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Vatican synod calls for end to Israel’s ‘occupation’ "There is no longer a chosen people."

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Raymond

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Dec 23, 2010, 5:36:45 AM12/23/10
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Vatican synod calls for end to Israel’s ‘occupation’
The Holy Scriptures cannot be used to justify the return of Jews to
Israel (Palestine)
The Palestinian refugees must eventually come back

By LISA PALMIERI-BILLIG JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDE
10/23/2010 14:43

At conference on Christians in the Middle East, US Melkite archbishop
says: "There is no longer a chosen people."

Talkbacks (204) ROME – Bishops from the Middle East who were
summoned to Rome by the pope demanded on Saturday that Israel accept
UN resolutions calling for an end to its “occupation” of Arab lands.

In a final joint communique, the bishops also told Israel it shouldn’t
use the Bible to justify “injustices” against the Palestinians.

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The bishops issued the statement at the close of their two-week
meeting, called by Pope Benedict XVI to discuss the plight of
Christians in the Middle East amid a major exodus of the faithful from
the region.

The Catholic Church has long been a minority in the largely Muslim
region but its presence is shrinking further as a result of war,
conflict, discrimination and economic problems.

“The Holy Scriptures cannot be used to justify the return of Jews to
Israel and the displacement of the Palestinians, to justify the
occupation by Israel of Palestinian lands,” Monsignor Cyril Salim
Bustros, Greek Melkite archbishop of Our Lady of the Annunciation in
Boston, Massachusetts, and president of the “Commission for the
Message,” said at Saturday’s Vatican press conference.

“We Christians cannot speak of the ‘promised land’ as an exclusive
right for a privileged Jewish people. This promise was nullified by
Christ. There is no longer a chosen people – all men and women of all
countries have become the chosen people.

“Even if the head of the Israeli state is Jewish, the future is based
on democracy.

The Palestinian refugees will eventually come back and this problem
will have to be solved,” the Lebanese-born Bustros said.

Mordechay Lewy, Israel’s ambassador to the Holy See, told The
Jerusalem Post that Bustros, in saying that Jesus nullified God’s
covenant with the Jewish people, was “returning to successionist
theology, contradicting Second Vatican Council teaching and Pope
Benedict himself – who has welcomed the return of Jews to their
ancient homeland.”

“Also,” added the ambassador, “by inviting all Palestinian refugees to
return and denying Israel’s right to define itself a Jewish state –
the only such in the world – he is regressing to hard-line positions
that deny Israel’s right to exist.”

During the meeting, several bishops blamed the Israeli- Palestinian
conflict for spurring the flight of Christians from the Middle East –
a position echoed in their final paper. While the bishops condemned
terrorism and anti-Semitism, they laid much of the blame for the
conflict squarely on Israel.

They listed the “occupation” of Palestinian lands, Israel’s West Bank
security barrier, its military checkpoints, “political prisoners,”
demolition of homes and disturbance of Palestinians’ social and
economic activities for making life increasingly difficult for
Palestinians.

They said they had “reflected” on the suffering and insecurity in
which Israelis live and on the status of Jerusalem, a city holy to
Christians, Jews and Muslims.

“We are anxious about the unilateral initiatives that threaten its
composition and risk to change its demographic balance,” the bishops
said in a joint statement.

They called on the international community to apply UN Security
Council resolutions adopted in 1967, which called on Israel to
withdraw from Arab land conquered in the Six Day War that year.

“The Palestinian people will thus have an independent and sovereign
homeland where they can live with dignity and security, while Israel
will be able to enjoy peace and security,” they said.

In their “Appeal to the International Community” the bishops expressed
“hopes that the two-state solution becomes a reality and not only a
dream.”

The document calls for “taking the necessary legal steps to put an end
to the occupation of the different Arab territories” as well as “an
end to the consequences of the deadly war in Iraq” and promotion of
“basic public freedoms” and “sovereignty" in Lebanon.

Violence, terrorism, religious extremism, racism, anti-Semitism, anti-
Christianism and Islamophobia are all condemned, while “the religions”
are called upon “to assume their responsibility to promote dialogue
between cultures and civilizations in our region and in the entire
world.”

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?ID=192474

AP contributed to this report.

Raymond

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Dec 23, 2010, 5:58:58 AM12/23/10
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Before the Nazis decided to murder European Jewry in gas chambers,
they considered the Madagascar Plan - a plan to move four million Jews
from Europe .

Whose idea was it?

" It's not too late to consider Madagascar."
---- Iran president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Like almost all Nazi ideas, someone else came up with the idea first.
As early as 1885, Paul de Lagarde suggested deporting Eastern European
Jews to Madagascar. In 1926 and 1927, Poland and Japan each
investigated the possibility of using Madagascar for solving their
over-population problems.

It wasn't until 1931 that a German publicist wrote: "the entire Jewish
nation sooner or later must be confined to an island. This would
afford the possibility of control and minimize the danger of
infection." Yet the idea of sending Jews to Madagascar was still not a
Nazi plan.

Poland was the next to seriously consider the idea; they even sent a
commission to Madagascar to investigate.

