why some are in vitamin pills. But now,
over 150 have been discovered, and the complexity of the interactions
would require super computers to deal with, and even then we dont know.
It has been shown that the organo-phosphates used by agribusiness have
molecular shapes so similar to what some of these neurotransmitters need
that these are used instead, causing neural pathology.
Other recent work also shows that, contrary to the conventional lack of
wisdom, the brain does in fact, create new neurons, and that this can be
enhanced by the correct set of dietary supplements and food sources as
well as reducing the consumption of red meat. Only the sentient is much
interested in improving reasoning powers. The neurotics are always, as
we see in the postings, entirely satisfied with what they think they
know, and how well they think.
Thus it was that my case manager increased fish in my diet and added
Omega 3 fatty acids, zinc, folates, copper, other trace minerals and
Ginko Biloba to my meds. Last year, when sent to a neurologist for a set
of baseline tests, I came out in the 3rd standard deviation above the
mean; despite being 68 at the time. I never tested that well when I was
younger. Epictetus seems correct, that while you can improve many powers
of the body and senses, you can also improve the reasoning power.
Dr. Freud alludes to the difficulty of motivating men to do that, but I
do not doubt that young women willing to provide sexual services would
get that motivation, and then profit from the much higher level of
cooperation the men would be able to work with in a business.
Day Brown
active. Parking their asses at desks all day does not ramp up the heart
rate and pump fresh blood into the brain to wash out the toxins.
And lets not forget the teachers themselves are more neurotic.
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following of groupies. No indication at all that he wanted to have sex,
but was simply admiring the beauty you refer to.
We all love the bubbly buns of a four year old in our laps, but yet have
no sexual, only sensual responses. Ramachandran has been using brain
scans to outline geometric patterns and relationships hardwired in the
brain that determine much of what we think beauty is. He challenges a
lot of the moralistic bullschitt about homosexuality.
There is also demographic data to suggest that the mother's body has a
reaction to the testosterone acquired during the pregnancy of the first
sons, that then affects the development of the later sons, so that it is
the younger sons who are much more often faggots.
The mindset you refer to is neurotic needing self righteousness and
therefore attacking whatever is the easiest target at the time. Earlier,
it might have been Nazis, Jews, Blacks, Communists, or other scapegoats.
In this case, the number of pedophiles is so small they'll never mount
an effective defense, and so are very attractive targets to justify the
alpha male instinct for attack and aggression.