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J
Oct 27, 2012, 3:45:37 PM10/27/12
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As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
http://news.msn.com/politics/ala-to-vote-on-segregation-in-state-constitution/
MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
Election Day in this Deep South state could be the day Alabama amends
history.
Amendment 4 — the proposal to delete the constitution's archaic language
affirming segregation — is tucked amid routine issues of sewers, bonds
and city boundaries on a crowded Election Day ballot. It's a striking
call to see if Alabama will repeat what it did in 2004, when the state
narrowly voted to keep the outdated and racially controversial language,
bringing national ridicule upon the state.
The second time won't be any easier than the first because Alabama's two
largest black political groups are urging a "no" vote. They say the
proposed changes would wipe out some racially charged language, but
would retain segregation-era language saying there is no constitutional
right to a public education in Alabama. And they've been joined by the
state's main teachers' group in refusing to go along.
Never mind the supporters who say it's time to shed the last reminders
of an era of discrimination and project a more welcoming image of a
modern state eager to draw companies and jobs to Alabama.
Alabamians haven't been reluctant to amend the 111-year-old constitution
in the past. In fact, they've approved more than 800 amendments in their
history, making theirs the nation's longest state constitution. It is
now four times longer than the average constitution and, come Nov. 6,
could get 30 more amendments added to its heft.
But making changes involving segregationist language often is vexingly
difficult. The U.S. Supreme Court declared anti-miscegenation laws
unconstitutional in 1967, for instance. But it wasn't until 2000 that
Alabama voters removed the state constitution's ban on interracial
marriage. Even then, 40 percent voted to keep the ban.
--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
http://www.americandecency.org/
Syd M.
Oct 27, 2012, 4:12:20 PM10/27/12
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On Oct 27, 3:45 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
>
>
And how is that helping the American 'Negro', bigot?
> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
>
>
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Christopher A. Lee
Oct 27, 2012, 5:15:27 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:52:01 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. � Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
>If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>
>I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>
>So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
Does this really need answering?
Why not bring back the miscegenation laws as well, bigot?
The Mostest Importantest Person In My Life is a considerably darker
shade than me, and I've been in love with her since the 1990s.
People like you make me sick.
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. � Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
>
>I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>
>So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
Does this really need answering?
Why not bring back the miscegenation laws as well, bigot?
The Mostest Importantest Person In My Life is a considerably darker
shade than me, and I've been in love with her since the 1990s.
People like you make me sick.
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Christopher A. Lee
Oct 27, 2012, 5:26:09 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:21:17 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>So what ?
WHAT WOULD "SEPARATE BUT EQUAL DO TO THAT", imbecile?
>The person I care most about is lighter than I am. You have your
>rights -- and I have mine.
So what all you going to do about all the salt'n'pepper couples and
their families?
Or a President whose parents were one?
WHAT WOULD "SEPARATE BUT EQUAL DO TO THAT", imbecile?
>The person I care most about is lighter than I am. You have your
>rights -- and I have mine.
>
>>People like you make me sick.
>
>Likewise, I'm sure.
>>People like you make me sick.
>
So what all you going to do about all the salt'n'pepper couples and
their families?
Or a President whose parents were one?
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 27, 2012, 5:57:59 PM10/27/12
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In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
wrote:
> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
And why is that?
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
wrote:
> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
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Christopher A. Lee
Oct 27, 2012, 6:51:37 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:28:12 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:26:09 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
>It's called "diversity". The U.S. is a big diversified country.
>Like it should be. If you don't like the miscegenation laws of
>Alabama -- move to another state.
Why should anybody put up with them, bigot?
>suppose in the case of Barry - his name would not be on the Alabama
>ballot. No big deal.
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:26:09 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
>Like it should be. If you don't like the miscegenation laws of
>Alabama -- move to another state.
Why should anybody put up with them, bigot?
>>Or a President whose parents were one?
>
>They fornicated in Hawaii -- where there never has been any rules. I
>
>suppose in the case of Barry - his name would not be on the Alabama
>ballot. No big deal.
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Christopher A. Lee
Oct 27, 2012, 7:08:47 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:00:31 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:51:37 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
>Hell, I'm with you. So much for diversity.
So why the fuck should a black man who wants to marry a white woman,
or a white man who wants to marry a black woman, have to move out of
state?