The Commission

In 1937, Poland sent a commission to Madagascar to determine the
feasibility of forcing Jews to emigrate there. Members of the
commission had very different conclusions. The leader of the
commission, Major Mieczyslaw Lepecki, believed that it would be
possible to settle 40,000 to 60,000 people in Madagascar. Two Jewish
members of the commission didn't agree with this assessment. Leon
Alter, the director of the Jewish Emigration Association (JEAS) in
Warsaw, believed only 2,000 people could be settled there. Shlomo Dyk,
an agricultural engineer from Tel Aviv, estimated even fewer.

Even though the Polish government thought Lepecki's estimate was too
high and even though the local population of Madagascar demonstrated
against an influx of immigrants, Poland continued its discussions with
France (Madagascar was a French colony) over this issue.

It wasn't until 1938, a year after the Polish commission, that the
Nazis began to suggest the Madagascar Plan.

Nazi Preparations

In 1938 and 1939, Nazi Germany tried to use the Madagascar Plan for
financial and foreign policy arrangements.

On November 12, 1938, Hermann Goering told the German Cabinet that
Hitler was going to suggest to the West the emigration of Jews to
Madagascar. Hjalmar Schacht, Reichsbank president, during discussions
in London, tried to procure and international loan to send the Jews to
Madagascar (Germany would make a profit since the Jews would only be
allowed to take their money out in German goods). In December 1939,
Joachim von Ribbentrop, the German foreign minister, even included the
emigration of Jews to Madagascar as part of a peace proposal to the
pope.

Since Madagascar was still a French colony during these discussions,
Germany had no way to enact their proposals without France's approval.
The beginning of World War II ended these discussions but after
France's defeat in 1940, Germany no longer needed to coordinate with
the West about their plan

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displaced by successive waves of Polynesian migrants from the Malayo-
Indonesian archipelago, from as early as the sixth century AD. In the
ninth century, .Madagascar was a major trading power in the western
Indian Ocean. Moreover, ancient ruins indicate an extensive Arab
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the south-east coast but were destroyed within 30 years.

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Honesty and truth

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Dec 23, 2010, 6:37:53 AM12/23/10
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 02:58:58 -0800 (PST), Raymond wrote:

> Before the Nazis decided to murder European Jewry in gas chambers,
> they considered the Madagascar Plan - a plan to move four million Jews
> from Europe .
>
> Whose idea was it?
>
> " It's not too late to consider Madagascar."
> ---- Iran president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
>
> Like almost all Nazi ideas, someone else came up with the idea first.


Why do you feel that the Nazis could not come up with an original idea?

--
“The real differences around the world today are not between Jews and
Arabs; Protestants and Catholics; Muslims, Croats, and Serbs. The real
differences are between those who embrace peace and those who would destroy
it; between those who look to the future and those who cling to the past;
between those who open their arms and those who are determined to clench
their fists.”

Bill Clinton

TRUTH

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Dec 23, 2010, 8:22:43 AM12/23/10
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"Honesty and truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
news:5e27dqreqbof$.pzvn866ofg9x.dlg@40tude.net...

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 02:58:58 -0800 (PST), Raymond wrote:
>
>> Before the Nazis decided to murder European Jewry in gas chambers,
>> they considered the Madagascar Plan - a plan to move four million Jews
>> from Europe .

Honesty and truth and you start of with a lie?You must be jewish, part of
the propaganda team? can you put up any proof for your extermination claim
besides statements by reparation hungry jewish parasites who had the Germans
at their mercy thanks to us non jews?

THE VICTIMS OF JEWISH VICTIMIZETION TO PROTECT THE FRAUDELENT REPARATION
CLAIMS. AND WHY THE FRAUD HAS NOT BEEN EXPOSED.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4138523842550891901#0h53m09s

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8424408632716421689#

FOR DICKHEADS AND DUMMIES WHO CANT FOLLOW THE WRITTEN WORD TO WELL THEY HAVE
BEEN ATTACKING AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THEIR FAMILIES WITH BOMBS,ACID,
ASSAULTING THEM, HAVING THE AMERICAN COURTS ALLOW EXTRADITION OF NON JEWISH
AMERICANS TO KANGAROO COURTS IN GERMANY.

APPARENTLY THE NON JEWISH AMERICANS ,SENATORS AND EVEN THE PRESIDENT ARE
AFRAID TO CENSURE THE JEWS.
http://abbc6.com/victims/index.htm

AND ALL OF THE CORRUPTION ABOVE IS QUITE OPEN IF YOU CAN READ,VIOLENCE BY
JEWS AGAINST CHRISTIANS NOT PURSUED AND DROPPED BY POLICE, FBI, CIA AND THE
AMERICAN COURTS AND LEGAL SYSTEM.


Doesn�t seem that hard to me? These guys are quite openly for war and war
for Israel.

Seems they are all for bleeding America dry for their loyalties?

So if I was voting for some guy who placed israel, Germany, Poland or some
other country ahead of mine I�d have a good long think about where I�d place
my vote?

A lot going on to assist Israel to continue it�s killing and thieving spree?

Would imagine these guys would be worried about the state of the union in
USA but apparently we want to make sure our good friends in Israel are not
inconveneinced?

http://www.youtube/watch?v=XbMmmKjM_s

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

http://www.ussliberty.org/"

http://www.youtube.com/user/DestroyZOG12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8objISiNY&feature=youtu.be

http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.revolution.american.second/browse_thread/thread/ad63828fb81aa299/e1e15fc4c1912570?q=JEWS+WHO+GUARDED+NAZI+CONCENTRATION+CAMPS

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589#docid=-6604775898578139565

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/11/355375.html
The Extremists behind Bush's policies and wars are abandoning the Bush
Repugnicans, in the hopes that their agenda against the Arab World can
simply be transfered to the other half of the RepugniCrat Party after the
election.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/pro-israel_neo-cons_245.html


Hmmm! Ten thousand rocket and mortar

Hmmm! Ten thousand rocket and mortar rounds you say. That must
have caused an appalling loss of life among the Israelis.
They're Arabs, they can't hit their targets...

And of course always good for a few sent by mossad into the desert
somewhere making sure it wont hit anything, has huge effect on the media.
Especially as we own it. Our reporters know how to grovel to earn their pay
and please the jewish owners.

HMMMM ALL THESE NONJEWISH SENATORS , MUST WORK HARD FOR AMERICA THE FREE?

SAME STORY FOR THE AMERICAN SENATORS ,TALK YOUR HEAD OFF. BUT NOTHING GETS
PAST THAT IS NOT IN ISRAELS INTEREST.

NOBODY CARES ABOUT NON JEWISH AMERICA ANY MORE.

SO YOU HAVE NO REASON TO DOUBT WHAT THESE SENATORS BACK.

DISHONEST GOVERNMENT THAT RIPS OF THE PUBLIC FOR THE JEWISH MINORITY? GEE
JUST LIKE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING IN THE USA????

Back this vandalism by government forces.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=746557429802139093#

Apparently most of the population as they are voting to keep these guys in
power think it is perfectly ok to have government funds supporting Israeli
patriots in schools and colleges, and supporting only properly brain washed
students who dare not raise their voice in support of any non jewish
Americans who used to have an important place in this country.

EXAMPLES:

http://judicial-inc.biz/m,_grafton_USS_Lib_library.htm
In 1972 the University of Wisconsin built a massive library, named it the
Golda Meir Library, and Christian students on campus objected. The college
administrators refused to rename it, and name stuck. The local Hillel sent
lists of protesting students to Jewish professors, who would 'review' these
students.

"Jewish Rule" <jew...@rule.biz wrote in message
news:f4the0$uv9$1...@aioe.org...

http://judicial-inc.biz/m,_grafton_USS_Lib_library.htm
In Grafton, Wisconsin, 18 miles away a small community (population 8,500)
a library was named The USS Liberty Memorial library, but this time all hell
broke loose.

SO YOU HAVE NO REASON TO DOUBT WHAT THESE SENATORS BACK.

Of course like those below this might not change your vote. You would
thinking the thinking non jewish voter might gag a little???

All the below are happy to secretly censor your news so that you will follow
their line against all your beliefs in what you would support in actions by
governments you are funding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=ynWjYHP91gA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8t3SJlR2wM&feature=fvst

Will not allow any senator to speak up for non jewish Americans or

non jewish opinion.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23932.htm

SO NOT MUCH GOING ON FOR THE USA BUT ALL THE ACTION IS FOR ISRAEL THEY BACK
SO MUCH THEY ARE RIGHT UP THEIR ARSE.

THESE SENATORS HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A GOVERNMENT COMMITING BLATANT
ATROCITIES WITH THEIR SUPPORT AND FUNDING

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/deutschland-uber-alles/

BARBARIC ACTS BY THAT GOVERNMENT.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=746557429802139093#

BARBARIC ACTS BY THAT GOVERNMENT.

http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Israel/IsraelsTortureBan.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLZgNy46aTQ

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/anthony-lawson-more-about-israeli-barbarism.html#entry6593693

http://tinyurl.com/yfrzlkt

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/anthony-lawson-more-about-israeli-barbarism.html#entry6593693

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpBM-G9bRaY&feature=r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQV9z_kt8vY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=tW1-_JmXQt0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPpuz_fMZos&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl6-ezZTlYc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sdnyAgR4bo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00NzIAQ7lvk&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhG0cCGEpxg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GCJsfVBo-8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pdvo3-A4d4

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=180695

Lieberman, flanked at a Jerusalem press conference by his senate colleagues
John McCain (R-AZ) and Lindsey Graham

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hr111-34
Sponsor: Rep. Nancy Pelosi [D-CA]
CoSponsors: Rep. Steny Hoyer [D-MD]
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R-FL]
Rep. Dan Burton [R-IN]
Rep. Howard Berman [D-CA]
Rep. Eric Cantor [R-VA]
Rep. John Larson [D-CT]
Rep. Gary Ackerman [D-NY]
Rep. Kevin McCarthy [R-CA]
Rep. John Boehner [R-OH]
Rep. Mike Pence [R-IN]
Rep. James Clyburn [D-SC]