And why should the descendents whose great-grandparents were a mixed
couple, have to move out of state?
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:51:37 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
So why the fuck should a black man who wants to marry a white woman,
or a white man who wants to marry a black woman, have to move out of
state?
And why should the descendents whose great-grandparents were a mixed
couple, have to move out of state?
sbalneav
Oct 27, 2012, 7:49:23 PM10/27/12
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In alt.atheism Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. ? Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>
> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
> segregation.
Have you asked some "black folks" on that yourself personally?
>
> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
> segregation.
--
__ _ | Nothing exists except atoms and empty space;
(_ |_) | everything else is just opinion.
__)|_) | -- Democritus
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Christopher A. Lee
Oct 27, 2012, 8:54:48 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:43:14 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:49:23 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav
><sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>
>>In alt.atheism Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. ? Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>
>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>> segregation.
>>
>>Have you asked some "black folks" on that yourself personally?
>
>No. I'd like to. But I don't know any blacks to ask.
But he's not prejudiced, some of his best friends are black.
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:49:23 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav
><sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>
>>In alt.atheism Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. ? Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>
>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>> segregation.
>>
>>Have you asked some "black folks" on that yourself personally?
>
But he's not prejudiced, some of his best friends are black.
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Oct 27, 2012, 9:50:19 PM10/27/12
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On 10/27/2012 2:57 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
>> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
>
> And why is that?
>
As the two largest black political groups in the state claim, the
> In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
>> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
>
> And why is that?
>
constitutional right to a public education would still be denied. They,
and the states main teachers' group are urging Alabamians to vote "No".
Do you think the right to a public education should be extended to
blacks? I do.
Christopher A. Lee
Oct 27, 2012, 9:52:07 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:33:48 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <88qo88h2ftic3gptd...@4ax.com>,
>Because in democracy the voters get to choose the laws they will live under.
>People who don't like those laws can leave. In the US that's balanced against
>minorities having rights that are very difficult to repeal.
Yet another idiot who doesn't understand the tyranny of the majority.
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <88qo88h2ftic3gptd...@4ax.com>,
>People who don't like those laws can leave. In the US that's balanced against
>minorities having rights that are very difficult to repeal.
Yet another idiot who doesn't understand the tyranny of the majority.
Christopher A. Lee
Oct 27, 2012, 9:52:49 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:36:44 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <kgvo885n6spp9nag5...@4ax.com>, Garnet <n...@nbne.com>
>wrote:
>
>> attitudes ? That way more people enjoy more freedom. If I want
>> to live among many races as equals -- I move to California. If I
>> don't -- I move to Alabama.
>
>Alabama cannot ignore the 14th amendment on its own authority. It would have to
>get 3/4 of the states to agree to repeal it. Anyone who does not like the
>supreme law of the US should move to another country.
Like South Africa under apartheid.
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <kgvo885n6spp9nag5...@4ax.com>, Garnet <n...@nbne.com>
>wrote:
>
>> attitudes ? That way more people enjoy more freedom. If I want
>> to live among many races as equals -- I move to California. If I
>> don't -- I move to Alabama.
>
>Alabama cannot ignore the 14th amendment on its own authority. It would have to
>get 3/4 of the states to agree to repeal it. Anyone who does not like the
>supreme law of the US should move to another country.
Like South Africa under apartheid.
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Oct 27, 2012, 8:13:55 PM10/27/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Oct 27, 2012, 10:13:38 PM10/27/12
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In article <62eoi5....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
wrote:
> On 10/27/2012 2:57 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
> >> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
> >
> > And why is that?
> >
>
>
>
> As the two largest black political groups in the state claim, the
> constitutional right to a public education would still be denied. They,
> and the states main teachers' group are urging Alabamians to vote "No".
> Do you think the right to a public education should be extended to
> blacks? I do.
You'll just spew any lie, won't you?
wrote:
> On 10/27/2012 2:57 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
> >> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
> >
> > And why is that?
> >
>
>
>
> As the two largest black political groups in the state claim, the
> constitutional right to a public education would still be denied. They,
> and the states main teachers' group are urging Alabamians to vote "No".
> Do you think the right to a public education should be extended to
> blacks? I do.
J
Oct 27, 2012, 10:20:08 PM10/27/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Oct 27, 2012, 10:23:24 PM10/27/12
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In article <62eqa1....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
great public education.