S. Res. 10: A resolution recognizing the right of Israel to defend itself
against attacks from Gaza and...
[text not yet available]
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=sr111-10
Sponsor:Sen. Harry Reid [D-NV]
Cosponsors were:
Sen. Mark Pryor [D-AR]
Sen. Orrin Hatch [R-UT]
Sen. John Kerry [D-MA]
Sen. Blanche Lincoln [D-AR]
Sen. Bill Nelson [D-FL]
Sen. Barbara Boxer [D-CA]
Sen. Mel Martinez [R-FL]
Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL]
Sen. Carl Levin [D-MI]
Sen. Mary Landrieu [D-LA]
Sen. Saxby Chambliss [R-GA]
Sen. Evan Bayh [D-IN]
Sen. Mike Johanns [R-NE]
Sen. Barbara Mikulski [D-MD]
Sen. Jim DeMint [R-SC]
Sen. Jon Kyl [R-AZ]
Sen. Joseph Lieberman [I-CT]
Sen. Byron Dorgan [D-ND]
Sen. Michael Crapo [R-ID]
Sen. Robert Casey [D-PA]
Sen. Charles Schumer [D-NY]
Sen. Mitch McConnell [R-KY]
Sen. Robert Men�ndez [D-NJ]
Sen. Max Baucus [D-MT]
Sen. John Thune [R-SD]
Sen. Richard Lugar [R-IN]
Sen. Sherrod Brown [D-OH]
Sen. Thomas Carper [D-DE]
Sen. Christopher Bond [R-MO]
Sen. Frank Lautenberg [D-NJ]
Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]

SO YOU CAN BE SURE YOU ARE VOTING FOR THE FOLLOWING WITH ANY OF THE ABOVE.

'The Dark Secret Of
Jewish Power Is Out'
Midas Ears
By Israel Shamir
3-14-3

A new spectre haunts America. It enters the well-protected boardrooms of
newspapers and banks, shakes the deep foundations of its towers. It is the
spectre of glasnost: the dark secret of Jewish power is out. Just recently
it was 'third rail', touch-and-die, deadly dangerous to mention, certain end
to a career. Just recently, Joe Public snapped his TV from an eminence with
an Israeli passport to a member of a Jewish think-tank, and muttered to
himself: Surely it is just a coincidence that so many important and largely
unelected people in our country happen to belong to this small minority
group. Surely it is just a coincidence that they belong to different parties
but reach the same conclusions. Surely it is just a coincidence that ninety
per cent of American foreign aid goes to their cousins in prosperous Tel
Aviv. Surely it is just a coincidence that they run our newspapers,
television, cinema, universities. Anyway, we are not allowed to notice this
elephant in our sitting room.

Only rare desperados comment, as Edgar Steele did on Rense.com: "The silence
in America concerning Jews is simply deafening, isn't it? The old adage has
it that, when visiting a foreign country, to ascertain who really runs
things, one need determine only who is spoken about in whispers, if at all."
Judged by this measure, the Jews rule supreme. Indeed, when I referred to
'Jewish media lords' during a UNESCO conference in the summer of 2001, the
audience's hearts missed a beat.

The yet-unfought War on Iraq changed this. The American Ultimatum date was
set on 17 March, the Jewish feast of Purim. Purim, 1991 saw destruction of
Iraqi armies and death of 200,000 Iraqis. Too many coincidences for a purely
American war. The Americans peeped into the bottomless abyss of World War
Three and woke up from their generation-long stupor. Thus the first victim
of the Iraqi War is not truth, but the strongest taboo in the West. A
Democrat member of Congress, usually a most docile specimen, one James
Moran, dared to tell his supporters: "If it were not for the strong support
of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq we would not be doing this."

He was immediately slapped by a Jewish overseer: "It is simply stunning to
hear Representative Moran make such accusations", said National Jewish
Democratic Council Executive Director, Ira N. Forman. "First, a number of
the current leaders of the anti-war movement are Jewish, and Jewish
organizations have clearly not been at the forefront among those groups
actively and stridently supporting a war in Iraq". Forman had spoken, and
the media reported and amplified his view, and Moran duly recanted, slapped.
But he is not the only one.

The secret is out, and like the secret of King Midas and his long ears, it
is being sung now from coast to coast, despite the frantic efforts of the
organised Jewish community to clamp the lid back on the boiling cauldron.
Kathleen and Bill Christison, [i] two ex-CIA experts, exposed the link
between right-wing American Jews and the Bush Administration. Edward Said,
the most celebrated American thinker of Palestinian origin, stated the
cause: "An immensely wealthy and powerful republic has been hijacked by a
small cabal of individuals, all of them unelected and therefore unresponsive
to public pressure." [ii]

He was seconded by courageous Herman, Neumann and Blankfort. These Americans
of Jewish origin object to the un-elected, anti-democratic Jewish power as
they would object to any disproportionate minority power. Their presence, as
they were not afraid of the anti-Semitic label, was instrumental in turning
the tide and saving the intimidated majority from its browbeating.

Edward Herman, the author of Manufacturing Consent (together with Noam
Chomsky), wrote of "the powerful pro-Israel lobby in the United States,
which advances Israeli interests by pushing for U.S. aid and protection to
Israel, and, currently, by pressing for a war against Iraq, which again will
serve Israeli interests. This lobby has not only helped control media debate
and made congress into `Israeli occupied territory', it has seen to it that
numerous officials with 'dual loyalties' occupy strategic decision-making
positions in the Bush administration"

Jeffrey Blankfort, the Californian who defeated ADL in court and made Foxman
pay heaps of dollars for his espionage against activists, took an important
next step and rejected the views upheld by Noam Chomsky, Joel Beinin and
Stephen Zunes, for these older radicals play down the crucial importance of
Jewish power. Jeff Blankfort noticed the roots of the Rupture Evangelicals'
meteoric rise in the US. This obscure sect would never have left its lair in
remote Dixie, but for the Jewish media lords. Jeff noticed that when Black
Entertainment Television was taken over by Viacom, whose owner, Sumner
Redstone (n� Murray Rothstein), was recently described in the New York Times
as the world's biggest media owner, he eliminated BET's news program and
began running evangelical Christian infomercials for Israel. Blankfort's
list of 'Jews in media' [iii] enables an understanding of the secret of
Jewish charm, and it can be compared with a similar extensive list by Prof.
Kevin MacDonald of California State University.

The Iraqi War, and even more its linkage with Palestine, became the litmus
test of Jewish power. Organised Jewry pushed for war and at the same time
denied its involvement. Thus in New York City, the City Council rejected an
anti-war resolution, and only 12 of its 51 members were for it. This is not
strange for heavily Jewish New York. Indeed, a Democrat, Rep. Robert
Jackson, said it in a most straightforward way: "New York City is the home
away from home for most Jews; and many members of the Jewish community think
[the war is] in the best interests of the state of Israel." According to
Jackson, several of his council colleagues have been intimidated into
silence by the pro-Israel crowd: "People are not talking about this."

Jackson was certainly right, but a Jewish newspaper [iv] (surprisingly or
not, all newspapers in the New York area are Jewish) condemned him for
racism: "[He claimed that] not only do the Jews run New York City, but
they've cowed their opponents into silence. Jackson could as well call New
York Hymietown."

This response is remarkable for its typically Jewish logic. First, the
opponent's rational argument is perverted and distorted, then it is aligned
with opprobrium; and at the last stage, the opponent is destroyed forever.
That is one of the secrets of Jewish might: the Jews enter a dialogue
berserk-like, with great vehemence, quite foreign to the Socratic style.
While sane people are satisfied with quoting their opponent and fighting his
arguments, madmen (for berserk is a temporarily-mad individual) go for the
jugular.

David Mamet, the Jewish American playwright, provides a good example of this
vehemence as he notices a "Volvo of old, the vehicle of my brethren, the
congenitally liberal. It was festooned, as are its kind, with every sort of
correct exhortation: Save James Bay, Honour Diversity, and so on. A most
interesting bumper sticker read: Israel Out of the Settlements a slogan
which could best be translated as Hook-nosed Jews Die".

I wonder why Mamet stopped at this, for with equal adequacy the slogan can
be translated as Torture Babies, Denounce America and Burn Apple Pie. Who
cares for the form of the Jewish nose? Mel Brooks noticed long ago that
Jewish girls have the cutest noses, made by the best plastic surgeons

It is the racist Jewish policies in occupied Palestine that annoy good,
'congenitally liberal' people. But if Mamet were honest, he would not be
Mamet.

Now, Bill Keller of the NY Times read the Riot Act to the Americans. He
kindly allows that 'most of the big Jewish organizations and many donors are
backing the war' but insists that 'the idea that Israel's interests are
driving one of the most momentous shifts in America's foreign policy is
simple-minded and offensive'. Well, Keller is certainly being paid for his
convictions by a Jewish media lord, and one of the nastiest, Arthur
Sulzberger Jr, the owner of the NY Times, the Boston Globe and a host of
other publications. This undermines the possible veracity of Keller's words.
Let something similar be written in a thoroughly non-Jewish newspaper! But
alas, there are no important media outlets in the US that are not owned or
controlled by Jews

Surely a coincidence? Do not bet on it. A few days ago, in the Hebrew
University of Jerusalem, an important all-Jewish conference on anti-Semitism
took place under the auspicious aegis of the Sasson Centre. The talk given
by the French Jewish historian Simcha Epstein dealt with pre-war France but
pertained more immediately to America. This is what Epstein said:

"The pre-war anti-Semites said that the Jews of France organized a syndicate
secretly bankrolling and subverting the press. And what did the Jews say at
that time? They said: 'Of course not! No, it's a lie, of course not! We are
not engaged in conspiracies!' And what did the historians and the Jewish
historiography coming afterwards say? 'Of course not! It is anti-Semitic
drivel!' But we know now from Jewish sources that before the WWII the Jews
of France secretly financed the press.

"Since the end of 19th century, there was a secret Jewish organization, well
financed, which bought and bankrolled newspapers. Sometimes it took over
existing newspapers, which suddenly became pro-Dreifus because they received
Jewish subsidies. New papers were created especially by the Jews. Two very
important papers of the period, one was called Les Droits de l'Homme, the
Rights of Man, was financed by the Jews, and L'Humanit�, which was the
Socialist and then the Communist newspaper of France, was also financed by
Jews. I say this on the authority Jewish sources of course.

"And this brings us to a dramatic dilemma of historiography. Saying this,
saying what I said, is something horrible and unacceptable, because it means
that the Jews organized a conspiracy and secretly bought the media, or part
of the media. That was precisely what the anti-Semites said at that time,
and what they still say today. And we know now from Jewish sources that the
allegations were true, that there was a Jewish clandestine activity of
bankrolling the press." End of quote.

Some people perceive every suggestion that Jews are able to act together as
a mad conspiracy theory. Let them read and re-read this report by a Jewish
historian made at a Jewish conference. If it is proven now beyond any
reasonable doubt that the Jews of France secretly bought and subverted
French media for many years in order to distort the national discourse and
eventually push unprepared France into the horrible and unneeded World War
Two, is it impossible to consider that the Jews of the US have secretly
taken over their national media and are now pushing the US into a horrible
and unneeded World War Three?