And I don't believe your crap about black political groups claiming
denial to education; I notice you didn't provide a citation.
wrote:
> On 10/27/2012 7:13 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <62eoi5....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/27/2012 2:57 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >>> In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
> >>>> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
> >>>
> >>> And why is that?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As the two largest black political groups in the state claim, the
> >> constitutional right to a public education would still be denied. They,
> >> and the states main teachers' group are urging Alabamians to vote "No".
> >> Do you think the right to a public education should be extended to
> >> blacks? I do.
> >
> > You'll just spew any lie, won't you?
> >
>
>
>
> Which part is the lie?
We can start with your lie that I don't care about blacks getting a
> On 10/27/2012 7:13 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <62eoi5....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/27/2012 2:57 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >>> In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
> >>>> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
> >>>
> >>> And why is that?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As the two largest black political groups in the state claim, the
> >> constitutional right to a public education would still be denied. They,
> >> and the states main teachers' group are urging Alabamians to vote "No".
> >> Do you think the right to a public education should be extended to
> >> blacks? I do.
> >
> > You'll just spew any lie, won't you?
> >
>
>
>
> Which part is the lie?
great public education.
And I don't believe your crap about black political groups claiming
denial to education; I notice you didn't provide a citation.
J
Oct 27, 2012, 10:58:07 PM10/27/12
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On 10/27/2012 7:23 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <62eqa1....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/27/2012 7:13 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <62eoi5....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/27/2012 2:57 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>> In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
>>>>>> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
>>>>>
>>>>> And why is that?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As the two largest black political groups in the state claim, the
>>>> constitutional right to a public education would still be denied. They,
>>>> and the states main teachers' group are urging Alabamians to vote "No".
>>>> Do you think the right to a public education should be extended to
>>>> blacks? I do.
>>>
>>> You'll just spew any lie, won't you?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Which part is the lie?
>
> We can start with your lie that I don't care about blacks getting a
> great public education.
Where did I say you didn't? I asked you if you did, that's all.
> In article <62eqa1....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/27/2012 7:13 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <62eoi5....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/27/2012 2:57 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>> In article <62e36a....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
>>>>>> justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
>>>>>
>>>>> And why is that?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As the two largest black political groups in the state claim, the
>>>> constitutional right to a public education would still be denied. They,
>>>> and the states main teachers' group are urging Alabamians to vote "No".
>>>> Do you think the right to a public education should be extended to
>>>> blacks? I do.
>>>
>>> You'll just spew any lie, won't you?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Which part is the lie?
>
> We can start with your lie that I don't care about blacks getting a
> great public education.
>
> And I don't believe your crap about black political groups claiming
> denial to education; I notice you didn't provide a citation.
>
consider MSN are reputable source?
http://news.msn.com/politics/ala-to-vote-on-segregation-in-state-constitution/
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 27, 2012, 11:02:48 PM10/27/12
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In article <62esh9....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
Ahhhh.
So bigots wrote the language.
Big surprise.
So bigots wrote the language.
Big surprise.
J
Oct 27, 2012, 11:05:53 PM10/27/12
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oppose them, do as I'm doing and encourage people to vote "No".
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 28, 2012, 1:07:54 AM10/28/12
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In article <62esvq....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
Unless more information comes out that shows erroneous information, hell
has frozen over.
I actually agree with you.
Hey, guys, I'm begging you. Please provide information that will allow
me to withdraw that statement. PLEASE!
has frozen over.
I actually agree with you.
Hey, guys, I'm begging you. Please provide information that will allow
me to withdraw that statement. PLEASE!
sbalneav
Oct 28, 2012, 1:18:01 AM10/28/12
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In alt.atheism Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>In alt.atheism Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. ? Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>
>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>> segregation.
>>
>>Have you asked some "black folks" on that yourself personally?
>
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. ? Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>
>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>> segregation.
>>
>>Have you asked some "black folks" on that yourself personally?
>
> No. I'd like to. But I don't know any blacks to ask.
Try getting out more.
--
__ _ | To limit the press is to insult a nation; to prohibit
(_ |_) | reading of certain books is to declare the inhabitants
__)|_) | to be either fools or slaves. -- Claude Adrien Helvetius
thomas p.
Oct 28, 2012, 6:01:17 AM10/28/12
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"Garnet" <n...@nbne.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:s6io881r6geig3mkm...@4ax.com...
>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
news:s6io881r6geig3mkm...@4ax.com...
>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>
> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>
> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
> segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>
> So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
Probably because it is impossible.
>
> So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
thomas p.
Oct 28, 2012, 6:08:42 AM10/28/12
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"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> skrev i meddelelsen
news:a20p88tinh56oe2n5...@4ax.com...
That is as easy to believe as it being possible to have segregation without
having discrimination.
news:a20p88tinh56oe2n5...@4ax.com...
having discrimination.
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Oct 28, 2012, 6:34:49 AM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:08:42 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It hasn't properly addressed the miscegenation laws that were
overturned in Loving v Virginia - apart from saying that if a couple
doesn't like it they should move to another state.
And it doesn't seem to understand what is wrong with the tyranny of
the majority in a country built on the freedom of the individual.
Which tells us plenty about it.
wrote:
overturned in Loving v Virginia - apart from saying that if a couple
doesn't like it they should move to another state.
And it doesn't seem to understand what is wrong with the tyranny of
the majority in a country built on the freedom of the individual.
Which tells us plenty about it.
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Don Kresch
Oct 28, 2012, 10:35:42 AM10/28/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:15:27 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
<chrisl...@comcast.net> scrawled in blood:
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:52:01 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>
>Why not bring back the miscegenation laws as well, bigot?
What about laws that mandate government redistribution of
wealth?
Oh that's right: it's only wrong when YOU object, Chris.
Hypocrite.
Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.
<chrisl...@comcast.net> scrawled in blood:
>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:52:01 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>
>>If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>
>>I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>
>>If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>
>>I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>>
>>So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>
>Does this really need answering?
>>
>>So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>
>
>Why not bring back the miscegenation laws as well, bigot?
What about laws that mandate government redistribution of
wealth?
Oh that's right: it's only wrong when YOU object, Chris.
Hypocrite.
Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.
Student Loan Shark
Oct 28, 2012, 11:03:39 AM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:38:48 AM UTC-4, Where's all the China Blue food? wrote:
> In article <sd6q88t6n91lkc604...@4ax.com>, Garnet <n...@nbne.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The idiots on the Court have gone to the other extreme. They say
>
> > the majority has no rights.
>
>
>
> If you don't like the Constitution, move to another country.
>
GGet the fuck out of my country asswipe. The courts needs to be leveled. Burn ddown the religious justice system.
> In article <sd6q88t6n91lkc604...@4ax.com>, Garnet <n...@nbne.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The idiots on the Court have gone to the other extreme. They say
>
> > the majority has no rights.
>
>
>
> If you don't like the Constitution, move to another country.
>
GGet the fuck out of my country asswipe. The courts needs to be leveled. Burn ddown the religious justice system.
Student Loan Shark
Oct 28, 2012, 11:06:04 AM10/28/12
to
On Saturday, October 27, 2012 4:12:21 PM UTC-4, Syd M. wrote:
Affirmative action asshole.
> On Oct 27, 3:45 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
>
> > justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> And how is that helping the American 'Negro', bigot?
>
> > As one who supports the American Negro in their fight for social
>
> > justice, I endorse keeping the segregation laws as is.
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
Affirmative action asshole.
Student Loan Shark
Oct 28, 2012, 11:10:39 AM10/28/12
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On Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:21:18 PM UTC-4, Garnet wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:15:27 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
>
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:15:27 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
>
> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:52:01 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>
> >>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>
> >>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>
> >>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>
> >>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
> >>
>
> >>If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>
> >>
>
> >>I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>
> >>of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>
> >>segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>
> >>
>
> >>So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>
> >
>
> >Does this really need answering?
>
> >
>
> >Why not bring back the miscegenation laws as well, bigot?
>
> >
>
> >The Mostest Importantest Person In My Life is a considerably darker
>
>
>
> >On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:52:01 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>
> >>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>
> >>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>
> >>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>
> >>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
> >>
>
> >>If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>
> >>
>
> >>I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>
> >>of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>
> >>segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>
> >>
>
> >>So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>
> >
>
> >Does this really need answering?
>
> >
>
> >Why not bring back the miscegenation laws as well, bigot?
>
> >
>
>
> >shade than me, and I've been in love with her since the 1990s.
>
>
>
>
>
> So what ?