Actually there is no need for secrecy. One of the chief Zionist ideologists,
Zeev Hefetz (ex-spokesman of PM Begin), wrote in an American daily:
"Disarming Iraq is only a start in Middle East" as "the Arab and Iranian
(sic!) cultures" are "irrational" and that nothing can be done, short of
war, to "improve the collective mental health of Arab societies".
[v]Certainly this massive 'disarmament' will be carried out by American
soldiers, though the commands will be given by the Jewish chicken-hawks
roosting in Pentagon. As for reasons for the war, they were eloquently
stated by a keynote speaker at a conference on anti-Semitism by Yehuda
Bauer, the director of the Holocaust Memorial Institute Yad va-Shem in
Jerusalem:
The Jews are not a nation, neither a religion, he said. They are a
civilisation, and they have their civilising mission. They cannot tolerate
the competing civilisation of Islam, as they could not tolerate Christendom
or Communism. That is why the war with Islam is unavoidable.

But the war is avoidable. Even today, at minutes before H-hour, the war is
avoidable. And if fire is unavoidable, let the Jewish advisers of President
Bush be fired. Let this Purim see the great Exodus of the "Wolfowitz Cabal"
from the Pentagon. Excluding the clinical possibility of his actual
zombification, G W Bush should be able to understand that he has been misled
by this powerful, un-elected minority. They cannot deliver what they
promised. Moreover, their own days at the helm of the Republic are numbered.
They over-estimated their abilities, and pushed too hard. As the frog of La
Fontaine, they can blow up. Bush still can do a U-turn, and save himself and
his country.

In a way, today's America reminds of Russia in 1986, at the beginning of
glasnost. After the Soviet citizens were allowed to learn who rules them and
how, the days of the Soviet regime were counted. Glasnost gave place to
perestroika. Now, for the first time in a generation, Americans are allowed
to see the men in power, the toxic combination of the Right-Wing Democrats
of Lieberman, the Republican neo-liberals, the Neo-Cons and plain Con-men.
The Iraqi War brought them forward and presented them in clear light. Now is
the time to undo their hold.

It can't be postponed for the divisive presidency of G W Bush is perceived
as the period of 'White' Protestant Anglo-Saxon rule, despite the prevalence
of his Jewish advisers. All available contenders for the next elections -
Lieberman, Kelly and even Kuchinich - claim their Jewish connections and
declare their undivided loyalty to Jewry and to the state of Israel. In the
present political setup of America, there will be no real alternative to
Jewish ascendancy. If Bush flops, it will be construed by the media as a
WASP flop. If he succeeds, it will be seen as success of his Jewish
advisers.

That is why American patriot forces should not wait for the next elections,
or for the end of war. They must act now, by calling the war off. They have
an enemy, but he is not in Iraq. What is called for is a new American
revolution, on a par with the New Deal and abolition of slavery, with
de-monopolisation of the discourse; that is of media and universities, for
starters. In the beginning of the Twentieth Century, Americans undid the
mighty Standard Oil. They created new anti-monopoly laws and terminated the
threat to democracy. This achievement could be repeated now.

Notes:
[i] Kathleen and Bill Christison, `A Rose By Another Name: The Bush
Administration's Dual Loyalties', Counterpunch, Dec. 13, 2002).
[ii] http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/628/op2.htm
[iii] Here is enough sampling to indicate that it is not:

First of all, Sumner Redstone ( n� Murray Rothstein) owns $8 billion dollars
worth of Viacom, which gives him the controlling interest in CBS, Viacom,
MTV worldwide (Brian Graden, president), and most recently he bought Black
Entertainment Television and proceeded immediately to cut down its
public-affairs programming. The president of CBS is Leslie Moonves, the
great nephew of David Ben-Gurion.

Michael Eisner is the major owner of Disney-Capitol Cities, which owns ABC.
David Westin is the president of ABC News. Although it has lost viewers,
Nightline host Ted Koppel is a strong supporter of Israel. Lloyd Braun is
chair of ABC Entertainment. And there is the perennial Barbara Walters.

Neil Shapiro is the president of NBC News. Jeffrey Zucker is the head of NBC
Entertainment and Jack Myers has some important post there, as well.
Although Rupert Murdoch of Fox is not Jewish, Mel Karamazin, the president
of the corporation is, as is Peter Chernin, the second in command at
Murdoch's News Corps.

Sandy Grushow is chairman of Fox Entertainment, and Gail Berman is
president. Murtdoch has received numerous awards from various Jewish
charities.
Jamie Kellner is chair and CEO of Turner Broadcasting.

Walter Issacson is the News Director of CNN which also has Wolf Blitzer,
host of Late Edition, Larry King of Larry King Live, Paula Zahn, and Andrea
Koppel, Ted's daughter.

Jordan Levin is chairman of Warner Bros. Entertainment.

Howard Stringer is chair of Sony Corp. of America.

Robert Sillerman is the founder of Clear Channel Communications,

Ivan Seidenberg is chair of Verizon Communications

Terry Semel, former co-chair of Warners is CEO of Yahoo.

Barry Diller, former owner of Universal Entertainment, is the chair of USA
Interactive.

Joel Klein is chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations, the
largest publishing conglomerate in the world.