>
>
>
> The person I care most about is lighter than I am. You have your
>
> rights -- and I have mine.
>
>
>
> >People like you make me sick.
>
>
>
> Likewise, I'm sure.
You need to kill each other. Hopefully you both are poo lice.
Don Kresch
Oct 28, 2012, 11:35:06 AM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:08:42 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
scrawled in blood:
another, she's discriminating.
Don Kresch
Oct 28, 2012, 12:03:47 PM10/28/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:36:44 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
<chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>In article <kgvo885n6spp9nag5...@4ax.com>, Garnet <n...@nbne.com>
>wrote:
>
>> attitudes ? That way more people enjoy more freedom. If I want
>> to live among many races as equals -- I move to California. If I
>> don't -- I move to Alabama.
>
>Alabama cannot ignore the 14th amendment on its own authority. It would have to
>get 3/4 of the states to agree to repeal it. Anyone who does not like the
>supreme law of the US should move to another country.
The US constitution has no authority.
<chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>In article <kgvo885n6spp9nag5...@4ax.com>, Garnet <n...@nbne.com>
>wrote:
>
>> attitudes ? That way more people enjoy more freedom. If I want
>> to live among many races as equals -- I move to California. If I
>> don't -- I move to Alabama.
>
>Alabama cannot ignore the 14th amendment on its own authority. It would have to
>get 3/4 of the states to agree to repeal it. Anyone who does not like the
>supreme law of the US should move to another country.
The US constitution has no authority.
Don Kresch
Oct 28, 2012, 12:04:33 PM10/28/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:33:48 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
<chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>In article <88qo88h2ftic3gptd...@4ax.com>,
>> So why the fuck should a black man who wants to marry a white woman,
>> or a white man who wants to marry a black woman, have to move out of
>> state?
>
>Because in democracy the voters get to choose the laws they will live under.
No, they do not.
<chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>In article <88qo88h2ftic3gptd...@4ax.com>,
>> So why the fuck should a black man who wants to marry a white woman,
>> or a white man who wants to marry a black woman, have to move out of
>> state?
>
>Because in democracy the voters get to choose the laws they will live under.
No, they do not.
SkyEyes
Oct 28, 2012, 12:31:11 PM10/28/12
to
On Oct 27, 1:52 pm, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >MONTGOMERY, Ala. Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >MONTGOMERY, Ala. Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
> >by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
> >in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
> >constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
> >years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>
> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
> >in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
> >constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
> >years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>
> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>
> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
> segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>
> So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
There *is* no such thing as "separate but equal."
>
> So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Christopher A. Lee
Oct 28, 2012, 1:08:59 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:31:11 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
wrote:
One of the things you don't see on steam/diesel transition model
railroads, is the Jim Crow car.
Black and white people travelled in different accommodation - and
guess which was superior?
Railroads crossing segregated states had to move passengers into
segregated cars even if the journey was started and ended in
non-segregated states.
And what brought civil rights to a head was Rosa Parks' refusal to sit
at the back of the bus.
I've been mentally going through my circle of friends - it includes
practically all permutations of mixed relationships and singles as
well as those who married within their own ethnicity.
And none of it matters - we're all friends because of what we have in
common, not something minor that we don't.
But then this is an ethnically mixed part of the USA which is home to
highly educated scientists and engineers from not just the USA but the
rest of the world.
If I had had any children they would have been Anglo Indian. It makes
me want to puke when people want laws to keep the "races" apart.
wrote:
railroads, is the Jim Crow car.
Black and white people travelled in different accommodation - and
guess which was superior?
Railroads crossing segregated states had to move passengers into
segregated cars even if the journey was started and ended in
non-segregated states.
And what brought civil rights to a head was Rosa Parks' refusal to sit
at the back of the bus.
I've been mentally going through my circle of friends - it includes
practically all permutations of mixed relationships and singles as
well as those who married within their own ethnicity.
And none of it matters - we're all friends because of what we have in
common, not something minor that we don't.
But then this is an ethnically mixed part of the USA which is home to
highly educated scientists and engineers from not just the USA but the
rest of the world.
If I had had any children they would have been Anglo Indian. It makes
me want to puke when people want laws to keep the "races" apart.
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Oct 28, 2012, 4:34:42 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:56:52 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
<chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>In article <nqlq88h5u4148rqpo...@4ax.com>,
Thank you for your stupidity, but at this time the position of
village idiot has been sufficiently filled by many theists here in
alt.atheism. Should the level drop significantly--you still will not
be contacted.
Would you like to try rational discourse, or would you like to
continue to wallow in your stupidity?
<chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>In article <nqlq88h5u4148rqpo...@4ax.com>,
> Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:36:44 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
>> <chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>>
>> >In article <kgvo885n6spp9nag5...@4ax.com>, Garnet
>> ><n...@nbne.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> attitudes ? That way more people enjoy more freedom. If I want
>> >> to live among many races as equals -- I move to California. If I
>> >> don't -- I move to Alabama.
>> >
>> >Alabama cannot ignore the 14th amendment on its own authority. It would have
>> >to
>> >get 3/4 of the states to agree to repeal it. Anyone who does not like the
>> >supreme law of the US should move to another country.
>>
>> The US constitution has no authority.
>
>(stupidity snipped)
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:36:44 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
>> <chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>>
>> >In article <kgvo885n6spp9nag5...@4ax.com>, Garnet
>> ><n...@nbne.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> attitudes ? That way more people enjoy more freedom. If I want
>> >> to live among many races as equals -- I move to California. If I
>> >> don't -- I move to Alabama.
>> >
>> >Alabama cannot ignore the 14th amendment on its own authority. It would have
>> >to
>> >get 3/4 of the states to agree to repeal it. Anyone who does not like the
>> >supreme law of the US should move to another country.
>>
>> The US constitution has no authority.
>
Thank you for your stupidity, but at this time the position of
village idiot has been sufficiently filled by many theists here in
alt.atheism. Should the level drop significantly--you still will not
be contacted.
Would you like to try rational discourse, or would you like to
continue to wallow in your stupidity?
Message has been deleted
Don Kresch
Oct 28, 2012, 9:28:11 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:16:55 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
<chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>In article <ok5r88tj8rhj4epmh...@4ax.com>,
>(whining snipped)
Would you like to try rational discourse, or would you like to
continue to act like a whiny little brat?
<chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>In article <ok5r88tj8rhj4epmh...@4ax.com>,
Would you like to try rational discourse, or would you like to
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Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote in
news:3kgq88l4ofd543fsc...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:15:27 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
> <chrisl...@comcast.net> scrawled in blood:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:52:01 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept
>>>>away by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and
>>>>fire hoses in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by
>>>>the state's constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their
>>>>second chance in years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists
>>>>on paper.
>>>
>>>If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>>I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>>of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>>segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>>>
>>>So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>>
>>Does this really need answering?
>>
>>Why not bring back the miscegenation laws as well, bigot?
>
> What about laws that mandate government redistribution of
> wealth?
>
If you really object to such laws why to
take advantage of them?
Move to Somalia if you are upset with
government taxes and government benefits.
news:3kgq88l4ofd543fsc...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:15:27 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
> <chrisl...@comcast.net> scrawled in blood:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:52:01 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept
>>>>away by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and
>>>>fire hoses in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by
>>>>the state's constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their
>>>>second chance in years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists
>>>>on paper.
>>>
>>>If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>>I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>>of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>>segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>>>
>>>So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>>
>>Does this really need answering?
>>
>>Why not bring back the miscegenation laws as well, bigot?
>
> What about laws that mandate government redistribution of
> wealth?
>
take advantage of them?
Move to Somalia if you are upset with
government taxes and government benefits.
Mitchell Holman
Oct 28, 2012, 9:55:05 PM10/28/12
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Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote in
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against by women who run at the sight of you?
Mitchell Holman
Oct 28, 2012, 9:56:20 PM10/28/12
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Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote in
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> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:36:44 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
> <chine...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:
>
>>In article <kgvo885n6spp9nag5...@4ax.com>, Garnet
>><n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>
>>> attitudes ? That way more people enjoy more freedom. If I
>>> want to live among many races as equals -- I move to California. If
>>> I don't -- I move to Alabama.
>>
>>Alabama cannot ignore the 14th amendment on its own authority. It
>>would have to get 3/4 of the states to agree to repeal it. Anyone who
>>does not like the supreme law of the US should move to another
>>country.
>
> The US constitution has no authority.