Mort Zuckerman, the Chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish
American Organizations, owns US News and World Report and the NY Daily News.

Arthur Sulzberger, Jr. publishes the NY Times, the Boston Globe and a host
of other publications.

Marty Peretz publishes the New Republic, which is unabashedly pro-Israel, as
is
William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard.

Donald Graham, Jr. is the chair and CEO of Newsweek and the Washington Post.
Michael Ledeen, of Iran-Contra fame, edits National Review.

Ron Rosenthal is the Managing Editor of the SF Chronicle and Phil Bronstein
is the Executive Editor.

David Schneiderman owns the Village Voice and a number of other
"alternative" weeklies.
Columnist William Safire, Tom Freidman, Charles Krauthammer, Richard Cohen,
Jeff Jacoby, are among the most widely syndicated columnists.

There are a number of widely syndicated talk show hosts such as Michael
Savage (ABC) on more than 100 stations, Michael Medved, 124 stations, and
Dennis Prager who has an Israeli flag on his website. Others include Ron
Owens, Ben Wattenberg, and former ZOA official Jon Rothman, all in San
Francisco on ABC.

In Hollywood, which was founded by Jews, there is of course, Stephen
Spielberg, David Geffen, and Jeffrey Kranzberg of Dreamworks, Eisner of
Disney, Amy Pascal, chair of Columbia, and many, many more.

For the intellectuals, we have NPR, with pundit Daniel Schorr and weekend
hosts Scott Simon and Liane Hansen, Robert Segal, Susan Stanberg, Eric
Weiner, Daniel Lev, Linda Gradstein (a well-known speaker at pro-Israel
events) covering Jerusalem, Mike Schuster (whose soft-ball interview with
Ariel Sharon after Sabra and Shatila should have brought him before the
court of Hamarabi). Brook Gladstein.

And that's just for starters. From the boss to the delivery it's an
impressive list. While they certainly can't be put in the same box when it
comes to Israel, they more or less guarantee that there will be limits to
any criticism they may make of Israel".

[iv] NY Post 22.02.03
[v] November 12, 2002 The New Haven Register

http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html

N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
______________________________________ |
| | J. Henry
Schroder |
Banking | Corp. |
| Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
& Company & Company Brothers |
| | |
--------------------| -------| | |
| | | | | | Alex Brown -
Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---| & Son |
Harriman Norman | Paris Bros | |
| / | N.Y. | | |
| | | | | Governor, Bank |
J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---| | of England / N.Y.
Morgan Freres | | 1924-1938 /
Guaranty Co. Paris | | /
Morgan Stanley Co. | /

http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-answers-a-20070811232038AAlkhUR-k-New+England

There is a connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and
the London banks which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through
their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York.
The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co.,
and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference
at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent
successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who
purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the
Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914.
In 1914 a few families (blood

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

On the stolen money Nathan made,

"no less than four profits:

i) On the sale of Wellington's paper which he bought at 50 cents on the
dollar and collected at par;
ii) on the sale of gold to Wellington;
iii) on its repurchase; and
iv) on forwarding it to Portugal."

1815: The five Rothschild brothers work to supply gold to both Wellington's
army (through Nathan in England) and Napoleon's army (through Jacob in
France), and begin their policy of funding both sides in wars. The
Rothschilds love wars because they are massive generators of risk free debt.

This is because they are guaranteed by the government of a country, and
therefore the efforts of the population of that country, and it doesn't
matter if that country loses the war because the loans are given on the
guarantee that the victor will honour the debts of the vanquished.

http://www.codshit.com/rothschild.asp

John F. Hylan, then mayor of New York, said in 1911 that "the real menace of
our republic is the invisible government which, like a giant octopus,
sprawls its slimy length over our city, state and nation. At the head is a
small group of banking houses, generally referred to as 'international
bankers.'"

Were these leading public figures correct in their assessment of the
situation, or were they the victims of some exotic form of paranoia?

Let's examine history analytically and unemotionally and uncover the facts.
The truth, as it unfolds, will prove to be eye-opening and educational to
those who are seeking to more clearly understand the mind-boggling events
that have been (and are) taking place on the national and international
scenes.

History records that William of Hanau, "whose crest had been famous in
Germany since the Middle Ages," was a dealer in human flesh. For a price the
Prince, who was closely related to the various royal families of Europe,
would rent out troops to any nation. His best customer was the British
government which wanted troops for such projects as trying to keep the
American colonists in line.

He did exceptionally well with his 'rent-a-troop' business. When he died he
left the largest fortune ever accumulated in Europe to that time,
$200,000,000. Rothschild biographer Frederic Morton describes William as
"Europe's most blue-cold blooded loan shark" (The Rothschilds, Fawcett
Crest, 1961, p. 40).

Rothschild became an agent for this 'human cattle' dealer. He must have
worked diligently in his new position of responsibility because, when
William was forced to flee to Denmark, he left 600,000 pounds (then valued
at $3,000,000) with Rothschild for safekeeping.

According to the late Commander William Guy Carr, who was an Intelligence
Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy, and whohad excellent contacts in
intelligence circles around the world, the founder of the House of
Rothschild drew up plans for the creation of the Illuminati and then
entrusted Adam Weishaupt with its organization and development.