Move to Somalia where you won't have to
worry about government "theft" and government
"regulations".
Olrik
Oct 28, 2012, 11:59:39 PM10/28/12
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rational messages.
Typing unsupported assertions is the hallmark of religious believers and
ideologically blinded creeps. Which one are you, «Kresch»?
Olrik
Oct 29, 2012, 12:04:24 AM10/29/12
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Olrik
Oct 29, 2012, 12:07:42 AM10/29/12
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Le 2012-10-28 13:24, Garnet a �crit :
> separately but equally.
Where?
> It's only when they are de-segregated that
> the trouble starts.
*What* trouble? Sex? That was no trouble for me and most of my friends!
:-D
>> On Oct 27, 1:52 pm, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>> MONTGOMERY, Ala. Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>>> by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>>> in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>> constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>>> years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>
>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>> segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>>>
>>> So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>>
>> There *is* no such thing as "separate but equal."
>
> I disagree. From birth to age 16, boys and girls are raised
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>> MONTGOMERY, Ala. Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>>> by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>>> in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>> constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>>> years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>
>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>> segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>>>
>>> So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>>
>> There *is* no such thing as "separate but equal."
>
> separately but equally.
Where?
> It's only when they are de-segregated that
> the trouble starts.
*What* trouble? Sex? That was no trouble for me and most of my friends!
:-D
thomas p.
Oct 29, 2012, 2:02:52 AM10/29/12
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"Garnet" <n...@nbne.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:52:07 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>against
>>>minorities having rights that are very difficult to repeal.
>>
>>Yet another idiot who doesn't understand the tyranny of the majority.
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
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> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:52:07 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:33:48 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
>><chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <88qo88h2ftic3gptd...@4ax.com>,
>>> Christopher A. Lee <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So why the fuck should a black man who wants to marry a white woman,
>>>> or a white man who wants to marry a black woman, have to move out of
>>>> state?
>>>
>>>Because in democracy the voters get to choose the laws they will live
>>>under.
>>>People who don't like those laws can leave. In the US that's balanced
>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:33:48 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
>><chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <88qo88h2ftic3gptd...@4ax.com>,
>>> Christopher A. Lee <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So why the fuck should a black man who wants to marry a white woman,
>>>> or a white man who wants to marry a black woman, have to move out of
>>>> state?
>>>
>>>Because in democracy the voters get to choose the laws they will live
>>>under.
>>>against
>>>minorities having rights that are very difficult to repeal.
>>
>>Yet another idiot who doesn't understand the tyranny of the majority.
>
> The idiots on the Court have gone to the other extreme. They say
> the majority has no rights.
What rights has the Court denied to the majority?
> The idiots on the Court have gone to the other extreme. They say
> the majority has no rights.
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
thomas p.
Oct 29, 2012, 2:05:34 AM10/29/12
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"Garnet" <n...@nbne.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:08:42 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:a20p88tinh56oe2n5...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:43:14 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:49:23 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav
>>>><sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In alt.atheism Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MONTGOMERY, Ala. ? Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept
> wrote:
>
>>"Christopher A. Lee" <chrisl...@comcast.net> skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:a20p88tinh56oe2n5...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:43:14 -0400, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:49:23 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav
>>>><sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In alt.atheism Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>away
>>>>>>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire
>>>>>>>hoses
>>>>>>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>>>>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>>>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>>>>> segregation.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire
>>>>>>>hoses
>>>>>>>in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>>>>>>constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>>>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>>>>> segregation.
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you asked some "black folks" on that yourself personally?
>>>>
>>>>No. I'd like to. But I don't know any blacks to ask.
>>>
>>> But he's not prejudiced, some of his best friends are black.
>>
>>That is as easy to believe as it being possible to have segregation
>>without
>>having discrimination.
>
> My white Alabama ancestors seemed to enjoy it.
>>>>
>>>>No. I'd like to. But I don't know any blacks to ask.
>>>
>>> But he's not prejudiced, some of his best friends are black.
>>
>>That is as easy to believe as it being possible to have segregation
>>without
>>having discrimination.
>
A totally irrelevant response to my point. You are the one who suggested
that segregation was okay if there was no discrimination. Once again:
Segregation without discrimination is not possible.
thomas p.