Sir Walter Scott, in the second volume of his Life of Napoleon, states that
the French Revolution was planned by the Illuminati and was financed by the
money changers of Europe. Interestingly enough, the above book (which this
author has both seen and read) is the only book written by Scott that is not
listed under his name in any of the 'authoritative' reference works. It is
now a 'non book'!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30332

Nathan first settled in Manchester, England, the center of cloth
manufacturing. In 1804 he moved to London. As his wealth and his reputation
began to grow he was able to marry Hannah Cohen. The Cohens were a wealthy
Jewish family from Amsterdam, and Hannah�s father, Salomon Cohen was a
respected merchant in London. Nathan served with him as Warden of the Great
Synagogue (the Rothschilds relationship to the Jews will be discussed later
on in this article). Hannah�s sister, Judith, married the powerful Jewish
Freemason Moses Montefiore (the Montefiore�s were of "ancient" and extremely
?aristocratic Jewish stock�, probably another Cabalistic family), who was
friends with Nathan (Nathan�s sister Henrietta married a Montefiore, so did
his second son, Anthony, and his brother, Salomon�s great grandson, Aiphonse
married a Sebag-Montefiore in 1911).

Nathan�s social life revolved around the Cohens. Nathan was a Freemason. He
was a member of London�s Lodge of Emulation. Nathan�s accumulation of wealth
was incredible. His money-making exploits were unbelievable. He was
smuggling English goods past the French blockade during the Napoleonic
conflict, and making great profits. This smuggling required an agent in
Paris, so Mayer, through his Dalberg connections, got his son James a
passport and James went to live in Paris.

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1930

This year, thirty-three years after the first World Zionist Congress
was held in Basle, Switzerland, the first Rothschild "World Bank,"
the, "Bank for International Settlements (BIS)," is established in the
same place, Basle, Switzerland.

It is established by Charles G. Dawes (Rothschild agent and Vice
President under President Calvin Coolidge from 1925-1929), Owen D.
Young (Rothschild agent, founder of RCA and Chairman of General
Electric from 1922 until 1939), and Hjalmar Schacht of Germany
(President of the Reichsbank).

The BIS is referred to by the bankers as the, "Central bank for the
central banks." To put this bank into perspective today, whereas the
International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank deal with
governments, the BIS deals only with other central banks. All its
meetings are held in secret and involve the top central bankers from
around the world. For example the former head of the Federal Reserve,
Alan Greenspan, would go to the BIS headquarters in Basel,
Switzerland, ten times a year for these private meetings.

The BIS also has the status of a sovereign power and is immune from
governmental control. A summary of this immunity is listed below:

1. Diplomatic immunity for persons and what they carry with them
(i.e., diplomatic pouches).

2. No taxation on any transactions, including salaries paid to
employees.

3. Embassy-type immunity for all buildings and/or offices operated by
the BIS worldwide including China and Mexico.

4. No oversight or knowledge of operations by any government
authority, they are not audited.

5. Freedom from immigration restrictions.

6. Freedom to encrypt any and all communications of any sort.

7. Freedom from any legal jurisdiction, they even have their own
police force.

Georgetown Professor and historian, Carroll Quigley, commented on the
creation of this central bank in his 1975 book, "Tragedy and Hope," as
follows,

"The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far reaching (plan),
nothing less than to create a world system of financial control
in private hands able to dominate the political system of each
country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was
to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of
the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in
frequent meetings and conferences.

The apex of the system was to be the Bank For International
Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and
controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves
private corporations.

Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its
ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign
exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the
Country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent
economic rewards in the business world."

A handful of United States Senators led by Henry Cabot Lodge, would
fight to keep the United States out of the Bank for International
Settlements. However, even though the United States rejected this
World Central Bank, the Federal Reserve still sent members to
participate in its meetings in Switzerland, right up until 1994 when
the United States was, "officially," dragged into it.


>>
>> Whose idea was it?
>>
>> " It's not too late to consider Madagascar."
>> ---- Iran president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Making up more lies, try and get it straight this is the internet with
google.


>>
>> Like almost all Nazi ideas, someone else came up with the idea first.
>
>
> Why do you feel that the Nazis could not come up with an original idea?
>
>
>
> --
> �The real differences around the world today are not between Jews and
> Arabs; Protestants and Catholics; Muslims, Croats, and Serbs. The real
> differences are between those who embrace peace and those who would
> destroy
> it; between those who look to the future and those who cling to the past;
> between those who open their arms and those who are determined to clench
> their fists.�
>
> Bill Clinton

That would be your idol alright, ol cigar bill, did he add anything about
opening their legs and cigars?


Dug

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Fuck the Vatican. Maybe the muslimes will exterminate
their faith, while they whine in support of them.

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>Fuck the Vatican. Maybe the muslimes will exterminate
>their faith, while they whine in support of them.

Fuck you. Maybe the Muslims will exterminate the jews whose assholes
you suck.

The Peeler

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master, The Peeler, wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:05:13 -0800, "Dug" <andx...@gggmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Fuck the Vatican. Maybe the muslimes will exterminate
>>their faith, while they whine in support of them.
>
> Fuck you. Maybe the Muslims will exterminate the jews whose assholes
> you suck.

About something different, my precious punching bag: how's your "vacation"
in the "US" going, you hilarious housebound impotent frustrated psycho?
Nothing to do for you over there, except troll on Usenet AROUND THE CLOCK?
LMAO!!!!

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