Oct 29, 2012, 2:08:14 AM10/29/12
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"Garnet" <n...@nbne.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 03:18:27 -0700, "Where's all the China Blue food?"
> <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <508d0427$0$56784$edfa...@dtext02.news.tele.dk>,
>> "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That is as easy to believe as it being possible to have segregation
>>> without
>>> having discrimination.
>>
>>Well, duh. That's what those words mean.
>>
>>> That is as easy to believe as it being possible to have segregation
>>> without
>>> having discrimination.
>>
>>
>>The question in US law was whether separation can be equal. Based on the
>>evidence, the decision was no, instead separation is inherently unequal.
>>Since
>>the constitution is about equality, not segregation or discrimination, it
>>follows that separation is unconstitutional.
>
> That is what he dips on SCOTUS decided. They are not the Founders.
> The Founders believed that all people had rights. Not just
> minorities. They believed that if a white man wanted to live in
> a white neighborhood - it was his right to do so.
>
>
In the meantime the Constitution is the basis of law in the US.
thomas p.
Oct 29, 2012, 2:09:58 AM10/29/12
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"Mitchell Holman" <nomailverizon.net> skrev i meddelelsen
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His problem right now is his need to equivocate to hide the fact that he has
nothing relevant to say.
news:XnsA0FAD493B692D...@216.196.121.131...
nothing relevant to say.
thomas p.
Oct 29, 2012, 2:11:57 AM10/29/12
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"Garnet" <n...@nbne.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> was married to my mother's sister. He had a 400 acre farm in
> Georgia and employed (seasonally) as many as 40 black people.
>
> He never objected to segregation.
>
And the relevancy of that would be?
thomas p.
Oct 29, 2012, 2:13:21 AM10/29/12
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"Garnet" <n...@nbne.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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>>On Oct 27, 1:52 pm, Garnet <n...@nbne.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>> >MONTGOMERY, Ala. Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>> >by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>> >in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>> >constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>> >years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>
>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>> segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>>>
>>> So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>>
>>There *is* no such thing as "separate but equal."
>
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:45:37 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>> >MONTGOMERY, Ala. Segregation ended decades ago in Alabama, swept away
>>> >by the civil rights marchers who faced down police dogs and fire hoses
>>> >in the early '60s. But segregation is still mandated by the state's
>>> >constitution, and voters on Nov. 6 will get only their second chance in
>>> >years to eliminate an anachronism that still exists on paper.
>>>
>>> If it's in the constitution, why don't they practice it ?
>>>
>>> I was recently reading a book about Hodding Carter -- a big supporter
>>> of black rights in the 1950s. He said black folks didn't mind
>>> segregation. It was the discrimination they objected to.
>>>
>>> So why not practice true -- separate but equal ?
>>
>>There *is* no such thing as "separate but equal."
>
> I disagree. From birth to age 16, boys and girls are raised
> separately but equally. It's only when they are de-segregated that
> the trouble starts.
Argument by equivocation is invalid, dishonest and silly.
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Jeanne Douglas
Oct 29, 2012, 2:52:34 AM10/29/12
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In article
<chine.bleu-E2E5D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
The right to treat certain groups of people as not fully human.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
<chine.bleu-E2E5D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Where's all the China Blue food?" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > What rights has the Court denied to the majority?
>
> The right to enforce segregation.
> > What rights has the Court denied to the majority?
>
The right to treat certain groups of people as not fully human.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
thomas p.
Oct 29, 2012, 11:11:00 AM10/29/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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There is no constitutional right that allows anybody to deprive others of
their rights. Furthermore it is not possible to have legal segregation
without inequality before the law. Garnet is still avoiding dealing with
that.
>
> --
> JD
>
> "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
news:hlwdjsd2-D99B9C...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <chine.bleu-E2E5D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Where's all the China Blue food?" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > What rights has the Court denied to the majority?
>>
>> The right to enforce segregation.
>
> The right to treat certain groups of people as not fully human.
(piggy-backing)
> <chine.bleu-E2E5D...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Where's all the China Blue food?" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > What rights has the Court denied to the majority?
>>
>> The right to enforce segregation.
>
> The right to treat certain groups of people as not fully human.
There is no constitutional right that allows anybody to deprive others of
their rights. Furthermore it is not possible to have legal segregation
without inequality before the law. Garnet is still avoiding dealing with
that.
>
> --
> JD
>
> "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
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